Question on Xtrons android Unit.

[PopoySd]

Also one other issue... Is anyone else suffering with creating a WiFi hotspot from their iPhone to the unit? Mine is ridiculously temperamental.. anyone know a fix?

Thanks
Liam


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That seems to be an iPhone iOS thing...I have Android units on 4 of my cars...and 3/4 of those unit are always picky on when it connects to my iPhone’s hotspot. You have to keep trying to connect it...I had an Android phone prior to that and never had problems connecting to the hotspot. You can buy the CarPlay dongle/adapter and that might make everything easier for you.



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[oVeRdOsE]

yeah I have no issue on my android phone. I use tasker to start the hotspot automatically when it detects the car bluetooth. And shut down, turn wifi ON, when the xtrons is off.

I never get my phone out of my pocket.

[kp^]

Every time I shift into reverse, the music stops (sdcard) and goes to a video mode with blank screen. I do not have a backup cam... Can I disable that?

Anyone put a new OS on it yet?

Xtrons Model IB79AA4RP

[Matt Devo]

Every time I shift into reverse, the music stops (sdcard) and goes to a video mode with blank screen. I do not have a backup cam... Can I disable that?

Anyone put a new OS on it yet?

Xtrons Model IB79AA4RP

May vary slightly depending on software version, but should be:

Settings/Car/Extras/Reverse Volume: on

Settings/Car/Factory Settings (pass: m123456)/Other/Prohibit Reverse: off

Android ROM: Hal9k Mod v4

[kp^]

May vary slightly depending on software version, but should be:

Settings/Car/Extras/Reverse Volume: on

Settings/Car/Factory Settings (pass: m123456)/Other/Prohibit Reverse: off

Android ROM: Hal9k Mod v4

That worked, thank you!!

[phantommenance]

May vary slightly depending on software version, but should be:

Settings/Car/Extras/Reverse Volume: on

Settings/Car/Factory Settings (pass: m123456)/Other/Prohibit Reverse: off

Android ROM: Hal9k Mod v4

Thnx i needed that info. Been tryna figure it out

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[Kmease]

Where are y'all getting this AK/INIB/NRCBL harness?

[Matt Devo]

Where are y'all getting this AK/INIB/NRCBL harness?

XTRONS sells it, but don't waste your money it doesn't work. rhfosu and i both tested it, and minimal improvement to the background noise (ie, still far too much). The problem with these newer 8" XTRONS units can't be solved with line-level adapters like older models (without the quadlock connector on the unit itself) can

[A4b61.8t]

XTRONS sells it, but don't waste your money it doesn't work. rhfosu and i both tested it, and minimal improvement to the background noise (ie, still far too much). The problem with these newer 8" XTRONS units can't be solved with line-level adapters like older models (without the quadlock connector on the unit itself) can

Matt,

I’ve finally had a breakthrough with mine!

After trying what felt like everything... I decided to rip it all out and try again! I now have just taped all my USB’s, WiFi & gps etc all together. And then using the quadlock adaptor (hi-lo impedance converter) from xtrons.. turned pretty much all the way to the lowest point...

It’s pretty much perfect!! And the sound certainly exceeds the quality from the factory rns-e with Bose that I was using before!


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[Kmease]

Matt,

I’ve finally had a breakthrough with mine!

After trying what felt like everything... I decided to rip it all out and try again! I now have just taped all my USB’s, WiFi & gps etc all together. And then using the quadlock adaptor (hi-lo impedance converter) from xtrons.. turned pretty much all the way to the lowest point...

It’s pretty much perfect!! And the sound certainly exceeds the quality from the factory rns-e with Bose that I was using before!


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This gives me hope ☝️🙌

I'll try to get ahold of them for the harness.

[Kmease]

Matt,

I’ve finally had a breakthrough with mine!

After trying what felt like everything... I decided to rip it all out and try again! I now have just taped all my USB’s, WiFi & gps etc all together. And then using the quadlock adaptor (hi-lo impedance converter) from xtrons.. turned pretty much all the way to the lowest point...

It’s pretty much perfect!! And the sound certainly exceeds the quality from the factory rns-e with Bose that I was using before!


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Can you post a picture of the setup?

[phantommenance]

Matt,

I’ve finally had a breakthrough with mine!

After trying what felt like everything... I decided to rip it all out and try again! I now have just taped all my USB’s, WiFi & gps etc all together. And then using the quadlock adaptor (hi-lo impedance converter) from xtrons.. turned pretty much all the way to the lowest point...

It’s pretty much perfect!! And the sound certainly exceeds the quality from the factory rns-e with Bose that I was using before!


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Werd any photos or a step by step. I hate that stupid noise. About to put my rnse back in.

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[kp^]

@A4b61.8t

Any pics, or directions from you would be very helpful to the rest of us in the same boat.

I did one of those harnes's from xtrons (only took 3 weeks) but having a hard time finding space behind the head unit and how the wires are connected. Anything you provide would be appreciated!

[Kmease]

I can't seem to get ahold of them at all.
How were you able to get in contact with them?

@A4b61.8t

Any pics, or directions from you would be very helpful to the rest of us in the same boat.

I did one of those harnes's from xtrons (only took 3 weeks) but having a hard time finding space behind the head unit and how the wires are connected. Anything you provide would be appreciated!

[A4b61.8t]

Sorry for the late reply...

I must add that I have an S3 8P, but very similar setup as most of you guys!

I also have BOSE and had an RNS-E previously!

All I have done now is everything on the left hand side i.e gps wi-fi & USB’s is tape them all together, so that they are as far away and protected from both the power and speaker cables!

On the other side, I have added the XTRONS hi/lo impedance cable attached to the back of the unit... then connected to the factory quadlock.... but the important part is that on the XTRONS hi/lo converter that you start at minimum & just barely go above a quarter turn with a small electrical screwdriver!

My unit is the ICE/HU/IB89A3APL & the noise was horrific!! More alternator whine and clicking than humming, but as soon as I made these changes... Zero unwanted noises!! Also another thing I done was mount the Wi-fi aerial away from the power and speaker cables!

Good luck!!


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[A4b61.8t]

AK/INIB/NRCBL this is the converter I used and had great success with, currently it is not showing available on XTRONS UK, but maybe you can find it on eBay or email XTRONS.com??




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[A4b61.8t]

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[kp^]

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THANK YOU!

I can't seem to get ahold of them at all.
How were you able to get in contact with them?

I ordered via amazon. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B083DNCQT1/

Took about 3 weeks...

None of the directions I have found make sense, or give a clear picture on how to properly connect the wires.

http://bbs.xtrons.com/viewtopic.php?...&f=11&t=177904

One converter" is labeled L, the other R. Cables labeled, FL(white), RR(red), FR(red), and RL(white) -- Confused??

Coming from Symphony 2 with Bose..

*EDIT, I tried again.. I cant install the HU with the XTRONS ISO Harness installed. There is no room...

[Matt Devo]

None of the directions I have found make sense, or give a clear picture on how to properly connect the wires.

http://bbs.xtrons.com/viewtopic.php?...&f=11&t=177904

One converter" is labeled L, the other R. Cables labeled, FL(white), RR(red), FR(red), and RL(white) -- Confused??

they mislabeled F/R as L/R. Front converter has white/grey wires feeding it, rear has purple/green.

[kp^]

they mislabeled F/R as L/R. Front converter has white/grey wires feeding it, rear has purple/green.

Thank you!! That would be great if they put that info on their website. haha.

[whoa]

XTRONS sells it, but don't waste your money it doesn't work. rhfosu and i both tested it, and minimal improvement to the background noise (ie, still far too much). The problem with these newer 8" XTRONS units can't be solved with line-level adapters like older models (without the quadlock connector on the unit itself) can

Can you expand on this a little? I just bought one of these Xtrons units after reading some of what you said in the other 80 page thread. The CarExc unit was over 400 dollars, so I went with the cheaper solution. I'm currently looking for a quadlock harness extension to wire in some line level converters. It sounds like you're saying the quadlock connector on the Xtrons is what is causing the noise.

I haven't done anything with mine yet except hook it up to the factory harness, and I have noise even with the car off. With the unit on mute, I hear buzzing noise as well. Volume seems wonky too, at the lowest volume level (volume set at 1), audio seems to be much louder than I'd expect.

[Matt Devo]

Can you expand on this a little? I just bought one of these Xtrons units after reading some of what you said in the other 80 page thread. The CarExc unit was over 400 dollars, so I went with the cheaper solution. I'm currently looking for a quadlock harness extension to wire in some line level converters. It sounds like you're saying the quadlock connector on the Xtrons is what is causing the noise.

I haven't done anything with mine yet except hook it up to the factory harness, and I have noise even with the car off. With the unit on mute, I hear buzzing noise as well. Volume seems wonky too, at the lowest volume level (volume set at 1), audio seems to be much louder than I'd expect.

I'm saying that a quadlock extension with line-level converters, whether DIY or the one XTRONS sells, will reduce, but not come close to eliminating, the background noise from these units. I returned mine after extensive attempts to mitigate the issue. The Carexc models are more expensive, but have a newer/faster SoC and no noise when LOC used.

[whoa]

I'm saying that a quadlock extension with line-level converters, whether DIY or the one XTRONS sells, will reduce, but not come close to eliminating, the background noise from these units. I returned mine after extensive attempts to mitigate the issue. The Carexc models are more expensive, but have a newer/faster SoC and no noise when LOC used.

Thanks. I'm going to try it out anyway since I've already ordered the quadlock extension. I don't have high hopes that anything I can do will eliminate the noise just judging on the actual amount I hear with the unit at 0 volume.

[phantommenance]

I just got 2 external amps and a dsp problem solved.

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[rhfosu]

I just got 2 external amps and a dsp problem solved.

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I have an external amp with a DSP and it only amplified the the noises.

[phantommenance]

I have an external amp with a DSP and it only amplified the the noises.

I ran all my components directly into the amp

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[Kmease]

I ordered the harness and finally got it in. The buzzing is still there but completely unnoticeable. Compared to what it was before its night and day!

[Rocky182]

Since it's been a year and a half and a lot has changed, what units do people like now? It looks like the Carexc 8" unit with the PX6 chip is no longer on the market, so for the 8" screens, the only real options are two Xtrons units:
https://www.amazon.com/XTRONS-Naviga.../dp/B0824XQCHJ
https://www.amazon.com/XTRONS-Androi...7822482&sr=8-4
Alternate link to Xtron site for the non-PX5 unit
One has a PX5 and does not include Carplay ($319, and I don't think they make it anymore but just have some left in inventory) and the other has a Cortex-A53 (which might actually be the core, and maybe it has the Autochips 825X Pro, I'm not good with this stuff) and comes with CarPlay ($334).
Additionally, the Amazon link for the MA80A4AL/Cortex does not mention Autochips and also has the older "back button" versus the nav button, so not sure if that unit is outdated.


How did the 9" "no-bezel" PX6 units hold up for people that purchased those? I personally like the look of the 8" with the bezel better, but concerned if no one has tried out this new Autochips 825X unit - has anyone?. And what brands do people like now for the 9" units?

[yeedle]

I just ordered the MA80A4AL with Carplay. This appears to be a newer unit than what was reviewed on here over the last couple of years. Does anyone know if the buzzing issue has been resolved with this updated unit?

[Rocky182]

I also ended up ordering it, won't get around to installing it for a bit but curious to see if it's been fixed.

[Rocky182]

I just ordered the MA80A4AL with Carplay. This appears to be a newer unit than what was reviewed on here over the last couple of years. Does anyone know if the buzzing issue has been resolved with this updated unit?

I installed it - the buzzing issue is not fixed. Need the hi/lo converters.

[Cutprods]

I installed it - the buzzing issue is not fixed. Need the hi/lo converters.

Hi, first post here, so Merry Xmas to you all. I have had an Xtrons PX5 Oreo 8 retro (RNS-E lookalike) unit of 4GB/64GB variety, in my 2006 A4 B7 2.0 TDi Avant S-line non-Bose car, for around 3 years now and from day one there has never been any buzzing or interference, with the sound and amplification being clear and at least as good if not better than the Symphony II it replaced. I ran it for the first year with apps from the HU itself and with a bit of programming from a couple of free apps got both steering wheel canbus and Google Assistant/Phone mic buttons to work flawlessly - but it was a pain to update apps in car all the time. Then I bought Head Unit Reloaded for £5 and started using AA wired. Then I upgraded my phone and got wireless to work, again flawlessly (The developer is very helpful). I have both dashcam and reversing cam (number plate + parking sensors) accessories from Xtrons also working well. In fact it's a dilema because no aftermarket head units work as well in the later model cars I am looking to replace my now fine but 15 1/2 yr old car with and wireless AA is something I couldn't live without now - it being that good.

In those 3 years I have not had any problems with the Xtrons itself - the Dab dongle is rubbish and I have disconnected it after the second failed again; the radio is rubbish and a massive step backwards since there is no adaptor, despite all the ICE manufacturers claiming to offer one, that will properly replace the dual ariel connection of early B7s - so I use AA streaming radio apps now - the 1st rear number plate cam/sensors failed because of a cheap rca cable, the 2nd one seems OK at the moment. The quality of the plastic retro fascia is not up to the Audi plastic but I put a chrome strip on the bottom edge, a la RNS-E, which makes it look more oem and no one, who doesn't know, thinks it's not original - but it doesn't fit 100% and if you manage to engage all 4 cheap connectors, you will have a stuck hazard warning switch and cupholder and most likely have the devil of time getting the unit out again, as is the case for me now since an audio electrician replaced the number plate cam - best just to engage the top two and push it down a little. The PX5/6 difference is immaterial if you are using it for Android Auto/Carplay - since the requirement of just being a projection screen/BT + wifi Audio amplifier requires little cpu/ram overhead, although 4GBs is definitely better than 2.

Having been an A/V technician in the TV industry for many years, with recording and mixing and installation of sound/video systems I am almost sure hi/lo convertors will not eliminate hum or interference, only amplify it or otherwise - I believe they are only required too for the Bose oem cars - I never needed them on my non-Bose and all oem speakers work. If there is whine, say from the alternator then some form of suppressor is required, as in the old days. But as I say I have not had this issue since day 1 on my more or less bog standard Avant S-line, with onlythe multi-funtion steering wheel and BT phone installation from new, as extras.

Sorry for the long first post.

[Audi A4 & Q5]

yes, it's a plug & play unit. As far as the screen going black on reverse its because the unit is requiring a rearview camera. So i advice you to buy & install one, so when you do reverse you can see your rearview.