Originally Posted by
BDP
Yes, I was using your time. It was the only sub 6 second RS3 I could find. Nice time!
Wait…the one person here who has ran a sub 6 second 60-130 time is “some of the faster stock turbo RS3’s owners”. That’s a plural statement right? Where are the others? Do you just type stuff and think because you typed it it's true? I’m pretty sure your definition of dismantled and destroyed are different from the general English speaking population. It’s also extremely apparent to me you don’t read anything anyone posts. This is what makes replying to you difficult (not because you post facts or have points) but because I’m fairly certain nothing anyone, not just me, types, actually gets processed in your head.
If the goal post is NOW that I only have been focusing on the “fastest” times on each side you have clearly have missed the general premise not just from me but others who have said the same thing about 60-130 times.
So let me break this all down for you..
I have made multiple points many of which you have ignored and I’m not going to go back and spell them out for you. You are the one that has honed in on the fastest times on both sides argument because I’m guessing you have nothing to add on my other points (averages, how the cars achieve their trap speeds) < I had to because you don’t read. Anyhoo, there is ONE...yes ONE RS3 on the below list that has ran a sub 6 second 60-130 with a stock turbo on E85. There may be more, but in the PRESENT there isn’t. That person Yes came into this thread and stated he's gone faster by removing EVEN MORE WEIGHT from the car and is still slower than a full interior F80 stock turbo on E85. Also, somehow YOU want to completely ignore the fact that there are E85 cars on that same RS3 list (with full interiors) that ran 8 second and high 7 second 60-130's. You also want to ignore the fact there isn't just one 6 second F80 car on the F80 list but multiple ones with full interiors and many in the low 7's.
https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...-**ADD-YOURS**
So what is it exactly that's changed here bud? < It's a rhetorical question.
If you want to fall on the fastest time sword last time I checked a 6.4 is still faster than a 6.6. Maybe Painstain can put some lexan windows in and a carbon fiber hood and remove the dash and go chase that 6.4 record. I don’t care. In the end I’m going to stand by not just my assessment but others as well and look at the sum of all the parts on both sides.
I'll just keep posting this video for you till it sinks in or you can continue to bury your head in the sand and click your Ruby slippers saying "There's no place like my RS3".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_E_qXDo0wOA
One last thing bud, where are your 60-130 times for your RS3? Can I see your time slips? Do you have any videos racing M3’s and M4’s in your RS3? Surely the guy who tries to make a point that non RS3 owners shouldn’t talk about RS3’s has some quantitative data on their car right? < You probably would have posted that already if you had it wouldn’t you.
* Disclaimer, so you don't go getting all ahead of yourself claiming "dismantles" or any other baseless claims. I'm going to go enjoy my weekend so while your checking my background posts snuggling up in your official RS3 P.J.s. I won't be checking back on this thread until Monday.*
1) This is honestly the last time I post in response to you, as you clearly can't even tell the difference between "sub six and sub seven". Sub six means in the 5...
2) We're going on your rhetoric, the one where you were the one initially defending Vargas and postulating when you've had 0 real life experience on both cars (See: cherry-picking data from 60-130 data on the f8x forum).
"But they aren't...what vargas is saying is spot on. The absolute best time posted at least on this forum for an E85 bolt on car is 6.9 seconds. That's a stripped out car which is ever so popular around here. There are full interior F80 running high 6's and a best of 6.40."
This is your first post in response to me.
The first point
you ever made in your logical argument.
So tell me why now why you're saying this:
"You are the one that has honed in on the fastest times on both sides argument because I’m guessing you have nothing to add on my other points (averages, how the cars achieve their trap speeds) < I had to because you don’t read."
Was that not your
central postulated proof as to why you thought the f8x was faster than the RS3?
Or are you going to pretend chronologically, that wasn't your follow-up to this statement:
"what vargas is saying is spot on"?
-->doyouevenlogic?
"Thanks for the history lesson. However in present day which last time I checked where we exist, it is what is. I compared the EXTREME end of the spectrum which is a fully gutted RS3 with FBO on E85 to the 6.4 FBO E85 F80. What the flying hippy d*cks are you talking about most RS3 owners aren’t EXTREME? Pretty much half the damn times out there are GUTTED and going to the EXTREME by literally running ONE damn racing seat in their car to grab a record."
--> Your rhetoric where you claim a 6.9 is the EXTREME end of the RS3 spectrum.
Note what you said:
"In present day, it is what it is".
Once again a baseless conclusion that there were no faster stock turbo RS3s and your belief that the 6.9 was the "Extreme".
You tried to utilize the discrepancy between the f8x's 6.4 world record run to what you thought was the best example of a RS3 stock turbo 60-130 time in order to prove a point. No?
"If you want to fall on the fastest time sword last time I checked a 6.4 is still faster than a 6.6."
A
full-weight TTRS stock turbo will run 6.0 flat 60-130 times. If you're going to compare the 2-door M4.
Need proof for this too? Hint: Google is your friend
Dismantled.
3) My point for the 100th time, is that the f8x is not faster than the RS3 on a roll (mod for mod, S1/S2). That's all I'm refuting.
4)
"Wait…the one person here who has ran a sub 6 second 60-130 time is “some of the faster stock turbo RS3’s owners”. That’s a plural statement right? Where are the others? Do you just type stuff and think because you typed it it's true?"
There are multiple RS3s in the 6s range because they are all using the
same Unitronic Stage 2 OTS map, with weight reduction. Similar tune, similar power, similar 60-130.
In fact, repeatable. I'm sorry these things exist just because you choose to deny it. Please tell me you know what a OTS map is?
Refuted, see pic below since you asked so nicely.
5) Don't ever talk about
averages if you didn't see the data from S1/S2 OTS maps I posted from the f8x forum. Those runs show the real 60-130s of S1/S2 f8x cars...look at the feedback from actual owners.
Not high 6s or low 7s like the ones you cherry-picked!
I'll make it easy as this post summarizes the results:
"Correct,
There are 60 total F80/82 M3/M4 on Dragy's total History Leaderboard.
From the data collected these are the average results for 60mph-130mph runs on Dragy (not to be confused with 100-200kmh)...
Stock F80/82 10.0-10.9sec
Stage One OTS 8.6-9.4sec
Stage Two OTS w/DP 8.1-8.6sec
Custom Tuned, Ethanol Mixture,
Bigger Turbos, etc... under 8.1sec
This data was taken from Dragy's Total Leaderboard History of 60mph-130mph runs and are averages of over 60 total M3/M4 F80/82. And there may be different averages/results on other Platforms like Vbox, PGear. And there may be a few Unicorns out there as well. "
6) It's grown apparent that you're just a challenged man who keeps resorting to ad hominem attacks and choice vocabulary such as "touching yourself". Also, you really shouldn't be criticizing my usage of the english language when you can't differentiate "you're" from "your" (See attached:
"I'm going to go enjoy my weekend so while your checking my background posts snuggling up in your official RS3 P.J.s.").
By the way, I posted your earlier posts as a way of picking out your personable character...Clearly you have some beef against RS3 owners way before this thread if you're complaining about "pee-pee measurements" on an online forum.
You post here as if you have something meaningful to add to the conversation with
0 experience comparing the two cars. Irrelevant of anything I've said.
Why are you in here, exactly? Are you just one of those people that like to post comments on YT videos about cars you don't own?
But since you're asking for my qualifications, will you send me yours too? Oh, wait you drive a S4...
That asides, do you need to have videos of illegal street racing or drag strip times in order to prove you have real world experience? What's the difference between you and me? -->I actually own these cars.
Is that the video you posted of your own runs? No it's the same S1+ RS3 vs. Custom f8x tune trapping over 130+ from a f8x owner...If you had bothered to read the description you would see that's a
Stage 1 RS3.
This works as a two-way ship.
You don't get to make claims and arguments if you can't go back to the fact you've never sat 0.1 seconds in your own RS3 or F8x.
I currently own a 19 RS3 and have owned a 17 F87 M2, 18 F80 M3, 18 F82 M4, 19 F82 M4 CS. So these are my
real sentiments regarding the thread topic vs. your intangibles. Would you like to see proof as well? Hint: Google my name in the respective forums.
Keep enjoying your S4 and being bitter at the RS3 community, when in reality for the 2nd time, most of us own P cars and highly modified drag cars.
I've taken the time to address all of your grievances. BUT, I'm sure you'll still have something to say. So...
You win. Clearly you're the more successful man, the more intelligent man, and the man with the most experience on roll-racing cars--even ones you
don't own :)
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