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    Senior Member Two Rings dcohen5's Avatar
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    8V Anti Sway Bars

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    I am looking into possibly getting a set of Anti Sway Bars. Anyone that has them, do you see a drastic difference in cornering and handling as a whole? I have H&R Sport springs and I looking to add to them...

    Any feedback +/- and brands would be appreciated!

    Thanks!
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    Several good ones. I tend to prefer 034. I wouldn't do the front bar as a front bar will make it understeer more, and that's the last thing these cars need!
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    Veteran Member Three Rings Chaoscreature's Avatar
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    OP,

    I have the 034 Rear sway bar as well and am pleased with it, I really like the greasable aluminum mounts 034 provides with their kit, but there are plenty of options available.
    APR and Neuspeed use a larger OD, hollow bar which is a good thing, but they don't come with the fancy new mounts and cost more.

    As far as the front sway bar goes, it comes down to what you are looking for from the car. If you don't know what understeer is and just want to make the car feel firmer, the front sway bar will make the car feel more responsive. As Spinnetti mentioned, the FSB will increase the vehicles tendency to understeer... but that's okay (and probably preferable) for most drivers.

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    Senior Member Two Rings dcohen5's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaoscreature View Post
    OP,

    I have the 034 Rear sway bar as well and am pleased with it, I really like the greasable aluminum mounts 034 provides with their kit, but there are plenty of options available.
    APR and Neuspeed use a larger OD, hollow bar which is a good thing, but they don't come with the fancy new mounts and cost more.

    As far as the front sway bar goes, it comes down to what you are looking for from the car. If you don't know what understeer is and just want to make the car feel firmer, the front sway bar will make the car feel more responsive. As Spinnetti mentioned, the FSB will increase the vehicles tendency to understeer... but that's okay (and probably preferable) for most drivers.
    Thanks for the details, as for the front sway bar, I do not track my car, but I go on spirited drives, weekend rallies and daily drive it. Do you think the under steer will ever come into play with my type of driving? (I am not hitting corners at a track in time attack)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spinnetti View Post
    Several good ones. I tend to prefer 034. I wouldn't do the front bar as a front bar will make it understeer more, and that's the last thing these cars need!
    thank you!
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    Veteran Member Four Rings TCHUN003's Avatar
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    I noticed a significant difference with my 034 RSW in the stiffest setting. I even noticed it in day to day driving taking long turns on the freeway. One of the best bang for the buck mods besides tuning.
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    8V Anti Sway Bars

    I’ve done the rear sway bar on all my fast Audi’s (RS4, S4, S5 and my current S3). Other than the driver and tires, this made the most noticeable handling difference. It doesn’t make the car turn in harder, but makes the car turn sharper once it’s weight loaded.

    I’d recommend doing only the rear first. If you still want more initial turn in feeling, upgrade the front then (at the expense of understeer and overall street driving fun).

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    I picked up a set of H&R sways and super sport springs from Jon Stuver here on the forums. Looking to throw everything today in a few days so that’ll be a way different driving machine.

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    Veteran Member Three Rings Chaoscreature's Avatar
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    Do you think the under steer will ever come into play with my type of driving? (I am not hitting corners at a track in time attack)
    The fact that you said this tells me: No, it won't come into play.
    Unless you are absolutely driving the piss out of your car (and I don't mean your standard Fun Run), you shouldn't be getting too near the traction limits of the car. Adding a rear sway bar along with the front will keep the car biased towards under-steer and would be my recommendation.
    Basically, what this means is if you screw up and go too fast into a corner, you will go off the road forwards rather then backwards. This is the safer of the two options and the reason why pretty much all cars are designed to understeer from the factory.

    Walter Rohrl (famous racing driver) was quoted saying "When you see the tree you're going to hit, that's called understeer. If you can only hear and feel it, it's oversteer".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaoscreature View Post
    The fact that you said this tells me: No, it won't come into play.
    Unless you are absolutely driving the piss out of your car (and I don't mean your standard Fun Run), you shouldn't be getting too near the traction limits of the car. Adding a rear sway bar along with the front will keep the car biased towards under-steer and would be my recommendation.
    Basically, what this means is if you screw up and go too fast into a corner, you will go off the road forwards rather then backwards. This is the safer of the two options and the reason why pretty much all cars are designed to understeer from the factory.

    Walter Rohrl (famous racing driver) was quoted saying "When you see the tree you're going to hit, that's called understeer. If you can only hear and feel it, it's oversteer".
    Thank you, this is great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coolrunning View Post
    I picked up a set of H&R sways and super sport springs from Jon Stuver here on the forums. Looking to throw everything today in a few days so that’ll be a way different driving machine.
    Please let me know!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corners4kids View Post
    I’ve done the rear sway bar on all my fast Audi’s (RS4, S4, S5 and my current S3). Other than the driver and tires, this made the most noticeable handling difference. It doesn’t make the car turn in harder, but makes the car turn sharper once it’s weight loaded.

    I’d recommend doing only the rear first. If you still want more initial turn in feeling, upgrade the front then (at the expense of understeer and overall street driving fun).
    will start with only the first!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TCHUN003 View Post
    I noticed a significant difference with my 034 RSW in the stiffest setting. I even noticed it in day to day driving taking long turns on the freeway. One of the best bang for the buck mods besides tuning.
    well I have the tune, so this should be a great compliment with it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spinnetti View Post
    Several good ones. I tend to prefer 034. I wouldn't do the front bar as a front bar will make it understeer more, and that's the last thing these cars need!
    Have to agree here, between installation and quality of product, 034 has a great rsb that offers 2-way adjustability with integrated zerk fitting billet brackets. Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of top contenders when it comes to sway bars (APR, H&R, Eibach) but there is something about 034's that makes me love how this platform handles! A front bar would be over kill due to reasons mentioned above, but adding a rear will compliment your suspension perfectly. As an added plus, we have them on sale

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