audi b8.5 a4 stage 2

[Nick27]

im from Montreal canada and I’ve got 73k on my 2014 Audi A4 and I got stage 1 put on from integrated engineering. They are an amazing company and helped me with a tuning problem all the way. My question to you experts is I felt abit of the difference in power between stock and stage 1. I’m thinking of going stage 2 but was wondering if durability should be a concern for the turbo and engine? As they claim that this is the max the stock turbo can push out.Thanks for all your knowledge and help on this guys!

[alnoor15]

im from Montreal canada and I’ve got 73k on my 2014 Audi A4 and I got stage 1 put on from integrated engineering. They are an amazing company and helped me with a tuning problem all the way. My question to you experts is I felt abit of the difference in power between stock and stage 1. I’m thinking of going stage 2 but was wondering if durability should be a concern for the turbo and engine? As they claim that this is the max the stock turbo can push out.Thanks for all your knowledge and help on this guys!

Ive got a b8.5 apr stage 2, I have flex fuel though so the e85 definitely pushes it up a notch. If you're flex fuel also I would probably just stay stage 1 and run a mix, so you can avoid emissions testing if you have that for stage 2

[Grouch]

I honestly felt the most difference more from going stage 1 to 2. Stage 1 didn't feel like that much of an upgrade for me. Even though you get the most jump in power from going stock to stage 1.

[Nick27]

I honestly felt the most difference more from going stage 1 to 2. Stage 1 didn't feel like that much of an upgrade for me. Even though you get the most jump in power from going stock to stage 1.

what company are you currently tuned with hcuorG ? I don't have access to e85 anywhere in Canada and IE doesn't have e85 support yet on there tunes. I felt bit of a difference going to stage 1 but not as much as I hoped. I found a decent deal on a high flow cat as everything in Canada is always more expensive lol. I guess the main reason going stage 2 is to reduce that turbo lag down at 1500 rpm? it is a daily driver so reliability is going to be a concern.

[Iceman502]

I was stage 2 with IE for about 20k and never had any issues (bumped up to K04 after, so still using their hardware and tune). The biggest thing is to check your area's inspection and emission requirements to see what you can pass with. Here in NC, I believe we only need one of the two O2 sensors to show readiness, so even though the post-cat sensor might be reading higher than normal, the IE guru's coded out the CEL and the inspection team can still pass me. Two years later, I've passed both times with no spacer and no comment from the small town shop I go to.

[ShawFM]

APR stage 2 with Milltek cat & exhaust. Running E85 when it is not cold is great, WOT cold outside not so great (you can search that if it applies) . 93 Oct is very good too, but after E85 seems weak. I can't even remember Stage 1.

[spike6339]

I’ve got a 8.5 as well, and decided I was going to skip the stage 1 and just go straight to 2. I have all the requirements to do so, and I notice a substantial difference. I’m running the IE stage 2 93 octane tune. I’ll also agree, IE is a great company to work with. I’ve not had to contact them with any issues, but they are very responsive with any product questions you may have. The only problem I’m experiencing, is the joy I get from the added power.... and now I wish I had the monies for the K04 upgrade :-)


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[spike6339]

I do wish they would get that E85 tune put together. Being as I’m in Minnesota, and have E85 errwhere...and want the gain from that as well.


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[bb-tt]

what company are you currently tuned with hcuorG ? I don't have access to e85 anywhere in Canada and IE doesn't have e85 support yet on there tunes. I felt bit of a difference going to stage 1 but not as much as I hoped. I found a decent deal on a high flow cat as everything in Canada is always more expensive lol. I guess the main reason going stage 2 is to reduce that turbo lag down at 1500 rpm? it is a daily driver so reliability is going to be a concern.

I ran IE stage 2 with test pipe no cel no issues. K04 now with IE tune and HFC pass all readiness and inspection in Dallas. Actually looking for test pipe that fits the k04 to see if i can still pass.

edit:
oh Perry is taking his 8.5 later this year to IE so they can work on the E85 tune the reason the tune is held up is the car they were using to create was taken back, think the guy moved.

[spike6339]

I ran IE stage 2 with test pipe no cel no issues. K04 now with IE tune and HFC pass all readiness and inspection in Dallas. Actually looking for test pipe that fits the k04 to see if i can still pass.

edit:
oh Perry is taking his 8.5 later this year to IE so they can work on the E85 tune the reason the tune is held up is the car they were using to create was taking back, think the guy moved.

Nice, good to hear... even if I still have to wait some time.


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[Nick27]

I would be delighted if Montréal ever sees e85 with our terrible winter temperatures :( it blows my mind how e85 adds so much power and they claim stage 2 is the max the stock turbo can run :s lol. So from stage 1 to stage 2 there is going to be substantial difference? Also for e85 can I make my own mixture at home? How is it so much more powerful than 91 or 93 octane fuel?

[bb-tt]

I would be delighted if Montréal ever sees e85 with our terrible winter temperatures :( it blows my mind how e85 adds so much power and they claim stage 2 is the max the stock turbo can run :s lol. So from stage 1 to stage 2 there is going to be substantial difference? Also for e85 can I make my own mixture at home? How is it so much more powerful than 91 or 93 octane fuel?

Cant speak for ie stage 1 to stage 2 as i went straight to stage two and then k04. I had apr with program switching in the tt (1.8 not 2.0) there was a very noticeable difference between stage 1 and 2

[Chatchie]

With fuel prices now E85 is about $0.60 more in the Northeast. Doesn't usually matter to the enthusiast but oil prices are dropping.

[Nick27]

how does e85 cope with cold weather below -10 degrees Celsius?

[alnoor15]

how does e85 cope with cold weather below -10 degrees Celsius?

highly suggest you dont try that out, Im staying away from using any e85 at all if its below 50 degrees farenheit.

[Nick27]

https://www.eurosporttuning.com/euro...fsi-40929.html

that is the downpipe I was looking at. seems to be the cheapest here in Canada? anyone have an input on quality or the sound of mototec products?

[snaky69]

what company are you currently tuned with hcuorG ? I don't have access to e85 anywhere in Canada and IE doesn't have e85 support yet on there tunes. I felt bit of a difference going to stage 1 but not as much as I hoped. I found a decent deal on a high flow cat as everything in Canada is always more expensive lol. I guess the main reason going stage 2 is to reduce that turbo lag down at 1500 rpm? it is a daily driver so reliability is going to be a concern.

The biggest jump for me was going from stage 1 to stage 2. Stage 1 delivers very little power in the day to day "usable" power band, all gains are up top. HP and torque gains are roughly 20hp and 40 ft-lbs or less under 3k RPM, which is where you'll spend 95% of your time daily driving it.

At the same RPMs stage 2 delivers about 40hp and 70 ft-lbs more than stock.

[Nick27]

The biggest jump for me was going from stage 1 to stage 2. Stage 1 delivers very little power in the day to day "usable" power band, all gains are up top. HP and torque gains are roughly 20hp and 40 ft-lbs or less under 3k RPM, which is where you'll spend 95% of your time daily driving it.

At the same RPMs stage 2 delivers about 40hp and 70 ft-lbs more than stock.

are you currently with IE? did you need the o2 spacer once installing the hfc?

[snaky69]

are you currently with IE? did you need the o2 spacer once installing the hfc?

I am.

No.

[Nick27]

I am.

No.

do u experience any heat soaking in higher temperatures when u drive it pretty hard? is the front intercooler THAT necessary to have or hfs will suffice?

[B6_Dolphin]

do u experience any heat soaking in higher temperatures when u drive it pretty hard? is the front intercooler THAT necessary?

A Stage 2 tune will heat soak the stock IC after one run. Although I have APR (not IE) Stg 2 and the DP, I recently changed-out the stock IC and IC OEM piping to the Luft-Technik IC & Hard Piping:

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-ecs-part...02894ecs01kt1/

Despite temps not getting over 60 deg F yet in the Pacific Northwest, I immediately noticed more low-end torque, for example. Considering the hot and humid conditions you'll likely see in the summer, this IC will help keep the charge temps in-check, and for the price, under $500 USD on-sale, to me it was an easy decision to purchase.

[snaky69]

do u experience any heat soaking in higher temperatures when u drive it pretty hard? is the front intercooler THAT necessary to have or hfs will suffice?

Haven't felt the need for it. I'll sacrifice a bit of power to heat soak to keep my spool times low.

[Nick27]

Haven't felt the need for it. I'll sacrifice a bit of power to heat soak to keep my spool times low.

have you dynod your car to see what kind of numbers you'll putting out? I doubt you can loose enough hp to make a difference without an upgraded IC

[bb-tt]

Haven't felt the need for it. I'll sacrifice a bit of power to heat soak to keep my spool times low.

I ran the 3.0 tdi intercooler and it did not increase spool time at all and did not heat soak.

[old guy]

I ran the 3.0 tdi intercooler and it did not increase spool time at all and did not heat soak.

I picked up a used 3.0 TDI intercooler for $100. It made a measurable difference in the IAT's. Pretty much a direct fit. Clicky click®

[Nick27]

I do weekend spirited driving, it is a daily driver after all. If I can do a full pulls and highway races on stage 2 without a upgraded IC is it possible without noticeable heat soak and degrade in power?

[Mars2]

how does e85 cope with cold weather below -10 degrees Celsius?

I spend my winter in the french alps. I had many day's with -15°C in the morning. I have E85 tune start on first crank every day.
Here in France E85 winter blend is in fact E65 to help the car to start.
I don't know if in Canada winter E85 Blend is also E65?

we have 3 blend so called E85:

- winter E65
- Spring and fall E75
- Summer E85

[Nick27]

Canada must be the only country that doesn’t have e85 gas.....such a downer

[Nick27]

Out of all the tunes for the b8.5 a4 IE is the only one with the lowest hp with 256 and the others ranging from 270-280...does the tune actually produce more?

[snaky69]

Out of all the tunes for the b8.5 a4 IE is the only one with the lowest hp with 256 and the others ranging from 270-280...does the tune actually produce more?

You’re not looking at the right numbers. Stage 2 91 octane on IE is 284hp and 346ft-lb.

[Nick27]

You’re not looking at the right numbers. Stage 2 91 octane on IE is 284hp and 346ft-lb.

Sorry I was comparing the stage 1 tunes of the companies, did they over advertise them?