SQ5 Tune, questions about which one...

[Goldfinger978]

Looking to get a tune for my 2017 SQ5. I posted this to a Tuner's thread but any help in advance from anyone else would be appreciated


1: Any support for Apple products? IE, am I able to upload your tune using my MacBook? Or am I stuck buying a cheap $400 PC laptop to upload your tune?
2: I live in San Diego, if I decide to run a E40/E85 tune and get stuck somewhere without that type of fuel, am I able to use my laptop to switch tunes? Also, will I need internet access to upload a tune if I already have it purchased. As in, if I purchase a 91 oct file and a E40/E85 file, will I need internet access to upload a previously purchased file? If I'm stuck in the middle of nowhere, I might not have access to the internet.

I feel like in this market, someone would address these types of issues? I don't mind purchasing a cheap laptop, even though it kind of stinks b/c that's an additional $300-$400 to run a tune, just because I use apple. But then again, I understand where you guys are coming from. If there isn't a lot of people using Apple stuff, there's no point dumping a lot of money in software design if no one uses it. Thanks again and looking forward to getting my SQ5 tuned in the near future.

[zatta]

I use EPL and I like it, great customer service too. I also bought a $100 tablet from EPL to flash the tunes because I also have all mac stuff. And I'm pretty sure you can alternate tunes on the fly with EPL but not entirely sure.

[mowse]

Go EPL

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[joe916]

Looking to get a tune for my 2017 SQ5. I posted this to a Tuner's thread but any help in advance from anyone else would be appreciated


1: Any support for Apple products? IE, am I able to upload your tune using my MacBook? Or am I stuck buying a cheap $400 PC laptop to upload your tune?
2: I live in San Diego, if I decide to run a E40/E85 tune and get stuck somewhere without that type of fuel, am I able to use my laptop to switch tunes? Also, will I need internet access to upload a tune if I already have it purchased. As in, if I purchase a 91 oct file and a E40/E85 file, will I need internet access to upload a previously purchased file? If I'm stuck in the middle of nowhere, I might not have access to the internet.

I feel like in this market, someone would address these types of issues? I don't mind purchasing a cheap laptop, even though it kind of stinks b/c that's an additional $300-$400 to run a tune, just because I use apple. But then again, I understand where you guys are coming from. If there isn't a lot of people using Apple stuff, there's no point dumping a lot of money in software design if no one uses it. Thanks again and looking forward to getting my SQ5 tuned in the near future.

epl is the slowest of the bunch go with IE if you want to flash from home if you have a dealer near by go with apr am running faster times with my stage 1 tune then guys with stage 2 epl tunes so that speaks for its self

[turbojayc]

I had Stage 3 Unitronic on my B8 SQ5 Loved it. Car flew!

[ILVTRANCE]

Just got the EPL ECU/TCU tune so far support has been stellar. You can also flash from home with it. @joe916 Does IE even have a TCU tune, or you have to go to another tuner for that? If that's the case I'm happy to get it all in one place and be a little slower.

https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...e-vs-IE-vs-EPL

[mowse]

epl is the slowest of the bunch go with IE if you want to flash from home if you have a dealer near by go with apr am running faster times with my stage 1 tune then guys with stage 2 epl tunes so that speaks for its self

I'd like to see proof of this. Also, what accompanying mods for each? Legitimately asking, not trying to talk trash.

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[joe916]

I'd like to see proof of this. Also, what accompanying mods for each? Legitimately asking, not trying to talk trash.

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what proof? you have to do your own research and look at the 1/4mile thread APR is first IE is second when it comes to 1/4 times and that has been proven with 1/4 time slips and dragy runs

[joe916]

Just got the EPL ECU/TCU tune so far support has been stellar. You can also flash from home with it. @joe916 Does IE even have a TCU tune, or you have to go to another tuner for that? If that's the case I'm happy to get it all in one place and be a little slower.

https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...e-vs-IE-vs-EPL

hp tuners custom tcu tune file from BG-SQ5

[mowse]

what proof? you have to do your own research and look at the 1/4mile thread APR is first IE is second when it comes to 1/4 times and that has been proven with 1/4 time slips and dragy runs

Just asked. Honestly hadn't looked at that thread in awhile. I'm looking to change mine myself, currently running the United Motorsports tune.

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[joe916]

Just asked. Honestly hadn't looked at that thread in awhile. I'm looking to change mine myself, currently running the United Motorsports tune.

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if you want flexibility go with IE if you have a APR near you then go APR if you want the fastest times you really cant go wrong with with both

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I have an IE supercharger pulley for sale if you’re interested also $170 shipped


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[joe916]

I have an IE supercharger pulley for sale if you’re interested also $170 shipped


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cts sells them new with a belt for $160

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cts sells them new with a belt for $160

A new belt isn’t required when changing supercharger pulley


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[joe916]

I have an IE supercharger pulley for sale if you’re interested also $170 shipped


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you have to post this on the classified thread

[SDV325]

I have used EPL since 2017 first on my S4, then the SQ5. Always fantastic results, smooth and effortless. On my '14 SQ i needed a bunch of warranty work done (timing chain tensioner and secondary air pump), flashed back to stock, the dealer never detect the ECU had been tuned. Effortless and well worth it.

Can always search for a windows tablet on a local classifieds site, lots can be had for $50 i bet. Load the software on and you are good to go. EPL also sells HP tablets preloaded with the flashing software for $160 I believe.

[Goldfinger978]

Awesome info guys! A lot to go through when I get home. Not worried about being the “fastest” SQ5 out there, more focused on being able to flash on the fly, so APR is out. Been hearing some great stuff about IE, leaning towards them at the moment.


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[Goldfinger978]

epl is the slowest of the bunch go with IE if you want to flash from home if you have a dealer near by go with apr am running faster times with my stage 1 tune then guys with stage 2 epl tunes so that speaks for its self

Faster times with APR or your IE tune?

[joe916]

Faster times with APR or your IE tune?

APR and IE guys are putting down the best numbers when it comes to 1/4 times

[Hopperstien]

Anyone with input on the 034 motorsport tuning??

[Goldfinger978]

Anyone with input on the 034 motorsport tuning??

I was looking at them as well. Some awesome numbers too. But I don’t think I ever found someone who has their tune to ask about.

[Tony@EPL]

APR and IE guys are putting down the best numbers when it comes to 1/4 times

Having a few heavily modded outliers isnt a measure of quailty of a tune... it measure of what 1 or 2 people have been able to do with a specific car/platform.

I believe we had the first 2 q5/sq5 in the 11's ... in 2015 and have had several other car post strong results since. Calling use the slowest of the bunch is just plain incorrect.

[joe916]

Having a few heavily modded outliers isnt a measure of quailty of a tune... it measure of what 1 or 2 people have been able to do with a specific car/platform.

I believe we had the first 2 q5/sq5 in the 11's ... in 2015 and have had several other car post strong results since. Calling use the slowest of the bunch is just plain incorrect.

judging by the 1/4 mile forum chart am only 4mph off from your maxed out dp set up on race fuel and am only stage 1 93 octane tune stock pulleys so the numbers speak for them self sorry but a lot of guys are switching over or selling epl tunes because of that

[Tony@EPL]

judging by the 1/4 mile forum chart am only 4mph off from your maxed out dp set up on race fuel and am only stage 1 93 octane tune stock pulleys so the numbers speak for them self sorry but a lot of guys are switching over or selling epl tunes because of that

Clients that are switching tunes need to contact us during the process so the eligible to sell the tune. Being the only tuner that allows this, I would imagine we do have customers deciding to try something new from time to time. We know exactly who/how many people have made a switch and the numbers are very low.... VERY LOW.

We have a very happy customer base, even before you purchased a tune from one of my competitors you have tried to cast a cloud over my companies name for no reason. Its clear you just dont like the brand.

Moving on.

[joe916]

I am not casting no clouds I'm just going by the quarter mile chart and comparing your quarter mile times and trap speeds to APR and IE and the difference is pretty huge even with your tcu tune

[RoofRails]

I would like to add that all the different tunes/tuners seem to have a little something that sets them apart from the other tuners. It's not that hard to find that one thing that finally makes up your mind. All the major tunes are good. There isn't a bad ECU tune out there for the 3.0T that I'm aware of. The major factor in all the new ground breaking 1/4 mile times is the HPT tune, just look at the list. Between the harder launch, quicker shifts and letting the 3.0T get well past 6300 rpms is the game changer. I believe in stock form the 3.0T is shifting into 5th at 110mph. That just happens to be before you are crossing the line on a respectable mid 12 second run. That shift will hold a STG 1 car with a stock TCU tune back from diving deeper into the 12s. I have also said more than once that if you are running a 60+ or 70 lb set of 22s you are swimming upstream trying to get a super fast 1/4 mile time.

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[joe916]

I would like to add that all the different tunes/tuners seem to have a little something that sets them apart from the other tuners. It's not that hard to find that one thing that finally makes up your mind. All the major tunes are good. There isn't a bad ECU tune out there for the 3.0T that I'm aware of. The major factor in all the new ground breaking 1/4 mile times is the HPT tune, just look at the list. Between the harder launch, quicker shifts and letting the 3.0T get well past 6300 rpms is the game changer. I believe in stock form the 3.0T is shifting into 5th at 110mph. That just happens to be before you are crossing the line on a respectable mid 12 second run. That shift will hold a STG 1 car with a stock TCU tune back from diving deeper into the 12s. I have also said more than once that if you are running a 60+ or 70 lb set of 22s you are swimming upstream trying to get a super fast 1/4 mile time.

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guys running epl with there tcu don't even come close to what you and i are running on our stage 1 tune so lets not cover things up and say it how it is

[RoofRails]

The point of my post was the TCU HPT tune has more to do with these break through 1/4 Mile times than the ECU tune. I don't see any EPL cars on the list with a HPT TCU tune. There are 19 cars under my APR STg1/HPT (BG Sq5) time, 11 of the 19 are some from of STG 2. 8 of them are running APR ECU software. None of the cars under me on the list are running a HPT tune on their TCU. Maybe that is just a giant coincidence but that sort of data is how I form my opinions.

guys running epl with there tcu don't even come close to what you and i are running on our stage 1 tune so lets not cover things up and say it how it is

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[TJay74]

Op I hate to tell you this, but while you can use a tablet to tune it yourself you will need an internet connection in order to be able to flash the tune. So you will either need to hotspot your cell phone or else be connected to a WiFi. I would be careful on public WiFi, I am not sure what issue could come up if you lose the data connection in the middle of a flash, I am not sure if it would brick the car if that happens during the flash.

[rusq5]

Anyone with input on the 034 motorsport tuning??

I was looking at them as well. Some awesome numbers too. But I don’t think I ever found someone who has their tune to ask about.

I'm running the 034 E40 ECU and TCU. I haven't run any 1/4s yet, but will once the track opens next season.

The car makes really good power. I made 450awhp/400awtq on 034's mustang with 285 R888s. I think I could hit 465-470 with less sticky tires. Driveability is great. Sport is ripping quick and the TCU is amazing. Nate has done a lot of work on this tune and it shows. Throttle feel is great, DD reliability is awesome, and the power is fantastically delivered.

I don't have the flash at home kit since, I live 5 miles away from the shop. I do know you need a windows pc though and I'm 99.99% sure you need an internet connection.

034 customer service is great too, they've been hiring more people to help with customer service on tuning and its very noticeable.

[Wannabeasq]

I made a huge mistake and purchased apr, stay away from them .. awful tuning company. epl is much better.. what I didn't know was that I cant go back to stock. after install.. disgusting.

[RoofRails]

Is that you [email protected] !

I made a huge mistake and purchased apr, stay away from them .. awful tuning company. epl is much better.. what I didn't know was that I cant go back to stock. after install.. disgusting.

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[ILVTRANCE]

Is that you [email protected] !

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based on his previous posts seems not likely.

[SDV325]

guys running epl with there tcu don't even come close to what you and i are running on our stage 1 tune so lets not cover things up and say it how it is

For me, the difference you are talking about is not real world applicable, sure if those number really matter to you a couple times a year on the strip or "Mexico", so be it. We have incredible fast vehicles, being a car length faster with a different tune, who cares? We're not 20 year olds, are we?

For me EPL helped me out trumendously, when my previous SQ was stolen (and cable) I was not able to flash off my tune. Chris (and assuming Tony) allowed me to transfer my tune to my new vehicle... Would every other company do that? I'm not so sure. They helped me out during an incredibly stressful experience.

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[joe916]

I made a huge mistake and purchased apr, stay away from them .. awful tuning company. epl is much better.. what I didn't know was that I cant go back to stock. after install.. disgusting.

nice try EPL HAHAHA

[Shane Horning]

For me, the difference you are talking about is not real world applicable, sure if those number really matter to you a couple times a year on the strip or "Mexico", so be it. We have incredible fast vehicles, being a car length faster with a different tune, who cares? We're not 20 year olds, are we?

For me EPL helped me out trumendously, when my previous SQ was stolen (and cable) I was not able to flash off my tune. Chris (and assuming Tony) allowed me to transfer my tune to my new vehicle... Would every other company do that? I'm not so sure. They helped me out during an incredibly stressful experience.

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I will definitely give a for epl's customer service. Definitely better than most any tuning company. It's just that their tunes aren't as aggressive as some others. Nothing wrong with that

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[joe916]

The point of my post was the TCU HPT tune has more to do with these break through 1/4 Mile times than the ECU tune. I don't see any EPL cars on the list with a HPT TCU tune. There are 19 cars under my APR STg1/HPT (BG Sq5) time, 11 of the 19 are some from of STG 2. 8 of them are running APR ECU software. None of the cars under me on the list are running a HPT tune on their TCU. Maybe that is just a giant coincidence but that sort of data is how I form my opinions.

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my whole point is they already have a tcu tune and they are still not getting the same results as we are

[SDV325]

I will definitely give a for epl's customer service. Definitely better than most any tuning company. It's just that their tunes aren't as aggressive as some others. Nothing wrong with that

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And I know Tony has taken a lot of heat for this, But choosing not to remove the speed limiter is the right and ethical one. We never have a reason legally to surpass the existing speed limiter. If you truly are going to the salt flats, fine but 99.9% of the time there is no reason reach those speeds.

And if you are a person that is choosing to do that on public roads ("Mexico", we all know the truth), well that shows everything about a person. Too many kids pull that stuff and end up hurting themselves or others.


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[zatta]

epl is the slowest of the bunch go with IE if you want to flash from home if you have a dealer near by go with apr am running faster times with my stage 1 tune then guys with stage 2 epl tunes so that speaks for its self

I’m assuming you’re referring to my quarter mile time with my DP setup... I think engine was blown during half the runs, and also coolant pump was not running. Once I get the newer engine put in I’ll try to get some proper dragy runs.


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[joe916]

I will definitely give a for epl's customer service. Definitely better than most any tuning company. It's just that their tunes aren't as aggressive as some others. Nothing wrong with that

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what tune you running?