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    Veteran Member Four Rings Morritse's Avatar
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    B8/8.5 S4 unique problems and symptoms megathread

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    I think it would be a good idea to address the common problems that are rather obscure and unique to our cars.

    The motivation behind this thread is seeing repeated posts about the same issues over and over.
    The goal is to provide an index of the most common problems, how to effectively diagnose and differentiate between them, and offer advice on how to remedy them

    For now, I want to generate a list of the problems we have, and later I can elaborate on their symptoms and solutions. Please help me add to the list!

    Things that are somewhat ubiquitous among all engine I don't want to include (spark plugs etc.)

    FORMAT:
    will be grouped by symptoms, causes will be listed below. Since causes will be repeated, causes will be listed below the list along with in depth descriptions, further diagnostics, and solutions.


    Common Symptoms


    clunking especially at low speeds and over bumps
    Torn control arm bushings

    misfires and decreased performance
    Catalytic converter failure
    Supercharger IC failure/leak

    coolant loss
    Supercharger IC failure/leak
    PCV failure
    Thermostat failure
    Water pump failure
    Crossover pipe leak
    Coolant reservoir cap failure

    Overheating issues
    Thermostat failure
    Water pump failure

    B8.5 Electric Steering issues: Notchy and vague steering input/output, wandering on road
    Faulty steering rack
    Faulty intermediate shaft
    Electronic issues


    Diagnosing and repairing common problems



    PCV failure
    • coolant loss at an increasing rate, usually invisible and undetectable by pressure test
    • coolant in oil
    • excessive steam in exhaust
    • milkshake under oil cap
    • Suction through oil fill cap
    • rough start especially after car rests for short periods after driving
    PCV failure Resource https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...t?usp=drivesdk


    IC failure
    • coolant loss
    • misfires in cylinder 3 and/or 6
    • rough starts
    • fouling of spark plug 3/6
    IC failure resource https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing


    Catalytic converter failure
    • Change in exhaust tone (usually muffled and deepened)
    • misfires in cylinders of one bank (corresponding to the side of failed CAT) especially under high loads
    • white residue around exhaust exists
    • loss in power
    • possible catalytic converter codes
    Catalytic converter resource: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...t?usp=drivesdk


    Thermostat failure
    • engine overheating
    • fans running when engine off or running excessively hard all the time


    Water pump failure
    Control arm bushings failure
    Wheel bearing failure
    Crank pulley failure
    Last edited by Morritse; 02-09-2019 at 11:15 AM.
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    B8.5 Electric Steering issues: Notchy and vague steering input/output, wandering on road
    Fixes: Replace/recalibrate faulty steering rack, replace failed intermediate shaft, disable DSR with VAGCOM
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brother Owl View Post
    B8.5 Electric Steering issues: Notchy and vague steering input/output, wandering on road
    Fixes: Replace/recalibrate faulty steering rack, replace failed intermediate shaft, disable DSR with VAGCOM
    I'll add stuff like this as it's posted!
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    Will this include the rattling at cold start sort of problems?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowmonkey View Post
    Will this include the rattling at cold start sort of problems?
    Yes. The timing chain guide thing should be here. If you want to add some info feel free to and I'll add it to post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morritse View Post
    Yes. The timing chain guide thing should be here. If you want to add some info feel free to and I'll add it to post
    Ill let someone more familiar with the problem, as Im still trying to figure it out myself
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    Senior Member Three Rings
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    Subscribed. I like threads like this. Specifically interested in cat diagnosis and fixes. I've got a feeling I'll be going down that road soon...

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    Veteran Member Four Rings Morritse's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnson View Post
    Subscribed. I like threads like this. Specifically interested in cat diagnosis and fixes. I've got a feeling I'll be going down that road soon...

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    I added a cat resource Google docs.

    Everything is living, and will be added to as I have time and get more info :)
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    doing my thermostat this weekend ..should be fun
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brother Owl View Post
    B8.5 Electric Steering issues: Notchy and vague steering input/output, wandering on road
    Fixes: Replace/recalibrate faulty steering rack, replace failed intermediate shaft, disable DSR with VAGCOM
    are you sure replacing the rack will fix it? I would love to have this fixed. But since the rack costs $1700 I want to know for sure before I do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wangshuo1989 View Post
    are you sure replacing the rack will fix it? I would love to have this fixed. But since the rack costs $1700 I want to know for sure before I do it.
    In my case they replaced the failed intermediate shaft - probably a cheaper fix. You might want to start there. I have heard of other owners replacing the entire rack but that may have been due to other issues (e.g. worn/broken teeth in the steering gear)
    But man I am EXTREMELY pleased it's finally fixed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brother Owl View Post
    In my case they replaced the failed intermediate shaft - probably a cheaper fix. You might want to start there. I have heard of other owners replacing the entire rack but that may have been due to other issues (e.g. worn/broken teeth in the steering gear)
    But man I am EXTREMELY pleased it's finally fixed!
    I'm not familiar with the b8.5 specific problems, for obvious reasons :p

    Does someone here want to create a list in a similar fashion for the steering problems as well as a similar Google doc so I can add it to the list?
    FBO B8. ~ 10.95@126 ~ 2.96s 0-60 ~ full weight street tires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brother Owl View Post
    In my case they replaced the failed intermediate shaft - probably a cheaper fix. You might want to start there. I have heard of other owners replacing the entire rack but that may have been due to other issues (e.g. worn/broken teeth in the steering gear)
    But man I am EXTREMELY pleased it's finally fixed!
    Thanks for the info, I'll contact my local shop to have them look at then
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    man... thanks for the info on this. Have had a rattling cat at start up. and a semi misfire feel for a couple of days now, but no misfire codes other than the p0420. I will be replacing cat to see if that brings the idle back to normal!
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    Wow, what a great guide with great potential to grow as we determine more quirks. Any chance for a sticky?
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