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    PPI Suggestion in Portland Oregon Please?

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    Hello all,

    Working out a deal on a 2015 manual with a non Audi dealer in Portland Oregon. I am trying to get a PPI but the salesperson is trying to talk me out of it. The vehicle had two owners so far, the first one was a lease and the owner performed the recommended services on time upto the 25k service, which was in October 2016. The second owner looks like never did the 35k with the dealer at least. Also during the second ownership, couple of brake services and engine/power train checked record is questionable.

    The 35K is a major service at least with the DSG, not sure about the manual though. The vehicle is currently at 45k, so will perform a 45k service for sure.

    Should I be worried about the service history with the second owner?

    I will definitely perform a PPI and found this http://pdxinspections.com/ by google search. Has anyone used them or anybody have suggestions?

    Thanks in advance. Below is the service history of the vehicle.

    8/7/2014 - Vehicle sold
    12/29/2014 - 4105 miles - 5k service - Audi dealer
    12/30/2015 - 10,872 miles - 15k service - - Audi dealer
    10/26/2016 - 21,117 miles - 25k service - Audi dealer
    08/23/2017 - Brakes checked
    08/24/2017 - Vehicle offered for sale
    09/16/2017 - Vehicle serviced - Audi dealer

    Sold
    10/04/2017 - 2nd owner
    10/19/2017 - 31,532 miles - Engine/Powertrain computer/module checked - Audi dealer
    01/30/2018 - 36,974 miles - One tire mounted and balanced - Audi dealer
    04/11/2018 - 41,737 miles - Brakes checked, brake fluid flushed/changed, tire repaired - Audi dealer

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    I had a PPI done by Matrix Integrated on a B8.5 S4 I almost bought in Portland, worth every penny. They gave me a bunch more information. If the dealer is trying to talk you out of a PPI that’s not really a surprise, since an inspection is going to be someone else looking for potential issues.

    Ultimately I’d recommend it on anything that wasn’t already certified pre-owned.


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    Quote Originally Posted by arunner View Post
    I had a PPI done by Matrix Integrated on a B8.5 S4 I almost bought in Portland, worth every penny. They gave me a bunch more information. If the dealer is trying to talk you out of a PPI that’s not really a surprise, since an inspection is going to be someone else looking for potential issues.

    Ultimately I’d recommend it on anything that wasn’t already certified pre-owned.


    Sent from my iPhone because fuck you Eric
    Thanks, appreciate the tip, will contact Matrix and try to setup one. Do the dealer have to take the car to Matrix?

    EDIT : Oops, just realized you live in Portland :) , will find out from them.
    Last edited by sailakfan; 10-09-2018 at 08:18 AM.

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    Matrix is great but has been working more on the Porsche side of things recently and is often busy.

    M&W Automotive or Futrell if the car is on the west side of Portland. Double J Motorworks or Halsey if it is on the East side.

    Just FYI, you can call the dealership and figure out exactly what was done to the car during each service.

    There are 3 service locations here. Sunset(West of Portland), Sunset east(NE Portland near the airport) and Wilsonville(South of Portland)
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiped View Post
    Matrix is great but has been working more on the Porsche side of things recently and is often busy.

    M&W Automotive or Futrell if the car is on the west side of Portland. Double J Motorworks or Halsey if it is on the East side.

    Just FYI, you can call the dealership and figure out exactly what was done to the car during each service.

    There are 3 service locations here. Sunset(West of Portland), Sunset east(NE Portland near the airport) and Wilsonville(South of Portland)
    I’d also bet that Geoff has more recent / accurate information than I do. All solid recommendations.


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    Quote Originally Posted by whiped View Post
    Matrix is great but has been working more on the Porsche side of things recently and is often busy.

    M&W Automotive or Futrell if the car is on the west side of Portland. Double J Motorworks or Halsey if it is on the East side.

    Just FYI, you can call the dealership and figure out exactly what was done to the car during each service.

    There are 3 service locations here. Sunset(West of Portland), Sunset east(NE Portland near the airport) and Wilsonville(South of Portland)

    The dealership is on the east side, Jordan Motor Sport, so appreciate the recommendations, will contact them later today and try to setup a ppi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arunner View Post
    I’d also bet that Geoff has more recent / accurate information than I do. All solid recommendations.


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    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sailakfan View Post
    The dealership is on the east side, Jordan Motor Sport, so appreciate the recommendations, will contact them later today and try to setup a ppi.
    Reach out to Double J, they are the closest and will take great care of you.

    I have no experience or knowledge of Jordan Motorsport so can't comment on them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiped View Post
    Reach out to Double J, they are the closest and will take great care of you.

    I have no experience or knowledge of Jordan Motorsport so can't comment on them.
    Thanks Geoff, will do and keep you all posted. Appreciate it, by the way, this is the dealership https://www.jordanmotorsport.com/used-cars-portland

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    Quote Originally Posted by arunner View Post
    I had a PPI done by Matrix Integrated on a B8.5 S4 I almost bought in Portland, worth every penny. They gave me a bunch more information. If the dealer is trying to talk you out of a PPI that’s not really a surprise, since an inspection is going to be someone else looking for potential issues.

    Ultimately I’d recommend it on anything that wasn’t already certified pre-owned.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 734jeant View Post
    +1 Matrix for a PPI
    Thanks for the recommendation, but according to Geoff, looks like they are busy.

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    It doesn't hurt to reach out. You can even try here on the forums: https://www.audizine.com/forum/membe...-jeremy-matrix

    Neither of his shops are near where the car is at.
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    I see Jordan selling a LOT of high end cars for cheap, but their reputation isn't great from what I remember..

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    Just and FYI sunset or Beaverton Audi doesn't do PPI inspections. I called and tried to have mine done there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sfour007 View Post
    I see Jordan selling a LOT of high end cars for cheap, but their reputation isn't great from what I remember..
    Thank you for the heads up, appreciate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKO View Post
    Just and FYI sunset or Beaverton Audi doesn't do PPI inspections. I called and tried to have mine done there.
    I have decided to go with Matrix, so will keep you all posted. Thanks though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sailakfan View Post
    Thank you for the heads up, appreciate it.

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    I have decided to go with Matrix, so will keep you all posted. Thanks though.
    You will not be disappointed. I've been a Matrix customer for 15 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dobbler View Post
    You will not be disappointed. I've been a Matrix customer for 15 years.
    Thanks, already can feel the service from Jeremy's communication so far.

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    Lol...

    I bought my fully loaded prestige a few months ago off a random CL ad in Portland without a PPI. Just a round trip ticket and a lot of faith. Best decision evar!

    You seriously don't need one if you know what to look for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fresh.S4 View Post
    Lol...

    I bought my fully loaded prestige a few months ago off a random CL ad in Portland without a PPI. Just a round trip ticket and a lot of faith. Best decision evar!

    You seriously don't need one if you know what to look for.
    Thanks mate for sharing your experience, gives me confidence, but still will do the ppi just for peace of mind and records. With this kind of investment, I will sleep better.

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    Nothing for me to add since it's already been said above, but felt it worth saying what's up to my fellow Portlanders!
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    remember you are buying an Audi. the dependability should be there regardless if new/used.
    quality parts should be able to take some normal daily use and keep pushing strong.

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    Thanks for the kind words and recommendations all!

    Quote Originally Posted by whiped View Post
    Matrix is great but has been working more on the Porsche side of things recently and is often busy.
    Hey Geoff. Yes, lots of Porsche's lately(because it's been the summer and clients are getting their vehicles fixed up before they go into hibernation for the winter), but lots of Audi's(and BMW's and VW's and MINI's and...) too.
    In fact, just had the pleasure of working on this unicorn recently!; https://www.facebook.com/MatrixInteg...1309?__tn__=-R

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    PS--Jordan Motorsport used to be Jordan Motorz. Seems they changed their name slightly when they moved from McLoughlin to 122nd.
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    I would never buy a German car without a PPI. I find it weird that the Dealership won't do it. Good choice with the Manual transmission. The DSG's are hit or miss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PopTart View Post
    I would never buy a German car without a PPI. I find it weird that the Dealership won't do it. Good choice with the Manual transmission. The DSG's are hit or miss.
    Reasons why I can think of why a salesperson would try to talk someone out of a PPI; trying to hide something, doesn't want to deal with negotiating on price dependent on PPI findings, trying to capture the sale quicker without the delay of PPI/client re-thinking purchase, etc.
    DSG's are awesome in our opinions! Gotta make sure they've had 35k DSG services.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Method View Post
    Nothing for me to add since it's already been said above, but felt it worth saying what's up to my fellow Portlanders!
    Thanks though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PopTart View Post
    I would never buy a German car without a PPI. I find it weird that the Dealership won't do it. Good choice with the Manual transmission. The DSG's are hit or miss.

    Thanks, the main reason for the manual is kind of missing the third pedal and rowing after not driving a stick for almost 23 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeremy@matrix View Post
    Reasons why I can think of why a salesperson would try to talk someone out of a PPI; trying to hide something, doesn't want to deal with negotiating on price dependent on PPI findings, trying to capture the sale quicker without the delay of PPI/client re-thinking purchase, etc.
    DSG's are awesome in our opinions! Gotta make sure they've had 35k DSG services.

    True, DSGs are wonderful and could have found one locally if I was after one. But since they removed the manual in the B9, the proven B8 manual was the only way to go after considering several other brands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfour007 View Post
    I see Jordan selling a LOT of high end cars for cheap, but their reputation isn't great from what I remember..
    Hello, you were absolutely correct, they are bunch of crooks and not sure how they are staying in business. They keep changing their names, so when I searched over the internet before your post did not find their older dealerships. Here is the one they closed while ago and changed their name to Yasin Gran Turismo
    https://www.yelp.com/biz/jordan-motorz-damascus


    Anyway, the day before you warned me, I put a considerable amount of deposit and signed a contract. The contract said I have to close within 4 days or up to 2 weeks, I was not worried so much as they are located inside a well known dealership in Portland. Then the next day when I called to arrange the PPI, the salesperson said the car is locked up in the owner's garage as collects car and now he is out of the country, will not be back until 20th. All sounded fishy to me and asked them to just cancel the contract and refund my money, but he would not agree. Then the following Monday, when I called the dealership, the owner answered. When I disclosed myself, asked him if he is back from his trip, he said no, still on vacation and the phone rolled over to his cell. But he was rude and did not want to discuss about it, asked me to contact him on the 18th and hung up the phone. Since then the salesperson stopped answering my phone and replying to my emails. But fortunately have the email thread with the salesperson replying the above story. On Tuesday, the 2 weeks were up, so finally got hold of the salesman and he said they still could not locate the owner and will refund my deposit. So far no sign of the refund, so have opened a dispute with my credit card.


    All this time, Jeremy from Matrix have been tremendously helpful and responded to all my emails, gave great suggestions. Wish it was a real sale and I have performed a ppi with them. If I find any cars in Portland in the future, would not hesitate to reach out to them for a PPI. Thanks Jeremy.

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    If anybody is looking for a PPI in Portland, OR and find this thread, I highly recommend Jeremy with Matrix.

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    UGH, so very sorry to hear this!! I hope you come out square from all of this.
    Always happy to help, LMK if I can with anything else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeremy@matrix View Post
    UGH, so very sorry to hear this!! I hope you come out square from all of this.
    Always happy to help, LMK if I can with anything else.
    Thank you,
    Jeremy

    Thanks for all your help Jeremy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sailakfan View Post
    Thanks for all your help Jeremy.
    You're very welcome!
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