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    EPL **Stage 1** owners, post your 0-60 times

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    Only Stage 1 and associated mods

    Dragy or similar accurate measurements

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    Didn’t this question already get answered?....

    Quote Originally Posted by Magowin View Post
    I'm currently EPL ECU/TCU Stage 1 Stock Pulleys and my lowest 0-60 so far is 4.33 seconds with launch control. My Stock 0-60 times were 5.1 - 5.3 with launch control and with a Chipwerke Pro best 0-60 with launch control was 4.8.



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    ^^ Dont you need more stats or people rather than relying on 1 car in the entire forum?

    Also his stock times were pretty high, considering most get 4.7 to 4.9 stock

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waffles_s4 View Post
    ^^ Dont you need more stats or people rather than relying on 1 car in the entire forum?

    Also his stock times were pretty high, considering most get 4.7 to 4.9 stock
    It's also the driver too, so maybe include reaction time too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight_Rider View Post
    It's also the driver too, so maybe include reaction time too?
    Reaction time matters in drag races. I don't care about drag races. As long as u know how to launch the car properly, results should be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whitee View Post



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    Stage 1 or 2? Your signature mentions stage 2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waffles_s4 View Post
    Reaction time matters in drag races. I don't care about drag races. As long as u know how to launch the car properly, results should be fine.
    The 0-60 result is calculated the time you take off and car is moving, so if you bog on your launch, it'll be detrimental to your 0-60 time so it does matter if you're asking about 0-60 time. You're not going to get an accurate 0-60 time that way. Mine as well do a 30-60, 30-100 roll and determine how fast your car is if you don't care about the reaction time.

    You're talking about fast cars that roll launch but goes fast in 0-60 because they have 1000+ hp. S4 isn't in that category.
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    Not here to argue, just get more numbers as most posts and threads are for stage 2.

    If most stage 1 are 4.0-4.3, and most stage 2 SP are 3.6-3.9, is stage 2 really worth the extra heat and wear? Depends who u ask I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waffles_s4 View Post
    Stage 1 or 2? Your signature mentions stage 2
    Stage 1, this is stage 2




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    Logged with VCDS no launch control used

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waffles_s4 View Post
    ^^ Dont you need more stats or people rather than relying on 1 car in the entire forum?

    Also his stock times were pretty high, considering most get 4.7 to 4.9 stock
    I mean, I wouldn't expect a huge difference in 0-60 times from stage 1 as you're not increasing low end very much. It'll be better, but not dramatic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waffles_s4 View Post
    ^^ Dont you need more stats or people rather than relying on 1 car in the entire forum?

    Also his stock times were pretty high, considering most get 4.7 to 4.9 stock
    I'm in a S5 Convertible that's why my times are high I weigh about 550 lbs more than a S4. I guess if you put 2-3 friends in your car if you can get 4.33 seconds on yours then you are on par with mine at Stage 1. Stage 2 single pulley I can't get below 4.17 so far but it was winter temps every time I've tried.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waffles_s4 View Post
    Not here to argue, just get more numbers as most posts and threads are for stage 2.

    If most stage 1 are 4.0-4.3, and most stage 2 SP are 3.6-3.9, is stage 2 really worth the extra heat and wear? Depends who u ask I guess.
    You are correct, it depends. My understanding is that Stage 2 shaves approx. an additional 0.5 sec. of the 1/4 mile time (consistent with your 0-60 assertions) and better day to day driveability due to low end TQ. My understanding is that heat only degrades performance if you are hammering the car for a while or crawling for a time in city traffic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whitee View Post
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    Damn , its good to know u can get 4.00 or a tiny tad lower with just a Stage 1. I think u have one of the best numbers for stage 1. Any other mods beside say an air filter and DSG tune?

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    Quote Originally Posted by airjordan223 View Post
    Logged with VCDS no launch control used

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    A bit sad considering stock u can get 4.7 to 4.9. But then u mentioned no launch control.

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    Already calling this thread to become a train wreck.

    0-60 is such a stupid comparison metric when you are not standardizing other variables like tires, temperature, street surface, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solarsuplex View Post
    Already calling this thread to become a train wreck.

    0-60 is such a stupid comparison metric when you are not standardizing other variables like tires, temperature, street surface, etc.
    I know, I agree, but thats what we have at hand.

    Not a fan of doing 30-100 mph either, all the legal/speeding issues aside.

    Dynos are not practical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waffles_s4 View Post
    A bit sad considering stock u can get 4.7 to 4.9. But then u mentioned no launch control.
    It's much faster using LC but VCDS won't log once it's enabled.
    I would expect them to be 0.3-0.5 seconds quicker using LC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waffles_s4 View Post
    ^^ Dont you need more stats or people rather than relying on 1 car in the entire forum?

    Also his stock times were pretty high, considering most get 4.7 to 4.9 stock
    I understand wanting to get more stats but multiple people have told you what to expect with a Stage 1 tune. I've never seen anyone start so many different, and mostly pointless, threads for very searchable answers. Then when you do get answers from respected members you continue to question those answers. I don't get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelseysautobody View Post
    I understand wanting to get more stats but multiple people have told you what to expect with a Stage 1 tune. I've never seen anyone start so many different, and mostly pointless, threads for very searchable answers. Then when you do get answers from respected members you continue to question those answers. I don't get it.
    Is not that part of having online discussions? To discuss and argue different things? If u find that pointless, why do u even reply? Are not u doing the same thing u are critizing me for? I don't get it either Charlie.

    Like I said, most results are for stage 2, so far I found 2-3 results for stage 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waffles_s4 View Post
    Is not that part of having online discussions? To discuss and argue different things? If u find that pointless, why do u even reply? Are not u doing the same thing u are critizing me for? I don't get it either Charlie.

    Like I said, most results are for stage 2, so far I found 2-3 results for stage 1.
    Clogging up the forum with a new thread for very searchable questions, or questions that could be asked in an existing thread does a disservice for anyone actually using the search function correctly. I'm not criticizing you I'm trying to explain how this is suppose to work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waffles_s4 View Post
    Damn , its good to know u can get 4.00 or a tiny tad lower with just a Stage 1. I think u have one of the best numbers for stage 1. Any other mods beside say an air filter and DSG tune?
    Nope just intake and tune.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kelseysautobody View Post
    Clogging up the forum with a new thread for very searchable questions, or questions that could be asked in an existing thread does a disservice for anyone actually using the search function correctly. I'm not criticizing you I'm trying to explain how this is suppose to work.
    Sorry but I didnot get my answers elsewhere. Simple as that, and u can decide not to participate in this thread and disrupt it further. There are literally hundreds of thousands of threads, try not to enforce your logic in mine. Talk to the admins if u want to change things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waffles_s4 View Post
    Sorry but I didnot get my answers elsewhere. Simple as that, and u can decide not to participate in this thread and disrupt it further. There are literally hundreds of thousands of threads, try not to enforce your logic in mine. Talk to the admins if u want to change things.
    I'm not enforcing logic. Just sharing a possibly more effective way to get the information you want. No need to talk to admins but I'm sure they'd agree you should search before starting a new thread. 54 new threads in the 9 months you've been a member here seems a little much. Have you ever tried searching?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelseysautobody View Post
    I'm not enforcing logic. Just sharing a possibly more effective way to get the information you want. No need to talk to admins but I'm sure they'd agree you should search before starting a new thread. 54 new threads in the 9 months you've been a member here seems a little much. Have you ever tried searching?

    https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...=1#post6326651
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    Again discuss this with them admins, not in my thread. I would say 90% of my threads were not answered through searching. If u have nothing to do in life, I invite you to look for answers for each thread created, and point me where it's answered in a good fashion. Send me the results by PM. U won't get a dime though.

    You also look and sound creepy with your numbers. If u have something personal PM your way forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whitee View Post
    Nope just intake and tune.


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    Nice, and impressive also. Which tires are u running

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waffles_s4 View Post
    Again discuss this with them admins, not in my thread. I would say 90% of my threads were not answered through searching. If u have nothing to do in life, I invite you to look for answers for each thread created, and point me where it's answered in a good fashion. Send me the results by PM. U won't get a dime though.

    You also look and sound creepy with your numbers. If u have something personal PM your way forward.
    I've said nothing personal. Creepy? There's a link on everyone's main profile page to show started threads and it gives the number of threads you've started. It's not like I've scoured through the entire forum and counted your threads one by one... If you don't like my advice just block me, not going to hurt my feelings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solarsuplex View Post
    Already calling this thread to become a train wreck.

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    It's already wrecked lol

    Hey thanks Mr creepy for putting you nose where it clearly doesn't belong.

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    launch control, sport/dynamic, stage 1 with stock everything else was 4.01 with dragy.

    no launch control, drive/comfort, stage 1 with stock everything else was 4.82 with dragy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SSMOKE-U View Post
    launch control, sport/dynamic, stage 1 with stock everything else was 4.01 with dragy.

    no launch control, drive/comfort, stage 1 with stock everything else was 4.82 with dragy.
    Which tune do u have?!

    Very weird results though. Launch control + dynamic should not lead to a 0.8 seconds difference.

    Whats your stock numbers (without the stage 1)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waffles_s4 View Post
    Which tune do u have?!

    Very weird results though. Launch control + dynamic should not lead to a 0.8 seconds difference.

    Whats your stock numbers (without the stage 1)?
    It's EPL stage 1.

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    Thanks. 4.1 or 4.0 is impressive. That's M3 performance numbers

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