Turbo Concepts selling Intake Manifold

[FlyboyS4]

Anybody look into trying this thing Turbo Concepts is selling?

[ruiz]

Here's the same thing for cheaper:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Intake-Ma...UAAOSwdIlbkoB5



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[ReggieNoble]

I would love to know if it has any real benefit and flow differences between stock and rs4 manifolds.

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[FlyboyS4]

I would love to know if it has any real benefit and flow differences between stock and rs4 manifolds.

I'm going to see if they'll send me one to test.

[S4James]

How are you taking it seriously? It looks like straight from china garbage.

[DieselElectric]

How are you taking it seriously? It looks like straight from china garbage.

Doesn't mean it won't work.

Chinese garbage downpipes are on 9/10 B5 S4s these days and do just fine.

[slow ride]

It might not be exactly about overall flow, but how it shapes the powerband. It all depends on runner length. Most of the issues with China intakes is thin material over large surfaces allowing flex then failure. One could brace it also.

[landfill]

That and many other problems. Shit welds,
warped flanges, mounting holes that don’t
line up and way more headaches. All the Chinese
5 cylinder parts come with those problems
above.

The only thing I’d do Chinese on the b5
is downpipes, exhaust, and possibly the
y-pipe & bipipe. Literally nothing else. If
you have the funds skip xspower entirely.

[landfill]

Also based on your data the best
intake manifold setup to date is
an ported rs4 manifold with enlarged
plenum. You said it even outflowed
the loba motorsports intake mani.

[Hog]

Interesting. How about the project b5 big plenum manifold?

[FlyboyS4]

Also based on your data the best
intake manifold setup to date is
an ported rs4 manifold with enlarged
plenum. You said it even outflowed
the loba motorsports intake mani.

I don't believe I called the ported RS4 manifold the best. It out-flowed the Loba when the test was performed with all of the intake runners open simultaneously. That is not representative of how the part functions in operation. I would put more emphasis on the test case where each runner was flowed individually.

That's not particularly relevant to what I'm interested in, the product that TC is selling is different and I haven't seen a whole lot of different designs available for this engine so I'm curious to see how it compares with respect to airflow.

[DieselElectric]

That and many other problems. Shit welds,
warped flanges, mounting holes that don’t
line up and way more headaches. All the Chinese
5 cylinder parts come with those problems
above.

The only thing I’d do Chinese on the b5
is downpipes, exhaust, and possibly the
y-pipe & bipipe. Literally nothing else. If
you have the funds skip xspower entirely.

Something as easy as the manifold to replace doesn't bother me to try out. But, then again I don't have anything on top of mine.

I wouldn't mind testing one out with the dragy, only takes a few minutes to swap so I could do back to back runs.

That said, I'm not going to be buying one any time soon, but it has my interest.

[m_haiser]

the runners look anemic imho

[landfill]

It was late and I guess a poor choice
of words. You were saying the ported
rs4 outflowed everything thus far so
I figured it was the best choice for peak
hp numbers but I could be wrong.

I guess in my opinion until a quality
aftermarket option arises then the
ported rs4 is the way to go. Again
just my .02.

Anyways I wouldn’t mind seeing your
data on this piece but if it’s from China
I’ve had bad luck with a lot of their
Audi parts.

[MacDaddy]

Too bad it doesnt have provisions for secondary fuel injectors, especially something being marketed for bigger set ups.

[ReggieNoble]

I think one of the biggest faults with this manifold is the fact it appears to use the S4 throttle body. It would of be nice if it was able to use a RS4 or hemi throttle body. I also have concerns about the area above the throttle body flange, it looks like it would cause turbulence.

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[Drehmoment]

TheTuner makes a quality intake manifold out flowing the RS4 piece with optimized runner without silly bottom weld one but not at bargain prices Chicom parts offer

Hilariously some posters bashing Chicom stuff are running Chicom sourced flat out ripped off /copied turbos from a Chicom peddler in Las Vegas

[armageddon-]

TheTuner makes a quality intake manifold out flowing the RS4 piece with optimized runner without silly bottom weld one but not at bargain prices Chicom parts offer

Hilariously some posters bashing Chicom stuff are running Chicom sourced flat out ripped off /copied turbos from a Chicom peddler in Las Vegas

You didn't :) 😱

[S4James]

oh just ignore that guy. He adds no value.

[MacDaddy]

Las Vegas

“Im Rick Harrison and THIS is my B5S4”

[FlyboyS4]

TheTuner makes a quality intake manifold out flowing the RS4 piece...

This one? By how much?

[Cash-Fueled-S4]

This one? By how much?

Seconded, anyone know the actual benefit? Or if there is any?


Nagaro blue B5 S4, 6 speed, Ko4 turbos, EVS 14 550 CC injectors, 034 stage three tune, 034 forged diverted valves, silicone hoses, 85MM MAF housing, MAF upgrade, twin disc ceramic clutch, secondary oxygen sensors tuned out, XSpower full stainless exhaust (no cats), rolling on Enkei PF01’s

[VR6Bomber]

Seconded, anyone know the actual benefit? Or if there is any?

The benefit is mainly weight reduction.
..of your wallet.


$2300 intakes? no thx please lol.

[S4James]

law of diminishing gains... When you can mod a stock one for 1/4 of the price and get 95% of the performance.. Makes more sense to put that cash into something that will benefit you better.

But if the goal is a maximum effort build, and no expense spared, then sure fuckit... Mind you there are a ton of much better cars out there to soak up your money and they will be a lot damn faster and reliable.

[Drehmoment]

The benefit is mainly weight reduction.
..of your wallet.


$2300 intakes? no thx please lol.

$1535 if you can read.......but I am sure you would be shelling out 2g's plus for Chicom knock off turbos where the vendor pockets $1800 with zero R&D and are convinced you got a great deal.

[Drehmoment]

[QUOTE=Cash-Fueled-S4;13441307]Seconded, anyone know the actual benefit? Or if there is any?


Nagaro blue B5 S4, 6 speed, Ko4 turbos, EVS 14 550 CC injectors, 034 stage three tune, 034 forged diverted valves, silicone hoses, 85MM MAF housing, MAF upgrade, twin disc ceramic clutch, secondary oxygen sensors tuned out, XSpower full stainless exhaust (no cats), rolling on Enkei PF01’s[/QUOTE


Once upon a time Quattro GMBH commissioned Cosworth to build a engine with some potential.........to get to 385 crank they build a entire new engine top to bottom and yes, it included a enlarged e n g i n e e r e d intake manifold to provide adequate flow for the rest of the puzzle called a Otto engine.........now if you are willing to get to the top of the heap with the goal of 1000 plus chp the Thetuners piece will, in conjunction with another $35000 in parts/labor get you there not counting the other $20000 you will be spending to learn how to make it last.

[FlyboyS4]

Once upon a time Quattro GMBH commissioned Cosworth to build a engine with some potential.........to get to 385 crank they build a entire new engine top to bottom and yes, it included a enlarged e n g i n e e r e d intake manifold to provide adequate flow for the rest of the puzzle called a Otto engine.........now if you are willing to get to the top of the heap with the goal of 1000 plus chp the Thetuners piece will, in conjunction with another $35000 in parts/labor get you there not counting the other $20000 you will be spending to learn how to make it last.

Saying that it outflows the RS4 is too general to convey useful information, as well as unsubstantiated thus far.

I assume VAT would not apply to a U.S. purchase so looks like the price would be about $1230. Reasonable price for what looks like a quality part.

Getting back on topic, I heard back from TC and am discussing what I have in mind.

[Mille Bornes]

$1230 isn't bad at all. I'd spring for that if I didn't already have a ported/enlarged plenum RS4 manifold

[S4James]

agree

[landfill]

Damn I honestly thought it would be a lot more $$$.

[MacDaddy]

Where the velocity is the higest the velocity is the lowest, with that in mind adding pressure is just slowing down the air velocity into the engine.

The only reason “bigger is better” seems to work is because the penalties paid for all the sharp edges in the intake system would be lower when things are larger.

Basically, the less air you are trying to move the less it matters the changes in direction, shape, etc of the air.

[csobel]

This one? By how much?

BAM! Busted.

[FlyboyS4]

Where the velocity is the higest the velocity is the lowest,

I'm confused by that statement.

with that in mind adding pressure is just slowing down the air velocity into the engine.

The only reason “bigger is better” seems to work is because the penalties paid for all the sharp edges in the intake system would be lower when things are larger.

Basically, the less air you are trying to move the less it matters the changes in direction, shape, etc of the air.

The rest is also not very clear to me.

[VR6Bomber]

$1535 if you can read.......but I am sure you would be shelling out 2g's plus for Chicom knock off turbos where the vendor pockets $1800 with zero R&D and are convinced you got a great deal.

I have TTE's dork.

[MacDaddy]

Where pressure is highest velocity is lowest*

[FlyboyS4]

Where pressure is highest velocity is lowest*

Ok.

What does this mean:

"with that in mind adding pressure is just slowing down the air velocity into the engine."

What is adding pressure, where is it being added, and what is pressure being added to?

[Sean@EuroCode]

$1535 if you can read.......but I am sure you would be shelling out 2g's plus for Chicom knock off turbos where the vendor pockets $1800 with zero R&D and are convinced you got a great deal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UX3_uGRAqZA&t=2m10s

[Mocke]

TheTuner IM is very nice Peace of Engeneering.
For proper results, it should have been measured static on the bench. I can feel personally, this is something they should have done in the first Place.
However, i have had oportunity to Tune 2 cars with this Setup. They also had other Power addons from TheTuner.
All of them very Beautiful Products, perfect fitment.

This is an RS4 with Loba600 on petrol 98 (Us 93), made 636bhp.
It is alot for petrol used and turbos.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LE9fYEYIlQ
Maybe the IM has played a big role in it? I dont know, but concidering that used RS IM is 1000 bucks, brand new TheTuner IM is not so bloody expensive.

[Silverex]

Mocke do you have any pictures of thetuner piece? I’d like to see what the inside looks like since they only have a few pictures on website.

[Mocke]

Mocke do you have any pictures of thetuner piece? I’d like to see what the inside looks like since they only have a few pictures on website.

No i dont, its customers cars.
I can ask.
But i might get back to back logs, as one of the mega builds i have been involved in has been tuned on RS IM. He has been talking about switching to TheTuner one.