034Motorsport B8-8.5 Parts, Tuning, and Upcoming Product Thread!

[Nsatisfied]

Looking to stir up some discussion regarding 034's recent live q&a mentioning a new hardware upgrade yielding 30whp. Something in the fluid dynamics realm perhaps?

[RoofRails]

Looking to stir up some discussion regarding 034's recent live q&a mentioning a new hardware upgrade yielding 30whp. Something in the fluid dynamics realm perhaps?

I'm very curious as well and 100% willing to speculate... I think it's a set of cams and the thought of adding 30whp and a little bit of a lumpy idle makes me fully primed to make another irresponsible financial decision.

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[Sendit_S4]

I'm very curious as well and 100% willing to speculate... I think it's a set of cams and the thought of adding 30whp and a little bit of a lumpy idle makes me fully primed to make another irresponsible financial decision.

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I'm all on board for this too!

[034Motorsport]

Guess we'll have to wait and see, won't we now!

-Sean@034

[RoofRails]

Guess we'll have to wait and see, won't we now!

-Sean@034

I'm pretty sure we have it nailed down on the B8 S4 network page... LOL !

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[wootwoot]

I'm pretty sure we have it nailed down on the B8 S4 network page... LOL !

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What page is that? Got a link?

[RoofRails]

What page is that? Got a link?

It's the Audi B8/B8.5 Network

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1373...636/?ref=share

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[613b8s4]

I met up with a buddy today I haven't seen in a while and he has a custom tune done by a local tuner on his b8 6MT s4. the tuner was able to include rev matching down shifts. as an 034 customer id love to have this added to the current files if possible?!

[Nsatisfied]

The more I think on it and to continue discussion/interest.... I'm guessing a full gdi hpfp upgrade similar to the xdi stuff for Ecoboosts

[Nillious]

For 30whp it has to be something that is going to increase airflow not just fueling. It seems the blower is now the limiting factor so id think it has to be related to that somehow.

[Fresh.S4]

For 30whp it has to be something that is going to increase airflow not just fueling. It seems the blower is now the limiting factor so id think it has to be related to that somehow.

if fueling is already struggling, then why would we need MORE air?

very curious to see whats going on...

cams would be interesting, but pre covid i think that was a bust with considering using 3.2 cams. All new cams would be VERY expensive in the $$=hp.

hopefully its an easy enough mod that doesnt require a lot of mechanical work.

[RoofRails]

For 30whp it has to be something that is going to increase airflow not just fueling. It seems the blower is now the limiting factor so id think it has to be related to that somehow.

Something like this ?

https://www.tapouttuning.com/product...cam-for-ats-v/

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[Nillious]

I was under the impression that the stock fuel system could supply enough fuel to make all the power the stock blower can make on pump gas. I thought it was the e40 files that it was running short on some cars.

[RoofRails]

I was under the impression that the stock fuel system could supply enough fuel to make all the power the stock blower can make on pump gas. I thought it was the e40 files that it was running short on some cars.

Yeah, that's accurate. There is plenty of headroom on the non ethanol blended fuel. Max effort people are usually running E40 though. 104 is pretty pricey to daily.

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[blabanieh]

Guess we'll have to wait and see, won't we now!

-Sean@034

We got any Black Friday specials going on?! My B8.5 S4 is ready for Stage 1 tune now

[034Motorsport]

We got any Black Friday specials going on?! My B8.5 S4 is ready for Stage 1 tune now

:)

-Sean@034

[somedude]

if fueling is already struggling, then why would we need MORE air?

very curious to see whats going on...

cams would be interesting, but pre covid i think that was a bust with considering using 3.2 cams. All new cams would be VERY expensive in the $$=hp.

hopefully its an easy enough mod that doesnt require a lot of mechanical work.

Expensive depends on the goal. I have wondered if the 3.2 crank can be put in a 3.0t block and used as a stroker crank like on the older engines, that coupled with a upgraded/modified head or valvetrain could easily see 30ish hp. It would even drop boost pressure a little bit which might slightly improve intake temps. Unless the 3.2 crank does not work in the 3.0 engine for some reason. If you are building a engine spending 5 to 10k on a proper build is not uncommon. This is especially true if you are able to get more rpm out of the engine from a better valvetrain.

[034Motorsport]

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[034Motorsport]

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[Jcam14]

@034, those look great. will they be available in different colors? I recently just got back into an Audi S4, and bought a 2015 S4. It had some 034 MS stickers on it. I was wondering if i hit you guys up and gave you the cars VIN if you could tell me if theres been any work done to it by you guys. I bought it from a dealership so i dont know first hand the modding history.

[034Motorsport]

@034, those look great. will they be available in different colors? I recently just got back into an Audi S4, and bought a 2015 S4. It had some 034 MS stickers on it. I was wondering if i hit you guys up and gave you the cars VIN if you could tell me if theres been any work done to it by you guys. I bought it from a dealership so i dont know first hand the modding history.

The sway bars are black, but I'm sure you could have them powder coated any other color you'd like. The coating keeps a nice OEM+ look and also doubles as protection for the bars.

Shoot the VIN to [email protected] and we can let you know if we tuned it. Otherwise, we have no clue about the hardware modifications as we do not do any VIN tracking (unless we worked on the car locally).

You can also look at the CarFax and see what shops previously worked on the car - you should be able to get the RO upon request.

-Sean@034

[BrokeBichB8]

Cams will give us an excuse to port and polish the heads netting in at least another 70-100 HP?!?

[RoofRails]

Cams will give us an excuse to port and polish the heads netting in at least another 70-100 HP?!?

Cams producing 30+whp for this platform would be a game changer. I was thinking more along the lines of changing out the tensioners may give me an excuse to install cams. LOL !

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[Nillious]

Maybe a suggestion to 034 to come up with a re-man or replacement rack for the B8.5s. They seem to be dropping like flies lately and no options other than used. Oem is always on back order and extremely expensive.

[Fresh.S4]

Maybe a suggestion to 034 to come up with a re-man or replacement rack for the B8.5s. They seem to be dropping like flies lately and no options other than used. Oem is always on back order and extremely expensive.

steering rack? the electronic bs?

[bakedziti]

steering rack? the electronic bs?

And wasn’t the warranty extended on these to something like 120K?

[Nillious]

I believe it was but the majority of them are over that and it’s only covered if a certain code is set. Thousands of b8.5s are driving around with notchy steering racks that Audi will not cover. You can literally google results for notchy b8.5 steering and not even scratch the surface of the results. There is a tsb set for the issue but says no fix released from Audi. I don’t expect to ever see one since the car is out of production for seven years now.

[Fresh.S4]

I believe it was but the majority of them are over that and it’s only covered if a certain code is set. Thousands of b8.5s are driving around with notchy steering racks that Audi will not cover. You can literally google results for notchy b8.5 steering and not even scratch the surface of the results. There is a tsb set for the issue but says no fix released from Audi. I don’t expect to ever see one since the car is out of production for seven years now.

lmaoooo

explain to me again why b8.5s keep trying to be overpriced?

b8 is has always been a much for valuable car.

[Nillious]

Yes. Over time things get more advanced and “better”. Anyway don’t want to hijack their thread with a separate discussion just wanted to make a suggestion and that is done.

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[serg72]

As far as I know, the problem with the B8.5 is not in the connecting rods, but in the pistons. So I don't understand why a set of forged connecting rods? You may need to consider a set of forged pistons. For a standard compression ratio of 10.3 or even for 10.0. Am I wrong?

[RoofRails]

As far as I know, the problem with the B8.5 is not in the connecting rods, but in the pistons. So I don't understand why a set of forged connecting rods? You may need to consider a set of forged pistons. For a standard compression ratio of 10.3 or even for 10.0. Am I wrong?

Per today's Live stream it is 034s stance that the OEM pistons are not a weakness and I'm paraphrasing, but they basically said the major failures a few of us see would not have been saved with a forged pistons. They also said one of the benefits of the rods will be seen when spinning the engine up to 8K + RPMs.


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[Fresh.S4]

Per today's Live stream it is 034s stance that the OEM pistons are not a weakness and I'm paraphrasing, but they basically said the major failures a few of us see would not have been saved with a forged pistons. They also said one of the benefits of the rods will be seen when spinning the engine up to 8K + RPMs.


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where have the reports been about blowing out rods? unless thats the connection when folks blow engines up because of the fuel/ DA problems.
also spinning to 8k rpms actually sounds kinda ridiculous with the oem sc. thats like waaay past the "efficiency range" based on that pulley chart, especially on a dp setup. a single pulley might be able to get away with that. at that point I think you would have to choose whats more important: longer revs, or aggressive ratios.

[RoofRails]

where have the reports been about blowing out rods? unless thats the connection when folks blow engines up because of the fuel/ DA problems.
also spinning to 8k rpms actually sounds kinda ridiculous with the oem sc. thats like waaay past the "efficiency range" based on that pulley chart, especially on a dp setup. a single pulley might be able to get away with that. at that point I think you would have to choose whats more important: longer revs, or aggressive ratios.

All of this revolves around bigger power adders coming to market along with people doing their own big hp builds. I agree that rods to this point haven't been a issue but 034 believes they are more of a weak link then pistons. I also agree with you on the high RPM I was just passing along what they said. I personally didn't think High RPM and positive displacement blowers went hand and hand, but in that context, Javad did mention the bigger blowers. Personally, I'd be happy with my extra 30whp (cams) and a 7200-7400 redline

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[Shane Horning]

Of the 15 3.0 engines I've replaced , 2 were from broken rods, 3 spun rod bearings and all the rest from piston failures, mostly cylinder 5. Sure seems to me we should throw in upgraded pistons, kinda like b8.5 a4 flex engines and apr tune, I've had a handful come thru with broken pistons and I just throw in 600$ forged piston sets and guys beat the crap out of them and never any more piston failures

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[Spartan23]

Has anyone here switched from single pulley EPL stage 2 over to 034?

I love the torque of the EPL stage 2 tune. How does 034's tune compare?

[ChrisDevins]

Has anyone here switched from single pulley EPL stage 2 over to 034?

I love the torque of the EPL stage 2 tune. How does 034's tune compare?

I actually did exactly that, went from EPL single pulley stage 2 to 034 single pulley stage 2 and I couldn't be happier. Chris at EPL is great and that is one huge perk to EPL tunes is they feel slightly more "personal" whereas the 034 is just great right out of the box. The launch control feature is great and the tune itself feels more "refined" so to speak. If you're looking for speed, I think 034 is the way to go.

[034Motorsport]

Has anyone here switched from single pulley EPL stage 2 over to 034?

I love the torque of the EPL stage 2 tune. How does 034's tune compare?

We've got dozens of individuals that switched over from EPL to our software with nothing but great feedback. The point that comes to mind is the car is much easier and smoother to drive.

Hit us up at [email protected] and we'd be happy to hook you up with our 35% off MSRP EPL switching discount!

-Sean@034

[SwankPeRFection]

We've got dozens of individuals that switched over from EPL to our software with nothing but great feedback. The point that comes to mind is the car is much easier and smoother to drive.

Hit us up at [email protected] and we'd be happy to hook you up with our 35% off MSRP EPL switching discount!

-Sean@034

Anyone ever come to your shop and dyno before and after between EPL and your tune? Or have any of your remote customers done that and reported back? Would be interested to see the curves. I’ve got EPL and I’ve been happy for over 150k miles. Only thing I hate is the lack of CEL coding for the rear O2 sensors, lack of not removing the speed limiter. Thing I don’t like about your option is that jerky drivability issue your reviewers keep mentioning caused by you messing with the accelerator input scaling which seems to affect some but not others. I don’t mind switching, but I don’t want to spend money to have a new set of “things to deal with” when I’ve had no mechanical issues for that many miles, you know what I mean?

No sure why anyone is having drivability issues on EPL or rather they’re saying it’s easier to drive on 034. Seems weird. Please clarify in more detail for us if you can.

BTW, when are the cams coming out?