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    DIY: Timing Chain and Tensioner Replacement for the Audi A4 B7 2.0 Liter Turbo

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    Hey guys,

    The timing chain and tensioner on the 2005.5-2008 Audi A4 2.0T engine commonly causes issues and it has been difficult to find a concise DIY walk-through, so I thought I'd write one since recently doing the job myself. I'm going to start by talking about some symptoms and causes of a faulty/broken tensioner. Then I'll give you a breakdown of the tools and parts necessary to do this job, recommend additional optional parts to replace, and give you a walk-through of the job step by step with a few tips along the way.

    I know that a lot of people visit the main forum and few go to the B7 A4 Tech section, so I thought I would post here first so that people can see the walkthrough before I have it moved to the tech section.


    Time: 6-10 hours
    Difficulty: 8.5/10
    Although there are only a few parts to take off, the bolts can be in unforgiving locations. The most difficult part of this job is ensuring that the exhaust cam sprocket/adjuster bolt is not stripped when you are removing it and that the timing is set right before you close everything up. I hope to make this process simple and less overwhelming so that anyone who can keep track of where their bolts and harnesses go can do this job with confidence.

    Special thanks to Timmy at Astral Auto Repairs on Youtube for his videos… "can ya dig it?"
    These videos were the only thing I could find to guide me through the daunting task of replacing my timing chain and tensioner. Please feel free to use the videos as a supplementary reference to this DIY.

    Part 1
    Part 2
    Part 3
    Part 4
    Part 5

    Symptoms:
    Metal clinging or slapping sound from back of valve cover at idle which may or may not go away under load.
    P000A check engine light sometimes precedes serious symptoms and may be intermittent.
    Power loss, poor fuel economy or limp mode with check engine light.

    Causes:
    Most commonly, the plastic guides for the timing chain on the tensioner break.
    Poor cam follower maintenance causing metal pieces, flakes and shavings to enter cam cover causing tensioner to wear prematurely.
    Low oil levels/pressure causing tensioner to wear prematurely, this may be due to oil consumption commonly due to broken PCV, valve cover issues, or oil leak due to warped oil filter housing assembly.


    **********
    WARNING:
    I am not responsible for any injuries or complications that may occur due to your actions while using this guide. By reading further, you acknowledge that you are performing these tasks at your own risk of bodily harm or injury as well as any malfunction of your vehicle which may require costly repair. Improper technique or using low quality tools when removing the exhaust cam sprocket bolt may cause it to strip, requiring further removal of the cam girdle, drilling out the bolt, and/or replacement of the exhaust cam and sprocket. Improper technique when setting the timing may result in catastrophic engine failure, and you perform this maintenance acknowledging these facts at your own risk and financial burden.
    **********


    Parts necessary (click on links to purchase):
    Timing chain and tensioner kit
    Assenmacher T12052 cam locking tool DO NOT USE ANY OTHER BRAND!
    Assenmacher #10 polydrive socket (VW5220) DO NOT USE ANY OTHER BRAND!
    1/2 inch drive ratchet
    1/4 inch drive ratchet
    4" long 1/4 inch drive extension
    18” long 1/2 inch drive breaker bar
    1/2 inch drive torque wrench (rent from autozone for $100, return for full refund)
    19mm 12 point socket (1/2 inch drive)
    Phillips head screwdriver
    Flat head screwdriver
    5mm Allen wrench (NOT pictured)
    10mm, 13mm, and 17mm wrenches
    Torx T20, T25, T27 and T30 sockets (1/4 inch drive)
    2 pairs of vice grips (NOT pictured)
    M5 Triple square bit (NOT pictured)
    5w40 engine oil and assembly lube/grease
    Oil filter
    Black sharpie or brightly colored marker
    Assorted size worm clamps
    Coolant not required; necessary only if replacing rear coolant flange



    Additional Recommended Parts:
    Timing Cover Rebuild Kit with cam adjuster seals (06F198107A). This is pretty much required. You will be taking off the timing cover, however the ECS kit only provides the gasket for the main housing. The gaskets to rebuild the vacuum pump and cam adjuster seals which will almost certainly be worn or broken are not included with the kit.
    Rear Coolant Flange replacement kit. The rear coolant flange is prone to leaks and is difficult to get to due to its location. This is an ideal time to easily replace this piece.
    N205 valve. This may or may not be necessary. If you threw a P000A code, it might be a good idea to easily replace this.
    Pressure Control Valve (PCV) replacement kit. You will be removing your OEM PCV, which is prone to failure causing high oil consumption rates. The ECS kit comes with a new PCV gasket, but getting the complete PCV kit is always a good idea since most of the top of the motor will be removed making replacement easy. Make sure you buy the correct kit. ECS has 2 kits, one for models up to 2006 and one for models after 2006. You can double check which one to buy by referencing your VIN with their staff.
    Spark plugs are also a good idea for general maintenance at this time.


    Torque Specs:
    Exhaust cam sprocket/adjuster bolt: 15ft/lbs + 1/8 turn per the factory manual, ELSAWin. (Timmy from Astral Auto Repair torqued his down to 75.3 ft/lbs.)
    Timing Tensioner bolts: 7ft/lbs
    Timing Chain Cover bolts: 7ft/lbs
    Valve Cover bolts: 7ft/lbs
    HPFP bolts: 7ft/lbs


    __________________________________________________
    Step by Step Removal and Replacement of Timing Chain and Tensioner:


    1.) Using 10mm wrench, disconnect the negative battery terminal.
    2.) Remove the plastic engine cover by pulling up at the front of the engine.
    3.) Using T20 Torx, remove the two bolts holding coil harness in place.
    4.) Starting with middle two coils, push forward on the coil harness and pull back on tabs slightly.
    5.) Repeat with outer two coils, then pull the entire harness off of coils.
    6.) Remove the coil packs.



    7.) Using flathead screwdriver loosen the fastenings of the breather tube to turbo.
    8.) Using adjustable pliers, pull the clamp back on the valve cover hose to turbo.
    9.) Twist and move the hoses back and forth to break any seal that may have formed due to heat and age. This will make valve cover removal easier.



    10.) Release the upper PCV hose by hand and remove it.
    11.) Using a flat head, gently pry open the breather hose to the oil filter housing assembly from each side (top, right, left and bottom) while pushing back on it with your thumb.
    12.) Release the hose on the valve cover by hand.



    13.) Place a towel under the High Pressure Fuel Pump (HPFP) to absorb fuel leaks in upcoming steps.
    14.) Disconnect the 2 harnesses to HPFP.



    15.) Relieve fuel pressure from the HPFP by pressing down on the pressure valve core and use 13mm wrench to remove pressure valve.
    16.) Using 17mm wrench, disconnect the flair nut on the hardline from the HPFP. It is behind the coolant hard pipe in this image.
    17.) Using pliers, loosen the clamp to disconnect the rubber fuel hose from the hardline (refer to other walkthrough for HPFP with banjo bolt fittings). I have upgraded my HPFP internals, so my clamp was replaced with a worm clamp for easier install and removal.



    18.) Using T30 Torx, remove the 3 bolts securing HPFP to head and remove the HPFP and cam follower. Make sure to replace the o-ring around the HPFP when reinstalling.



    19.) Using T30 Torx, remove the 2 bolts on the front of the timing belt cover.
    20.) Disconnect the timing sensor harness.
    21.) Using T30 Torx, remove the bolt securing the timing sensor in place. It may be difficult to fit a ratchet in this space. You can use a T30 Torx bit and a 1/4 inch wrench to loosen the bolt as a secondary method. Click on the link for the video of Timmy from Astral Auto Repairs performing this technique.
    22.) Remove the timing sensor.



    23.) Using T30 Torx, loosen the 14 bolts on the valve cover.
    24.) Using a flathead screwdriver, gently pry open the driver’s side of the valve cover by twisting at bolt holes. Watch Timmy from Astral Auto Repairs perform this step by clicking here.
    25.) Lift up on the valve cover and pull it off of the PCV hoses to the turbo. Watch Timmy from Astral Auto Repairs perform this step by clicking here.
    26.) Remove the timing belt cover.



    27.) Using T25 Torx, remove the 4 bolts on the PCV and remove the PCV. Replace the PCV gasket and PCV. You may skip this step if you do not intend to replace the PCV.



    28.) Using pliers, remove the clamp on the vacuum hose from vacuum pump to break booster and remove the hose. You will have to replace this clamp with a worm clamp when reinstalling.



    29.) Unplug the N205 harness.
    30.) Using M5 Triple square bit, remove the wire harness bracket and move the wire harness out of the way.



    31.) Using T30 Torx, remove the top 2 bolts on the vacuum pump.



    32.) Using T27 Torx, remove the bottom bolt on the vacuum pump and remove the vacuum pump. It might be difficult to find, so use this picture with the ratchet in place along with landmarks to help.



    32a.) Note that a bracket with one of the big 3 ground wires found in the engine is secured into place by this bolt. The T27 bolt goes through the hole circled. This needs to be reinstalled back into place or the car will not run right.
    33.) Remove the vacuum pump. If you purchased a rebuild kit/vacuum pump seals, you will want to replace them at this time.



    34.) Using T30 Torx, remove the 7 bolts holding the timing chain cover in place. There are 4 on top and 3 on bottom. Of the bottom bolts, there is one on each end of timing chain cover and 1 in the middle. You can locate it by feeling for a groove on the bottom surface of the timing chain cover. The bolt on the bottom passenger's side should be easy to find. Be careful not to mistake rear coolant flange bolts (silver) for the middle lower timing chain cover bolt (black). Use the pictures below to help find the bottom driver's side and middle bolts:



    34a.) Bottom driver's side bolt on the timing chain cover.



    34b.) Bottom middle bolt on the timing chain cover. It is located within the groove on the bottom surface of the timing chain cover just above the top of the rear coolant flange. You will need to use a 4 inch extension to reach it.




    35.) Pull out the timing chain cover and inspect the 3 seals on the cam adjuster inside. Clean out any oil and debris from the inside of this cover. If you have a worn out cam follower, metal pieces and/or shavings will be found here. Replace all/any broken seals. Notice that 2 out of 3 of my square seals on the adjuster unit were broken. Although ordering these seals is not required to do this job, it is highly recommended! Also, if you have had a P000A code, it would be a good idea to replace the N205 valve.



    36.) Jack up the front of the car and place it on jack stands. Make sure to pull the hand break up and place some kind of stopper under the rear wheels to prevent the car from rolling before performing this step! Not taking these precautions may seriously injure or kill you!
    37.) Using flathead screwdriver, remove quick screws securing belly pan. (Image sourced from Cottonmouth's Snub Mount Installation thread).



    38.) From underneath the car, pull the harness off of the radiator fan and move it out of the way to provide more room accessing the crank pulley. You do not have to undo the harness as it is fastened to a metal clip. You can pull on the entire harness and the clip will come off of the radiator fan, allowing you to move the harness out of the way. I apologize for only having a picture of this from above, but you can find it in this location easily from underneath.



    39.) Use 19mm 12 point socket with your 1/2 inch drive ratchet set to "tighten" to rotate crank pulley CLOCKWISE until top dead center. DO NOT ROTATE THE CRANK PULLEY COUNTERCLOCKWISE!!! You can ensure this by aligning the mark (painted silver in the picture) on the exhaust cam gear with the arrow on the timing cover. If you overshoot the timing mark, DO NOT GO BACKWARDS/COUNTERCLOCKWISE!!! Continue to rotate the crank pulley clockwise until you return to the timing marks again.
    39a.) You can ensure that your timing belt is timed correctly by looking at the timing mark on the crack pulley and cover to make sure they align as well. I could not get a picture of this on my car, but you can watch Timmy from Astral Auto Repairs do it by clicking here!




    40.) Place the Assenmacher T10252 cam locking tool between the farthest grooves on the cams. If the timing is set correctly, it should slide freely in and out between the cams. Tighten down the 5mm hex bolts to "hand tight" using a 5mm allen wrench to hold the cam locker firmly in place. Do not overtighten these bolts as they will strip and break off in the girdle.



    41.) Using Assenmacher #10 polydrive socket and 18" long breaker bar (1/2 inch drive), remove the cam adjuster bolt. Make sure to keep the polydrive socket and breaker bar as straight as possible. You may want to have a friend help. Click here to watch Timmy and Marcus from Astral Auto Repairs perform this step!
    42.) Remove exhaust cam sprocket and chain.



    43.) Using T30 Torx, remove the 3 bolts securing timing chain tensioner in place. Make sure to inspect chain guides for any broken or missing pieces and clear them from the area.



    44.) Clean all surfaces to remove any residual gasket material and/or metal shavings on the back of the head. At this time, it is a good idea to replace the rear coolant flange. Look at how much room you have to work! It won't be this easy if you have a coolant leak from the rear coolant flange down the road.


    46.) Slather a small amount of engine assembly lube long the plastic chain guides on your new timing tensioner.
    47.) Using T30 Torx, install the new timing chain tensioner. DO NOT REMOVE THE PIN.



    48.) Take the timing chain and arrange it so that the copper link on your left facing you.
    49.) Count 18 pins to the right of the copper link.
    50.) Mark the 18th and 19th pins with your sharpie/marker.



    51.) Identify the timing mark on the exhaust cam sprocket (at the 12 o'clock position in the picture).



    52.) Use some 5w40 oil to lube up the timing chain and place it onto the exhaust cam sprocket with the 18th and 19th pins over the timing mark with the colored portion facing you.



    53.) Identify the timing mark on the intake cam sprocket (small dot at the 12 o'clock position in the picture).



    54.) While making sure not to let the timing chain slip off of the exhaust cam sprocket, place the timing chain over the intake cam sprocket facing with the copper link facing the front of the engine. Note that in the picture, the copper link is facing toward the front of the motor while the timing mark on the intake cam sprocket is between the 2 pins of the corresponding link (This arrangement is highlighted by the red box).



    55.) While taking care not to let the timing chain slip off of either sprocket, install the exhaust cam sprocket with timing chain onto the exhaust cam. If you are having trouble installing the exhaust cam sprocket, click here to use Timmy's vice grip trick as shown on Astral Auto Repairs!



    56.) Place 2 pairs of vice grips onto the exhaust cam, as shown by Timmy from Astral Auto Repairs. I apologize for not taking a photo of this step.
    57.) Install the exhaust cam sprocket/adjuster bolt and torque it to 15ft/lbs + 1/8 turn (per ELSAWin manual) or 73.5ft/lbs (per Timmy) depending on your preference.
    58.) Pull the pin from the timing chain tensioner.
    59.) Remove the cam locker.
    60.) Ensure that all timing marks still line up by either "tightening" the exhaust cam sprocket bolt with the #10 polydrive socket or "tightening" the crank pulley clockwise using the 19mm 12 point socket to move the motor "backwards" and "forwards" respectively. The cams, timing chain, and timing belt should all move together, and all marks should line up.


    61.) Re-install everything in reverse order starting from #35. Leave the belly pan off for now.


    62.) When installing the vacuum pump, make sure to line up the slot going vertically. If your intake cam is timed right, the slot which the vacuum pump lines up with should also be going up and down. (Refer to image on Step #34a. You can see that after the timing is set, the slot should be arranged vertically in the top right corner of the image.)



    60.) When installing the valve cover, make sure to put the bolts through the gasket before placing it on the head. You should be able to turn it upside down without the bolts falling out with the gasket on, as shown in this picture.



    60a.) Here is the torque sequence for the valve cover.


    61.) Change the oil and oil filter. Add coolant if you replaced your rear coolant flange.


    62.) Turn the key to the ignition on position to prime the fuel system. Give a couple of quarter starts to prime the oil system. Start the car and let it run for 30 minutes to 1 hour. Check for any leaks. If you replaced the rear coolant flange, make sure to leave the coolant reservoir uncapped and set your climate control to the highest heat setting with the lowest fan setting. Allow the car to get to temperature and massage the front rubber coolant hose to remove any air bubbles from the cooling system.


    63.) Take the car out for a leisurely drive to ensure everything is in working order. Once you are satisfied that the car is running well without leaks, reinstall the belly pan.



    Congratulate yourself on completing one of the most difficult jobs on this car!

    Here is a picture of all the valves, sensors, hoses, and seals I replaced:



    A final special thanks to Timmy from Astral Auto Repairs for the initial guidance and confidence to do this job, and for allowing me to simplify his approach to make this DIY!


    Can ya dig it?

    Edit 1: Updated torque specs for exhaust cam sprocket/adjuster bolt per ELSAWin manual. Added oil, ratchets, and 5mm allen wrench and clarified drive sizes to required parts list. Clarified and more clearly defined "clockwise" and other key actions with a more detailed explanation. Fixed a few typos.
    Edit 2: Added valve cover torque sequence.
    Last edited by medrads2020; 07-08-2019 at 04:53 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by medrads2020 View Post
    Hey guys,

    The timing chain and tensioner on the 2005.5-2008 Audi A4 2.0T engine commonly causes issues and it has been difficult to find a concise DIY walk-through, so I thought I'd write one since recently doing the job myself. I'm going to start by talking about some symptoms and causes of a faulty/broken tensioner, giving you a breakdown of the tools and parts necessary to do this job, recommend additional optional parts to replace, then give you a walk-through of the job step by step with a few tips along the way.

    I know that a lot of people visit the main forum and few go to the B7 A4 Tech section, so I thought I would post here first so that people can see the walkthrough before I have it moved to the tech section.


    Time: 6-10 hours
    Difficulty: 8.5/10
    Although there are only a few parts to take off, the bolts can be in unforgiving locations. The most difficult part of this job is ensuring that the exhaust (cam adjuster) sprocket bolt is not stripped when you are removing it and that the timing is set right before you close everything up. I hope to make this process simple and less overwhelming so that anyone who can keep track of where their bolts and harnesses go can do this job with confidence.

    Special thanks to Timmy at Astral Auto Repairs on Youtube for his videos… "can ya dig it?"
    These videos were the only thing I could find to guide me through the daunting task of replacing my timing chain and tensioner. Please feel free to use the videos as a supplementary reference to this DIY.

    Part 1
    Part 2
    Part 3
    Part 4
    Part 5

    Symptoms:
    Metal clinging or slapping sound from back of valve cover at idle which may or may not go away under load.
    P000A check engine light sometimes precedes serious symptoms and may be intermittent.
    Power loss, poor fuel economy or limp mode with check engine light.

    Causes:
    Most commonly, the plastic guides for the timing chain on the tensioner break.
    Poor cam follower maintenance causing metal pieces, flakes and shavings to enter cam cover causing tensioner to wear prematurely.
    Low oil levels/pressure causing tensioner to wear prematurely, this may be due to oil consumption commonly due to broken PCV, valve cover issues, or oil leak due to warped oil filter housing assembly.


    **********
    WARNING:
    I am not responsible for any injuries or complications that may occur due to your actions while using this guide. By reading further, you acknowledge that you are performing these tasks at your own risk of bodily harm or injury as well as any malfunction of your vehicle which may require costly repair. Improper technique when removing the exhaust cam sprocket bolt may cause it to strip, requiring further removal of the cam girdle, drilling out the bolt, and/or replacement of the exhaust cam and sprocket. Improper technique when setting the timing can cause catastrophic failure of the engine, and you perform this maintenance acknowledging these facts at your own risk and financial burden.
    **********


    Parts necessary (click on links to purchase):
    Timing chain and tensioner kit
    Assenmacher T12052 cam locking tool DO NOT USE ANY OTHER BRAND!
    Assenmacher #10 polydrive socket (VW5220) DO NOT USE ANY OTHER BRAND!
    18” long ½ inch breaker bar
    ½ inch torque wrench (rent from autozone for $100, return for full refund)
    19mm 12 point socket
    Phillips head screwdriver
    Flat head screwdriver
    10mm, 13mm, and 17mm wrenches
    Torx T20, T25, T27 and T30 sockets
    2 pairs of vice grips (NOT pictured)
    M5 Triple square bit (NOT pictured)
    5w40 engine oil and assembly lube/grease
    Black sharpie or brightly colored marker
    Assorted size worm clamps
    Coolant not required; necessary only if replacing rear coolant flange



    Additional Recommended Parts:
    Timing Cover Rebuild Kit with cam adjuster seals (06F198107A). This is pretty much required. You will be taking off the timing cover, however the ECS kit only provides the gasket for the main housing. The gaskets to rebuild the vacuum pump and cam adjuster seals which will almost certainly be worn or broken are not included with the kit.
    Rear Coolant Flange replacement kit. The rear coolant flange is prone to leaks and is difficult to get to due to its location. This is an ideal time to easily replace this piece.
    N205 valve. This may or may not be necessary. If you threw a P000A code, it might be a good idea to easily replace this.
    Pressure Control Valve (PCV) replacement kit. You will be removing your OEM PCV, which is prone to failure causing high oil consumption rates. The ECS kit comes with a new PCV gasket, but getting the complete PCV kit is always a good idea since most of the top of the motor will be removed making replacement easy. Make sure you buy the correct kit. ECS has 2 kits, one for models up to 2006 and one for models after 2006. You can double check which one to buy by referencing your VIN with their staff.
    Oil filter, 5w40 oil, and spark plugs are also a good idea for general maintenance at this time.


    Torque Specs:
    Cam adjuster bolt: 15ft/lbs + ⅛ turn (according to VW forums) or 73.5ft/lbs (according to Timmy from Astral Auto Repairs). I don't have a Bentley Manual, so I went with Timmy on this one. If anyone can provide a figure with source from the Bentley Manual, I will update this with the most correct figure.
    Timing Tensioner bolts: 7ft/lbs
    Timing Chain Cover bolts: 7ft/lbs
    Valve Cover bolts: 7ft/lbs
    HPFP bolts: 7ft/lbs


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    Step by Step Removal and Replacement of Timing Chain and Tensioner:


    1.) Using 10mm wrench, disconnect negative battery terminal.
    2.) Remove plastic engine cover by pulling up at the front of the engine.
    3.) Using T20 Torx, remove the two bolts holding coil harness in place.
    4.) Starting with middle two coils, push forward on coil harness and pull back on tabs slightly.
    5.) Repeat with outer two coils, then pull complete harness off of coils.
    6.) Remove coil packs.



    7.) Using flathead screwdriver loosen fastenings of breather tube to turbo.
    8.) Using adjustable pliers, pull the clamp back on the valve cover hose to turbo.
    9.) Twist and move the hoses back and forth to break any seal that may have formed due to heat and age. This will make valve cover removal easier.



    10.) Release the upper PCV hose by hand and remove it.
    11.) Using a flat head, gently pry open the breather hose to the oil filter housing assembly from each side (top, right, left and bottom) while pushing back on it with your thumb.
    12.) Release the hose on the valve cover by hand.



    13.) Place a towel under the High Pressure Fuel Pump (HPFP) to absorb fuel leaks in upcoming steps.
    14.) Disconnect harnesses to HPFP.



    15.) Relieve fuel pressure from HPFP and use 13mm wrench to remove pressure valve.
    16.) Using 17mm wrench, disconnect flair nut on hardline from HPFP. It is behind the coolant hard pipe in this image.
    17.) Using pliers, loosen the clamp to disconnect the rubber fuel hose from the hardline (refer to other walkthrough for HPFP with banjo bolt fittings). I have upgraded my HPFP internals, so my clamp was replaced with a worm clamp for easier install and removal.



    18.) Using T30 Torx, remove the 3 bolts securing HPFP to head and remove HPFP and cam follower. Make sure to replace the gasket around the HPFP when reinstalling.



    19.) Using T30 Torx, remove the 2 bolts on the front of the timing belt cover.
    20.) Disconnect the timing sensor harness.
    21.) Using T30 Torx, remove the bolt securing the timing sensor in place. It may be difficult to fit a ratchet in this space. You can use a T30 Torx bit and a 1/4 inch wrench to loosen the bolt as a secondary method. Click on the link for the video of Timmy from Astral Auto Repairs performing this technique.
    22.) Remove the timing sensor.



    23.) Using T30 Torx, loosen the 14 bolts on the valve cover.
    24.) Using a flathead screwdriver, gently pry open the driver’s side of the valve cover by twisting at bolt holes. Watch Timmy from Astral Auto Repairs perform this step by clicking here.
    25.) Lift up on the valve cover and pull it off of the PCV hoses to the turbo. Watch Timmy from Astral Auto Repairs perform this step by clicking here.
    26.) Remove the timing belt cover.



    27.) Using T25 Torx, remove the 4 bolts on the PCV and remove PCV. Replace the PCV gasket and PCV. You may skip this step if you do not intend to replace the PCV.



    28.) Using pliers, remove the clamp on the vacuum hose from vacuum pump to break booster and remove the hose. You will have to replace this clamp with a worm clamp when reinstalling.



    29.) Unplug N205 harness.
    30.) Using M5 Triple square bit, remove wire harness bracket move wire harness out of the way.



    31.) Using T30 Torx, remove top 2 bolts on vacuum pump.



    32.) Using T27 Torx, remove bottom bolt on vacuum pump and remove vacuum pump. It might be difficult to find, so use this picture with the ratchet in place along with landmarks to help.



    32a.) Note that a bracket with one of the big 3 ground wires found in the engine is secured into place by this bolt. The T27 bolt goes through the hole circled. This needs to be reinstalled back into place or the car will not run right.
    33.) Remove the vacuum pump. If you purchased a rebuild kit/vacuum pump seals, you will want to replace them at this time.



    34.) Using T30 Torx, remove the 7 bolts holding the timing chain cover in place. There are 4 on top and 3 on bottom. Of the bottom bolts, there is one on each end of timing chain cover and 1 in the middle. You can locate it by feeling for a groove on the bottom surface of the timing chain cover. The bolt on the bottom passenger's side should be easy to find. Be careful not to mistake rear coolant flange bolts (silver) for the timing chain cover bolts (black). Use the pictures below to help find the bottom driver's side and middle bolts:



    34a.) Bottom driver's side bolt on the timing chain cover.



    34b.) Bottom middle bolt on the timing chain cover. It is located within the groove on the bottom surface of the timing chain cover just above the top of the rear coolant flange. You will need to use a 4 inch extension to reach it.




    35.) Pull out the timing chain cover and inspect the 3 seals on the cam adjuster inside. Clean out any oil and debris from the inside of this cover. If you have a worn out cam follower, metal pieces and/or shavings will be found here. Replace all/any broken seals. Notice that 2 out of 3 of my square seals on the adjuster unit were broken. Although ordering these seals is not required to do this job, it is highly recommended! Also, if you have had a P000A code, it would be a good idea to replace the N205 valve.



    36.) Jack up the front of the car and place it on jack stands.
    37.) Using flathead screwdriver, remove quick screws securing belly pan. (Image sourced from Cottonmouth's Snub Mount Installation thread).



    38.) From underneath the car, pull the harness off of the radiator fan and move it out of the way to provide more room accessing the crank pulley. You do not have to undo the harness as it is fastened to a metal clip. You can pull on the entire harness and the clip will come off of the radiator fan, allowing you to move the harness out of the way. I apologize for only having a picture of this from above, but you can find it in this location easily from underneath.



    39.) Use 19mm 12 point socket to rotate crank pulley CLOCKWISE until top dead center. DO NOT ROTATE THE CRANK PULLEY COUNTERCLOCKWISE!!! You can ensure this by aligning the mark (painted silver in the picture) on the exhaust cam gear with the arrow on the timing cover.
    39a.) You can ensure that your timing belt is timed correctly by looking at the timing mark on the crack pulley and cover to make sure they align as well. I could not get a picture of this on my car, but you can watch Timmy from Astral Auto Repairs do it by clicking here!




    40.) Place the Assenmacher T10252 cam locking tool between the farthest grooves on the cams.



    41.) Using Assenmacher #10 polydrive socket, remove the cam adjuster bolt. Make sure to keep the polydrive socket and breaker bar as straight as possible. You may want to have a friend help. Click here to watch Timmy and Marcus from Astral Auto Repairs perform this step!
    42.) Remove exhaust cam sprocket and chain.



    43.) Using T30 Torx, remove the 3 bolts securing timing chain tensioner in place. Make sure to inspect chain guides for any broken or missing pieces and clear them from the area.



    44.) Clean all surfaces to remove any residual gasket material and/or metal shavings on the back of the head. At this time, it is a good idea to replace the rear coolant flange. Look at how much room you have to work! It won't be this easy if you have a coolant leak from the rear coolant flange down the road.


    46.) Slather a small amount of engine assembly lube long the plastic chain guides on your new timing tensioner.
    47.) Using T30 Torx, install the new timing chain tensioner. DO NOT REMOVE THE PIN.



    48.) Take the timing chain and arrange is so that the copper link on your left facing you.
    49.) Count 18 pins to the right of the copper link.
    50.) Mark the 18th and 19th pins with your sharpie/marker.



    51.) Identify the timing mark on the exhaust cam sprocket (at the 12 o'clock position in the picture).



    52.) Use some 5w40 oil to lube up the timing chain and place it onto the exhaust cam sprocket with the 18th and 19th pins over the timing mark with the colored portion facing you.



    53.) Identify the timing mark on the intake cam sprocket (small dot at the 12 o'clock position in the picture).



    54.) While making sure not to let the timing chain slip off of the exhaust cam sprocket, place the timing chain with the copper link over it facing the front of the engine. Note that in the picture, the copper link is facing toward the front of the motor while the timing mark on the intake cam sprocket is between the 2 pins of the corresponding link (This arrangement is highlighted by the red box).



    55.) While taking care not to let the timing chain slip off of either sprocket, install the exhaust cam sprocket with timing chain onto the exhaust cam. If you are having trouble installing the exhaust cam sprocket, click here to use Timmy's vice grip trick as shown on Astral Auto Repairs!



    56.) Place 2 pairs of vice grips onto the exhaust cam, as shown by Timmy from Astral Auto Repairs. I apologize for not taking a photo of this step.
    57.) Install the exhaust cam sprocket/adjuster bolt and torque it to 15ft/lbs + ½ turn or 73.5ft/lbs depending on your preference.
    58.) Pull the pin from the timing chain tensioner.
    59.) Remove the cam locker.
    60.) Ensure that all timing marks still line up by either "tightening" the exhaust cam sprocket bolt with the #10 polydrive socket or turning the crank pulley clockwise using the 19mm 12 point socket to move the motor "backwards" and "forwards" respectively. The cams, timing chain, and timing belt should all move together, and all marks should line up.


    61.) Re-install everything in reverse order starting from #35. Leave the belly pan off for now.


    62.) When installing the vacuum pump, make sure to line up the slot going vertically. If your intake cam is timed right, the slot which the vacuum pump lines up with should also be going up and down.



    60.) When installing the valve cover, make sure to put the bolts through the gasket before placing it on the head. You should be able to turn it upside down without the bolts falling out with the gasket on, as shown in this picture.


    61.) Change the oil and oil filter. Add coolant if you replaced your rear coolant flange.


    62.) Turn the key to the ignition on position to prime the fuel system. Give a couple of quarter starts to prime the oil system. Start the car and let it run for 30 minutes to 1 hour. Check for any leaks. If you replaced the rear coolant flange, make sure to leave the coolant reservoir uncapped and set your climate control to the highest heat setting with the lowest fan setting. Allow the car to get to temperature and massage the front rubber coolant hose to remove any air bubbles from the cooling system.


    63.) Take the car out for a leisurely drive to ensure everything is in working order. Once you are satisfied that the car is running well without leaks, reinstall the belly pan.



    Congratulate yourself on completing one of the most difficult jobs on this car!

    Here is a picture of all the valves, sensors, hoses, and seals I replaced:



    A final special thanks to Timmy from Astral Auto Repairs for the initial guidance and confidence to do this job, and for allowing me to simplify his approach to make this DIY!


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    I've been dreading having to do this job, and while I saw the videos from Astral Auto Parts, your guide here gives me that extra step I needed: Something I can read and refer to, including a complete set of tools needed and parts right from the beginning to make sure I have all I need!

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    Finally a DIY. Thanks!

    EDIT: Has anyone used Bremmen chain and tensioner at ECS? Or should OEM be used?
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    For step 39 is "clockwise" as you are facing the rear of the car?

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    The factory manual (ELSAWin) says 20Nm + 45° for the cam adjuster bolt. So 15ft.lbs. + 1/8th of a turn is spot on. Its hard to find specs for bolts like that so I just want to confirm your VW forum source was correct.

    This is a great resource though, and thanks for putting this together! Most particularly, your section on setting the chain timing correctly is awesome and a good use of marking the chain so that you don't have to keep counting links.
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    Thanks for the fantastic feedback and support everyone! I will continue to update this DIY to make it more complete with everyone's suggestions and critique! I am sure I missed some things or may have made some typos, so please feel free to comment with any suggestions or additions to this walkthrough!

    Quote Originally Posted by texadelphia View Post
    For step 39 is "clockwise" as you are facing the rear of the car?

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    Yes, clockwise as in the crank pulley is facing you and you have the ratchet set to "tighten." You will be moving the crank pulley bolt as if you are trying to make it tighter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Willënskraft View Post
    Finally a DIY. Thanks!

    EDIT: Has anyone used Bremmen chain and tensioner at ECS? Or should OEM be used?
    I am using the Bremmen chain and tensioner and will report on the long term reliability as time goes on. If ECS assembles the kit alongside OEM parts using Bremmen for the chain and tensioner, I would suspect that there should be no quality issues.

    Quote Originally Posted by mj109 View Post
    Nice!
    I noticed you posted a picture of the torque sequence on the valve cover. I managed to take a screenshot before you removed it in your edit. Do you mind if I use that picture and add it to my DIY for more completeness?

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles.waite View Post
    The factory manual (ELSAWin) says 20Nm + 45° for the cam adjuster bolt. So 15ft.lbs. + 1/8th of a turn is spot on. Its hard to find specs for bolts like that so I just want to confirm your VW forum source was correct.

    This is a great resource though, and thanks for putting this together! Most particularly, your section on setting the chain timing correctly is awesome and a good use of marking the chain so that you don't have to keep counting links.
    Thanks for the info, I will update my DIY accordingly!
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    Quote Originally Posted by medrads2020 View Post
    I am using the Bremmen chain and tensioner and will report on the long term reliability as time goes on. If ECS assembles the kit alongside OEM parts using Bremmen for the chain and tensioner, I would suspect that there should be no quality issues.
    !
    Oh yes, please do! Looking forward on a review.

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    Quote Originally Posted by medrads2020 View Post
    I noticed you posted a picture of the torque sequence on the valve cover. I managed to take a screenshot before you removed it in your edit. Do you mind if I use that picture and add it to my DIY for more completeness?
    Yes I was going to make it nicer looking and repost it. I'll PM you

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    As I have done this job many times I can provide some input. By far the toughest job will removing cam adjuster bolt. even the high quality tools can break under the strain. make sure to reinforce the cams with th vice grips on the cams and brace against the head to assist the alignment tool, make sure to put jean or other heavy material around cam and against head.
    Also there is a slot in the end of the intake cam for turning it to get the pin to drop in place on the exhaust cam.

    I personally found it easier to just count the spaces between pins, that the sprocket teeth sit in, but its the same so doesn't matter.

    you can check the lobe angle on the intake and exhaust cam as a double check when you are done. Good write up though and should help out... here is more reference info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theiceman View Post
    As I have done this job many times I can provide some input. By far the toughest job will removing cam adjuster bolt. even the high quality tools can break under the strain. make sure to reinforce the cams with th vice grips on the cams and brace against the head to assist the alignment tool, make sure to put jean or other heavy material around cam and against head.
    Also there is a slot in the end of the intake cam for turning it to get the pin to drop in place on the exhaust cam.

    I personally found it easier to just count the spaces between pins, that the sprocket teeth sit in, but its the same so doesn't matter.

    you can check the lobe angle on the intake and exhaust cam as a double check when you are done. Good write up though and should help out... here is more reference info.

    https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...ighlight=wrote
    I agree that the toughest part is ensuring that you properly remove the cam adjuster bolt without stripping it. Personally, I found it hard to overcome the fear of stripping it instilled by all of the horror stories, but once I got to it, it was relatively straightforward - keep everything straight and at 90 degrees while adding force to break it free.

    In hindsight, this seems a lot easier than it was in the moment, and it is a very rewarding feeling to feel comfortable putting everything back together and hearing the car start up smoothly.

    You're right about the slot at the end of the intake cam and there is a specialized tool for it, but the vice grips serve the same purpose.

    Thanks for adding more info and references, Theiceman! It's great to have input from those who have done this job to get a perspective on their experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by medrads2020 View Post
    I agree that the toughest part is ensuring that you properly remove the cam adjuster bolt without stripping it. Personally, I found it hard to overcome the fear of stripping it instilled by all of the horror stories, but once I got to it, it was relatively straightforward - keep everything straight and at 90 degrees while adding force to break it free.

    In hindsight, this seems a lot easier than it was in the moment, and it is a very rewarding feeling to feel comfortable putting everything back together and hearing the car start up smoothly.

    You're right about the slot at the end of the intake cam and there is a specialized tool for it, but the vice grips serve the same purpose.

    Thanks for adding more info and references, Theiceman! It's great to have input from those who have done this job to get a perspective on their experience.


    the good news I guess is that if you shatter the tool or strip the bolt, it is fairly easy to button up and have at it another day, is not like your car is stranded. then its cradle removal time :)
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    is timing chain replacement necessary as noone told me that this is part of the maintainence. I am not sure if this lasts for the car's lifetime.

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    Great write up but I’d like to add one thing. If you have an early build car and want to tackle this job, make sure you have enough money put aside in case you need to replace the cam phaser and housing. The early cars used hard sealing rings and depending on mileage, the rings can wear grooves into the phaser.

    If you pull your phaser and there is no wear inside and the teeth are good, just replace the seals on the housing with updated ones and reuse your phaser.

    If they look like this, you’ll have to buy the updated phaser and housing for 700 bucks!!!

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    Edit: these groves can make it hard to remove the chain cover because the rings are in the groves. If you break the rings removing the cover, make sure you get all the bits out.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeevan View Post
    is timing chain replacement necessary as noone told me that this is part of the maintainence. I am not sure if this lasts for the car's lifetime.
    The timing chain is not listed as regular maintenance on any Audi maintenance schedule that I could find. However, it almost surely does not last the life of the car, especially if the cam follower has not been properly maintained. Worn out cam followers crack and break off in large pieces which may interfere with the timing chain and the plastic chain guides on the tensioner. This may cause the plastic guides to break off resulting in failure of the tensioner.

    I listed the causes and symptoms at the beginning of the DIY, which should guide your judgement as whether the timing chain and tensioner need to be replaced.
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    thanks for the response.

    is there a way to identify a worn timing chain or tensioner without any engine codes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeevan View Post
    thanks for the response.

    is there a way to identify a worn timing chain or tensioner without any engine codes?
    Yes, loud noise from the back of the head. You can also look at the cam phaser position with VCDS.

    My car sounded pretty loud after my ride to work everyday. Sounded decent at start up, different after 40 minutes of driving.

    Mine had the worn out cam phaser in my pic. The tensioner has plently of material left but it had a hairline crack.

    You can visual inspect the tensioner and cam phaser just by taking the back cover off. You’ll need to replace the gasket and cover oil seals if you take it off. You’ll need a new HPFP and vacuum pump O ring too.
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    A SPECIFIC chain slap noise from the back of the head. There are plenty of “normal” noises become from our engines that don’t really sound 100% normal but are.

    Generally happens on cold start, sounds a bit like a metal baseball card slapping on bicycle spokes.

    I used to get that occasionally actually. Since I replaced the timing housing gasket that was leaking I’ve not had it happen once. My guess is that the oil leaking out the gasket was causing enough of an oil pressure loss in the head when the engine was off to allow the tensioner to sag and the chain to slacken just enough to slap a bit.
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    My noises were different. It was more a difference of volume than of type.

    With the window closed at first start up I couldn’t hear my engine at all. Got to work, I could hear the noise from the head.

    Now with the new phaser, chain and tensioner my car sounds new. Quieter than it’s ever been. I can’t hear it at all with the windows up. Just the exhaust.
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    Interesting.

    Given I've never really heard a truly healthy 2.0t I wonder what my new engine is going to sound like in comparison to my current one.
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    I wonder how my car would sound with a cat. 😀 That fest pipe amplifies engine noise.
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    hmm, its getting difficult to diagnoise vaccum pump failure and timing chain noise.

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    I recently borrowed a vcds cable from a friend. I would like to know the steps about inspecting the cam phaser position.

    I know the basics about running a full scan and testing some electrical components.

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    To rotate the cams to align them to TDC, is it OK to rotate the intake cam using the cam wrench or do you need to rotate the crank with the 19mm socket? Like step 6 in the following link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by texadelphia View Post
    To rotate the cams to align them to TDC, is it OK to rotate the intake cam using the cam wrench or do you need to rotate the crank with the 19mm socket? Like step 6 in the following link.

    https://forums.vwvortex.com/showthre...r-*BPY-engines
    Rotating the crank is the best way to set the motor to TDC since you will be using the timing marks on the timing cover and crank pulley to confirm TDC.

    The cam tool used in step 6 of the linked walkthrough is used to rotate the intake cam toward the exhaust cam to give slack to the timing chain when installing sprocket and chain as in steps 54 and 55 of this post. Alternatively, you can use vice grips on the intake cam, as Timmy from Astral Auto Repairs does, to rotate it for these steps.
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    Is the Assenmacher Socket preferable over the Audi T40080 tool? I see that ECS carries the Audi part for less than Amazon sells the Assenmacher one. Which is best?

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    How many are you planning to change, if it is more than 1 then go Assenmacher

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    Awesome demonstration. Thank you for posting it. I've been following Tim's videos as well, but still have some questions. My 2.ot fsi Passat lost timing, and I'm trying to decide what parts need to be replaced. If it's the valves, I'd be going a very different route.

    - The teeth on the timing belt are good.
    - The tensioner had strong spring response (I compared it to a new one I bought), and all the plastic guides were complete.
    - The chain was still on and tight, but the colored link wasn't anywhere near where it would be if someone had used it as a reference, when installing the chain. I know
    someone could have just not used the colored link as a reference, but I have a feeling this is the original parts from the manufacturer.

    - The cam adjuster looks good, except for the alignment pin was sheared off. I don't know if it broke when the engine lost time, or if I broke it while working on it. (I
    also don't know how to tell if the adjuster is good, but it sounds like there's good sealed suction when I tilt it in my hand)

    - The cam adjuster seals were in place, but brittle and one was broken.
    - The cam follower was good with minor wear.
    - The lobes on the cam end were clean with no deformation.
    - The HPFP tested good.
    - All of the seals looked good.
    - The one thing I know is that about a month before the failure, I pulled the cam sensor out and it may have been damaged.
    - The car never started, but I was able to get a P0301 and a P0100 code.

    My questions:
    - Could a bad cam sensor, N205 have caused this, or maybe chain stretch?
    - Since the belt, the the chain, and the tensioner were still good, I would think the cams were still turning in sync, but out of time. If this is correct, is there a better
    chance of bent valves?
    - How do I tell if the cam adjuster is good/bad? Seems like a pretty simple part.
    - Could that sheared pin in the cam adjuster be the cause? (I really thing the pin got ripped off because of the timing failure.)


    I know this is a lot, but I appreciate any help or knowledge you might have.

    Here's where the chain was when I pulled it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soje View Post
    Awesome demonstration. Thank you for posting it. I've been following Tim's videos as well, but still have some questions. My 2.ot fsi Passat lost timing, and I'm trying to decide what parts need to be replaced. If it's the valves, I'd be going a very different route.

    - The teeth on the timing belt are good.
    - The tensioner had strong spring response (I compared it to a new one I bought), and all the plastic guides were complete.
    - The chain was still on and tight, but the colored link wasn't anywhere near where it would be if someone had used it as a reference, when installing the chain. I know
    someone could have just not used the colored link as a reference, but I have a feeling this is the original parts from the manufacturer.

    - The cam adjuster looks good, except for the alignment pin was sheared off. I don't know if it broke when the engine lost time, or if I broke it while working on it. (I
    also don't know how to tell if the adjuster is good, but it sounds like there's good sealed suction when I tilt it in my hand)

    - The cam adjuster seals were in place, but brittle and one was broken.
    - The cam follower was good with minor wear.
    - The lobes on the cam end were clean with no deformation.
    - The HPFP tested good.
    - All of the seals looked good.
    - The one thing I know is that about a month before the failure, I pulled the cam sensor out and it may have been damaged.
    - The car never started, but I was able to get a P0301 and a P0100 code.

    My questions:
    - Could a bad cam sensor, N205 have caused this, or maybe chain stretch?
    - Since the belt, the the chain, and the tensioner were still good, I would think the cams were still turning in sync, but out of time. If this is correct, is there a better
    chance of bent valves?
    - How do I tell if the cam adjuster is good/bad? Seems like a pretty simple part.
    - Could that sheared pin in the cam adjuster be the cause? (I really thing the pin got ripped off because of the timing failure.)


    I know this is a lot, but I appreciate any help or knowledge you might have.

    Here's where the chain was when I pulled it.
    Are you assuming your Passat lost timing on the timing belt side? If so, you may have to think about checking out your valves and most likely will have to take the heads off. This DIY would not be adequate for that job.

    I'm not sure why the timing chain would be off the reference point if everything was as you stated, or why the pin would be sheared off of the cam adjuster. Maybe someone with more knowledge about the front timing and belt can provide better answers.
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    The locator pin on the timing adjuster sheared off and you’re really still wondering why your engine is out of time? I think the answer is obvious.
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    the coloured link has NOTHING to do with timing and is for setup only... you are assuming one cam rotation lines up with the chain being in the same spot and that is NOT the case ... so why dont you back up and tell us why you think the car " lost timing" you jumped way ahead to asking questions about the answer but you have not adequately defined the problem... go back to the symptoms you were observing and when it started. cars dont " lose timing and have everything intact .. something caused it ..

    BTW that pin can be sheared when loosening the adjuster bolt.. the adjuster turns instead of that bolt. it can be drilled out and replaced easily...
    problem could have been as simple as broken rigs in yoru timing cover but you ripped it all apart likely before you had defined the problem.

    That said now you need to do at least the chain . tensioner, adjuster and new adjuster timing rings ..

    on the belt side you simply need to bring it to TDC and see if the timing mark lines up . but that will be tricky now with the chain off as these are interference engines..

    you didnt happen to do a compression test before started taking things off did you ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by vvenom800tt View Post
    Great DIY. very thorough and comprehensive.

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    I will be going through the process of installing a new chain tensioner, chain, intake cam(Revision B/J), and exhaust cam. Unfortunately, my exhaust cam is cracked and I need to remove the cam shaft sprocket. Can anyone refer me to a tool/method to hold the sprocket/cam in place while I remove the bolt? I cannot use the cam alignment tool to hold it in place since the exhaust cam is cracked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by forger View Post
    I will be going through the process of installing a new chain tensioner, chain, intake cam(Revision B/J), and exhaust cam. Unfortunately, my exhaust cam is cracked and I need to remove the cam shaft sprocket. Can anyone refer me to a tool/method to hold the sprocket/cam in place while I remove the bolt? I cannot use the cam alignment tool to hold it in place since the exhaust cam is cracked.
    Ok you need to add a bit of clarity... firstly. Are you actually doing all this work and leaving the cracked exhaust cam in ?? That would seem silly to me. But either way the approach is the same.
    Do not touch the exhaust adjuster bolt. You have to remove the upper cradle anyway to replace intake cam. At that point you can just move the exhaust cam out of the way to do the tensioner and chain.
    Then set up your timing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvolutionArmory View Post
    Great write up but I’d like to add one thing. If you have an early build car and want to tackle this job, make sure you have enough money put aside in case you need to replace the cam phaser and housing. The early cars used hard sealing rings and depending on mileage, the rings can wear grooves into the phaser.

    If you pull your phaser and there is no wear inside and the teeth are good, just replace the seals on the housing with updated ones and reuse your phaser.

    If they look like this, you’ll have to buy the updated phaser and housing for 700 bucks!!!

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    Edit: these groves can make it hard to remove the chain cover because the rings are in the groves. If you break the rings removing the cover, make sure you get all the bits out.


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    Just a bit of clarification here: You do need to replace your adjuster if it looks like this, but you don’t have to buy the incredibly expensive updated housing. You simply break the metal seal rings off the old housing and replace with the plastic set that the updated housing uses. I’ve done it myself and it works just fine. $40 for a set of seal ri gs sure beats a $700 chain cover.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aluthman View Post
    Just a bit of clarification here: You do need to replace your adjuster if it looks like this, but you don’t have to buy the incredibly expensive updated housing. You simply break the metal seal rings off the old housing and replace with the plastic set that the updated housing uses. I’ve done it myself and it works just fine. $40 for a set of seal ri gs sure beats a $700 chain cover.
    Yeah I did too I have an 05.5 with metal rings. I replaced with new composite ones. Works great

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    Sorry about the lack of details. I'll try to keep this concise. It's a long story, and I don't have a lot of mechanical knowledge.

    The car started running rough. A scan return only one code, which was a cylinder one misfire. I found a ton of oil on the plugs. I put a new coil on cylinder one, replaced all the spark plugs, replaced the valve cover gasket, and replaced the PCV.

    The car ran fine for about two months. One day I drove it and shut it down. I came back in about thirty minutes, and it would crank, but wouldn't start. I had the car towed to my house. I found Tim's Astral Auto Repair videos. Tim's video is where I discovered that I lost wasn't getting compression. My car was making the same very unique sound when cranking as in the video. First thing I did was test the HPFP, and it pushed about 80 PSI. Next a compression test, and it was bad cyl one = 20 pas // cyl two = 20 PSI // cyl three = 0 PSI // cyl four = 0 PSI . Next, I confirmed that the belt was intact, with good teeth, and was turning with the pulley. Next I confirmed the intake cam was turning, by looking through the oil fill neck. Confused, I started asking questions online and anywhere else I could. A few people told me the engine was gone. I had been talking to Tim @ Astral for a while, so he knew the backstory. I called him with the updates, and he advised I proceed with his video instructions.

    I won't list all of the rest, because I followed the instructions in the on Tim's Astral Auto video, which are the same OP. The only thing I found was that one of those adjuster/phaser rings was crack, but the entire ring was still sitting in its slot. I know the colored link doesn't indicate squat. I'm pretty sure I broke the pin on the adjuster, when removing it. I'm lost as to what happened.

    I'm tired of trying to figure this out, so today I'm putting on a new tensioner, a new cam follower, three new rings for inside the adjuster, a new cam adjuster bolt (surprisingly, I got the old adjust bolt out cleanly), and new seals/gaskets for all the stuff that came off. I have the AST cam alignment tool. On the adjuster, I drilled out the old pin and made a new one.

    I was hoping I could get away with using the old chain to see if it will run, once I've timed up the engine. If it runs, I'd get a new chain. After reading some of your responses, I wonder if I should get a new chain first.

    Iceman, I've been talking to you on another thread, but this one looked like a better place for the discussion.
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    Yeah I cant understand how everything is in good shape with belt and chain and it still has no compression.
    The clue is the sheared pin on the adjuster. Some thing catastrophic happened some how. Let us know how it goes.

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