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    DIY $45 C7 A6 Intake (And DIY Heatshield for $18))

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    Hey whats going on everyone? So being a big DIYer and thinking paying $200-250 essentially just for a piece of pipe and a filter was outrageous i began looking around and generic 3" intake pipes and stumbled across quiet the find on ebay that looked awfully close to the C7A6 intake. I'll post links to everything you need at the bottom!

    Heres a comparison:


    C7 A6 Brand Name $250 intake:
    c7a6intake$250


    Ebay intake:
    s-l1600


    Looks Pretty close huh? The biggest notable difference is the port for the re-circulation valve being on the front of the pipe rather than the back. I was slightly concerned this would interfere with installation due to it hitting the valve cover but the listing said they accepted returns so i figured, at absolute worst i'm only out $35. It also didnt list the length of the pipe so i was hoping it was long enough. A bit of a gamble but it would be worth it especially if it did fit. So i ordered it. I also ordered a straight 3" silicone coupler on ebay for $5 because i realized the one that came with the kit tapered down to a smaller size and our throttle body is 3" diameter. Not bad, still only $40 out of pocket.

    Upon opening the box i was surprised to see the intake pipe was actually reasonably long and had a very good chance of clearing the intake manifold. After taking everything apart and lining up the new intake i realized the re-circulation hose was not long enough to reach the front. I had some vacuum connectors and used a straight vacuum fitting, cut the hose that came with the intake kit down to size and used it to extend around to the front of the pipe. See photo below of where the fitting is:

    Intake3


    Hardly noticeable. Now, you could use small hose clamps or zip ties if you were worried about them coming off, but i wasnt....so i just pushed them together. The oem hose was just pushed onto the port with no clamp so i figured it would be fine.

    I was pretty excited about how well everything was fitting up to this point. But wait, you say. Dont you need a breather filter for the breather hose if you remove the OEM air filter? Youre god damn right you do! Which is why I dropped a few F-bombs on myself at this point for forgetting. So off to the parts store i went again. I paid the here and now tax (im here and i need it now) and paid $12 for the dumb breather filter but you benefit from my mistake by knowing to order ahead of time for cheaper! Theyre like $5 online. Now with my breath filter installed I re-installed my intake.

    I initially installed the intake fitted inside of the OEM airbox to use it as sort of a heat shield. But after a day i decided to take the airbox out completely. My main goal here was sound from the supercharger and there was a little bit more, but really not terribly noticeable with the airbox in place. MUCH louder without the airbox but still subtle when not on it/in sport mode. Im guessing if youre tuned it would probably be even louder. I am eventually going to build an aluminum head shield to help with heat soak but for now, enjoy your $45 intake system(that i paid $52 for)! The brand name intakes dont look like they come with a heatshield anyway. **Note: When this filter starts getting dirty (5-10k miles) I do plan on buying either a K&N or AEM dryflow which will bring the cost closer to $90-100. but thats still only half of what the cheapest brand name intake costs(that ive seen at least).

    I havnt taken videos yet, but heres some photos of the final product:

    Intake2

    Intake1


    And Links as promised:

    Generic Acura Integra 3" Intake kit ($35):
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Performance...72.m2749.l2649

    3" Silicone Coupler ($5):
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/3-inch-76mm...sAAOSw74FXPCT8

    Breather Filter($5):
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/9MM-OIL-CAT...oAAOSwjR5c-bs1




    HEATSHIELD DIY:


    Ok so as i mentioned at the end of my original post, i planned on also building a heat shield for my intake kit. Well today was that day.

    Supplies:

    18x24" 22gauge aluminum sheet from Home Depot ($9.50)
    5feet of rubber edge finisher from Amazon ($5)
    Assorted screws/nuts/washers from Home Depot ($3)
    Piece of scrap cardboard at least 18x18

    Tools:

    Tin Snips (mine were rusted so i spent $12 on a new pair at home depot)
    Scissors (to cut the cardboard template)
    Permanent marker
    Drill to drill mounting holes

    I started my morning first doing removing the intake and mocking up a cardboard template of what my heat sheild would be shaped like. Being that its my only car, I did not want to drive the car because then it would be too hot to work on. So after about 15 minutes of trial and error i finally got a cardboard mock up of the heatshield. Heres what it looked like:




    Awesome! Now since i didnt plan on doing this today, off to home depot i go to get supplies. Luckily its a block away so i didnt have to wait too long for the engine to cool to keep working. Once i got the supplies from home depot i went home and traced the cardboard mock up onto the aluminum sheet and began cutting it out. I was actually surprised how easily the tin snips cut through the aluminum. About 5-10 mins and i had my aluminum stamp ready to go.

    Now my design you might have noticed had a right angle "footing" to it. I wasnt quite sure how i was going to evenly bend the template. After some thought, and light pressure test runs, i decided to mark a line where i need to bend it and try to bend it around the right angle of my coffee table top.This actually worked like a charm. I spent some time test fitting it and trimming it in the places needed, measuring mounting points and drilling holes...Heres a photo for reference of where it was at before the test fitting:




    But what is the purpose of bending it like that?? I knew you'd ask. If you look around the area where the airbox once lived...there is really no good mounting points. So, I'm using the factory mount bushings/clips along with another bracket made from the straight bracket that came with our intake kit!

    Remember that the rubber grommets might get stuck on the bottom of your airbox legs and you just need to pop them off. Youll also need to unclip the plastic holders from the holes in the frame so you can fit them back together with the bushings. Once the bushings are in the clips, and youve made sure the bolts you got fit in the bushings, you can reinstall the clips/bushings in the car. Heres a photo test fitting the mounting bushings:




    Perfect! So the bottom of the heat shield is ready to be mounted. I took the rubber edge trim i ordered and installed it around the edges of the heat shield to help give it a more finished look. I paid attention to cutting the heat shield to where it fits snug up to the air inlet from the front bumper so it partially rests on that however towards the firewall of the vehicle, there is a torx screw i used to mount another bracket to give the upper section some rigidity. As i mentioned before, this bracket was the long straight bracket that came with the intake kit. I bent it by hand to shape around the strut tower area and secured it the top of the heat shield. Here is a photo with the hoses held out of the way:



    and that is all she wrote! If you dont need tin snips, youd have yourself a $63 Intake and heat shield. Im at about $83 just because i forgot a breather filter and needed tin snips.

    Heres a couple finished photos:






    Hope this helps you!
    Last edited by doublezero30; 07-28-2019 at 05:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doublezero30 View Post
    Hey whats going on everyone? So being a big DIYer and thinking paying $200-250 essentially just for a piece of pipe and a filter was outrageous i began looking around and generic 3" intake pipes and stumbled across quiet the find on ebay that looked awfully close to the C7A6 intake. I'll post links to everything you need at the bottom!

    Heres a comparison:


    C7 A6 Brand Name $250 intake:
    c7a6intake$250


    Ebay intake:
    s-l1600


    Looks Pretty close huh? The biggest notable difference is the port for the re-circulation valve being on the front of the pipe rather than the back. I was slightly concerned this would interfere with installation due to it hitting the valve cover but the listing said they accepted returns so i figured, at absolute worst i'm only out $35. It also didnt list the length of the pipe so i was hoping it was long enough. A bit of a gamble but it would be worth it especially if it did fit. So i ordered it. I also ordered a straight 3" silicone coupler on ebay for $5 because i realized the one that came with the kit tapered down to a smaller size and our throttle body is 3" diameter. Not bad, still only $40 out of pocket.

    Upon opening the box i was surprised to see the intake pipe was actually reasonably long and had a very good chance of clearing the intake manifold. After taking everything apart and lining up the new intake i realized the re-circulation hose was not long enough to reach the front. I had some vacuum connectors and used a straight vacuum fitting, cut the hose that came with the intake kit down to size and used it to extend around to the front of the pipe. See photo below of where the fitting is:

    Intake3


    Hardly noticeable. Now, you could use small hose clamps or zip ties if you were worried about them coming off, but i wasnt....so i just pushed them together. The oem hose was just pushed onto the port with no clamp so i figured it would be fine.

    I was pretty excited about how well everything was fitting up to this point. But wait, you say. Dont you need a breather filter for the breather hose if you remove the OEM air filter? Youre god damn right you do! Which is why I dropped a few F-bombs on myself at this point for forgetting. So off to the parts store i went again. I paid the here and now tax (im here and i need it now) and paid $12 for the dumb breather filter but you benefit from my mistake by knowing to order ahead of time for cheaper! Theyre like $5 online. Now with my breath filter installed I re-installed my intake.

    I initially installed the intake fitted inside of the OEM airbox to use it as sort of a heat shield. But after a day i decided to take the airbox out completely. My main goal here was sound from the supercharger and there was a little bit more, but really not terribly noticeable with the airbox in place. MUCH louder without the airbox but still subtle when not on it/in sport mode. Im guessing if youre tuned it would probably be even louder. I am eventually going to build an aluminum head shield to help with heat soak but for now, enjoy your $45 intake system(that i paid $52 for)! The brand name intakes dont look like they come with a heatshield anyway. **Note: When this filter starts getting dirty (5-10k miles) I do plan on buying either a K&N or AEM dryflow which will bring the cost closer to $90-100. but thats still only half of what the cheapest brand name intake costs(that ive seen at least).

    I havnt taken videos yet, but heres some photos of the final product:

    Intake2


    Intake2


    And Links as promised:

    Generic Acura Integra 3" Intake kit ($35):
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Performance...72.m2749.l2649

    3" Silicone Coupler ($5):
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/3-inch-76mm...sAAOSw74FXPCT8

    Breather Filter($5):
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/9MM-OIL-CAT...oAAOSwjR5c-bs1
    Wow! Great find! Looks like it should work great

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    oh wow... great job!

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    Thanks! i just realized i linked the same picture twice at the end so i fixed it!

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    With this design unfortunately you have no benefit. more induction noise, but at the cost of having a hot air intake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p3u View Post
    With this design unfortunately you have no benefit. more induction noise, but at the cost of having a hot air intake.
    What intake are you running? I'm running the stock airbox - is that a restriction?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shane Horning View Post
    What intake are you running? I'm running the stock airbox - is that a restriction?
    I really don't think it's much of a restriction (maybe 5hp at our levels???), but I use the RS7 box. Its oem, still draws cold air and has better flow as it's designed for a much higher horsepower car than ours were stock.


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    Quote Originally Posted by p3u View Post
    With this design unfortunately you have no benefit. more induction noise, but at the cost of having a hot air intake.
    intakes generally dont have much benefit regardless. My car will always be a daily driver so this wasnt much concern to me anyway for now. I plan on building a heatshield though. All it takes is a sheet of aluminum and a dremel for the most part. And like i had mentioned, the brand name intakes ive seen that you will spend $200-250 on also dont come with a heatshield. Systems with heat sheilds are available but cost $300+ which is crazy to me. My build will end up being $100ish including getting an upgraded air filter and building the heatshield (Aem dryflow filters are available for $30 on amazon and about $25-30 for an aluminum sheet and assorted hardware/trim for heatshield).
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    How's the difference in sound?

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    Quote Originally Posted by coop3422 View Post
    How's the difference in sound?
    Pretty good...definitely a lot louder than the stock airbox. Im on stock tune but it sounds good. Especially in sport mode. A tune will probably make it really come alive given the extra boost . Im going to try to get some video soon.

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    Heatshield DIY added to main post!

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    Quick video for sound reference. In sport mode, windows up.

    https://flic.kr/p/2gKguYg

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    Good job with the DIY and some cars do benefit from better intakes but the audi stock system is well designed and it literally takes cold air from outside and keeps it contained for consumption.
    You opened the system up and introduced hot under hood air, no matter what heat shield you make for it.
    Definitely will sound louder but by no means it's a cold air intake system.

    Give you A for effort and trying thibgs out tho.

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    My Injen intake has been more of a pain than anything. When using the mounting points it forces the intake away from the throttle body. I have had the intake come loose twice now. When it does, it starts sucking in hot engine bay air and there is a huge decrease in power. I just spent the last hour pulling it out, attempting to get it to fit properly and finally gave up on the mounting point.

    Just something to consider. It may sound nice, but I really cant say there is any performance gain over stock. I also have to check mine periodically to ensure it is seated correctly. Running without the stock airbox will most likely induce heat soak, which I have experienced so my air box is back in. I am ready to go back to stock or go all in with APR Ultracharger. These cheap intakes are not worth the headache.

    No offense to the original poster, but wanted to share my experience thus far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozer View Post
    Good job with the DIY and some cars do benefit from better intakes but the audi stock system is well designed and it literally takes cold air from outside and keeps it contained for consumption.
    You opened the system up and introduced hot under hood air, no matter what heat shield you make for it.
    Definitely will sound louder but by no means it's a cold air intake system.

    Give you A for effort and trying thibgs out tho.

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    Not sure youve ever seen an aftermarket intake system for these cars...but its exactly what i did, but mine was a lot cheaper. As i stated, intakes dont make any difference. Maybe 5hp if that.



    Quote Originally Posted by gkott78 View Post
    My Injen intake has been more of a pain than anything. When using the mounting points it forces the intake away from the throttle body. I have had the intake come loose twice now. When it does, it starts sucking in hot engine bay air and there is a huge decrease in power. I just spent the last hour pulling it out, attempting to get it to fit properly and finally gave up on the mounting point.

    Just something to consider. It may sound nice, but I really cant say there is any performance gain over stock. I also have to check mine periodically to ensure it is seated correctly. Running without the stock airbox will most likely induce heat soak, which I have experienced so my air box is back in. I am ready to go back to stock or go all in with APR Ultracharger. These cheap intakes are not worth the headache.

    No offense to the original poster, but wanted to share my experience thus far.
    Well, glad i didnt buy the injen and built the same thing for nearly $200 cheaper WITH a headshield :) . I havnt noticed any performance difference. probably because every day here induces heat soak no matter what intake you run. lol

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    have you run tests to confirm or deny your theory?

    dragy works to give baseline of before or after. otherwise we can all guess (and since you made it, the inclination is to assume it works).
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    Quote Originally Posted by flyfishing View Post
    have you run tests to confirm or deny your theory?

    dragy works to give baseline of before or after. otherwise we can all guess (and since you made it, the inclination is to assume it works).
    you must be an engineer

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    Nice intake, haters gonna hate. Your running stock who cares about number's or whatever, let that supercharger scream.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeRico View Post
    Nice intake, haters gonna hate. Your running stock who cares about number's or whatever, let that supercharger scream.
    thank you. someone that understands (or actually decided to read).

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    DIY $45 C7 A6 Intake

    Quote Originally Posted by doublezero30 View Post
    you must be an engineer
    No a dentist that likes sound reason as to why something is done or completed. I am trained for facts and results.


    But then again, I’m not saying your thread isn’t cool and a good option. All I’m saying is there isn’t data to support or deny that this adds or reduces power.

    It’s a fun thing to do and if someone did this diy, I’d commend them for the work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doublezero30 View Post
    Not sure youve ever seen an aftermarket intake system for these cars...but its exactly what i did, but mine was a lot cheaper. As i stated, intakes dont make any difference. Maybe 5hp if that.





    Well, glad i didnt buy the injen and built the same thing for nearly $200 cheaper WITH a headshield :) . I havnt noticed any performance difference. probably because every day here induces heat soak no matter what intake you run. lol
    Agreed. Well done on the intake and I wish I would have looked a bit more before jumping on the Injen.
    Let us know how it works out in the long run and how the butt dyno reacts.

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    I wouldn't be surprised if this intake made a few ponies even tho it's pulling in some hot air.. It's not all hot air, there is still some cold air coming in from the front of the car being pushed into the OEM scoop in front of the filter..

    Also, from previous cars I've owned, I've learned that on forced induction cars, cold air versus hot air coming from the intake doesn't mean too much, especially if you have some good cooling in place. On naturally aspirated cars, I've found it make a substantial difference.. What's more important for forced induction cars is the amount of air able to be ingested and the velocity of such air.. more air is more power..

    I guess all I'm trying to say is that it's not guaranteed that the "hot air" intake is a bad idea, and for the money put into it, it's a great project..

    To the OP, why not do some logs for the fun of it, if your intake makes power, maybe you can market it for sale, haha!
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    I just modified the OEM setup and replaced the inlet pipe, like what you did and well done, here is mine:

    2019-05-09 16.05.46.jpg

    I bought a used Injen intake off marketplace but didn't want an open design so I modded the intake pipe angle to fit the OEM box and added K&N filter.
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    I pulled the stock box out today to do plugs... and it looks like we have a shit ton of room to run some pipe from the fog light area? Could even run another line into the stock air box? Anyone tried that yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tuscani66 View Post
    I just modified the OEM setup and replaced the inlet pipe, like what you did and well done, here is mine:

    2019-05-09 16.05.46.jpg

    I bought a used Injen intake off marketplace but didn't want an open design so I modded the intake pipe angle to fit the OEM box and added K&N filter.
    I have an Injen, and have never experienced any issues with the mounting and fit. I installed it once and it hasn't budged. However i'm intrigued by your use of the stock round airbox cover that seals the opening between tube and air filter. I couldn't use it with the Injen filter and that opening allows hot air to enter i presume. What did you do to be able to fit that twist cover on?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tuscani66 View Post
    I just modified the OEM setup and replaced the inlet pipe, like what you did and well done, here is mine:

    2019-05-09 16.05.46.jpg

    I bought a used Injen intake off marketplace but didn't want an open design so I modded the intake pipe angle to fit the OEM box and added K&N filter.
    Awesome job! I debated doing this but decided not to because i didnt want to modify my stock box incase i decided to go back

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    Quote Originally Posted by 07S6 View Post
    I have an Injen, and have never experienced any issues with the mounting and fit. I installed it once and it hasn't budged. However i'm intrigued by your use of the stock round airbox cover that seals the opening between tube and air filter. I couldn't use it with the Injen filter and that opening allows hot air to enter i presume. What did you do to be able to fit that twist cover on?
    As far as allowing hot air in, its not different than OEM RS7 or the AEM Carbon Intake, except that I still channel 'cooler' air during speeds since the front intake dam is still connected and the lower tunnel is also connected. I did the cut out for looks and to hear the intake sound a bit more.

    The Injen pipe required cutting and shaping, rather than using a series of couplers and nylon tube I just cut the Injen pipe accordingly; to fit the Injen to the stock twist adapter was a nylon coupler.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doublezero30 View Post
    Awesome job! I debated doing this but decided not to because i didnt want to modify my stock box incase i decided to go back
    I like it, if you do it, you will probably will as well; the only thing is when I clean the engine from time to time I have to clean around the opening as the 'glue sealant' from the edge guard seeps out and looks like wet spots... so I'll probably think of something else more permanent to cover up the cut out. The metal screening I got from local hardware store, its galvanized steel that I painted high heat gloss black.

    I'm done hijacking the thread... doublezero, let us know what you decide!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by p3u View Post
    I really don't think it's much of a restriction (maybe 5hp at our levels???), but I use the RS7 box. Its oem, still draws cold air and has better flow as it's designed for a much higher horsepower car than ours were stock.

    Nice setup! What year RS& box is that and where so you get it? Also, what intake piping is that and where did you get it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KA045GLI View Post
    Nice setup! What year RS& box is that and where so you get it? Also, what intake piping is that and where did you get it?
    AnyC7 RS box will work

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    Great job on that heat shield!

    I've got an Ingen with stock box and haven't had any issues either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 15 Phantom S6 View Post
    I wouldn't be surprised if this intake made a few ponies even tho it's pulling in some hot air.. It's not all hot air, there is still some cold air coming in from the front of the car being pushed into the OEM scoop in front of the filter..

    Also, from previous cars I've owned, I've learned that on forced induction cars, cold air versus hot air coming from the intake doesn't mean too much, especially if you have some good cooling in place. On naturally aspirated cars, I've found it make a substantial difference.. What's more important for forced induction cars is the amount of air able to be ingested and the velocity of such air.. more air is more power..

    I guess all I'm trying to say is that it's not guaranteed that the "hot air" intake is a bad idea, and for the money put into it, it's a great project..

    To the OP, why not do some logs for the fun of it, if your intake makes power, maybe you can market it for sale, haha!
    Not trying to revive a potentially dead thread, but I’ve also heard the same. Lower air temp is a big deal for making power for cars with a carb, but if it’s fuel injected, it’s not as much of a factor. Potentially might still lose a bit from higher IATs, but I would think the increased volume would more than make up for it.
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    what are you guys using on the k and N filter to wash it with ? I heard using their kit cloggs up the MAF sensor think the best tune would be ie as you can do it at home and it's bulletproof they came out with tcu tune FInally.

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    has anybody done dyno oem intake vs any intake on this thread? just to see hp and tq gain i know intakes are mainly noise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuickTypeR View Post
    what are you guys using on the k and N filter to wash it with ? I heard using their kit cloggs up the MAF sensor think the best tune would be ie as you can do it at home and it's bulletproof they came out with tcu tune FInally.

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    has anybody done dyno oem intake vs any intake on this thread? just to see hp and tq gain i know intakes are mainly noise.
    3.0 tfsi cars dont have MAF sensor :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuickTypeR View Post
    what are you guys using on the k and N filter to wash it with ? I heard using their kit cloggs up the MAF sensor think the best tune would be ie as you can do it at home and it's bulletproof they came out with tcu tune FInally.

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    has anybody done dyno oem intake vs any intake on this thread? just to see hp and tq gain i know intakes are mainly noise.
    Injen claims +6 to both whp and torque on dyno but that includes their pipe.
    https://injen.com/pdf/184651
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    Any thoughts on something like this?

    Seems more modular as the kit in the one OP has seems a tad too short.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phenotis View Post
    Not trying to revive a potentially dead thread, but I’ve also heard the same. Lower air temp is a big deal for making power for cars with a carb, but if it’s fuel injected, it’s not as much of a factor. Potentially might still lose a bit from higher IATs, but I would think the increased volume would more than make up for it.
    There's probably too much to cover here, and the data out there isn't particularly specific, but what you're talking about is the mass of air that makes it to the throttle body benefiting more either from being cooler or from being higher pressure (not higher volume- from the throttle body on, the system is the same volume regardless of intake setup). Back of the napkin math with the ideal gas law and static pressures for air filters from a Project Farm video (if you've got a better data source, by all means share it)- comparing a K&N filter with a Wix filter (most restrictive in the comparison), at sea level, and a 25℉ delta (either 75/100º or 90/115º), the K&N "hot air" setup would deliver about 4% less air mass than a more restrictive but colder setup.

    In the real world, the stock airbox benefits from the snorkel/duct pressurizing the incoming air a bit, which means that even if the stock filter has a greater pressure drop than a K&N, if that drop is being subtracted from air pressure above what a K&N/open intake gets, the stock intake as a system is getting you both more air pressure and lower temps. Almost like it was designed to do that As others have said on this subject over the years, understandable to want to hear the supercharger more and tinker with the car, but there's no argument to be made that an open intake makes more power on a stock (or probably even stage 1) 3.0T.

    Quote Originally Posted by Phenotis View Post
    Injen claims +6 to both whp and torque on dyno but that includes their pipe.
    https://injen.com/pdf/184651
    I'm not sure what dyno or car Injen used that put down 153-155hp, but stock 3.0Ts seem to be around 300hp, so that 6hp is...a 2% increase, probably less than half the margin of error at best.
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    Since most cheaper intakes are a piece of plastic and an air filter, I don't think one really outperforms the other because the shape and size is so close. I find this video a compelling reason to consider one:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGqk...el=VancityAudi

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    Quote Originally Posted by bahula03 View Post
    In the real world, the stock airbox benefits from the snorkel/duct pressurizing the incoming air a bit, which means that even if the stock filter has a greater pressure drop than a K&N, if that drop is being subtracted from air pressure above what a K&N/open intake gets, the stock intake as a system is getting you both more air pressure and lower temps. Almost like it was designed to do that .
    Just want to be sure, when you refer to "K&N", you are referring to a K&N open intake, not an aftermarket K&N filter that goes inside the stock airbox to replace the stock filter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alabama View Post
    Just want to be sure, when you refer to "K&N", you are referring to a K&N open intake, not an aftermarket K&N filter that goes inside the stock airbox to replace the stock filter.
    That is correct, K&N = filter on a stick setup, like the subject of this thread, sorry I didn't use consistent language.

    Quote Originally Posted by WatchMeSpend View Post
    Since most cheaper intakes are a piece of plastic and an air filter, I don't think one really outperforms the other because the shape and size is so close. I find this video a compelling reason to consider one:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGqk...el=VancityAudi
    Two things maybe worth considering- the IE intake in that video uses a heat shield that kind of crudely replicates the stock airbox. As Alabama's post hints at, and the logical connect-the-dots from my post, a comprehensive heat shield or airbox with an air filter that has the lowest static pressure (not opening the can of worms of how well K&N actually filters out dust ) is going to provide the best performance/greatest air mass. The other thing is that that video is uh, pretty far from convincing process-wise? The car belongs to someone who owns a shop that sells IE products, there's no correction method for human or environmental factors, 2 or 3 runs isn't exactly enough to get meaningful data, and that's all on stage 1 car w/trans tune revving out to ~7200rpm, which would show more gains from a "better" intake setup than either a stock car or stage 1 car that stops at 6400rpm. Bottom line, they want people to only see the biggest possible difference, but look at the smallest difference and the IE intake made the car 0.079 seconds and 1.19 mph faster ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    Referencing the wisdom of p3u earlier in this thread and long ago, the stock intake and filter aren't holding much back and even the "best" aftermarket intakes aren't much better in objective terms until you're moving stage 2 or more air through the engine.
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