Fault Codes after Throttle Body Adaptation attempt - B8.5 S4

**SteveYem** · 03-10-2020 04:13 AM

Hopefully you all can help me diagnose what's going on with my B8.5 S4 6MT

Short version: I used VCDS (19.6.2) to run the Throttle Body Adaptation function, but the adaptation failed and VDCS showed a message along the lines of "...Aborted | Safety Reasons...", then the car threw a lot of seemingly unrelated fault codes shown in the auto-scan log below. The car went into limp mode, with rough fluctuating idle and barely any throttle response. Note, I excluded all items from the auto-scan where no faults were found.

Long version:
I've been chasing an issue with seemingly lousy throttle response when trying to start out in 1st gear. I am in a B8.5 S4 running EPL Stage 1 tune (although the issue exists when I'm on the stock tune as well). Thinking it may be related to the anti-stall feature that exists on the B8.5 6MT where the car automatically adds throttle to keep the engine from stalling if the driver isn't giving enough gas while trying to engage the clutch, I went into VCDS (19.6.2) Select Control Module > 53-Parking Brake > 10 Adaptation and played around with the settings for 'Drive Away Assist'. I was able to change the settings and went for a test drive and didn't notice any driveability issues or alarms/fault codes. Changing these settings did not seem to affect the laggy throttle response issue either.

Then on a whim I thought to go into the 01-Engine control module and look at the Throttle Valve Adaptation section. Before running the 'Test of Throttle Valve Adaptation', I clicked on 'Show Measuring Data' and selected Throttle Position and Accelerator Pedal Position to see what it was reading before running the test. With my foot off the gas pedal, it was showing throttle position around 14%, and then with the pedal pushed all the way to the floor it was showing around 85%. This seemed unusual to me so I proceeded with running the throttle valve adaptation test. [Can someone please comment on what values I should be seeing here?]

When I ran the test it immediately returned an error message. I did not get a screenshot of it but it was in red font and along the lines of "...Test Aborted | Safety Concerns..." or something like that. At this time the dashboard lit up with traction control system fault, sport differential fault, TPMS fault and MIL light. I ran an auto-scan in VCDS which returned all of the fault codes shown in the log below. Then I turned the ignition to the Off position, let it sit for ~10 seconds, and started the engine. Immediately the car was idling very rough, fluctuating, with barely any throttle response. TPMS, stability control, sport diff and TPMS warning lights were still illuminated and alarms beeping.

I turned the car off, ran the auto-scan again (which found all those fault codes again) and this time cleared all the fault codes. Then I started the car up again. This time the engine rev'd to ~1500 rpm and hung there for a moment, then dropped to its normal ~700 rpm but it was fluctuating/cycling a bit. I turned the car off, let it sit for a few minutes, and started it again. That time it did the initial high rev and hang thing again, but seemed to settle out at a more normal and steady idle. The stability control, sport diff, TPMS warnings did not come on this time.

I went into the 01-Engine module and looked at the fault codes section which showed the two fault codes shown at the bottom of this post. When I would clear them they would come right back. And oddly enough, when I would go into the 03-ABS module, the stability control, sport diff and TPMS warning alarms would trigger again as soon as I clicked into the module, whereas they would not come on otherwise.

Can anyone give me any guidance as to what could be happening here? Does it seem like I have an issue pertaining to the throttle body? And if so, could a throttle body issue cause all of these other fault codes to pop up? Some of them seem completely unrelated, like

Auto Scan
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Monday,09,March,2020,18:51:51:05930
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 8 x64
VCDS Version: 19.6.2.2 (x64)
Data version: 20200210 DS308.0
www.Ross-Tech.com

VIN: WAUDGAFL0FA045640 License Plate:
Mileage: 105570km-65598mi Repair Order:

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Chassis Type: FL-AU48 (8R0)
Scan: 01 03 05 08 09 15 16 17 19 22 36 3C 42 44 46 47 52 53 56 5F
62 6C 72 A9

VIN: WAUDGAFL0FA045640 Mileage: 105570km-65598miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
22-AWD -- Status: Malfunction 0010
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
3C-Lane Change -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
47-Sound System -- Status: Malfunction 0010
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
A9-Struct. Borne Sound -- Status: OK 0000

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Address 01: Engine (J623-CGXC) Labels:. 06E-907-551-CGW.clb
Part No SW: 8K5 907 551 F HW: 4G0 907 551 A
Component: 3.0l V6 TFSIH07 0001
Revision: --H07---
Coding: 0A190034052608060000
Shop #: WSC 06208 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM30TFS0218K5907551F 001001
ROD: EV_ECM30TFS0218K5907551F.rod
VCID: 3979098BB84EB887A2-806C

2 Faults Found:
6515 - Throttle Valve Controller
P1545 00 [165] - Malfunction
MIL ON - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 3
Mileage: 105570 km
Date: 2020.03.09
Time: 18:40:17

Engine speed: 0.00 /min
Normed load value: 0.0 %
Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
Coolant temperature: 101 °C
Intake air temperature: 63 °C
Ambient air pressure: 1000 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 11.780 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
Engine speed: actual: 0 /min
MAF_ENVD: 0.00000 mg/stroke
Coolant temperature (unfiltered): 95.25 °C
Engine: operating status: ES
Engine load: 0.000000 %
Vehicle speed: actual: 0 km/h

6536 - Throttle Actuator (J338)
P1579 00 [037] - Adaptation Not Started
Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 2
Mileage: 105570 km
Date: 2020.03.09
Time: 18:40:39

Engine speed: 0.00 /min
Normed load value: 0.0 %
Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
Coolant temperature: 101 °C
Intake air temperature: 63 °C
Ambient air pressure: 1000 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 11.984 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
V_TPS_1_ENVD: 0.72266 V
V_TPS_2_ENVD: 4.25781 V
Coolant temperature (unfiltered): 94.50 °C
TIA_AM_SCHA: 67.50 °C
Battery voltage: 12.492188 V
Vehicle speed: actual: 0 km/h

Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels:. 8K0-907-379-V2.clb
Part No SW: 8K0 907 379 CP HW: 8K0 907 379 CP
Component: ESP8 quattro H09 0020
Revision: -------- Serial number: --------------
Coding: 281D1A01
Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
VCID: 0919B94BA02E6807F2-805C

3 Faults Found:
01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded
000 - - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 254
Reset counter: 72
Mileage: 101473 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2019.12.26
Time: 11:00:44

Freeze Frame:
Hex Value: 0x0000
Hex Value: 0x07A2
Hex Value: 0x0015
Hex Value: 0x1096
Hex Value: 0x0000

01314 - Engine Control Module
013 - Check DTC Memory
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101101
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 32
Mileage: 105570 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2020.03.09
Time: 18:44:50

Freeze Frame:
Hex Value: 0x0000
Hex Value: 0x0022
Hex Value: 0x000B
Hex Value: 0x468C
Hex Value: 0x0000

01324 - Control Module for All Wheel Drive (J492)
013 - Check DTC Memory
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101101
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 32
Mileage: 105570 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2020.03.09
Time: 18:44:51

Freeze Frame:
Hex Value: 0x0000
Hex Value: 0x2222
Hex Value: 0x000E
Hex Value: 0x5090
Hex Value: 0x0000

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J393) Labels:. 8K0-907-064-05.clb
Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 KM HW: 8K0 907 064 KM
Component: BCM2 2.0 H15 0711
Revision: 00002001
Coding: 0F814040000000000000
Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
VCID: 0501B57B8C360C6796-8050

Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 905 852 E HW: 8K0 905 852 E
Component: J764 ELV MLB H40 0046
Serial number: 0214000154224016

1 Fault Found:
00955 - Key 1
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100010
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 178
Mileage: 101473 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2019.12.26
Time: 11:01:08

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255) Labels: Redir Fail!
Part No SW: 8K1 820 043 AQ HW: 8K1 820 043 AQ
Component: KLIMA 3 ZONEN H04 0122
Revision: C1000000 Serial number: 01160920140140
Coding: 6618228000
Shop #: WSC 06325 123 12345
VCID: 77FDCFB3C6DA6EF794-8022

1 Fault Found:
01207 - Control Module for Auxiliary Heater (J364)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 101
Mileage: 101473 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2019.12.26
Time: 11:01:06

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Address 22: AWD (J492) Labels: 8K0-907-163.clb
Part No SW: 8K0 907 163 B HW: 8K0 907 163 A
Component: 4 Wheel Drive H15 0100
Serial number: 000209140001024
ASAM Dataset: EV_AllWheelDiffeQSPCAN 003019
ROD: EV_AllWheelDiffeQSPCAN.rod
VCID: 2F6D37D3760A66370C-807A

1 Fault Found:
0059 - Please Check Fault Codes in Control Module for ABS Brakes
U1017 00 [137] - -
[New feature! Extended UDS fault detail is only supported by current gen. interfaces]
MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 3
Reset counter: 32
Mileage: 105570 km
Date: 2020.03.09
Time: 18:44:51

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Address 46: Central Conv. (J393) Labels:. 8K0-907-064-46.clb
Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 KM HW: 8K0 907 064 KM
Component: BCM2 2.0 H15 0711
Revision: 00002001 Serial number: 0345358635
Coding: 0106063A00FA404580B0013200000000
Shop #: WSC 06325 123 12345
VCID: 0501B57B8C360C6796-8050

Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 719 B HW: 8K0 959 719
Component: GTO BF H01 0080
Serial number: 00000000000000880401

Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
Component: LIN BACKUP HO H05 1501

Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 591 B HW: 8K0 959 591
Component: J245 PS050 H08 0043

1 Fault Found:
01565 - Luggage Compartment Light (W3)
009 - Open or Short to Ground
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 7
Reset counter: 27
Mileage: 101473 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2019.12.26
Time: 11:01:22

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Address 47: Sound System (J525) Labels:. 8T0-035-223-BOM.clb
Part No SW: 8T1 035 223 A HW: 8T1 035 223 A
Component: DSP Prem H05 0030
Revision: 00005001 Serial number: 94813034205706
VCID: 2D512DDB740614273E-8078

1 Fault Found:
03029 - Subwoofer (R157)
011 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101011
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 107
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
Voltage: 12.00 V
Temperature: 21.0°C
Temperature: 23.0°C
Bin. Bits: 00000100

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Address 53: Parking Brake (----) Labels: 8K0-907-801-V2.clb
Part No SW: 8K0 907 801 N HW: 8K0 907 801 J
Component: EPB-4 H02 0005
Revision: -------- Serial number: 00000001540196
ASAM Dataset: EV_ParkiBrake 001028
ROD: EV_ParkiBrake_AU48.rod
VCID: 3A7B1687BD48B39FAB-806E

1 Fault Found:
464384 - Function Restriction due to Faults in Other Modules
U1113 00 [009] - -
[New feature! Extended UDS fault detail is only supported by current gen. interfaces]
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 32
Mileage: 105570 km
Date: 2020.03.09
Time: 18:44:49

Voltage terminal 30: 10.3 V
Internal Fault ID: 188
Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
Network management state: normal
Function light in parking brake button: On
Red operating lamp: On
Red warning lamp: OFF
Green operating lamp: OFF
Yellow warning lamp: OFF
Terminal 15 status: On
RWU: not active
DSD: not active
HTR: not active
ECD: not active
ACC requested apply: not active
Auto Adjust: not active
General Inspection Function: not active
Internal Parking Brake state: static
Status of parking brake button: Not operated
Status ParkingBrake left: Set
Status ParkingBrake right: Set

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 03:53)--------------------------

Fault Codes found in 01-Engine Module
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Monday,09,March,2020,18:53:49:05930
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 8 x64
VCDS Version: 19.6.2.2 (x64)
Data version: 20200210 DS308.0
www.Ross-Tech.com

VIN: WAUDGAFL0FA045640 License Plate:

Address 01: Engine Labels: 06E-907-551-CGW.clb
Control Module Part Number: 8K5 907 551 F HW: 4G0 907 551 A
Component and/or Version: 3.0l V6 TFSIH07 0001
Software Coding: 0A190034052608060000
Work Shop Code: WSC 06208 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM30TFS0218K5907551F 001001 (AU48)
ROD: EV_ECM30TFS0218K5907551F.rod
VCID: 3979098BB84EB887A2-806C
2 Faults Found:

6515 - Throttle Valve Controller
P1545 00 [036] - Malfunction
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 3
Mileage: 105570 km
Date: 2020.03.09
Time: 18:40:17

Engine speed: 0.00 /min
Normed load value: 0.0 %
Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
Coolant temperature: 101 °C
Intake air temperature: 63 °C
Ambient air pressure: 1000 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 11.780 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
Engine speed: actual: 0 /min
MAF_ENVD: 0.00000 mg/stroke
Coolant temperature (unfiltered): 95.25 °C
Engine: operating status: ES
Engine load: 0.000000 %
Vehicle speed: actual: 0 km/h

6536 - Throttle Actuator (J338)
P1579 00 [047] - Adaptation Not Started
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 2
Mileage: 105570 km
Date: 2020.03.09
Time: 18:40:39

Engine speed: 0.00 /min
Normed load value: 0.0 %
Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
Coolant temperature: 101 °C
Intake air temperature: 63 °C
Ambient air pressure: 1000 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 11.984 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
V_TPS_1_ENVD: 0.72266 V
V_TPS_2_ENVD: 4.25781 V
Coolant temperature (unfiltered): 96.75 °C
TIA_AM_SCHA: 69.00 °C
Battery voltage: 9.953125 V
Vehicle speed: actual: 0 km/h

Readiness: 0000 0000
Monday,09,March,2020,19:01:51:05930
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 8 x64
VCDS Version: 19.6.2.2 (x64)
Data version: 20200210 DS308.0
www.Ross-Tech.com

VIN: WAUDGAFL0FA045640 License Plate:

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Mode 07: Pending emission related fault codes

Address 7E8: 1 Fault Found:
P2101 - Throttle Valve Actuator Control System: Malfunction

Monday,09,March,2020,19:12:33:05930
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 8 x64
VCDS Version: 19.6.2.2 (x64)
Data version: 20200210 DS308.0
www.Ross-Tech.com

VIN: WAUDGAFL0FA045640 License Plate:

Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 8K0-907-379-V2.clb
Control Module Part Number: 8K0 907 379 CP HW: 8K0 907 379 CP
Component and/or Version: ESP8 quattro H09 0020
Software Coding: 281D1A01
Work Shop Code: WSC 06325 000 00000
VCID: 0919B94BA02E6807F2-805C
3 Faults Found:

01314 - Engine Control Module
013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101101
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 72
Mileage: 105570 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2020.03.09
Time: 19:08:19

Freeze Frame:
Hex Value: 0x0000
Hex Value: 0x2222
Hex Value: 0x000B
Hex Value: 0x4691
Hex Value: 0x0000

01324 - Control Module for All Wheel Drive (J492)
013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101101
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 72
Mileage: 105570 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2020.03.09
Time: 19:08:19

Freeze Frame:
Hex Value: 0x0000
Hex Value: 0x2222
Hex Value: 0x000E
Hex Value: 0x5091
Hex Value: 0x0000

01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded
000 - -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 32
Mileage: 105570 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2020.03.09
Time: 19:08:33

Freeze Frame:
Hex Value: 0x0000
Hex Value: 0x0022
Hex Value: 0x0015
Hex Value: 0x108A
Hex Value: 0x0000

**MacFady** · 03-10-2020 04:46 AM

Not sure what your issue is, on the B6 all you had to do for adaptation was turn the key to position 2, put the gas pedal to the floor for 3s, turn the key off, and wait 2min.

**jsh139** · 03-10-2020 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by MacFady

Not sure what your issue is, on the B6 all you had to do for adaptation was turn the key to position 2, put the gas pedal to the floor for 3s, turn the key off, and wait 2min.

It's a similar procedure for the B8:

Manual throttle body adaptation:

The Throttle is "Drive By Wire" and adapts to your particular driving style. Do a TBA (Throttle body adaption).

1. Get in your car, it doesn't matter if you close the door or not.

2. Turn the key to the on position, the position just before the starter turns over.

3. Press the gas pedal to the floor with the key in the "on" position.

4. Hold the pedal to the floor for five seconds, then turn the key back to the "off" position(don't remove the key), then release the gas pedal.

5. Wait 2 mins. for a full alignment. During this time you may hear very faint noises and clicks. I
only heard one sitting in my car, if I got out and popped the hood I might hear more.

6. Drive the car as you always do.

Depending on your driving style, this may or may not be a big factor. I do a lot of city driving so
I noticed a big change after erasing my history. It is not hard to do this, just follow the
instructions - Key on, pedal down, 5 sec, key off pedal up, wait 2 minutes.

Keep the key in for the entire thing.

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...681#post193681

**djn876** · 03-10-2020 10:05 AM

How is your battery? Lots of people get a bunch of random electrical problems when it starts to go.

**SteveYem** · 03-10-2020 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by djn876

How is your battery? Lots of people get a bunch of random electrical problems when it starts to go.

That’s a good question. The car is now 5.5 years old so maybe the battery is starting to show signs of failure. I haven’t had any other symptoms though. I’ll have to plug in vcds again and see if I can find where to check battery health.

**MacFady** · 03-10-2020 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by SteveYem

I’ll have to plug in vcds again and see if I can find where to check battery health.

Or just use a multi-meter.

**SteveYem** · 03-10-2020 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by MacFady

Or just use a multi-meter.

True haha

**SteveYem** · 03-10-2020 12:06 PM

For anyone who has checked throttle position in VCDS, what is the expected range in terms of % open position? I was finding ~14% when not touching the peal and 85% with the pedal to the floor, but I was expecting more like ~5% when not touching the pedal to 100% with pedal to the floor.

**Antea** · 03-11-2020 04:37 AM

Originally Posted by SteveYem

For anyone who has checked throttle position in VCDS, what is the expected range in terms of % open position? I was finding ~14% when not touching the peal and 85% with the pedal to the floor, but I was expecting more like ~5% when not touching the pedal to 100% with pedal to the floor.

Your findings are right (from 15 to almost 79/85), it's ok like this !

**street2gen** · 03-11-2020 05:23 AM

I would clear faults and then run the adaption immediately after that, dont start the car in between.
It can have problems with stored and active faults while trying to do the adaption.