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    Question Ownership Costs of an Audi?

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    Hello all, I now find myself in the market of purchasing a car. I admire JDMs, but German has always spoken out to me, and Audi out of all. I know I will probably get biased opinions posting on an Audi forum, but I want to hear genuine ownership experiences. No bullshit, because this is a very big decision in my life right now. The Audi I have my eyes on are 2014 S5 coupes, for around 20k. If worst comes to worst, then the A5. But generally speaking, I'd like to put my money into the 5-series coupe.

    That being said, I don't necessarily need only S5/A5 owners commenting, just people who has owned Audis in general.

    To get to the point, how expensive am I looking at when maintaining Audis? I do not call myself a car person at all, so work needed on the car will probably go to an experienced mechanic. I am planning to daily drive the car. And I am not some stupid red-liner. Many say German is more expensive to maintain than JDM, and I feel like that is obvious, but is that fact alone worth passing on Audi vehicles?

    I plan to buy the car to keep it, probably for 3 or more years before I move on. I'm 19 with a solid job with good hours (nothing crazy, slightly above minimum wage in CA), residing with my parents. This Audi (and insurance) will be paid solely by myself. Should I take the plunge or am I setting myself up for a financial pitfall? I really love Audis, but I want to be level-headed and informed here.

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    Take the same amount of money and buy yourself a brand new Toyota if cost of ownership is of concern

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    Can you afford Audi maintenance?

    Oil changes at $100 or so at 5000 miles (not OEM suggested 10k), brakes at $1,000 front/rear, tyres at $1,000. The big services will run about $500 or so as well. And that's independent mechanic pricing, not dealership, so I hope you have a good indy mech or shop, or are willing to wrench. And don't forget gas. Even though gas is cheap now, unless you do exclusively highway driving, you're looking at 20mpg mixed-use, and premium gas only for the 2.0T.

    And those are costs for a A4/5. The S-models will probably be more expensive.

    Honestly, you're 19.

    Get a reliable, inexpensive used car (Corolla, Civic, etc.) for now so you can get to work and back. Take the money you save and put it towards college or investing in the market or savings. Oh, and when you factor in rent and utilities when you move out, the burden will be even more.

    Build your nest egg first, then get fancy. Doing it the other way ensures you'll only be chasing your next paycheck so you stay afloat and stress yourself out.

    Better to have a cheaper, enjoyable lifestyle than a stressful baller lifestyle.

    Of course, that's my opinion.

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    Well said Saigon. At 19, I did the same thing the OP did, and "paid" the price after I moved out of the house. It forced me to trade the car I was now upside down in, for something more cost effective. I realized I simply needed something affordable (for my budget), to get from point A to B. It took years to recover from getting in too deep! Save that money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaigonDesign View Post
    Can you afford Audi maintenance?

    Oil changes at $100 or so at 5000 miles (not OEM suggested 10k), brakes at $1,000 front/rear, tyres at $1,000. The big services will run about $500 or so as well. And that's independent mechanic pricing, not dealership, so I hope you have a good indy mech or shop, or are willing to wrench. And don't forget gas. Even though gas is cheap now, unless you do exclusively highway driving, you're looking at 20mpg mixed-use, and premium gas only for the 2.0T.

    And those are costs for a A4/5. The S-models will probably be more expensive.

    Honestly, you're 19.

    Get a reliable, inexpensive used car (Corolla, Civic, etc.) for now so you can get to work and back. Take the money you save and put it towards college or investing in the market or savings. Oh, and when you factor in rent and utilities when you move out, the burden will be even more.

    Build your nest egg first, then get fancy. Doing it the other way ensures you'll only be chasing your next paycheck so you stay afloat and stress yourself out.

    Better to have a cheaper, enjoyable lifestyle than a stressful baller lifestyle.

    Of course, that's my opinion.
    And this is pretty conservative. The dealership charges $200 for oil changes. I spent about $1k for just front brakes and $2100 for tires.

    I agree with the age point. It's definitely wise to be able to afford an expensive car... My transmission went out on my 2015 S4 with only 41k miles (outside of warranty). It happens.

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    I would ONLY buy an Audi in your situation if you can find and cover a decent used Audi and that you are ready to learn to make repairs/maintain it yourself. I would have a few thousand ready for tools and parts though. It's no terribly difficult to maintain, just do some research and be prepared to find yourself in situations that are seemingly impossible to get through. Heed the warnings. Best of luck.

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    Buy a Honda

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    No. You cannot afford an out of warranty Audi with an income slightly above the minimum wage, sorry.

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    Save up bud. I drove a Prius for 5 years and decided to get back into an Audi. You’re looking at $150-$250 oil changes, 1.2-1.5k for major maintenance and high insurance premium cost due to age/ car.
    Once you move out, add your payment on top of daily needs such as : rent/mortgage, utilities, clothes, entertainment (adds up quick!) and most importantly, food.
    Purchase your attainable daily dream car when you can afford to buy it 2-3x in your bank. Invest in yourself first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josmos View Post
    Hello all, I now find myself in the market of purchasing a car. I admire JDMs, but German has always spoken out to me, and Audi out of all. I know I will probably get biased opinions posting on an Audi forum, but I want to hear genuine ownership experiences. No bullshit, because this is a very big decision in my life right now. The Audi I have my eyes on are 2014 S5 coupes, for around 20k. If worst comes to worst, then the A5. But generally speaking, I'd like to put my money into the 5-series coupe.

    That being said, I don't necessarily need only S5/A5 owners commenting, just people who has owned Audis in general.

    To get to the point, how expensive am I looking at when maintaining Audis? I do not call myself a car person at all, so work needed on the car will probably go to an experienced mechanic. I am planning to daily drive the car. And I am not some stupid red-liner. Many say German is more expensive to maintain than JDM, and I feel like that is obvious, but is that fact alone worth passing on Audi vehicles?

    I plan to buy the car to keep it, probably for 3 or more years before I move on. I'm 19 with a solid job with good hours (nothing crazy, slightly above minimum wage in CA), residing with my parents. This Audi (and insurance) will be paid solely by myself. Should I take the plunge or am I setting myself up for a financial pitfall? I really love Audis, but I want to be level-headed and informed here.
    I think that you should consider how Audi (at least in the USA) treats owners with respect to what I'll call "longevity". Go find and read the very long thread about ZF transmissions and the MYTH of "lifetime fluid". The TL;DR version is that, despite the actual *manufacturers* quoted recommendation for its own transmissions NOT being anything like "sealed and good forever", Audi refuses to service the transmissions in its vehicles (outside of exceedingly rare circumstances that would only arise due to failures, i.e., not maintenance). You'll find numerous people defending Audi's position on that and TBH it makes total sense if the primary goal is profit. I can't argue with it on that premise. It's insane to believe that a transmission should not have routine maintenance but, when profit of the car manufacturer is the primary goal, it makes perfect sense for their bottom line. One of the best arguments that I've read for that policy is that "Audi expects that Audi owners will be leasing or buying new cars every 3-5 years."

    Let's talk about parts. I have a 2015 A4 Allroad. While browsing parts, I see that numerous parts for the vehicle have already been discontinued... after five "entire" years. People say, "eBay is your friend" for any German car owner in the USA as if that is a reasonable substitute for the car manufacturer providing parts. Sure, that is better than having the parts completely vanish as though you're talking about some weird vehicle like an Opel or whatever. Look around any major US city and these cars are pretty darn popular! And that seems to include a VAST market for older than 5 years examples.

    But see, the vast market for older than 5 years examples, well that is clearly not in the financial best interest of Audi. You can't blame any corporation for its own profit and existence to be its primary goal. But people just need to come to terms with what that really means -- especially people that want to keep the cars that they love for many years. As long as you are in that sweet spot, buy/lease a new vehicle every 3-5 years... no worries! You're good. Don't even think about it twice... if you can afford that. If not, you really need to consider the additional concerns of long-term ownership. Just my two cents and personal opinion, of course.
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    Very strange to buy Audi at 19 y.o.
    most people in this age have a maximum of Toyota and invest in travel and entertainment, if not education.
    However, there are always exceptions to the rule.
    Why not buy an Audi if you have money for it?
    Go for it! You can sell it anytime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Domasto View Post
    Very strange to buy Audi at 19 y.o.
    most people in this age have a maximum of Toyota and invest in travel and entertainment, if not education.
    However, there are always exceptions to the rule.
    Why not buy an Audi if you have money for it?
    Go for it! You can sell it anytime.
    You cant sell it if you owe more than its worth. If you can pay cash and like living with your parents then go for it? My kids do not get the option to live with me past 18, so they drive hondas.

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    Bought my 2014 S4 with 72k miles for $22k in November 2018. Have only done oil changes and one wheel bearing during my ownership. My oil change is $98 every 5k miles.

    If it makes you happy, do it. Puts a smile on my face every morning driving to work (45miles round trip). Just hit 100k miles and still runs great. Just do your research for the right car.




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    Don’t be that kid with the nice car living with your parents! Education, investments and property. Get a beater.


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    Hey! I also really like AUDI and for me this is the best brand of car, but for a start I would really rather buy a Toyota. It is cheaper and more reliable to maintain. Let's hope that this car passes the test and you can buy it yourself, and your friend will help you with this. If you look at the prices of luxury car brands, they differ significantly, but in terms of characteristics, they may not differ much. For example, on https://www.cardeeply.com/ you can compare the characteristics of any car brands, which would make it easier to make a choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Classyfast View Post
    Don’t be that kid with the nice car living with your parents! Education, investments and property. Get a beater.
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    FYI: At the dealership, brakes for my A6 was $1,250 plus taxes. No extended warranties cover normal wear of anything. Good luck.

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    First and foremost, Audis are awesome cars. My advice is to go with your gut feeling. You only regret the things you don’t do.

    In all honesty, our family has owned both Japanese and German cars. When it comes down to it, is about the build quality and the driving experience. My first car in high school and college was an Acura Integra. When I graduated college i got a Audi A4 and did all the work myself (including a timing belt change) because I didn’t feel it was worth paying someone else to do what I could do. I kept my A4 for 10 years until i started a family and got an S6 and a Q7. We’ve been an Audi family ever since.

    From a maintenance perspective, yes it is expensive. The most expensive maintenance items you’ll face are the tires and breaks. If something does break. It is pricey to fix but it’s musty labor that breaks the bank.

    This is purely your choice. However some earlier posts have made great points from a financial perspective.

    Search YouTube as it has a lot of content on wether to buy a German car or not. It all comes down to the quality. Keep in mind you can also get quality Japanese cars like Infinity or Lexus and they will run similar costs as Audis from a maintenance perspective.


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    Ownership Costs of an Audi?

    I feel like I’m just piling on here but you can buy a lot of car for 20k, and get something that’s much less of a headache than an Audi or even a VW. I went from Honda to VW and am shopping for an Audi now. It really is a different ownership experience in terms of maintenance and general finickiness. I definitely understand the Audi draw, but you can catch a killer deal on non GT Kia Stingers or Genesis G70s if you want something other than the typical Honda/Toyota. They have great warranties, are super reliable, sporty and not overly common. Plus you have the option of a turbo engine with RWD. Watch thestraightpipes reviews on YouTube. They might just convince you


    EDIT: Kia & Hyundai hired a lot of ex BMW & Audi engineers and designers to work on these cars so you’ll be getting a pretty legit German driving experience if you can get over the badge

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    Don't do it unless:
    parents pay for repair cost and no questions asked or you do most of the work yourself
    be willing to walk away from a when repair costs exceed what you are willing to spend

    The Audi dealerships cater to the no questions ever asked crowd, they expect their customers to bring in their cars to a get light bulb replaced.

    Ask an insurance agent for a rate quote for an Audi A4 or a Camry.

    Even independent Audi shops are expensive. For every hour they work on your car you will need to work 10 hours, plus parts.

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    Put $5000 in your yearly budget and you should be covered. (Roughly!)
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    I am sure the OP is long gone at this point, but this thread is a good one. I have had domestic cars all of my life, and am now in my mid-40s. My current cars (with 4 drivers in my house) are a 2014 Ford Fiesta, a 2017 Honda Civic, a 2011 Ford Ranger, and my 2014 Q5 TDI. I have wrenched off an on my whole life, but I reached a point a couple of years ago where I had enough free time and enough money for tools to start doing almost all of the maintenance on our vehicles.

    I have had the Q5 for a year (18,000 miles of driving), and the above advice is spot on. I have done all of the maintenance myself expect for the two emissions TDI related warranty items that were covered by the dealer. I love this car, but every part costs just a little more, and I need more lead time to gets parts and fluids here. The Civic is the exact opposite. It just goes. It doesn’t need me to talk nicely to it and it never needs anything other than routine service. It has never even thrown a code in 4 years. However, the Civic is boring. For me the upkeep on the Audi is worth every penny that it costs to keep it in top shape because it is that much fun to drive.


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    My first car was a 2001 Corolla at 16, then a 2001 accord at like 17 then a Chevy Malibu at like 18 then 19-20ish I bought a vw gti (Mk6) and for about a year and a half I’ve owned my b8.5 s4 (gonna be 22 the 24th). I also live at home going to school. You’ll want to have a couple grand at least saved for maintenance or repairs. I over paid on my gti for almost 2 years (paid $400 a month when the payment was like $250). Ended up selling the gti for $12,000 at 70k miles. Put 7 grand down on my b8.5 s4. I owe like 9k on my S4 and it’s worth probably like 24k. I also have about 7 grand just on me. So I have a ton of equity in my car if I need to sell it, and what I have in cash atm. I been delivering pizzas since I was 16-17 and saved and saved and traded up in cars to get to where I am. However I don’t deliver pizza anymore. I do beer merchandising.

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    Forgot to add I sold the gti for 12 and only owed 5,500 because I didn’t drive it a ton, got a good deal on it, and overpaid so I made money on it kinda

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    I bought mine at 20. I’m 22 now. 2014 S4 bought it with 55,000 miles for 22k. I saved my money since I was 17 and delivered pizzas for 3-4 years and made decent money for my age. Had a gti previously sold it for 12k and owed 5,500. I overpaid every month and sold it in 2 years. Put 7 grand down on the S4 and now owe only 7k and I have 71k miles now. This is how I afford my stuff. Just be smart with your money.


    Now mine had the water pump burst at 62k so I did that and the thermostat and pcv. I’ve also had 2 injector failures. Lots and lots of maintenance. I do the work myself however. I did pay a small independent shop like $600 labor for the pump, thermostat, and pcv though. However, I know how to do everything on the car at this point.

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