Got beat by a Kia...

[TANGOB9S4]

I had a friendly drag race with a buddy that has a Kia Stinger with a JB4 tune, downpipe, and intake. The S4 pulled hard on him off the line, he only came around me on the big end. Got me by a car. I’m wondering if I should get a JB4 for the S4 now. Car is currently all stock. What are people seeing on 93 tunes with the JB4?

[TANGOB9S4]

In the mean time I’m going to keep going through the pages of the JB4 thread haha.

[SHCKR]

Well, the Kia has more power even stock, however it's a bit heavier. Not surprised. Tuned it'll surely do that. But at the end of the day, just remember he still has to get out of his car and look at it, only to see a Kia...

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[TANGOB9S4]

Well, the Kia has more power even stock, however it's a bit heavier. Not surprised. Tuned it'll surely do that. But at the end of the day, just remember he still has to get out of his car and look at it, only to see a Kia...

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Hahah very true. I don’t want to mess with the warranty on the car, so I figured the car should pick up quite a bit of power for the most cost effective option with the JB4. Just curious 1/4 mile wise, what the straight 93 fuel people are running.

[Kondax]

Hahah very true. I don’t want to mess with the warranty on the car, so I figured the car should pick up quite a bit of power for the most cost effective option with the JB4. Just curious 1/4 mile wise, what the straight 93 fuel people are running.

I believe with bolt-ons they're running high 11s, low 12s.

[danaeroS4]

I believe with bolt-ons they're running high 11s, low 12s.

The only thing I’m jealous about the Kia stinger is they have a flat bottom HEATED steering wheel lol.


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[SHCKR]

I mean if you wanna play that game, Hyundai's are better equipped than Audi will ever be, for half price... But you don't see me driving a Hyundai

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[0mn1]

The JB4 is nice but it's kind of tacky compared to the software available for these vehicles. I suggest you go with the IE setup That's what I have and I can tell you that a stinger cannot hang with me. I give hellcats a run for their money from a dig.

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[Rob01S4]

I’ve heard their 3.3tt trap about 116mph with tunes and bolt-ons. That’s pretty quick - on par with S4 JB4 on E40.

[Tanner.518]

The JB4 is nice but it's kind of tacky compared to the software available for these vehicles. I suggest you go with the IE setup That's what I have and I can tell you that a stinger cannot hang with me. I give hellcats a run for their money from a dig.

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There is no software from IE for these cars out yet.

[Dais0948]

Get a jb4, some E 85 and slap him around

[Marzoum]

Get a jb4, some E 85 and slap him around

That's the spirit! Get the JB4, you wont regret it

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[crhh95]

I mean if you wanna play that game, Hyundai's are better equipped than Audi will ever be, for half price... But you don't see me driving a Hyundai

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Those Genesis (not the model, their more upscale brand/line) are actually pretty nice. And they dont look half bad. Not sure on the performance though.

[Jprieur]

every time I hear people talk about a Kia, my mind keeps going back to this family guy scene. . .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kuCPoHl6PY

[jdel]

Hyundai/Kia get by by offering great value in a vehicle that still inevitably falls apart as soon as the warranty is over. Seems like a good deal, but the dealers are terrible and most of the features will end up failing either before 100k miles or immediately after. When I sold my Optima, bluetooth would hardly connect or work half the time, the backup camera was broken, and most of the speakers were failing. I treat my vehicles very well, but that thing just wasn't built for long-term use.

[Bobby Kinstle]

Uhm have you owned many audi's past 100K miles?

[Zed 2.0]

Stinger GT is no joke from a performance perspective.

It's just too bad that Kia and Genesis [aka Hyundai] decided to go upscale with their current dealer network rather than following the Lexus model. The G70 and Stinger would have been on my radar but I'm not willing to put up with the buy-here-pay-here lot quality of their dealers.

[HedonismBot]

It doesn't matter how fast you get there if you arrive in a Kia.

Seriously though. Stinger is a great car. It deserved better sales.

[crhh95]

Stinger GT is no joke from a performance perspective.

It's just too bad that Kia and Genesis [aka Hyundai] decided to go upscale with their current dealer network rather than following the Lexus model. The G70 and Stinger would have been on my radar but I'm not willing to put up with the buy-here-pay-here lot quality of their dealers.

Wait what do you mean with that last bit?

[Zed 2.0]

Wait what do you mean with that last bit?

The Kia/Hyundai dealer network (Kia in particular) tends to be low quality. Those brands had such poor quality product for so long that the dealers had to focus on buyers who could not obtain financing at other dealers, or afford cars from other brands. The dealer culture tended to become viewing customers as profit centers rather than clients. As just one example, see all of the dealers trying to mark up the non-limited production Telluride and Palisade by $10k because they're the first decent SUVs to hit their lots (https://jalopnik.com/who-is-paying-t...kia-1841130938). Not at all what you would encounter at an Audi or Lexus dealer.

[jdel]

Uhm have you owned many audi's past 100K miles?

2. B5 S4 with 170k+ on the clock and a 2006 A3 that had 130k when I got rid of it. Neither fell apart the way my Kia did. Again, great value for the vehicles, but the fit, finish and quality was so poor it made it not worth it after the initial purchase. Plus did I mention the dealers sucked?

[crhh95]

2. B5 S4 with 170k+ on the clock and a 2006 A3 that had 130k when I got rid of it. Neither fell apart the way my Kia did. Again, great value for the vehicles, but the fit, finish and quality was so poor it made it not worth it after the initial purchase. Plus did I mention the dealers sucked?

Yeah these newer audis (bmw's and merc's too) are much more reliable than the germans of the past. even when tuned

[wangshuo1989]

Hyundai/Kia get by by offering great value in a vehicle that still inevitably falls apart as soon as the warranty is over. Seems like a good deal, but the dealers are terrible and most of the features will end up failing either before 100k miles or immediately after. When I sold my Optima, bluetooth would hardly connect or work half the time, the backup camera was broken, and most of the speakers were failing. I treat my vehicles very well, but that thing just wasn't built for long-term use.

That's why I love my Audi, my S5 had multiple issues BEFORE the warranty was over and would've cost me a lot of money if they failed later. Things that were done under new car warranty:
1. sunroof guide
2. engine timing chain rattling TSB
3. One speaker
4. Alternator

I need to get rid of this car before 100K miles since most of the repairs happened around 45K ~ 50K miles and they might fail again around 100K.
But anyhow, it costs me 0 dollar on repairs for this car and it has 79K miles, I am happy.

[SHCKR]

I do wonder how long the modding community actually holds their cars. Historically, I've done about 50,000 ish miles before I start looking at other options, but with the cost of this Audi, I may keep it a bit longer....so I can justify the RS6 :)

[crhh95]

I do wonder how long the modding community actually holds their cars. Historically, I've done about 50,000 ish miles before I start looking at other options, but with the cost of this Audi, I may keep it a bit longer....so I can justify the RS6 :)

I plan on keeping it at least 7 years. If longer it will be a daily driver once I acquire the next car

[electron bom]

I think BROCKDM trapped 118 with a JB4 on 93 oct (Map 4). His ET was in the mid 11s.

[Dais0948]

I think BROCKDM trapped 118 with a JB4 on 93 oct (Map 4). His ET was in the mid 11s.

I went 11.6 at almost 119 JB4 Map 6 and a DP. its amazing what a little corn and a tuner can do to these things

[BrockDM]

I think BROCKDM trapped 118 with a JB4 on 93 oct (Map 4). His ET was in the mid 11s.

I went 11.6 at almost 119 JB4 Map 6 and a DP. its amazing what a little corn and a tuner can do to these things

Yes sir! Dias and I are two of the quickest from what I've seen on stock turbo, JB4 and pump gas. I need to find a better surface and get a good launch down but I'm impressed none the less!

[Dais0948]

Yes sir! Dias and I are two of the quickest from what I've seen on stock turbo, JB4 and pump gas. I need to find a better surface and get a good launch down but I'm impressed none the less!

Takes name and kick ass!

[BrockDM]

I think BROCKDM trapped 118 with a JB4 on 93 oct (Map 4). His ET was in the mid 11s.

I went 11.6 at almost 119 JB4 Map 6 and a DP. its amazing what a little corn and a tuner can do to these things

Takes name and kick ass!

I splashed in a little e85 and turned up the boost over the weekend, just need to get out and get an updated time. That 11.6 flat is impressive no doubt!

[Dais0948]

I splashed in a little e85 and turned up the boost over the weekend, just need to get out and get an updated time. That 11.6 flat is impressive no doubt!

Think you got me this time brother ! I'm doing a few things tomorrow myself including Sunoco 100 octane and E85 blend with my IC. if I can tap 120 my mission is complete... well for now that is lol

[electron bom]

Think you got me this time brother ! I'm doing a few things tomorrow myself including Sunoco 100 octane and E85 blend with my IC. if I can tap 120 my mission is complete... well for now that is lol

Correct me if I'm wrong, but...
Dais has the fastest trap on stock turbo, Brock has fastest trap on 93.

[Dais0948]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but...
Dais has the fastest trap on stock turbo, Brock has fastest trap on 93.

Ya I think thats right.

[Dais0948]

I'm fortunate enough to have E 85 and Sunoco 100 around me so I can mess around with things. From talking to George my IAT are way to high see I think I will improve some more with the IC.

[jonesey]

I have a jb4, intake and on Map5 with e85 splash...I smoked (what I assume was stock) Kia Stinger. those things are a joke, and look awful. I also dusted a Dodge Viper Scat with the JB4. Honestly aside from the major exotics and some of the big American muscle I am confident I can take most of what is out there. Oh yeah, Subaru STI, same, dusted. I am getting consistent 3.5 3.6s on Dragy 0-60. Car is an animal, so yes you should get a jB4 because they are worth the money and your car will be even MORE of a sleeper than it already is.

[BrockDM]

I also dusted a Dodge Viper Scat with the JB4.

Do you mean a Dodger Charger or Challenger Scat? I don't think a JB4 is dusting a viper

[jonesey]

Do you mean a Dodger Charger or Challenger Scat? I don't think a JB4 is dusting a viper

Yes, wishful thinking on my part, Charger..Dusted it, twisty road too. Car is a sled, I have driven one, drove the whole range before i came to my senses and bought an Audi. Not lying about it. JB4 didn't beat it, my S4 did.

[SHCKR]

Yes, wishful thinking on my part, Charger..Dusted it, twisty road too. Car is a sled, I have driven one, drove the whole range before i came to my senses and bought an Audi. Not lying about it. JB4 didn't beat it, my S4 did.

Yup, drove one too, fast in a straight line, once it gets moving, but handles like absolute garbage. So is the interior, it's like they try to make it fancy, but fail miserably. And don't even get me started on their MMI or whatever they call it. Yuck.

[jonesey]

Yup, drove one too, fast in a straight line, once it gets moving, but handles like absolute garbage. So is the interior, it's like they try to make it fancy, but fail miserably. And don't even get me started on their MMI or whatever they call it. Yuck.

Agreed...I mean maybe in a straight line the Scat takes me at the end of a half mile or so, but who cares, thats not real driving. Scats aren't even breaking the 4 second mark 0-60, not sure why people think they are so great. The Hellcat on the other hand is a burner, if you can control the thing. Audi takes that thing off the line too but the HC would reel it in pretty quick.

[Dais0948]

Do you mean a Dodger Charger or Challenger Scat? I don't think a JB4 is dusting a viper

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