Motor Cost?

[rocco20v]

I know these cars are still new to the U.S. market but how hard is it to source full motors? Any idea what the cost for a replacement motor would be? Even used? I have heard estimates of $30k for a new motor but is that right?

[Sniper260687]

30K for a motor???

I would say less then $10K

[Jeff_Jeske]

If you are a do it yourself guy... with some extra space the best thing you could do is purchase a salvage RS3 or TTRS for the motor and part the rest out. I've been watching auctions for awhile and you can get a low mileage donor for $20k. You would easily be able to make $20k thru parting it out alone. If I had the space and time I'd have a spare engine and trans in storage right now.

[TheContrarian]

If you are a do it yourself guy... with some extra space the best thing you could do is purchase a salvage RS3 or TTRS for the motor and part the rest out. I've been watching auctions for awhile and you can get a low mileage donor for $20k. You would easily be able to make $20k thru parting it out alone. If I had the space and time I'd have a spare engine and trans in storage right now.

Is this the same Jeff Jeske that used to be on Probetalk.com forums?

[purekoryo]

Is this the same Jeff Jeske that used to be on Probetalk.com forums?

Man bringing back memories of the days! When I thought my MX6 LS was the shit and Jeff with his nitrous fed probe was the fastest thing on earth.

[purekoryo]

For what it's worth I was quoted $18K to $30K for a completely built upgraded motor.

[saxon]

they're not very cheap if you buy new. i think around 15k for a long block (if you can even order one!)

significantly cheaper to build it up front if you plan to push the car

[Potatohead_RS3]

For what it's worth I was quoted $18K to $30K for a completely built upgraded motor.

That's quite a range

[Lawrage]

I heard of another blown up rs3 today on a hybrid turbo setup

:( Not cool. Any more info on it?

[ReallyNotHalvie]

30K for a motor???

I would say less then $10K

Yeah, good luck with that.

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[Spec c]

Honestly I'd love to find a blown up motor for a spare. Want to build a second sleeved motor.

they're not very cheap if you buy new. i think around 15k for a long block (if you can even order one!)

significantly cheaper to build it up front if you plan to push the car

I heard of another blown up rs3 today on a hybrid turbo setup

Which hybrid was it running?

[saxon]

i believe the longblock part number is 07K-100-032-L

[Potatohead_RS3]

i believe the longblock part number is 07K-100-032-L

16 grand at a popular online OEM parts house

[silvino]

Way too much drama behind these ghost claims of motors blowing. It would be good to either keep it to yourself or share the info vs. letting everyone assume it was a particular company then running with it spreading disinformation. Transparency would be appreciated. :)

they're not very cheap if you buy new. i think around 15k for a long block (if you can even order one!)

significantly cheaper to build it up front if you plan to push the car

I heard of another blown up rs3 today on a hybrid turbo setup

[S3DUDE]

they're not very cheap if you buy new. i think around 15k for a long block (if you can even order one!)

significantly cheaper to build it up front if you plan to push the car

I heard of another blown up rs3 today on a hybrid turbo setup

I would love to hear either from you or from anyone that heard bout the blown engine with a hybrid turbo set-up. If you want you can PM me, I am really curious.

[silvino]

Thank you!

Sorry everyone, I didn't hear much but it was from a credible source. It was an srm turbo tuned by Apr. I know nothing more except that it didn't last much more than a month

[S3DUDE]

Hold on, let me get my bucket of popcorn... lol. No seriously, so many people out there that want to mod their cars but feel hesitant about breaking stuff. I want reliability first because I need to use the car everyday and my wife uses it like 50% of the time. Any word on Uni stage 2 yet?

[saxon]

Hold on, let me get my bucket of popcorn... lol. No seriously, so many people out there that want to mod their cars but feel hesitant about breaking stuff. I want reliability first because I need to use the car everyday and my wife uses it like 50% of the time. Any word on Uni stage 2 yet?

Software seems to be done for most part. Waiting on hardware

[S3DUDE]

^^ Uni should release their stage 2 tune and just have people buy or use other downpipes if they want to. import face-off is next week and I am not impressed with what the most powerful cars run at my local area are running. The hellcats doing 119 mph (same as my stock RS3), a stage 3 EPL S6 running 11.48@122(his best), a C7 Z06 rapping 121 mph(against me), GTR with Cobb stage 1 running 11.8 (one tenth quicker than my stock RS3). It makes me want to go and pick a Uni cable and wipe the house. I seen my competition and they are not competition at all. The CTS-V supercharged trapping 108s, SRT scat-packs trapping 108, new camaros trapping 108, stingrays trapping 113-114..like I said , I raced them all and with a tune I could crush them during Import face-off. I am so tempted...so much so..

[purekoryo]

Damn maybe I should just stop at Stage 2, 93 octane.

[comingabriel]

Hybrids and APR blown stuff, umpossible!

[Lawrage]

^^ Uni should release their stage 2 tune and just have people buy or use other downpipes if they want to. import face-off is next week and I am not impressed with what the most powerful cars run at my local area are running. The hellcats doing 119 mph (same as my stock RS3), a stage 3 EPL S6 running 11.48@122(his best), a C7 Z06 rapping 121 mph(against me), GTR with Cobb stage 1 running 11.8 (one tenth quicker than my stock RS3). It makes me want to go and pick a Uni cable and wipe the house. I seen my competition and they are not competition at all. The CTS-V supercharged trapping 108s, SRT scat-packs trapping 108, new camaros trapping 108, stingrays trapping 113-114..like I said , I raced them all and with a tune I could crush them during Import face-off. I am so tempted...so much so..

Wow I would have thought the hellcats would have done better. Was down at our local strip last night having a look at the competition and a Golf R ran his best at 11.89 (Stage 2 from what he said). As a stock RS3 I need to worry about Golf R's now.

[DarkSi08]

Wow I would have thought the hellcats would have done better. Was down at our local strip last night having a look at the competition and a Golf R ran his best at 11.89 (Stage 2 from what he said). As a stock RS3 I need to worry about Golf R's now.

Despite being really depressing for us, it’s a really awesome time to be a car enthusiast! Hell, it wasn’t long ago that you were akin to a god for having a daily driver in the 11’s... now you’re almost a chump if you don’t!

[allmotor_2000]

Honestly I'd love to find a blown up motor for a spare. Want to build a second sleeved motor.



Which hybrid was it running?

A blown up motor is no good when it has 1-2 holes in it! The two I heard of (and one I saw personally) threw a rod.

[S3DUDE]

^^ you have balls of steels bro. You went with the IMS 1000 right? that's nuts.

[Spec c]

A blown up motor is no good when it has 1-2 holes in it! The two I heard of (and one I saw personally) threw a rod.

Ya well clearly I don't want that haha. I have seen a couple that just have had piston damage(and I'm assuming cyl wall damage) but rods were fine.

[allmotor_2000]

^^ you have balls of steels bro. You went with the IMS 1000 right? that's nuts.

Yes but motor is built as well...

[S3DUDE]

Yes but motor is built as well...

knock on wood. There are not a whole lot of IMS 1000 out there. Hopefully nothing else from the drivetrain breaks (axles, diff), you are leading the way.

[NYEuroTuner]

LOL


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[Spec c]

knock on wood. There are not a whole lot of IMS 1000 out there. Hopefully nothing else from the drivetrain breaks (axles, diff), you are leading the way.

A lot is going to come down to usage. A car that's drag racing every weekend is going to wear things out or break things faster than a car that's street driven that does occasional high way pulls, etc. It's just the nature of it.

I think most of us that have taken any car to this level have a realistic view when it comes to certain parts possibly needing upgrading, or breaking in the process.

However it is nice to know the company you've chose, has their own development car and is pushing the boundaries every time they go out in order to find these weak links. There seems to be a lot of companies wanting to sell parts, sitting on the sidelines, but only one that's really putting in the work in terms of pushing this platform to its limits.

[NYEuroTuner]

A lot is going to come down to usage. A car that's drag racing every weekend is going to wear things out or break things faster than a car that's street driven that does occasional high way pulls, etc. It's just the nature of it.

I think most of us that have taken any car to this level have a realistic view when it comes to certain parts possibly needing upgrading, or breaking in the process.

However it is nice to know the company you've chose, has their own development car and is pushing the boundaries every time they go out in order to find these weak links. There seems to be a lot of companies wanting to sell parts, sitting on the sidelines, but only one that's really putting in the work in terms of pushing this platform to its limits.

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[purekoryo]

A lot is going to come down to usage. A car that's drag racing every weekend is going to wear things out or break things faster than a car that's street driven that does occasional high way pulls, etc. It's just the nature of it.

I think most of us that have taken any car to this level have a realistic view when it comes to certain parts possibly needing upgrading, or breaking in the process.

However it is nice to know the company you've chose, has their own development car and is pushing the boundaries every time they go out in order to find these weak links. There seems to be a lot of companies wanting to sell parts, sitting on the sidelines, but only one that's really putting in the work in terms of pushing this platform to its limits.

Bingo. One of the things I will never forget when I received my Master's in Reliability Engineering is the S-N Curve (Fatigue Strength vs. Fatigue Life) of a material. Audi most likely has this highly confidential curve and would be very interesting to see what that looks like. Here is an example of a study using finite element analysis. https://scialert.net/fulltext/?doi=jas.2013.1436.1442

I'm too lazy to do the calculation and it's been a while, but what this study basically tells us is that when you increase stress by two times, the fatigue is reduced 20 times. Assuming perfect maintenance on the motor with one owner, it can last up to 1 million miles and beyond albeit at low rpm highway miles. Thus if that motor was originally rated at 200 ft lbs and we increased to 400 ft lbs, it will now last 50,000 miles at low rpm, highway miles. Now for most of the racers out there, that average rpm is much higher. Keep in mind there are a lot of other variables at play so a huge safety factor would need to be plugged in as well. Only if we had the SN curve from Audi, would we know for sure what the actual torque vs. miles limits would be.

If I have more time, I will do some more research and get us a closer number.

[RSKYBET]

Lowest price I've found for a DAZA long block. $13,999.90.

https://www.shopdap.com/07k-100-032-j-vw-audi.html

[Jeff_Jeske]

Is this the same Jeff Jeske that used to be on Probetalk.com forums?

Hello gentlemen! Great to see the spirit of PT is still alive and well!

I'm serious when I say watch the salvage auctions. There were at least five RS3s that were flood damaged earlier this year. You could have snagged the entire drivetrain and scrapped the rest for the same cost of buying just the block.