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    Post Eaton TVS R1320 supercharger rebuild and slight porting, with Dyno

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    Figured I'd share my experience before too much time transpires and I forget the pain I had to go through during this journey.

    Specimen was a previously bone-stock 2013 S4 6MT bought at 87k miles that currently has 94k miles on it.

    Quick summary:
    Installed my stage 2 dual pulley setup, and upon initial start-up inspection noticed louder than normal "rock-tumbler" noise emitting from the rear of the supercharger. Taking the supercharger belt off and starting the engine back up caused the noise to cease. Some quick Google searches led me to suspect the rear needle-bearings, and so my mind was made up to replace or rebuild.
    • Audi wanted $2800 for a new unit, being how I was fresh out of warranty.
    • Used units are relatively cheap, but I risked running into the same issue and didn’t feel like transferring my pulley if I could avoid it. Also, I had just changed the front snout oil and knew that the condition of the supercharger was otherwise great.
    • After obtaining several quotes ranging from $800-1600 to rebuild with new rear needle-bearings, and after inquiring about pricing of porting the supercharger inlet and throttle body at the same time, I decided to take the job on myself to avoid the costs and reduce downtime of shipping the unit to and fro.


    Disclaimer:
    I have no prior experience with porting or rebuilding a supercharger so follow along at your own risk.


    Supercharger rear bearings and oil

    Parts list:
    Source - SuperchargersOnline
    2 x EATON BEARING GROUND OD HOUSING BEARING (EAT-101437) = $60.50
    1 x EATON SUPERCHARGER OIL BULK FILL 8 OZ (001-60550) = $24.00
    Total with Shipping $104.27

    Confirm with the part supplier of the bearings that they’re factory lubricated, otherwise you might need to source lubricant.

    And here are the extra parts if replacing the intercoolers.

    Source - VW Suburban Auto Parts
    Part Number Part Name Price Quantity Total
    Intercoolers L and R, 06E-145-621-R Cooler Assembly $184.78 2 $369.56
    Intercooler water pipe seals, 06E-121-119-D Washer $2.16 4 $8.64
    Intercooler end seals, 06E-145-723-E Cooler Assembly Seal $23.23 2 $46.46
    Throttle body seal, 06E-145-272-C Adapter Seal $11.63 2 23.26
    Bypass valve o-rings, N90521604 O-Ring $6.64 2 13.28

    Tools needed:
    • 13mm socket
    • 10mm socket
    • 16mm wrench to remove supercharger pulley belt
    • Assorted Torx (Including T30)
    • Anaerobic gasket sealer (Audi, GM, or Loctite 518)
    • 150ml supercharger oil (Audi part #G 070 000 A1, or Eaton Oil should be fine)



    Torque specs:

    • 20nm - 6 x Supercharger 13mm nuts
    • 10nm - 6 x Intercooler bolts
    • 5nm – 6 x waterpipe bolts
    • ??? - I used 8nm for the Throttle body and bypass valve bolts. Not sure if that’s correct.
    • 23-25nm – Supercharger snout bolts


    Start by removing the supercharger. ECSTuning has an excellent removal guide as part of their magnetic supercharger drain plug install…recommend just using that.

    http://bd8ba3c866c8cbc330ab-7b26c6f3...stallation.pdf

    Here’s a quick summary pic.
    20181120_230513.jpg

    Once the supercharger is off, it’s worthwhile to inspect the intake runners for carbon build-up and clean as necessary. It was at this point that I also noticed an intercooler leak entering into intake #3, prompting the replacement of both intercoolers.
    20190330_113149.jpg

    Remove all of the valves, sensors, and brackets to prevent damage during supercharger disassembly.

    Remove intercoolers using the steps below. Note that they’re extremely hard to remove from the casing without damaging due to the soft aluminum they’re made of. Be careful if hitting them with a rubber mallet…I thought I was being gentle with a deadblow and still managed to dent the end caps rendering them useless.



    1. Gasket
    [] Replace
    2. O-ring
    [] Replace
    [] Coat with engine oil when installing the charge air cooler
    3. O-ring
    [] Replace
    [] Coat with engine oil when installing the charge air cooler
    4. Supercharger Housing
    5. Gasket
    [] Replace
    6. Charge Air Cooler on the Right Side
    [] Removing and installing, refer to CHARGE AIR COOLER
    7. Bolt
    [] 10 Nm
    [] Replace
    [] Self-locking
    8. Gasket
    [] Not available individually
    [] May not be removed from the charge air cooler
    [] Coat with engine oil when installing the charge air cooler
    9. Bolt
    [] 10 Nm
    [] Replace
    [] Self-locking
    10. Left Charge Air Cooler
    [] Removing and installing, refer to CHARGE AIR COOLER
    11. Gasket
    [] Not available individually
    [] May not be removed from the charge air cooler
    [] Coat with engine oil when installing the charge air cooler

    Worth noting that all of the mating surfaces for the snout and rotor assembly as well as the rotor casings are precisely manufactured. Don’t use flat head screw drivers or anything else that can scratch the surfaces and be especially cautious when working inside by the rotor casing surfaces to avoid damage.

    The supercharger snout can now be drained and removed. I didn’t worry about the orientation of the supercharger coupler spring since it only seems to go in one way.


    Tough part #1:

    The supercharger rotors come out as one long assembly with the bearing plate and take quite a bit of effort to remove. Note that the sleeved portion of the bearing plate that inserts into the housing is shy of an inch long – meaning that the whole thing has to slide out quite a bit before you’ll see the rotors. I was able to take a dead blow hammer and tapped the assembly top and bottom to loosen up the sealant. However, progress was slow and I wound up removing the bypass valve duct at the back of the supercharger and sticking a wooden dowel between the rotors – gently hitting the bearing plate from the inside. This is what finally jostled things loose enough to stand the supercharger up on the back and slide the assembly straight up.

    20190330_230046.jpg

    Inspect the inside of the supercharger for scuffing on the end plate, bearing plate, and rotors themselves. I noticed what appeared to be scuffing on the back of the end plate, but couldn’t find matching damage on the rotor. Two things to note:
    • Scoring on the rear of the rotors and casing surface indicates excessive axial play dictated by the rear needle bearings. Thankfully, mine weren’t bad enough to cause interference, yet.
    • End plate scuffing is indicative of excessive thrust play from worn drive ball bearings. You’re on your own with this one.


    20190330_230556.jpg

    Tough part #2:
    When looking for pricing for a rebuild, one discouraging item was the $150+ cost thrown in just for the extraction of the needle bearings.

    A few things to note:
    • Different style needle bearings can be ‘pushed’ out by drilling and tapping the back of the housing for a grease fitting. This doesn’t apply for this design since the bearing is not cupped.
    • It’s easier if you break the birdcage out and remove the needle bearings so you can use a larger blind-hole puller
    • The factory blue grease contained in the bearings stains clothing / hands / etc



    Typical blind hole bearing puller sets don’t have enough weight behind them to force the bearing out. I’m a fairly strong guy and found myself unable to budge the damn things with PB Blaster, some light heat (not to warp anything), and over an hour of slamming on the slide hammer. The alternatives are to make a pilot bearing adapter / bolt plate to thread the bearings out (didn’t work for me) or to weld together something that has enough weight behind it – hence the picture of my shitty welded nuts to adapt the blind hole puller to my 1” slide hammer.

    I’m sure the professionals just use a machined plate of some sort and press the bearings out. Whatever options you use, just be extremely careful of the rotor casing surfaces as mentioned before. If you scratch the surface, you can probably use high-grit sandpaper to smooth things back out.

    20190404_220914.jpg

    On to the porting/polishing…

    I’d recommend studying pictures of other port jobs from the internet to get an idea on what you can focus on. Since things are so precise with the supercharger, personally I found myself very reluctant to do more than just a slight porting and blending leading through the inlet and into the rotors. This part is totally up to you and what your comfort level is like.

    $23 worth of harbor freight drum sanding and polishing materials later, I was grinding away at the supercharger inlet and removing casting marks leading into the rotor area. I’m not sure how much material is safe to remove, but as far as the immediate inlet portion the majority of aluminum was ground off 12-2 o’clock position and 5 o’clock position if looking straight in.

    20190404_223655.jpg

    The other area that seemed to get a lot of focus was the slight ledge leading into the rotors as well as the material by the PCV breather hole.

    20190404_230505.jpg

    Smoothing out the V-shaped outlet leading into the runners probably isn’t a bad idea. I didn’t port this – just ground down enough to help with the transition.

    Deburring the runners down to the outlets (where the intercoolers sit) and smoothing the transition from the inside of the outlet probably isn’t a bad idea.

    I also wound up porting the throttle body as well - just be careful not to thin out the bore too much, and also avoid disrupting the sealing area around where the throttle plate seats otherwise idle issues can occur.

    Once you’re satisfied with the porting, clean the supercharger housing thoroughly with soap/water/air pressure and remove all remnants of the sealant from the mating surfaces. Avoid brake clean as I found it to be corrosive to the housing paint. Chase/clean the threads in the housing.

    Inserting the bearings wasn’t nearly as bad as removal, and the whole process was expedited by throwing them in the freezer for a couple of hours and putting light oil on the outside of the bearing leading up to the install. If you want to cause people to cringe, you can gently hammer the bearings in with a bearing/seal installer OR if you’re a pro the better option is to machine press them in.

    Make sure to depress the bearings slightly (.003”?) so that they don’t contact the rotors!

    I wound up knocking one of the needle bearings out during the process – they’re press-fit in the birdcage and didn’t take much effort to loosen. If this happens just snap it back in and inspect the bird-cage for damage…you’re probably fine.

    Sealing things back up is the same process as disassembly. Don’t get too crazy with the anaerobic sealant – however, the nice thing about this choice is it never dries if exposed to air and thus the excess can be wiped away at any point.

    20190406_151523.jpg

    Bolt the snout on in a criss-cross fashion starting with the inside bolts.

    20190406_152204.jpg

    I used a “meat flavor injector” from wally world to measure and inject the 150ml of oil into the snout of the supercharger. Make sure you don’t exceed the recommended volume as this can cause pressure to push oil past the seals – forcing you to rebuild/reseal again.

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    Lubricate the new intercooler seals and the length of rubber that the intercoolers use to guide into the runner area. Don’t hammer these things or use the bolts to pull them in – you can just slap them with your palm to seat them into place.

    20190412_170814.jpg

    Clean your intake runners leading into your engine if you didn’t already, replace the supercharger inlet gaskets and PCV outlet o-rings if they’re not new, and then plop the supercharger back into place. Put on belt, valves, inlet tube, etc.

    Top off and bleed coolant using the bleed screws on the back of the intercoolers.

    Clear your throttle adaptations and other adaptation values in your ECU.

    Start your engine and pray for no sounds or other weirdness. :)

    With this work and an IE Stage 2 Dual Pulley the engine hit 22psi peak boost. I’ll be dynoing the car soon and will update with those numbers and log results once obtained.


    Initial Observations - 4/15/2019
    • No more rock tumbler noise towards the back of the supercharger.
    • Throttle response appears better, but could be placebo.
    • Idle appeared rough during adaptation, but after 100+ miles the engine roughness has balanced out
    • And one very welcome mention - since getting the car I constantly complained about 'jumpiness' in the transition from stationary idle to 1st gear. Prior research led me to believe this to be the typical anti-stall interference commonly griped about with S5 owners, of which there's no apparent fix. It certainly was aggravating when driving in congestion - and reminded me of my old BMW E39 530I when the VANOS was acting up - however, since the porting the Audi has seemingly lost this undesirable characteristic. Take-off is now buttery smooth, and overall rowing between the gears feels as if it requires less attention to pedal input.
      Before anyone else gets excited, there are a couple of things that come to mind that could have resolved this issue for me:
      -Although all of the seals and gaskets replaced looked to be in good shape, it's possible one was leaking
      -Adaptation values were reset previously upon reflash, but I performed a full Throttle Adaptation learn cycle for the first time. This was supposedly completed by Audi during the car's last visit, but who know.



    Overall, I've experienced no ill-effects and looking forward to seeing what numbers the engine can produce.

    UPDATE and RESULTS - 07/18/2019

    Finally...FINALLY got the car dyno'd after numerous cancelled appointments and getting kicked off for camber wear, a missing lug, and the inability to strap the rear arms down (three separate sessions). Oh and I had my first kid which also delayed things quite a bit.

    Anyway.

    • Intergrated Engineering Stage 2 Dual Pulley, 93 Octane map
    • Forge Supercharger pulley
    • CTS Turbo 187mm Crankshaft pulley
    • CTS Turbo Heat Exchanger
    • CTS Turbo Intake
    • Carbon cleaning
    • Supercharger porting
    • Dynamic mode with Stability Control OFF
    • ~90F ambient temps at 250' above sea level


    412WHP @ 6100RPM and 20PSI

    Shame I didn't get to dyno during the cooler weather since I was looking forward to more average numbers based on my location - in NY where it's cold 9 months out of the year. Also, lots of speculation about drivetrain loss which I won't get into, but the tuner suggested to use 19% for Quattro based on his experience. That puts the engine output at around 490HP, both of which are slightly higher than what IE advertises for this setup (388WHP according to their website.)

    VinnyTen_dyno.jpg
    IE_Stage2_93.jpg

    What's interesting is that the dyno curve also closely resembles what IE maps out.

    And the video evidence:
    2013 Audi S4 B8.5 Integrated Engineering (IE) Stage 2 Dual Pulley, 93 Octane (YOUTUBE)

    Now the question begging to be answered - where did the ~24WHP gain come from? I'd love to say it's my supercharger porting handy-work, but I quite simply didn't have the time or money to have taken a before and after ($170 for 3 pulls). Let's just say that I'm delighted to have not caused obvious damage to the performance of the car by wielding my Dremel tool. Oh, that and the car screams like a mother which brings an irresistible smile to my face pretty much every time I drive it.
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    Awesome write up!! Thank you for sharing!!

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    Definitely want to be updated on this one


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    Great info , thanks man. . Well done .

    * should b sticky under DIY (disassemble/repair Supercharger )


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    Dyno session slated for next Monday (04/22/2019) - hopefully all goes well in the interim and I can keep it.

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    I just did this same thing with a spare blower i picked up a few weeks ago. Im very happy with the results, didnt port because i wasnt comfortable taking away material but i did polish it and try to make it as smooth as possible.
    Great write up

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    BadDesign: Excellent write up. I am about to embark on the same endeavour in the next few weeks. Thanks for all the excellent info.

    To the rest: So... who self ported their blowers? I want to know who cut stuff and where. Has anyone 'over done' it? I've been searching and other than taking out the lower support 'fin' all together (which caused warping and failure) has anyone holed it or made a mess of things? I'm trying to learn here to see if its worth sending my blower away vs doing it on my own.

    Does anyone know the mythical '4 spots' that Jokerz talked about to cut?

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    Any one follow this? Did you regret doing it and not hiring? I’m about to attempt it I think.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BadDesign View Post
    Dyno session slated for next Monday (04/22/2019) - hopefully all goes well in the interim and I can keep it.
    Any updates on the dyno session?


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    Car must have blown up


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    Quote Originally Posted by Whitee View Post
    Car must have blown up


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    Hah - nah, she's alive and kicking.

    First Dyno session got cancelled because Dyno operator was sick.
    And yesterday they weren't able to secure the car on the Dyno with the straps they had on hand....sucks.

    Rescheduled for next Friday. Getting antsy.

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    Great write up! Certainly helped, only took me about 2 hours from removing SC belt to this.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SeniorCypress80 View Post
    Great write up! Certainly helped, only took me about 2 hours from removing SC belt to this.


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    Nice dude :)

    Not so bad - right? Are you going to port yourself or send out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BadDesign View Post
    Nice dude :)

    Not so bad - right? Are you going to port yourself or send out?
    I also found your write up very helpful and have taken apart a spare blower this week. I went a little further and pressed the shaft from the snout and the bearing out of the snout casing. Here are some pics of the insides of the snout. IMG_20190430_173118.jpegIMG_20190430_173054.jpegIMG_20190430_174437.jpegIMG_20190430_173027.jpeg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monkeyshok View Post
    I also found your write up very helpful and have taken apart a spare blower this week. I went a little further and pressed the shaft from the snout and the bearing out of the snout casing. Here are some pics of the insides of the snout.
    Awesome. If I didn't struggle so much with my pulley then that would have been an extra precaution for sure. Did you order new bearings? If so let me know the details and I'll toss in the original post.

    Oh, and the Superchargersonline guys were great to deal with if you still need parts. Def recommended. Owner was cool to chat with as well.

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    Eaton TVS R1320 supercharger rebuild and slight porting

    Not done just yet but here’s where I left off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeniorCypress80 View Post
    Not done just yet but here’s where I left off.

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    Looks great so far.

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    Here is mine. Not the most polished but I will be putting it in this weekend. 20190422_162239.jpeg

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdelmonico View Post
    Here is mine. Not the most polished but I will be putting it in this weekend. 20190422_162239.jpeg

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    You will most likely lose power with this port.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Whitee View Post
    You will most likely lose power with this port.
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    Forgive the dumb question.... as someone with no experience in this but trying to learn... why is this a bad port?

    Can you explain?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whitee View Post
    You will most likely lose power with this port.


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    Why is that ?

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    I'm not sure about " losing power " but from what Iv done so far, I would give those casting marks a lot more attention as well as the bottom of the barrels entering the rotors. Also your able to take a TON of the top of the TB opening if you haven't already . I ran out of fine grit wheels and cones but ill post my final in the next couple days. I spent a TON more time even after the pictures i posted above finding " thick " areas I could safely open more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeniorCypress80 View Post
    I'm not sure about " losing power " but from what Iv done so far, I would give those casting marks a lot more attention as well as the bottom of the barrels entering the rotors. Also your able to take a TON of the top of the TB opening if you haven't already . I ran out of fine grit wheels and cones but ill post my final in the next couple days. I spent a TON more time even after the pictures i posted above finding " thick " areas I could safely open more.
    Yes , agreed I planned on working to cleaning it up more and smooth it out.

    Thank you

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    You wont loose power with what you have done here.
    Spend alot of time smoothing rough casting spots
    And spots that the air looks like it will get hung up on.
    DONT touch the milled center part of the charger that houses the rotors also.
    Keep those bearings covered really good with the tin tape also
    3 or 4 layers
    Dont want any debris getting in there at all.
    Looks good though brotha

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    Quote Originally Posted by s4matty View Post
    You wont loose power with what you have done here.
    Spend alot of time smoothing rough casting spots
    And spots that the air looks like it will get hung up on.
    DONT touch the milled center part of the charger that houses the rotors also.
    Keep those bearings covered really good with the tin tape also
    3 or 4 layers
    Dont want any debris getting in there at all.
    Looks good though brotha

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    Thanks, will do . I did clean it up some last night. Going to do more now!

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    Looks really good. I haven't had time to start on mine yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeniorCypress80 View Post
    Finals on #2

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    That looks really good man - and far better than what I did.

    Also, I've been kicked out of 3 Dyno sessions.

    -Incorrect Dyno straps
    -One lug was missing from a wheel (goddamn Mavis)
    -Rear driver tire alignment caused inner wear and Dyno operator didn't want to risk pulling to 150mph+.

    So disappointed. But, will make sure to update this thread whenever I get the results...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BadDesign View Post
    Congrats on the new child, as well as getting this finished up! Have you done any logs yet?


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    Quote Originally Posted by SeniorCypress80 View Post
    Congrats on the new child, as well as getting this finished up! Have you done any logs yet?


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    Thanks man.

    I did try recording a log during the Dyno pulls, but for whatever reason they were all corrupt. I can try to recapture.

    Should I be looking for anything in particular?

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    I would see what your IATs are. I’m realizing now I should have been watching those long ago. I’m not able the fully utilize all my hardware due to heat. Even with Merc HX I cant seem to keep my temps low enough to keep timing by 3rd gear or for a full 3rd gear pull. I also didn’t realize IE 93 file was that low. I don’t see it advertised on there website anymore with the drop down for all fuel graphs.

    I recently got an aeroforce gauge to monitor it and found out my cars been pulling timing like crazy. I received my meth kit today so we will see what that will do to help the situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeniorCypress80 View Post
    I would see what your IATs are. I’m realizing now I should have been watching those long ago. I’m not able the fully utilize all my hardware due to heat. Even with Merc HX I cant seem to keep my temps low enough to keep timing by 3rd gear or for a full 3rd gear pull. I also didn’t realize IE 93 file was that low. I don’t see it advertised on there website anymore with the drop down for all fuel graphs.

    I recently got an aeroforce gauge to monitor it and found out my cars been pulling timing like crazy. I received my meth kit today so we will see what that will do to help the situation.
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    Do you still have cats? Removing them would help with heat

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    2 Questions on this - do i need to replace the needle bearings if i'm just going to do a port job and cover them in tin tape?

    Has anyone used non-oem HX cores? Like hella for example?

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    Hey man.

    1. You don't have to replace the needle bearings. Just make sure to cover them in tape like you mentioned to protect them.

    2. The OEM parts I got were Behr and reasonably priced. Did the research to find alternatives...not saving much, and the risk of soft cores that will leak again didn't seem worth it. Lucked out that the hole was small and leak subsequently slow which only caused some coolant buildup in the back of my nice and clean valves. Worst case, you can have a burst which would flood a cylinder and theoretically can hydro lock the block. Of course, that's me just being paranoid.

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    Can’t be worse than my current situation - SC is full of oil as well from blow-back, so it needs to be cleaned, ported, and new cores installed


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    Wtf happened man?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BadDesign View Post
    Wtf happened man?
    Audi said overheat - cylinder head is over 100 Brinell - potentially foreign object ingress, but won’t know til i get the bottom end apart.

    It blew oil all through the SC cores, so they are toast, might as well port the unit whilst I service it.


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