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  1. #1
    Established Member Two Rings
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    09 A4 Quattro 03 VW GTI
    Location
    Erie,PA

    2009 Audi A4 Quattro start and stalls (VCDS scan)

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    Hey guys,

    First time poster here (i'll try to be as descriptive as possible)

    My A4 (2009 2.0TFSI CAEB) was obviously running fine until one day i tried starting it, it idles (rough at about 1100rpm and slowly in stages goes down and down and down until it stalls. So i checked the sparks on each cylinders and we are good on all four. Fuel delivery was also checked and all is fine. Compression is about 140psi on all four cylinders. I looked at live data while cranking and i have signals from the Crank as well as the Cam. Where should i go next?

    Let me thank all in advance! :)

    p/s i wish Audi made this car a bit more user friendly to work on. Makes my MK4 GTI a gem compared to this 2.0TFSI

    - - - Updated - - -

    Friday,06,March,2020,15:37:07:09727
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
    VCDS Version: 19.6.2.2 (x64) HEX-V2 CB: 0.4508.4
    Data version: 20200210 DS308.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com


    VIN: WAUSF78K09N057656 License Plate:


    Chassis Type: 8K-AU48 (8T0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 15 16 17 19 2E 36 42 46 47 52 53 55 56 62
    65 72 77

    VIN: WAUSF78K09N057656 Mileage: 288980km-179563miles

    01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
    36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    47-Sound System -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    53-Parking Brake -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
    77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
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    Address 01: Engine (DL0MA-CAEB) Labels:| 06H-907-115-CAB.clb
    Part No SW: 8K2 907 115 AL HW: 8K2 907 115 D
    Component: 2.0l R4/4V TF H14 0001
    Revision: E1H14---
    Coding: 0104010A190F0160
    Shop #: WSC 24219 444 82898
    ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TFS0118K2907115AL 001001
    ROD: EV_ECM20TFS0118K2907115AL.rod
    VCID: 79AFEB95995B0D3F8EB-802C

    4 Faults Found:
    7901 - Right Engine Mount Solenoid Valve (N145)
    P1575 00 [047] - Short to Plus
    Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00000001
    Fault Priority: 2
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Mileage: 288986 km
    Date: 2020.03.06
    Time: 15:20:30

    Engine speed: 0.00 /min
    Normed load value: 0.0 %
    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
    Coolant temperature: -40 °C
    Intake air temperature: 3 °C
    Ambient air pressure: 980 mbar
    Voltage terminal 30: 11.025 V
    Unlearning counter according OBD: 40

    2778 - Engine Coolant Temp. Sensor (G62)
    P0118 00 [237] - Signal too High
    MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00000001
    Fault Priority: 2
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Mileage: 288986 km
    Date: 2020.03.06
    Time: 15:20:32

    Engine speed: 0.00 /min
    Normed load value: 0.0 %
    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
    Coolant temperature: -40 °C
    Intake air temperature: 3 °C
    Ambient air pressure: 980 mbar
    Voltage terminal 30: 11.002 V
    Unlearning counter according OBD: 40

    2968 - Intake Manifold Flap Position Sensor (Bank 1)
    P2015 00 [175] - Implausible Signal
    MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00000001
    Fault Priority: 2
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Mileage: 288986 km
    Date: 2020.03.06
    Time: 15:20:54

    Engine speed: 1011.50 /min
    Normed load value: 20.4 %
    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
    Coolant temperature: -40 °C
    Intake air temperature: 2 °C
    Ambient air pressure: 980 mbar
    Voltage terminal 30: 10.837 V
    Unlearning counter according OBD: 40

    4172 - Manifold Pressure / Boost Sensor (G31)
    P0236 00 [174] - Implausible Signal
    MIL ON - Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00000001
    Fault Priority: 2
    Fault Frequency: 3
    Mileage: 288986 km
    Date: 2020.03.06
    Time: 15:20:53

    Engine speed: 936.00 /min
    Normed load value: 40.0 %
    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
    Coolant temperature: -40 °C
    Intake air temperature: 3 °C
    Ambient air pressure: 980 mbar
    Voltage terminal 30: 10.578 V
    Unlearning counter according OBD: 40

    Readiness: 1110 0101

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    Address 02: Auto Trans (J217) Labels:| 0B6-927-156.clb
    Part No SW: 8K0 927 158 C HW: 0B6 927 156
    Component: 0B6 20TFSIUSA H04 0050
    Revision: --H04---
    Coding: 001002
    Shop #: WSC 02145 785 00200
    ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMAL651 A01004
    ROD: EV_TCMAL651.rod
    VCID: 363520A9E8C52247239-8062

    No fault code found.

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    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels:. 8K0-907-379-V1.clb
    Part No SW: 8K0 907 379 AF HW: 8K0 907 379 AF
    Component: ESP8 quattro H04 0210
    Revision: -------- Serial number: --------------
    Coding: 150500
    Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
    VCID: 7DA7FF858DF3311FA23-8028

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J393) Labels:. 8K0-907-064-05.clb
    Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 F HW: 8K0 907 064 F
    Component: BCM2 1.1 H80 0145
    Revision: 00002001
    Coding: 090100
    Shop #: WSC 02399 823 56573
    VCID: 333319BDFB37376F047-8066

    Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8T0 959 754 A HW: 8T0 959 754 A
    Component: FBSAUDIB8 IDG H37 0060
    Serial number: 0509000001395002

    Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 905 852 D HW: 8K0 905 852 D
    Component: ELVAUDIB8 H36 0041
    Serial number: 0208000107865010

    No fault code found.

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    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255) Labels:. 8Tx-820-043-3Z.clb
    Part No SW: 8T1 820 043 AC HW: 8T1 820 043 AC
    Component: KLIMA 3 ZONEN H06 0150
    Revision: C1000000 Serial number: 01160120091083
    Coding: 64002000
    Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
    VCID: 72BDDCB9C4AD7E67CF1-8026

    4 Faults Found:
    01314 - Engine Control Module
    008 - Implausible Signal
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 01101000
    Fault Priority: 6
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 197
    Mileage: 288986 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2020.03.06
    Time: 15:02:22

    00457 - Central Electronics Control Module / BCM (J519)
    013 - Check DTC Memory
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 01101101
    Fault Priority: 6
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 197
    Mileage: 288986 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2020.03.06
    Time: 15:02:26

    00256 - A/C Pressure/Temperature Sensor (G395)
    008 - Implausible Signal
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 01101000
    Fault Priority: 7
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 197
    Mileage: 288986 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2020.03.06
    Time: 15:02:26

    Freeze Frame:
    Temperature: 1.0°C

    01592 - Air Quality Sensor (G238)
    004 - No Signal/Communication
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 01100100
    Fault Priority: 6
    Fault Frequency: 2
    Reset counter: 197
    Mileage: 288986 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2020.03.06
    Time: 15:02:28

    Freeze Frame:
    Temperature: 1.0°C


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    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels:. 8K0-907-063.clb
    Part No SW: 8K0 907 063 D HW: 8K0 907 063 D
    Component: BCM1 1.0 H22 0253
    Revision: 05022001 Serial number: 00000000193511
    Coding: 26001091063CAF010000080300003D0D0F1C52080001016100 0000
    Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
    VCID: 303916B10A210C77795-8064

    Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K1 955 119 A HW: 8T1 955 119 Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
    Component: WWS 220109 H06 0070
    Serial number: SWF09010225020
    Coding: 00FD11

    Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 955 559 HW: 8K0 955 559 Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
    Component: RLS H04 0003
    Serial number: 10365833
    Coding: 025028

    Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8K0 941 531 AA HW: 8K0 941 531 AA
    Component: E1 - LDS H07 0080
    Serial number: 00000000001901091650

    1 Fault Found:
    03020 - Local databus 2
    012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 01101100
    Fault Priority: 2
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 197
    Mileage: 288986 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2020.03.06
    Time: 15:02:00


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    Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels:| 8K0-959-655.clb
    Part No SW: 8K0 959 655 F HW: 8K0 959 655 F
    Component: AirbagVW-AU10 H27 0410
    Serial number: 0039KD14SWE
    Coding: 303836354230303030304A55304C384B3053
    Shop #: WSC 02145 785 00200
    ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010 A02007
    ROD: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010_A02.rod
    VCID: 40D94671BA019CF7895-8014

    Seat occupied recognition:
    Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 339 B HW: 8K0 959 339 B
    Component: BF-Gewichtss. H01 0030
    Serial number: 5810000R0800003A6L

    Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
    Serial number: 6334MSME460562310

    Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side:
    Serial number: 6344MSME42656F35K

    Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side:
    Serial number: 6352QSME6C1F3438T

    Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side:
    Serial number: 6362QSME0A1713202

    Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side:
    Serial number: 63732SME09163404Q

    Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side:
    Serial number: 63832SME37170636X

    No fault code found.

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    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527) Labels:. 8K0-953-568.clb
    Part No SW: 8K0 953 568 F HW: 8K0 953 568 F
    Component: Lenks.Modul H13 0013
    Revision: -------- Serial number: 90315IAL000IW
    Coding: 000016
    Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
    VCID: 3D273F85CD73F11FE23-8068

    Component: E221 - MFL H02 0003

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels:. 8T0-920-xxx-17.clb
    Part No SW: 8K0 920 950 A HW: 8K0 920 950 A
    Component: KOMBIINSTR. H18 0224
    Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 9DR601G19
    Coding: 8B1609000300D705020000
    Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
    VCID: 2D070FC51D13619F523-8078

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels:. 8T0-907-468.clb
    Part No SW: 8T0 907 468 M HW: 8T0 907 468 H
    Component: GW-BEM 5CAN H06 0095
    Revision: GB300043 Serial number: 4300G091208079
    Coding: 000303
    Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
    VCID: 4BC3615D83C74FAF6C7-801E

    Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 915 181 B HW: 8K0 915 181 B
    Component: J367-BDM H04 0150
    Serial number: 1905E608070109

    1 Fault Found:
    03041 - Energy Management Active
    000 - - - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00100000
    Fault Priority: 7
    Fault Frequency: 8
    Reset counter: 237
    Mileage: 288986 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2020.03.06
    Time: 14:59:00


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 2E: Media Player 3 (R199) Labels:. 8T0-035-785.clb
    Part No SW: 8T0 035 785 HW: 8T0 035 785
    Component: SG ext.Player H06 0210
    Revision: 00000000
    Coding: 020302
    Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
    VCID: 78A9EE91A2D11437F15-802C

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr (J136) Labels:. 8T0-959-760.clb
    Part No SW: 8K0 959 760 HW: 8K0 959 760
    Component: MEM-FS H05 0043
    Revision: AA000000 Serial number: 00001001213910
    Coding: 00581300000000000000
    Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
    VCID: 77ABEDADAFCF1B4FF8F-8022

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386) Labels:. 8K0-959-793.clb
    Part No SW: 8K0 959 793 D HW: 8K0 959 793 D
    Component: TSG FA H11 0250
    Revision: Serial number: 0000008282755
    Coding: 011C03204E00410001
    Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
    VCID: 41DF4375B18B95FF86B-8014

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv. (J393) Labels:. 8K0-907-064-46.clb
    Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 F HW: 8K0 907 064 F
    Component: BCM2 1.1 H80 0145
    Revision: 00002001 Serial number: 0116791574
    Coding: 0106023A007A440400B001
    Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
    VCID: 333319BDFB37376F047-8066

    Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 719 HW: 8K0 959 719
    Component: GTO BF H06 0040
    Serial number: 00000000000000113791

    Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
    Component: LIN BACKUP HO H03 1301

    Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 591 HW: 8K0 959 591
    Component: J245 PS034 H06 0037

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 47: Sound System (J525) Labels:. 8T0-035-223-ASC.clb
    Part No SW: 8T0 035 223 AB HW: 8T0 035 223
    Component: DSP STD H07 0220
    Revision: S2100000
    Coding: 0203010102
    Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
    VCID: 6E85C8C9D0955A872B9-803A

    1 Fault Found:
    02247 - Subwoofer (R148/R157)
    011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00101011
    Fault Priority: 5
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 237
    Mileage: 288986 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2020.03.06
    Time: 15:09:00

    Freeze Frame:
    Voltage: 11.30 V
    Temperature: 1.0°C
    Bin. Bits: 00000001


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387) Labels:. 8K0-959-792.clb
    Part No SW: 8K0 959 792 D HW: 8K0 959 792 D
    Component: TSG BF H11 0250
    Revision: Serial number: 0000008360601
    Coding: 011C03204E00410001
    Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
    VCID: 40D94671BA819CF7895-8014

    1 Fault Found:
    00920 - Heated Outside Mirrors; Driver Side (Z4) / Passenger Side (Z5)
    012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 01101100
    Fault Priority: 3
    Fault Frequency: 2
    Reset counter: 197
    Mileage: 288986 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2020.03.06
    Time: 15:12:35


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 53: Parking Brake (J540) Labels: 8K0-907-801-V1.clb
    Part No SW: 8K0 907 801 F HW: 8K0 907 801 F
    Component: EPB Audi B8 H06 0070
    Revision: 00000003 Serial number: 10000000168667
    Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
    VCID: 323D1CB9042D3E670F1-8066

    1 Fault Found:
    01321 - Control Module for Airbags (J234)
    013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00101101
    Fault Priority: 4
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 237
    Mileage: 288986 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2020.03.06
    Time: 15:02:23

    Freeze Frame:
    Voltage: 11.30 V
    Count: 80
    Speed: 0.0 km/h
    Hex Value: 0x0270
    Hex Value: 0x0001
    Hex Value: 0x0101


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    Address 55: Headlight Range Labels: 8K0-907-357.clb
    Part No: 8K5 907 357
    Component: Dynamische LWR H01 0010
    Revision: 00000001 Serial number:
    Coding: 0000004
    Shop #: WSC 02145 785 00200
    VCID: 77ABEDADA3CF1B4FF8F-8022

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio (J503) Labels:. 8Tx-035-1xx-56.clb
    Part No SW: 8T1 035 195 AD HW: 8T1 035 195 AD
    Component: Symph3 Sirius H01 0301
    Revision: 00000003 Serial number: AUZ5Z4H1070725
    Coding: 040200020101850043D9070800
    Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
    VCID: 79AFEB9599DB0D3F8EB-802C

    Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8T0 919 603 A HW: 8T0 919 603 A
    Component: Display

    2 Faults Found:
    02635 - Tuner Not Enabled/Activated
    000 - -
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 01100000
    Fault Priority: 7
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 197
    Mileage: 288986 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2020.03.06
    Time: 15:02:32

    03157 - Functionality limited due to Communications Disruption
    000 - - - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00100000
    Fault Priority: 6
    Fault Frequency: 2
    Reset counter: 237
    Mileage: 288986 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2020.03.06
    Time: 15:07:35

    Freeze Frame:
    Bin. Bits: 00000000
    Bin. Bits: 00000000
    Bin. Bits: 00000000
    Bin. Bits: 00000000
    Bin. Bits: 00000000
    Bin. Bits: 10000000
    Bin. Bits: 00000000
    Bin. Bits: 00000000


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    Address 62: Door, Rear Left (J388) Labels:. 4F0-959-795.clb
    Part No SW: 4F0 959 795 N HW: 8K0 959 795 C
    Component: TSG HL H10 0251
    Revision: Serial number: 0000100659622
    Coding: 010C03204000210001
    Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
    VCID: 44D14A61AE9980D7ADD-8010

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 65: Tire Pressure (J502) Labels: 8K0-907-273.clb
    Part No SW: 8K0 907 273 A HW: 8K0 907 273 A
    Component: J502-RDK H03 0250
    Revision: 00001001 Serial number: 13140790039580
    Coding: 0CD154
    Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
    VCID: 303916B10A210C77795-8064

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 72: Door, Rear Right (J389) Labels:. 4F0-959-795.clb
    Part No SW: 4F0 959 795 N HW: 8K0 959 795 C
    Component: TSG HR H10 0251
    Revision: Serial number: 0000100659653
    Coding: 010C03204000210001
    Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
    VCID: 44D14A61AE9980D7ADD-8010

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 77: Telephone Labels: 8P0-862-335.lbl
    Part No SW: 8T0 862 336 C HW: 8T0 862 336 C
    Component: FSE_256x BT H33 0550
    Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000005030575
    Coding: 0010370
    Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
    VCID: 3B23319DDF67FF2FDC7-806E

    No fault code found.

    End----(Elapsed Time: 01:42, VBatt start/end: 11.2V/11.1V. VIgn 11.1V)-----

  2. #2
    Veteran Member Four Rings
    Join Date
    Jul 16 2018
    AZ Member #
    422473
    Location
    Atlanta

    J519 local data bus 2 as well as G395 and G238. So that's the LIN bus between the J519, the G395, and the G238. The other members of that LIN bus is the J530 Homelink transmitter and the driver door seat memory buttons. There is a TSB for G395 wiring problems. But you'd need to go and unplug the G395 and then the G238 and see if the bus error DTC does away with one or the other device detached. The DTCs seem to imply the G238 is dead and the G395 is talking non-sense. The are driven by fuses in fuse panel C (left end of dash), row 1, fuses 5 and 12. You should check those.

    Then you have four more devices attached to the ECM with problems. G62 coolant temp, G31 MAP, N145 right motor mount, and manifold flap position issue (monitored by G336 sensor, implemented by N316 solenoid). The only commonality here is the T14f plug, the large 14-pin plug that hangs off the intake manifold (along with the 3-pin plug to the knock sensor and the 8-pin plug to the injectors). I'd unplug and replug that thing and see if that cleans up the connection. Check the wires while you're at it.
    2009 A4 Avant 2.0T quattro Prestige, 275k miles

  3. #3
    Established Member Two Rings
    Join Date
    Nov 21 2019
    AZ Member #
    527825
    My Garage
    09 A4 Quattro 03 VW GTI
    Location
    Erie,PA

    Thanks Smac770 for the pointers, those are good places to start.

    For those who are following,

    G395 Aircon Pressure Sensor (Driver side just behind the grille)
    G238 Air Quality Sensor (by the cabin filter)
    G62 Coolant Temp Sensor
    G31 Manifold Pressure Sensor
    N145 Motor Mount Solenoid Valve
    G336 Intake flap position sensor (like Smac770 said implemented by (N316 solenoid)

    I'll be checking all respective connectors and hit it with electrical contact cleaner too while im at it.
    I'll also check power on all fuses...
    Smac770, so would you say my problem for the time being could be electrical?

    I'll report back any updates.

  4. #4
    Established Member Two Rings
    Join Date
    Nov 21 2019
    AZ Member #
    527825
    My Garage
    09 A4 Quattro 03 VW GTI
    Location
    Erie,PA

    update:
    i went through the wiring and connectors on that T14f connector along with the knock and injectors wires (close-by so why not).
    Check all the fuses again and they are all okay. This manage to get rid of some of my errors. Alternator spits out 13.2v during short idle.

    New found symptom:
    car would hold idle a bit longer than yesterday but still very rough and stalls as soon as i gave a little bit of gas (no response in terms of raised RPM, just cuts off engine)

    Need advice on:
    Where should i start to diagnose the 03020 - Local databus 2 ?

    New Scan:
    Code:
    Saturday,07,March,2020,09:20:49:09727
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
    VCDS Version: 19.6.2.2 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4508.4
    Data version: 20200210 DS308.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: WAUSF78K09N057656   License Plate: 
    
    
    Chassis Type: 8K-AU48 (8T0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 15 16 17 19 2E 36 42 46 47 52 53 55 56 62
              65 72 77
    
    VIN: WAUSF78K09N057656   Mileage: 288980km-179563miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
    36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
    55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
    77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (DL0MA-CAEB)       Labels:| 06H-907-115-CAB.clb
       Part No SW: 8K2 907 115 AL    HW: 8K2 907 115 D
       Component: 2.0l R4/4V TF H14 0001  
       Revision: E1H14---    
       Coding: 0104010A190F0160
       Shop #: WSC 24219 444 82898
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TFS0118K2907115AL 001001
       ROD: EV_ECM20TFS0118K2907115AL.rod
       VCID: 79AFEB95995B0D3F8EB-802C
    
    1 Fault Found:
    7901 - Right Engine Mount Solenoid Valve (N145) 
              P1575 00 [039] - Short to Plus
              Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Mileage: 288986 km
                        Date: 2020.03.07
                        Time: 09:19:29
    
                        Engine speed: 0.00 /min
                        Normed load value: 0.0 %
                        Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                        Coolant temperature: 3 °C
                        Intake air temperature: 3 °C
                        Ambient air pressure: 1000 mbar
                        Voltage terminal 30: 12.345 V
                        Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
    
    Readiness: 1110 0101
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 02: Auto Trans (J217)       Labels:| 0B6-927-156.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 927 158 C    HW: 0B6 927 156 
       Component: 0B6 20TFSIUSA H04 0050  
       Revision: --H04---    
       Coding: 001002
       Shop #: WSC 02145 785 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMAL651 A01004
       ROD: EV_TCMAL651.rod
       VCID: 363520A9E8C52247239-8062
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 8K0-907-379-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 379 AF    HW: 8K0 907 379 AF
       Component: ESP8 quattro  H04 0210  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
       Coding: 150500
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 7DA7FF858DF3311FA23-8028
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J393)       Labels:. 8K0-907-064-05.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 F    HW: 8K0 907 064 F
       Component: BCM2 1.1      H80 0145  
       Revision: 00002001    
       Coding: 090100
       Shop #: WSC 02399 823 56573
       VCID: 333319BDFB37376F047-8066
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8T0 959 754 A    HW: 8T0 959 754 A
       Component: FBSAUDIB8 IDG  H37 0060 
       Serial number: 0509000001395002    
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 905 852 D    HW: 8K0 905 852 D
       Component: ELVAUDIB8  H36 0041 
       Serial number: 0208000107865010    
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:. 8Tx-820-043-3Z.clb
       Part No SW: 8T1 820 043 AC    HW: 8T1 820 043 AC
       Component: KLIMA 3 ZONEN H06 0150  
       Revision: C1000000    Serial number: 01160120091083
       Coding: 64002000
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 72BDDCB9C4AD7E67CF1-8026
    
    3 Faults Found:
    00457 - Central Electronics Control Module / BCM (J519) 
                013 - Check DTC Memory
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101101
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 197
                        Mileage: 288986 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2020.03.07
                        Time: 09:19:29
    
    00256 - A/C Pressure/Temperature Sensor (G395) 
                008 - Implausible Signal
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101000
                        Fault Priority: 7
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 197
                        Mileage: 288986 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2020.03.07
                        Time: 09:19:29
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Temperature: 0.0°C
    
    01592 - Air Quality Sensor (G238) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100100
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 197
                        Mileage: 288986 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2020.03.07
                        Time: 09:19:31
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Temperature: 0.0°C
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 8K0-907-063.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 063 D    HW: 8K0 907 063 D
       Component: BCM1 1.0      H22 0253  
       Revision: 05022001    Serial number: 00000000193511
       Coding: 26001091063CAF010000080300003D0D0F1C520800010161000000
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 303916B10A210C77795-8064
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K1 955 119 A    HW: 8T1 955 119   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: WWS 220109  H06 0070 
       Serial number: SWF09010225020      
       Coding: 00FD11
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 955 559     HW: 8K0 955 559   Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
       Component: RLS  H04 0003 
       Serial number: 10365833            
       Coding: 025028
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8K0 941 531 AA    HW: 8K0 941 531 AA
       Component: E1 - LDS  H07 0080 
       Serial number: 00000000001901091650
    
    1 Fault Found:
    03020 - Local databus 2 
                012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 197
                        Mileage: 288986 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2020.03.07
                        Time: 09:19:00
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 8K0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 959 655 F    HW: 8K0 959 655 F
       Component: AirbagVW-AU10 H27 0410  
       Serial number: 0039KD14SWE   
       Coding: 303836354230303030304A55304C384B3053
       Shop #: WSC 02145 785 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010 A02007
       ROD: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010_A02.rod
       VCID: 40D94671BA019CF7895-8014
    
       Seat occupied recognition: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 339 B    HW: 8K0 959 339 B
       Component: BF-Gewichtss.  H01 0030 
       Serial number: 5810000R0800003A6L
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
       Serial number: 6334MSME460562310
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
       Serial number: 6344MSME42656F35K
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
       Serial number: 6352QSME6C1F3438T
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
       Serial number: 6362QSME0A1713202
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side: 
       Serial number: 63732SME09163404Q
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side: 
       Serial number: 63832SME37170636X
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:. 8K0-953-568.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 953 568 F    HW: 8K0 953 568 F
       Component: Lenks.Modul   H13 0013  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 90315IAL000IW 
       Coding: 000016
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 3D273F85CD73F11FE23-8068
    
       Component: E221 - MFL  H02 0003 
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:. 8T0-920-xxx-17.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 920 950 A    HW: 8K0 920 950 A
       Component: KOMBIINSTR.   H18 0224  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 9DR601G19     
       Coding: 8B1609000300D705020000
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 2D070FC51D13619F523-8078
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 8T0-907-468.clb
       Part No SW: 8T0 907 468 M    HW: 8T0 907 468 H
       Component: GW-BEM 5CAN   H06 0095  
       Revision: GB300043    Serial number: 4300G091208079
       Coding: 000303
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 4BC3615D83C74FAF6C7-801E
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 915 181 B    HW: 8K0 915 181 B
       Component: J367-BDM  H04 0150 
       Serial number: 1905E608070109      
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 2E: Media Player 3 (R199)       Labels:. 8T0-035-785.clb
       Part No SW: 8T0 035 785     HW: 8T0 035 785 
       Component: SG ext.Player H06 0210  
       Revision: 00000000    
       Coding: 020302
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 78A9EE91A2D11437F15-802C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr (J136)       Labels:. 8T0-959-760.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 959 760     HW: 8K0 959 760 
       Component: MEM-FS        H05 0043  
       Revision: AA000000    Serial number: 00001001213910
       Coding: 00581300000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 77ABEDADAFCF1B4FF8F-8022
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:. 8K0-959-793.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 959 793 D    HW: 8K0 959 793 D
       Component: TSG FA        H11 0250  
       Revision:             Serial number: 0000008282755 
       Coding: 011C03204E00410001
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 41DF4375B18B95FF86B-8014
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv. (J393)       Labels:. 8K0-907-064-46.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 F    HW: 8K0 907 064 F
       Component: BCM2 1.1      H80 0145  
       Revision: 00002001    Serial number: 0116791574    
       Coding: 0106023A007A440400B001
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 333319BDFB37376F047-8066
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 719     HW: 8K0 959 719 
       Component: GTO BF  H06 0040 
       Serial number: 00000000000000113791
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
       Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H03 1301 
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 591     HW: 8K0 959 591 
       Component: J245 PS034  H06 0037 
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 47: Sound System (J525)       Labels:. 8T0-035-223-ASC.clb
       Part No SW: 8T0 035 223 AB    HW: 8T0 035 223 
       Component: DSP STD       H07 0220  
       Revision: S2100000    
       Coding: 0203010102
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 6E85C8C9D0955A872B9-803A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:. 8K0-959-792.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 959 792 D    HW: 8K0 959 792 D
       Component: TSG BF        H11 0250  
       Revision:             Serial number: 0000008360601 
       Coding: 011C03204E00410001
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 40D94671BA819CF7895-8014
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 53: Parking Brake (J540)       Labels: 8K0-907-801-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 801 F    HW: 8K0 907 801 F
       Component: EPB Audi B8   H06 0070  
       Revision: 00000003    Serial number: 10000000168667
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 323D1CB9042D3E670F1-8066
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 8K0-907-357.clb
       Part No: 8K5 907 357 
       Component: Dynamische LWR  H01 0010  
       Revision: 00000001    Serial number:               
       Coding: 0000004
       Shop #: WSC 02145 785 00200
       VCID: 77ABEDADA3CF1B4FF8F-8022
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels:. 8Tx-035-1xx-56.clb
       Part No SW: 8T1 035 195 AD    HW: 8T1 035 195 AD
       Component: Symph3 Sirius H01 0301  
       Revision: 00000003    Serial number: AUZ5Z4H1070725
       Coding: 040200020101850043D9070800
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 79AFEB9599DB0D3F8EB-802C
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8T0 919 603 A    HW: 8T0 919 603 A
       Component: Display  
    
    1 Fault Found:
    02635 - Tuner Not Enabled/Activated 
                000 - -
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100000
                        Fault Priority: 7
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 197
                        Mileage: 288986 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2020.03.07
                        Time: 09:19:35
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 62: Door, Rear Left (J388)       Labels:. 4F0-959-795.clb
       Part No SW: 4F0 959 795 N    HW: 8K0 959 795 C
       Component: TSG HL        H10 0251  
       Revision:             Serial number: 0000100659622 
       Coding: 010C03204000210001
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 44D14A61AE9980D7ADD-8010
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 65: Tire Pressure (J502)       Labels: 8K0-907-273.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 273 A    HW: 8K0 907 273 A
       Component: J502-RDK      H03 0250  
       Revision: 00001001    Serial number: 13140790039580
       Coding: 0CD154
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 303916B10A210C77795-8064
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 72: Door, Rear Right (J389)       Labels:. 4F0-959-795.clb
       Part No SW: 4F0 959 795 N    HW: 8K0 959 795 C
       Component: TSG HR        H10 0251  
       Revision:             Serial number: 0000100659653 
       Coding: 010C03204000210001
       Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
       VCID: 44D14A61AE9980D7ADD-8010
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 77: Telephone        Labels: 8P0-862-335.lbl
       Part No SW: 8T0 862 336 C    HW: 8T0 862 336 C
       Component: FSE_256x BT     H33 0550  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000005030575
       Coding: 0010370
       Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
       VCID: 3B23319DDF67FF2FDC7-806E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:38, VBatt start/end: 12.6V/12.3V)-----------

  5. #5
    Veteran Member Four Rings
    Join Date
    Jul 16 2018
    AZ Member #
    422473
    Location
    Atlanta

    I already discussed the "local databus 2", that's the J519 LIN bus 2, with the G395 and G238 devices. Did you check the bus status after unplugging them, as well as checking their fuses? Something on that single wire bus is making issues. Did you search on that G395 TSB to look over the wiring defect that might be possible on your vehicle?

    Short to plus on the right motor mount, my guess would be it's simply failed and needs to be replaced. The other possibility is the wire that runs from the mount plug pin 2 back to the ECM has been shorted to something sourcing 12v. You might actually want to open up that ECM box (under the washer fuild filler tube in the plenum chamber) and make sure things are dry in there; pull the two big plugs off the ECM and make sure they look good.

    No idea what would cause the stall as soon as you touch the gas.
    2009 A4 Avant 2.0T quattro Prestige, 275k miles

  6. #6
    Established Member Two Rings
    Join Date
    Nov 21 2019
    AZ Member #
    527825
    My Garage
    09 A4 Quattro 03 VW GTI
    Location
    Erie,PA

    Smac770,

    apology for the late update. and yes i found out that there is a TSB for the J519 circuit problem. I do have a question about dealing with the dealer (never been there ever as i have always worked on m own car plus all my cars always starts out as a project car), i know for a fact that my car is out of warranty, for a TSB im assuming i have to cover the cost correct? unlike recalls?

    as for the mount, im leaning towards it being malfunctioning being the car has 179K on it. would you think measuring the other sides resitance and comparing the one on the right would be a good start?

    i've used up my weekend to solve the start stall issue and i have to say i've been successful. looking at the live data from the TV Value vs the RPM at idle (87.5 % @ 1100RPM) lead me to chase a suffocation issue. its embarrassing but im letting everyone know here incase it ever happen to someone else, replace your air filter every once in a while fellas. :D my intake hose going into the TV was literally collapsed during idle because of this.

    Thanks for everyone that participated and i hope i can also contribute in the future to members of the forum. VCDS is sure a great tool!

  7. #7
    Veteran Member Four Rings
    Join Date
    Jul 16 2018
    AZ Member #
    422473
    Location
    Atlanta

    A TSB is just a service bulletin, it's not a warranty extension or a recall. So it's a "hey you might run into this problem, here's how to analyze and resolve it". I would tend to just do the work myself, unless there's something to the procedure that is outside the scope of a home garage.

    Yeah, on the mount, you could just pull the plug on both sides and see if one is a short. They are easy to get to if you can lift the car.

    Nice find on the thottle plate duty cycle at idle issue. The maintenance schedule for our car has the engine air filter at every 60k miles.

    Wow, Audi of America has gone even more dick than they already were as an anti-owner entity. They've now put the maintenance schedules behind a VIN wall. I've never seen a company go through more steps and actions year after year to scream "don't do business with us". Their parts site was already crap, and then has become nearly non-functional over the past year. And who the hell puts the owner's manuals behind a VIN wall? Top secret documentation only privy to the entitled? Getting tired of the business ethics at this company.
    2009 A4 Avant 2.0T quattro Prestige, 275k miles

  8. #8
    Established Member Two Rings
    Join Date
    Nov 21 2019
    AZ Member #
    527825
    My Garage
    09 A4 Quattro 03 VW GTI
    Location
    Erie,PA

    Thanks for the info!

    Its really frustrating,
    At this rate i wont be surprised if one day they come up with engines that are sealed up that you cant work on em anymore. "oh it broke? you need a new engine sir."

    Anyways, thanks mate!

  9. #9
    Veteran Member Four Rings
    Join Date
    Jul 16 2018
    AZ Member #
    422473
    Location
    Atlanta

    Well, with the electric motors, I imagine that might just be the case. And that's fine. I can't wait for quad electric motors to finally arrive so we can dump the ICE engines and their absurd variety of undiagnoseable components, the transmissions and transfer cases and differentials, the friction brake systems.
    2009 A4 Avant 2.0T quattro Prestige, 275k miles

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