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    I'm going to apologize for the long post ahead of time, but wanted to include as much info as I could.

    For those that just want the short version and then scroll through the pictures, light output is great, paint job came out nicely and matches the rest of the BO package pretty well. I had previously updated the lights with a kit from EMTuning (in the UK) which was probably about 80% of the light output of this kit so that actually is a good option for those looking for more light output with a lot less effort.

    As far as parts go, I picked up this kit for theretrofitsource.com https://www.theretrofitsource.com/mo...-bi-xenon.html. The brackets for this kit won't work because Valeo decided to mount these different than most of the other European models, so the one's you want are actually for a 14-18 GMC Sierra. A couple of notes on things you will need:

    1. Get new ballasts, the stock D1S ballast will not power the D2S bulb in the new projector. I got the XB55 ballasts from Morimoto. Note that these will also come with the D2S igniters, which juuuust clear the door that seals the light.
    2. New bulbs, I prefer the CBIs, I am trying the Morimotos because they were sold out, but might switch back, just need to give them some run time and see.
    3. Order a 9006 female pigtail, the stock solenoid connector is Valeo proprietary so needs to be cut and the 9006 spliced in, which will mate to the new projector solenoid.
    4. You will either need to find a connector that connects to the stock ballast input power connector, or get another 9006 and cut/splice again. You will also need the right sized rubber grommet to seal the hole in the housing. Since I had the EMTuning kit before, I was able to just reuse that part.
    5. Various hardware. Mainly you will use M4x.70 at various lengths, some will come with the kit, but I ended up needing some nylon spacers, etc. as described below.
    6. I bought a polycarbonate sheet and made mounting brackets for the ballast in the stock location. This will be up to however you want to mount it.
    7. Butyl sealant to put everything back together.

    I don't have pictures of taking the lights apart, but suffice it to say they it's a big pain in the nuts. Start on the bottom of the lights and work your way around. Mine probably were in the oven 4 or 5 times, 240 degrees for 20 minutes. I got a spare set of lights to work on since it took some time and needed the car still. I would even suggest getting a busted one for cheap on ebay just to practice opening one. The second went a lot better than the first. The permaseal crumbles and makes a mess so make sure to clean the channel out well, and be prepared to make some repairs to the outside of the channel. You need to get to the back of the channel to break the seal and there are some special tools out there to do that and make it easier.

    Once the lights were apart, I separated the lens from everything and painted the shroud around the acrylic tube. Be VERY careful and take your time as some parts are pretty thin and there are a number of tabs to work simultaneously to remove it. I was going to just paint the back of the reflector to give it a smoked look, but I didn't tape the front off like I should have and got some overspray on it, so just did the whole thing.







    The next part was to mount the new projector, buy a dremel if you don't have one. There are tabs on the housing for aligning the old projector, they need to be filed off.



    You also need to clearance the rest of the mounting bracket in the housing to clear the hardware/projector itself. The cross piece along the top/bottom, and one of the ribs on the side need to get done to fit everything.



    For the projector mounting bracket, I had to go add some nylon spacers to cleat the projector hardware as seen here.





    Once that was together, it was really just test fitting and then using the butyl to put it back together. Pardon that the lens is a little dirty.







    Everything should pretty much swap over to the other light if you got a spare, I cut the polycarbonate sheet to the right shape and mounted the new ballast to the stock location. The D2S igniters also have a silicone grommet, if you drill a hole right over the high voltage symbol, it fits nicely. I could only get two mounting bolts for each ballast, and then one of the mounting points sits on the housing, it's still very secure and isn't going to move. I used nylock nuts for everything so they wouldn't vibrate out.





    Last piece is to install on the car and aim them. Pull the bumper off, remove the screws for the tray and headlight, and wiggle it in a variety of incovenient ways until it comes free. Way better to have another pair of hands for the job if you can. This helps when putting everything back in to align them in the right spot on the bumper and everything.

    Not sure if I would do it again, I really like the results, but it was a huge pain opening up the lights and then having to make the plastic repairs. It was a fun project, but for about the same cost as the projector kit, you can get really good output with the EMTuning kit (probably even a little better with e-code lights since the lens is clearer.

    Lastly, no, the headlights don't project the audi rings out onto the road like the bat signal, and it doesn't have any appreciable impact on light output. If anyone has any questions let me know, but figured I would at least share in case anyone was interested. I can try and get some better pictures later as well, these are just from my phone and the glare makes it a little hard to see some times.









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    This is amazing👏 Great write up as well. The pictures are super sharp what camera you are using?
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    Very nice, I just bought a set of e-codes and now I want to do this to them!
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    Very cool. Would love to see output / cutoff pics.

    Just to clarify, the stock bulb is D3S (not D1S) and the stock ballast is 35w. The 35w ballast is fine to power any 35w bulb (CBI, etc) but you chose to select a higher powered 55w ballast. Which should certainly be brighter.
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    These turned out great hopefully you can make it out to one of the local meets to see them in person


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    Quote Originally Posted by PNW Avant View Post
    Very cool. Would love to see output / cutoff pics.

    Just to clarify, the stock bulb is D3S (not D1S) and the stock ballast is 35w. The 35w ballast is fine to power any 35w bulb (CBI, etc) but you chose to select a higher powered 55w ballast. Which should certainly be brighter.
    Yeah, I should have clarified, before I did this, I swapped the D3S system to a D1S and 55w ballast. I meant to say the stock D3S ballast won't provide enough power for the D1 or D2 (Mercury containing) bulbs. Agree that any bulb of the right type will work with the stock system.

    I really wanted a clear lense and better optics (the stock projector is actually not bad after comparison). It was still nice project though and got to learn a bunch in the process.

    I will find some time to get some output pictures, maybe in the next day or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZTT13 View Post
    These turned out great hopefully you can make it out to one of the local meets to see them in person


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    Thanks man, I would love to make it out and see all the local cars, and appreciate the help during the process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SQ5/2018 View Post
    This is amazing Great write up as well. The pictures are super sharp what camera you are using?
    Thanks man, the pictures were all taken just with my Pixel 3 phone. They really do come out nicely and the night sight feature is great for low light and under the hood stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elijahallen View Post
    Very nice, I just bought a set of e-codes and now I want to do this to them!
    Definitely compliments the rest of the black trim. Honestly as much as I try to do everything myself, if I were to do it again, I'd probably send them to someplace like lightwerkz (who have awesome service) just to open them up and then do the rest on my own. Should be less to fix or reshape on the back end.

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    Great work man, a buddy owns a local headlight retrofit called Circuit Demon that does similar work and it always amazes me how custom some of the headlights can get.
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    I know you said you don’t want to do this again but..... what’s your address so I can send you my headlights and how much?


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    Quote Originally Posted by EvoToSQ5 View Post
    I know you said you don’t want to do this again but..... what’s your address so I can send you my headlights and how much?


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    Haha the worst part was opening them. If I were to do it again, I'd probably send them to be opened by a shop and then do the rest myself. It would be well worth the couple hundred bucks.

    I'd need to wait for my wife to forget about the headlight parts taking over our dining room before I undertook this job again!

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    Did some aiming and reset the range zero for the headlight levelers with VCDS. These are just a few shots from about 25' back from the wall I was aiming with and then a couple of shots I took just stoppng quick on the road (didn't want to stop for too long...). But should give a good idea of the cutoff and color flicker. Mentioned I am trying the Moritmoto bulbs, but could probably get a little more output with something from Osram or Philips, but likely not a whole lot. The pictures don't really do the high beam justice and the width is very nice. The more I've driven around with them, the more I appreciate them.

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    Looks awesome!
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    Cutoff looks good but the beam doesnt seem like its a huge improvement over stock. I used to do retrofits before I could afford cars with factory hid's. I have been tempted to swap the stock lens with a clear one but really dont like tearing into lights with permaseal. It's the worst thing about retrofits. If I could find a spare set of lights cheap I would definitely tear into them. They do look good and respect for getting the job done. It's a lot of work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billm0066 View Post
    Cutoff looks good but the beam doesnt seem like its a huge improvement over stock. I used to do retrofits before I could afford cars with factory hid's. I have been tempted to swap the stock lens with a clear one but really dont like tearing into lights with permaseal. It's the worst thing about retrofits. If I could find a spare set of lights cheap I would definitely tear into them. They do look good and respect for getting the job done. It's a lot of work.
    This is a huge improvement, phone pictures never do it justice and the fact that its very noticeable is a good sign it made a big difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by billm0066 View Post
    Cutoff looks good but the beam doesnt seem like its a huge improvement over stock. I used to do retrofits before I could afford cars with factory hid's. I have been tempted to swap the stock lens with a clear one but really dont like tearing into lights with permaseal. It's the worst thing about retrofits. If I could find a spare set of lights cheap I would definitely tear into them. They do look good and respect for getting the job done. It's a lot of work.
    It is hard to get good pictures, but there is a noticeable difference. You could probably get better results (especially width) with something like the FX-R projector, but that would have been more fabrication than I was looking to do. I also wonder if the projector doesn't sit a little too far back in the housing and the shroud is clipping some of the width. It sits right around the same spot as the stock one, but the lense is a different shape so will project differently.

    This was part of the reason that if you weren't looking for the cosmetic aspect, changing to a 55w system yields nice results with minimal effort.

    I'll try and get some more pictures sometime with the DSLR soon, but I was getting tired of being out in the cold/snow.

    Appreciate everyone's input and maybe it'll help out someone else with a project in the future.



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    Quote Originally Posted by djn876 View Post
    I'm going to apologize for the long post ahead of time, but wanted to include as much info as I could.

    For those that just want the short version and then scroll through the pictures, light output is great, paint job came out nicely and matches the rest of the BO package pretty well. I had previously updated the lights with a kit from EMTuning (in the UK) which was probably about 80% of the light output of this kit so that actually is a good option for those looking for more light output with a lot less effort.

    As far as parts go, I picked up this kit for theretrofitsource.com https://www.theretrofitsource.com/mo...-bi-xenon.html. The brackets for this kit won't work because Valeo decided to mount these different than most of the other European models, so the one's you want are actually for a 14-18 GMC Sierra. A couple of notes on things you will need:

    1. Get new ballasts, the stock D1S ballast will not power the D2S bulb in the new projector. I got the XB55 ballasts from Morimoto. Note that these will also come with the D2S igniters, which juuuust clear the door that seals the light.
    2. New bulbs, I prefer the CBIs, I am trying the Morimotos because they were sold out, but might switch back, just need to give them some run time and see.
    3. Order a 9006 female pigtail, the stock solenoid connector is Valeo proprietary so needs to be cut and the 9006 spliced in, which will mate to the new projector solenoid.
    4. You will either need to find a connector that connects to the stock ballast input power connector, or get another 9006 and cut/splice again. You will also need the right sized rubber grommet to seal the hole in the housing. Since I had the EMTuning kit before, I was able to just reuse that part.
    5. Various hardware. Mainly you will use M4x.70 at various lengths, some will come with the kit, but I ended up needing some nylon spacers, etc. as described below.
    6. I bought a polycarbonate sheet and made mounting brackets for the ballast in the stock location. This will be up to however you want to mount it.
    7. Butyl sealant to put everything back together.

    I don't have pictures of taking the lights apart, but suffice it to say they it's a big pain in the nuts. Start on the bottom of the lights and work your way around. Mine probably were in the oven 4 or 5 times, 240 degrees for 20 minutes. I got a spare set of lights to work on since it took some time and needed the car still. I would even suggest getting a busted one for cheap on ebay just to practice opening one. The second went a lot better than the first. The permaseal crumbles and makes a mess so make sure to clean the channel out well, and be prepared to make some repairs to the outside of the channel. You need to get to the back of the channel to break the seal and there are some special tools out there to do that and make it easier.

    Once the lights were apart, I separated the lens from everything and painted the shroud around the acrylic tube. Be VERY careful and take your time as some parts are pretty thin and there are a number of tabs to work simultaneously to remove it. I was going to just paint the back of the reflector to give it a smoked look, but I didn't tape the front off like I should have and got some overspray on it, so just did the whole thing.







    The next part was to mount the new projector, buy a dremel if you don't have one. There are tabs on the housing for aligning the old projector, they need to be filed off.



    You also need to clearance the rest of the mounting bracket in the housing to clear the hardware/projector itself. The cross piece along the top/bottom, and one of the ribs on the side need to get done to fit everything.



    For the projector mounting bracket, I had to go add some nylon spacers to cleat the projector hardware as seen here.





    Once that was together, it was really just test fitting and then using the butyl to put it back together. Pardon that the lens is a little dirty.







    Everything should pretty much swap over to the other light if you got a spare, I cut the polycarbonate sheet to the right shape and mounted the new ballast to the stock location. The D2S igniters also have a silicone grommet, if you drill a hole right over the high voltage symbol, it fits nicely. I could only get two mounting bolts for each ballast, and then one of the mounting points sits on the housing, it's still very secure and isn't going to move. I used nylock nuts for everything so they wouldn't vibrate out.





    Last piece is to install on the car and aim them. Pull the bumper off, remove the screws for the tray and headlight, and wiggle it in a variety of incovenient ways until it comes free. Way better to have another pair of hands for the job if you can. This helps when putting everything back in to align them in the right spot on the bumper and everything.

    Not sure if I would do it again, I really like the results, but it was a huge pain opening up the lights and then having to make the plastic repairs. It was a fun project, but for about the same cost as the projector kit, you can get really good output with the EMTuning kit (probably even a little better with e-code lights since the lens is clearer.

    Lastly, no, the headlights don't project the audi rings out onto the road like the bat signal, and it doesn't have any appreciable impact on light output. If anyone has any questions let me know, but figured I would at least share in case anyone was interested. I can try and get some better pictures later as well, these are just from my phone and the glare makes it a little hard to see some times.










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