2014 Audi A4 Reliability

[PopTart]

Hey Guys, I found an A4. Its a 2014 with 70K miles. It has Quattro. How reliable are your cars? Does it have the same DSG/S-Tronic that is causing problems for S4 owners?

[bhvrdr]

Hey Guys, I found an A4. Its a 2014 with 70K miles. It has Quattro. How reliable are your cars? Does it have the same DSG/S-Tronic that is causing problems for S4 owners?

There is very little issue with the dsg. There are folks who are pushing 500hp through the dsg with hundreds of drag launches and no issue. The early 2010 models had mechatronic issues that they have a $300 repair kit fir now. The a4 on the other hand has been plagued with engine problems from 2009 to at least 2013. 2014 may be much safer but until we see a ton of 2014 cars with 100k plus miles id still not trust that engine. The zf trans in the quattro a4 cars is very reliable.

[vincent_nguyen2]

2014 with 34k miles and APR stage 2. No problems yet mechanically besides a replaced gearbox under warranty. That one happened before I got the car which was in Jan 2014 with 13,838 miles. I haven’t researched why but I think I saw something saying gen 2 gearboxes were replaced with gen 3.

[PopTart]

There is very little issue with the dsg. There are folks who are pushing 500hp through the dsg with hundreds of drag launches and no issue. The early 2010 models had mechatronic issues that they have a $300 repair kit fir now. The a4 on the other hand has been plagued with engine problems from 2009 to at least 2013. 2014 may be much safer but until we see a ton of 2014 cars with 100k plus miles id still not trust that engine. The zf trans in the quattro a4 cars is very reliable.

Is the following correct: The ZF8 Transmission is used in all (B8) and (B8.5) A4's? That transmission is very reliable. However, the 2.0T is unreliable. The Timing Chain Tensioner is known to fail.

[Theiceman]

I have a 2014 with 130k miles and i can tell you the engine is no better.


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[audrobotic]

Icemans 2014 B8.5 woes are not typical. But failure can happen of course. The B8.5 is average in reliability although it’s not really designed to run beautifully past around 100-120k.

See the looking to buy sticky in this thread https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...uestion-Thread

[DetRebel]

Audi and reliability only goes in the same sentence when discussing the 3.0T.

Most ZF8 transmission are solid as well.


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[Project Quattro]

Is the following correct: The ZF8 Transmission is used in all (B8) and (B8.5) A4's? That transmission is very reliable. However, the 2.0T is unreliable. The Timing Chain Tensioner is known to fail.

The 2011+ automatics are all ZF8. It's a great transmission.

The timing chain tensioner was solved for the 2013+ cars, they used a revised version.


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[PopTart]

Audi and reliability only goes in the same sentence when discussing the 3.0T.

Most ZF8 transmission are solid as well.


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So, it seems like the most reliable Audi would be a 3.0T with ZF8 Transmission. Which is basically an A6 (2012-2018)

[Project Quattro]

So, it seems like the most reliable Audi would be a 3.0T with ZF8 Transmission. Which is basically an A6 (2012-2018)

Yeah pretty much. Or a Q5 3.0T, SQ5, or A7.

The facelift 2.0Ts are pretty solid cars though. I owned mine for several years and literally never had any issues with it.


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[audrobotic]

Audi and reliability only goes in the same sentence when discussing the 3.0T.

Most ZF8 transmission are solid as well.

This.

[Black Raptor]

This.

I have a b8 2.0 Quattro with 190,000mi. Did basic maintenance like, carbon cleaning, new seals on the injectors and water pump, oil changes and coolant flush. O and engine mount went out at 145,000


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[AOW162435]

60k on our '14. No issues to date. Apart from a few visits to the dealer for recall/software updates, I've never been back. I perform my own maintenance.



Andreas

[PopTart]

60k on our '14. No issues to date. Apart from a few visits to the dealer for recall/software updates, I've never been back. I perform my own maintenance.



Andreas

2014 is the 1st year Audi used a new timing chain tensioner. I think.

[old guy]

2014 is the 1st year Audi used a new timing chain tensioner. I think.

I have a 2013 A5 CAEB with a 10/12 build date. It has the updated tensioner. Apparently there was some overlap.

[Pr1ce]

I have a 2013 a4 2.0tQ and as I sit here I’m 145,092 miles in

[PopTart]

So, years 2013-2016 should have the updated Timing Chain.

[bhvrdr]

So, years 2013-2016 should have the updated Timing Chain.

Some 2013, not all. And the timing chains are but one of many total shit parts in the 2.0tfsi that ultimately can lead to a rebuild. Dont make the mistake if focusing on just the tensioners, or jyst the chains, or just the guides, or just the cam bridge, or just the pistons, or just the rod bearings, or just the turbo.... etc etc etc.

Mike

[old guy]

Some 2013, not all. And the timing chains are but one of many total shit parts in the 2.0tfsi that ultimately can lead to a rebuild. Dont make the mistake if focusing on just the tensioners, or jyst the chains, or just the guides, or just the cam bridge, or just the pistons, or just the rod bearings, or just the turbo.... etc etc etc.

Mike

Come on, Mike....

Tell us what you really think!!

I do wish I had done a little more research before I purchased my A5. Knowing then what I know now I would have gone with an S5. I just fell in love with the lines of the A5/S5 and found a low mileage Monsoon Gray Premium Plus 6-speed. Kind of an impulse buy. Pulled out the checkbook on the spot.

As I previously mentioned it has the updated tensioner but not the latest chain update. I already changed to the latest PCV as a preventive measure. I'll probably do a carbon cleaning around 60k miles and replace the injectors as another preventive measure. I don't think I will keep it beyond 100k miles.

Hell, by then my A4 B6 will probably be pushing 300k!!

Unfortunately I'm not sure where to go next since Audi (for now) has stopped importing anything with a manual gear-box.

[bhvrdr]

Haha i hear ya. Yeah im on my second a4 and 5 engines between them but it is what it is. I want an avant and you can pick up a cpma for 2500 bucks so we'll see when i give up on this one. Meanwhile ive had three cars with the 3.0t and never a hiccup. If i get crazy id so love to put the 3.0t in the avant but thats a heck of a project. Need to retire first

[Black Raptor]

I almost have 200k miles on my 09 b8. No major issues


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[richardm0025]

I almost have 200k miles on my 09 b8. No major issues


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No way!? Oil consumption, injectors, turbo, timing chain tensioner, intake manifold?

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[doublespeeded]

Is the following correct: The ZF8 Transmission is used in all (B8) and (B8.5) A4's? That transmission is very reliable. However, the 2.0T is unreliable. The Timing Chain Tensioner is known to fail.

The 2011+ automatics are all ZF8. It's a great transmission.

The timing chain tensioner was solved for the 2013+ cars, they used a revised version.


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Im not 100% certain, but it may differ slightly depending on which part of the world you're from.

For e.g I have the 7-speed DSG Auto gearbox in my B8.5 2.0T A4... I don't think its the exact same gearbox as the B8.5 S4 7-speed DSG... you may find the gearbox on the A4 has longer gears... A disadvantage for Drag race scenario but an advantage when it comes to maximising fuel efficiency. compared to the performance oriented model (S4).. which is actually one of the biggest complaints S4 owners have; the 'fuel economy'.

For me, the timing chain tensioner was resolved in Late 2012' (sept).. which was the first of the facelift...


The only issue you may find is the PCV failing and carbon build up, which is the common disadvantage for Direct injection TFSI engines.

IMO, better if you can pick up a B8.5 equipped with the EA888 GEN III motor... the most obvious and visual difference to distinguish, is the different engine cover and location of the oil filler/cap.

[Black Raptor]

No way!? Oil consumption, injectors, turbo, timing chain tensioner, intake manifold?

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Nope. Burns a little oil between oil changes but not enough to add oil to the car between oil changes. BTW I use OEM factory Castrol w5-40 oil.
Also let the car idle till it’s warm ( or oil at 154f) before driving . And keep up on carbon cleaning, 91, as recommended by the manufacturer. Basic mods, exhaust, intake, rims


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[bhvrdr]

Nope. Burns a little oil between oil changes but not enough to add oil to the car between oil changes. BTW I use OEM factory Castrol w5-40 oil.
Also let the car idle till it’s warm ( or oil at 154f) before driving . And keep up on carbon cleaning, 91, as recommended by the manufacturer. Basic mods, exhaust, intake, rims


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Where are you getting the OEM castrol 5w40. I thought it was still only sold to audi?

Mike

[Project Quattro]

Im not 100% certain, but it may differ slightly depending on which part of the world you're from.

For e.g I have the 7-speed DSG Auto gearbox in my B8.5 2.0T A4... I don't think its the exact same gearbox as the B8.5 S4 7-speed DSG... you may find the gearbox on the A4 has longer gears... A disadvantage for Drag race scenario but an advantage when it comes to maximising fuel efficiency. compared to the performance oriented model (S4).. which is actually one of the biggest complaints S4 owners have; the 'fuel economy'.

For me, the timing chain tensioner was resolved in Late 2012' (sept).. which was the first of the facelift...


The only issue you may find is the PCV failing and carbon build up, which is the common disadvantage for Direct injection TFSI engines.

IMO, better if you can pick up a B8.5 equipped with the EA888 GEN III motor... the most obvious and visual difference to distinguish, is the different engine cover and location of the oil filler/cap.

True. US cars did not get the dual clutch.


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[ps2cho]

Im not 100% certain, but it may differ slightly depending on which part of the world you're from.

For e.g I have the 7-speed DSG Auto gearbox in my B8.5 2.0T A4... I don't think its the exact same gearbox as the B8.5 S4 7-speed DSG... you may find the gearbox on the A4 has longer gears... A disadvantage for Drag race scenario but an advantage when it comes to maximising fuel efficiency. compared to the performance oriented model (S4).. which is actually one of the biggest complaints S4 owners have; the 'fuel economy'.

For me, the timing chain tensioner was resolved in Late 2012' (sept).. which was the first of the facelift...


The only issue you may find is the PCV failing and carbon build up, which is the common disadvantage for Direct injection TFSI engines.

IMO, better if you can pick up a B8.5 equipped with the EA888 GEN III motor... the most obvious and visual difference to distinguish, is the different engine cover and location of the oil filler/cap.

What is the year cutoff for the gen3? I'm assuming my 2016 Allroad uses a gen3 EA888?

[Black Raptor]

Where are you getting the OEM castrol 5w40. I thought it was still only sold to audi?

Mike

Just go to your local parts and buy castrol syntec full synthetic w5-40. Which is the same OEM oil. BTW are in the states ? I’m in the US


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