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    Review of KW HAS springs for RS3

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    While this would have been helpful for me before I bought I figured I should try and help the next RS3 owner with some words on the kit.

    First of all so you understand where I am coming from the RS3 is not my DD, track car or beater ;) I bought it on impulse because it was Riveria Blue even though I considered getting a RS3 when they first came out ( I was a 2017 deposit) but the whole port fisaco soured me on the car.

    I have a 2017 Macan GTS in Mexico Blue, a 2018 GT3.2 Maritime Blue, 2012 Boxster Spyder and a 2018 Mini Cooper JCW as a beater that I send out in harms way of the wild streets of OC and a couple of air cooled 911's. The GT3 is in a league of its own, the Spyder right behind it. I am amused when the Macan rave about their handling...sure for a CUV is handles very well and that's it. I have a whole 244 miles on the RS3 and I dont imagine I will cross 1k this year so I cannot provide some detail about the handling outside of the 100 miles I have added since installation.

    The RS3 handles well, not Porsche well but very well for a sports sedan. I did not like the gap and I also did not want to rush into a lowering solution. My first choice was MSS. As I have stated I called the distributor on the Easy Coast who gave me a local shop to do the installation. After that phone call I think MSS needs ot rehtink whom to recommend in the future. I looked at all the low hanging fruit ones, most of the arguments were based on costs, frankly that is not my first concern, instead quality, ease of installation coupled with skill and reputation. I have no desire to sully the names of any other brands as previous installations of H&R and other brands have provided good results. I chose to go with KW and Auto Art for the installation as it worked for me as I grew up int eh South Bay and had friends I could spend the day with while it was installed.

    I explained how much of a drop I wanted, I wanted a slight rake ( fwd). A few hours later it was completed. First go round it was exactly what I wanted, about 50% of the available drop was used.

    Now I will tell you that anyone that says after installing aftermarket springs that it rides " better" or " OEM" is fooling themselves. Of course it changes. I have had over 70 cars in my 50 years on the planet and most of them I have screwed with the suspension. The only time I can honestly say that the ride was better was the Ohlins on my RS4. Other than that there is some diminishment of the factory ride.

    I would say in the short time I have had it that the car in Comfort is 85% of OEM and in Dynamic is 75%. In Comfort there is less roll and dive but as I said about 15% firmer ( with a 50% drop) Dynamic is much firmer and on smooth roads I can see how this would be ideal but we no longer have smooth roads in OC.

    Looks wise it is exactly what I wanted. I have no complaints at this point. I may add to this as I add more miles. As I said they will come slowly but if anything of note happens I will post it.

    I hope this helps anyone thinking of the KW HAS kit.
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    Oh that's hawt!!! Well done! I'm rocking the KW HAS kit on my RS4 & it's been great for 20k on the DRC.. We'll see how long more the DRC goes...


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    Looks great Jon! Thank you for taking the time to provide some feedback. I've done around 22K miles on my HAS, and have been pleased.
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    Looks fantastic. Love the color. I just got my commission number on my GT3 touring today. Share some pics of your PTS beauty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mops@Nemesis View Post
    Looks great Jon! Thank you for taking the time to provide some feedback. I've done around 22K miles on my HAS, and have been pleased.
    Of course. As soon as my wifes ridiculously painted car is completed and we go fetch it I can get with you on a "real" set of rims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RS3USC View Post
    Of course. As soon as my wifes ridiculously painted car is completed and we go fetch it I can get with you on a "real" set of rims.
    Ha! Sounds like a plan to me.

    I picked up a couple of new 991 Minichamps models. You'll especially enjoy one of them. I'll send you a photo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mops@Nemesis View Post
    Ha! Sounds like a plan to me.

    I picked up a couple of new 991 Minichamps models. You'll especially enjoy one of them. I'll send you a photo.

    Your habit is worse than mine...at least I'm 1:43 ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by RS3USC View Post
    Your habit is worse than mine...at least I'm 1:43 ;)
    It’s outta control.

    You’re much worse than I when it comes to 1:1


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    Thank you for your write up. So are you saying the front and back are both 50%. So it has a natural rake to it?


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    Great stuff and gorgeous RS3. Thank you. I too have always been pleased with HAS drop.

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    I dig this. Several RS3's I've seen on suspension are reverse raked and not what I'm looking for. This looks great.

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    Thanks for taking the time to write this up, the car looks amazing. What wheel and tire specs are you on for reference?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RS3USC View Post
    Now I will tell you that anyone that says after installing aftermarket springs that it rides " better" or " OEM" is fooling themselves. Of course it changes.
    This ^. I recently swapped out my H&R springs because it was too firm for everyday use on street, although reading the reviews people say the ride is "much better" than OEM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by S3owner View Post
    This ^. I recently swapped out my H&R springs because it was too firm for everyday use on street, although reading the reviews people say the ride is "much better" than OEM.
    I'd seen several reviews of them being too firm also, seems you found the same. What did you switch to, or did you go back to OEM?

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    Back to OEM for now. Might opt for a set of KW coilovers.

    another myth about the H&R: it is advertised to drop 0.75", but after they settled it was almost 1.25" drop for me. My rear tires were almost tucked in the fenders. (245/35/19 with 17mm spacers). Looked great, but not ideal for DD.
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    I think some ppl confuse “better handling” with “better ride”. Stiffer springs will give better handling but not a better (more comfortable) ride. Allthough both of those are subjective terms, there no real way around that other than finding the right balance.

    As far as drop, my days of being disappointed with advertised static spring lowering (too much or not enough) are long over. It’s adjustable or coils for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul@SupremePower View Post
    As far as drop, my days of being disappointed with advertised static spring lowering (too much or not enough) are long over. It’s adjustable or coils for me.
    This for sure! The fender gaps must be dead-on, or I'm severely bothered. But some are fine with a drop that provides say 25mm at each axle, and that's cool too. I was actually that guy at one point lol. Over time, we all become more particular, and have more disposable income.

    I'm hoping ABT gets their HAS kit out soon. They have it nailed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mops@Nemesis View Post
    This for sure! The fender gaps must be dead-on, or I'm severely bothered. But some are fine with a drop that provides say 25mm at each axle, and that's cool too. I was actually that guy at one point lol. Over time, we all become more particular, and have more disposable income.

    I'm hoping ABT gets their HAS kit out soon. They have it nailed!
    For sure. Although, there were times many years ago where paying rent just barely won over buying coilovers. It was a photo finish each time.

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    Coilovers > stock > springs.

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    I’m very interested in seeing what this kit looks like all the way down. If it still has that rake then I’m in.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RS3USC View Post
    Now I will tell you that anyone that says after installing aftermarket springs that it rides " better" or " OEM" is fooling themselves. Of course it changes. I have had over 70 cars in my 50 years on the planet and most of them I have screwed with the suspension. The only time I can honestly say that the ride was better was the Ohlins on my RS4. Other than that there is some diminishment of the factory ride.
    This is why when I choose to do suspension changes it will only be Ohlins Coilover system hands down!
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