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    Question 3.0t 0-60 time?

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    So in all curiousness here, who has measured the 0-60 time on their A6 3.0t? Ive seen numbers varying from APR saying 5.5 seconds, MotorTrend listing 5.9 (etc, etc), but no number seems to be consistent across different sources.

    So what have any of you guys found the 0-60 time to be? (If you're modded/diff motor and have a self timed, go for it. Im curious what some modded times are for various specs/motors). I'd expect in the 5.5 second range from the 3.0t and 4.2, and around 6.5 for the 3.2 V6. Im not sure about the TDI motors though.

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    Motortrend: 5.9 Seconds

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    APR with their shit stage 1 tune is 4.7 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8nUttJbIDY

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    Quote Originally Posted by NickLim View Post
    APR with their shit stage 1 tune is 4.7 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8nUttJbIDY
    who is your preferred tuner? Im curious what other companies have for their times

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    i dont think it matters which tuner you get they are all around the same power figures give or take a few hp/tq difference. i would skip stage 1 and go straight to 2 and you wont regret it.
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    I think EPL and GIAC have similar performance, but APR has a pretty shitty tune on this platform

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    EPL is a tiny bit better than GIAC

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    Quote Originally Posted by ichi d View Post
    i dont think it matters which tuner you get they are all around the same power figures give or take a few hp/tq difference. i would skip stage 1 and go straight to 2 and you wont regret it.
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    The thing I always found interesting about the APR video is how the car is slower in sport mode than in D.
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    What is the weight of an A6 compared to my Q5? If they are similar, then my stage 2 0-60 taken by Dragy might have some correlation.



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    Seems about right - just raced my friends B8.5 S4 that is stock and I put a gap on him

    Those cars will do about mid to low 4s stock so 4.3 and under seems right.

    A6 actually weighs the same as an s4

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    Quote Originally Posted by NickLim View Post
    Seems about right - just raced my friends B8.5 S4 that is stock and I put a gap on him

    Those cars will do about mid to low 4s stock so 4.3 and under seems right.

    A6 actually weighs the same as an s4
    C6 A6 3.0t is about 300lbs heavier than a B8 S4

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    Quote Originally Posted by NickLim View Post
    EPL is a tiny bit better than GIAC
    I haven't been able to find an official tune from EPL for the C6. I asked on their FB page and was told to email someone for details as its not released yet.



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    Quote Originally Posted by p3u View Post
    C6 A6 3.0t is about 300lbs heavier than a B8 S4
    B8 S4 weighs about 4000 pounds for the manual

    About 4100 or more with the DSG

    The C6 a6 3.0t weighs 4123 pounds


    The only car that weighs a lot more is the a7 at about 5324 pounds....


    The B9 S4 however only weighs 3,500 and will be my next car. That is a true step up in technology with the turbo engine, ZF tranny, and weight reduction that should be consistent with S cars

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    Quote Originally Posted by NickLim View Post
    B8 S4 weighs about 4000 pounds for the manual

    About 4100 or more with the DSG

    The C6 a6 3.0t weighs 4123 pounds


    The only car that weighs a lot more is the a7 at about 5324 pounds....


    The B9 S4 however only weighs 3,500 and will be my next car. That is a true step up in technology with the turbo engine, ZF tranny, and weight reduction that should be consistent with S cars
    C6 A6 3.0t is 4139lbs

    B8 S4 is 3847lbs for manual (292lb difference), 3924lbs for DSG (215lb difference)

    C7 A7 is 4234lbs not 5234 lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p3u View Post
    C6 A6 3.0t is 4139lbs

    B8 S4 is 3847lbs for manual (292lb difference), 3924lbs for DSG (215lb difference)

    C7 A7 is 4234lbs not 5234 lol.
    Hmm I got those s4 weight numbers from some post on this forum where guy actually weighed his car

    Also where did you get that A7 weight number

    I'm pretty sure a7 actually weigh that much because I raced my buddy stage 2 a7 when I was stock and beat him

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    Anyway b8 s4 are tanks 200lb delta between that and an a6 is nothing for the size differences

    I'm really surprised s4 aren't cheaper than a6

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    Quote Originally Posted by NickLim View Post
    Seems about right - just raced my friends B8.5 S4 that is stock and I put a gap on him

    Those cars will do about mid to low 4s stock so 4.3 and under seems right.

    A6 actually weighs the same as an s4
    My Q5 weighs almost 4,400 lbs without driver. So, an EPL Stage 2 single pulley tune A6 should be several tenths quicker than my 4.38 second 0-60 with same mods.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MSq5 View Post
    My Q5 weighs almost 4,400 lbs without driver. So, an EPL Stage 2 single pulley tune A6 should be several tenths quicker than me 0-60 with same mods.
    That q5 is pretty light and a rocketship for the size!

    This 3.0 engine rally the best all around engine Audi ever made imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by NickLim View Post

    I'm pretty sure a7 actually weigh that much because I raced my buddy stage 2 a7 when I was stock and beat him
    You mean the one you raced with a check engine light that was not running correctly and stated so on the following post? Lol

    https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...1#post13104747

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    Quote Originally Posted by p3u View Post
    You mean the one you raced with a check engine light that was not running correctly and stated so on the following post? Lol

    https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...1#post13104747
    True lol

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    It's also salvage title and was in a bad accident

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    Quote Originally Posted by NickLim View Post
    True lol

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    It's also salvage title and was in a bad accident
    Even further validating your car when stock in no way beat a properly running stage 2 3.0t that you kept bragging about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p3u View Post
    Even further validating your car when stock in no way beat a properly running stage 2 3.0t that you kept bragging about.
    Ain't bragging just noting for research purposes

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    Quote Originally Posted by NickLim View Post
    That q5 is pretty light and a rocketship for the size!

    This 3.0 engine rally the best all around engine Audi ever made imo
    Well, I'm 400-500 pounds heavier than an S4, so that ain't light, and I ain't fast compared to comparable S4's. While I'm happy with the progress, when vehicle weight in pounds is still more than 10x your crank horsepower value, it's no rocket ship. More like a fat guy that carries his weight well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MSq5 View Post
    Well, I'm 400-500 pounds heavier than an S4, so that ain't light, and I ain't fast compared to comparable S4's. While I'm happy with the progress, when vehicle weight in pounds is still more than 10x your crank horsepower value, it's no rocket ship. More like a fat guy that carries his weight well.
    Much faster than a Ford explorer!!

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    Anyone know how much heavier the A6 Avant is for comparison?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony81 View Post
    Anyone know how much heavier the A6 Avant is for comparison?


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    Mine's at stage 2 and I've registered a 4.4 to 60.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NickLim View Post
    I think EPL and GIAC have similar performance, but APR has a pretty shitty tune on this platform
    Not sure why you would say that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ynnekdude View Post
    Not sure why you would say that?
    Because I looked at the dyno numbers APR posted and compared it with GIAC and EPL dyno numbers

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    Quote Originally Posted by NickLim View Post
    Because I looked at the dyno numbers APR posted and compared it with GIAC and EPL dyno numbers
    dont get it twisted apr is a great tune. never had a issue with it on my c6.5. epl on the other hand on my s6 is a choppy tune. great power but its not smooth at all. i kind of regret going with epl with the s6.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NickLim View Post
    Because I looked at the dyno numbers APR posted and compared it with GIAC and EPL dyno numbers
    Dyno numbers mean nothing. Far too many variables. Show me some performance figures. While I don't doubt EPL and GIAC have great tunes, I don't see how they're any better than APR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ynnekdude View Post
    Dyno numbers mean nothing. Far too many variables. Show me some performance figures. While I don't doubt EPL and GIAC have great tunes, I don't see how they're any better than APR.
    Where have u been bro? Lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ichi d View Post
    Where have u been bro? Lol.
    For reals... just came out of the wood works.. lol... In either case there is no real better tune. Like you said Ynnek, there are too many variables when it comes to Dynos and not all dynos are the same for each car. Its basically what tuner is close to you and what they offer. APR has been here the longest and is very stable... GIAC offers switchable tunes which is very convenient.. and EPL is good because they offer a tune at home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ynnekdude View Post
    Dyno numbers mean nothing. Far too many variables. Show me some performance figures. While I don't doubt EPL and GIAC have great tunes, I don't see how they're any better than APR.
    I'll try to hit the drag strip soon and see how the times compare to your runs

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    The thing is your 12.5 on pump gas is what S4s are running on the same fuel with same mods

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ynnekdude View Post
    Dyno numbers mean nothing. Far too many variables. Show me some performance figures. While I don't doubt EPL and GIAC have great tunes, I don't see how they're any better than APR.
    This. Dyno numbers mean nothing and only offer any real value when compared on the same car while on the same dyno and same conditions.

    APR has the fastest 3.0t times on the B8 S4, C7 A6 and B8 Q5/SQ5, so they must not be too bad lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NickLim View Post
    The thing is your 12.5 on pump gas is what S4s are running on the same fuel with same mods
    Better get to the track asap and prove us all wrong. You could be the record holder for fastest c6.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ichi d View Post
    Better get to the track asap and prove us all wrong. You could be the record holder for fastest c6.
    That would be crazy haha I would be faster than the S4s if that is the case

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    Quote Originally Posted by ichi d View Post
    dont get it twisted apr is a great tune. never had a issue with it on my c6.5. epl on the other hand on my s6 is a choppy tune. great power but its not smooth at all. i kind of regret going with epl with the s6.
    Yeah. I've seen that APR is better longevity wise and with better overall smoothness, but that leaves the tune a bit held back power wise.

    Companies like EPL and GIAC seem to get more power out, but from what I've heard APR gets great reliability on their tunes.

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    My local track is PIR and I showed up and drag racing was closed today

    They said it might be tomorrow also they are having vintage track days or something idk

    Will have numbers next week for u guys regarding EPL

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