B9 S4 blown motor!

**vliou** · 09-09-2018 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by EuroxS4

I never said theres nothing wrong.I said it could be a production issue or a isolated incident.I am not not affiliated with Audi in any shape or form.Please stop spreading FAKE NEWS!!

You should re-read your posts. Most of us have had enough of your shi*.

**EuroxS4** · 09-09-2018 07:30 PM

You know the new a8 is gonna be a mild hybrid with both a 12v system and a 48volt system as well.Thats gonna be a learning experience on its own.You sure you want to deal with the headaches unreliability you claim all their engines have???

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**vliou** · 09-09-2018 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by EuroxS4

You know the new a8 is gonna be a mild hybrid with both a 12v system and a 48volt system as well.Thats gonna be a learning experience on its own.You sure you want to deal with the headaches unreliability you claim all their engines have???

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The basis of the Audi 55 TFSI is the EA839 with the Continental P0 mild hybrid system. The P0 system, while unproven, is really made up of a 48V system + Lithium Ion battery in the truck with a BAS. It's not really that complex. I'll take my chances with the P0 system, but the critical part of this car is the EA839 engine.

Some of us come from an engineering background, and while I've worked in the automobile engineering field, I'm not as stupid as some may believe. I've done my homework. I know what risks I will take (the P0 system is one of them), and what I won't take (the EA839 engine seizures).

Maybe I'll use an analogy you can understand. Hot blond with cancer and a new handbag. Are you willing to deal with the hot blond with cancer even though she has an unproven handbag, or would you rather know the hot blond is fine with an unproven handbag?

Clear as mud?

**EuroxS4** · 09-09-2018 07:40 PM

So your the magic wizard with all the wrong answers and calculations well no wonder these things are fucking up left and right.

A8 only comes in 2 flavors both of which are unacceptable risks to you.Because their engines are “Unreliable”.

**will13k7** · 09-09-2018 07:46 PM

Originally Posted by EuroxS4

this is pretty accurate.

**murda face** · 09-10-2018 03:24 AM

Originally Posted by EuroxS4

First of all I never said anything about engine failure.I was referring to the fact that many of those cars had issues with timing chains,balance shafts seizing among over various things due to customer negligence to some extent.There was some that were maintained properly yet had to have timing chain and tensioner replaced.I havent seen any 2.0T engine fail at 60k maybe a GM or a Benz.I am in no way familiar with the b7 or b8 generations ive only been a audi customer since 1988 so yeah I know nothing apart from the fact i've owned 5 b8 a4 all with 2.0T and only had timing chain issue on 1 vehicle.The only vehicle that had a sketchy maintnance history.All I can say is my definition of "reliable" and yours are clearly 2 different ones.

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**murda face** · 09-10-2018 03:29 AM

Originally Posted by murda face

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Mine 2.0t done at 40k. Compression and leakdown done every 5k. The results got worse and worse. Too many 2.0t fail cause of ring-land. So I've seen too many failures also talked to head tech who replaced many 2.0t. Said cylinder 3 on almost all of them.

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**electron bom** · 09-10-2018 04:14 AM

wow this thread went downhill fast

**Nez136** · 09-10-2018 07:42 AM

Originally Posted by electron bom

wow this thread went downhill fast

Starting to look like the EvoM forum from 10 years ago. Smh.

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**vdubtx** · 09-10-2018 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by EuroxS4

maybe go back to the future at 88mph

If only we could go back and drop your posts from crapping up this thread.

**EuroxS4** · 09-10-2018 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by murda face

Mine 2.0t done at 40k. Compression and leakdown done every 5k. The results got worse and worse. Too many 2.0t fail cause of ring-land. So I've seen too many failures also talked to head tech who replaced many 2.0t. Said cylinder 3 on almost all of them.

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Those engines that have issue with ringlands are newer engines buddy not CAEB engine code.

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**Filipao** · 09-10-2018 06:51 PM

EuroxS4, wrong thread for you.

Let's get back to the S4 B9 issues.

Please.

**4ringnut** · 09-11-2018 11:40 AM

Hey Guys, remember that time I posted about my engine blowing up? Lol. Wtf happened here? This is why we can’t have nice things.

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**will13k7** · 09-11-2018 11:42 AM

I member.

**vliou** · 09-11-2018 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by 4ringnut

Hey Guys, remember that time I posted about my engine blowing up? Lol. Wtf happened here? This is why we can’t have nice things.

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Any updates?

**4ringnut** · 09-11-2018 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by vliou

Any updates?

Nope, there were 2 cars ahead of mine as of last week. AoA called again to ask if the dealer has contacted me. Apparently the dealer won’t return their calls.

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**Nez136** · 09-11-2018 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by 4ringnut

Nope, there were 2 cars ahead of mine as of last week. AoA called again to ask if the dealer has contacted me. Apparently the dealer won’t return their calls.

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Why would the dealer not talk to them? They get paid by AoA regardless of the outcome.

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**4ringnut** · 09-11-2018 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by Nez136

Why would the dealer not talk to them? They get paid by AoA regardless of the outcome.

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No idea

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**AllroadCorbin** · 09-11-2018 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by 4ringnut

No idea

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Almost time to take your loaner in for an oil change

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**JD23** · 09-12-2018 09:56 AM

Originally Posted by 4ringnut

Nope, there were 2 cars ahead of mine as of last week. AoA called again to ask if the dealer has contacted me. Apparently the dealer won’t return their calls.

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Are the two cars B9s in need of engine repairs or something completely different?

**4ringnut** · 09-12-2018 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by JD23

Are the two cars B9s in need of engine repairs or something completely different?

He just said an A5 and a Q5. I’m guessing it’s an S5 and an SQ5 because an S5 came in with a blown engine a few days before mine.

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**Filipao** · 09-12-2018 04:31 PM

I wonder why nobody is disclosing their engine (in trouble) serial number.

Would like to check how close they are from mine!

Thank you

**4ringnut** · 09-12-2018 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by Filipao

I wonder why nobody is disclosing their engine (in trouble) serial number.

Would like to check how close they are from mine!

Thank you

I would if I had my car

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**Filipao** · 09-12-2018 04:40 PM

Thank you 4ringnut. Thank you.

**Nez136** · 09-12-2018 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by 4ringnut

He just said an A5 and a Q5. I’m guessing it’s an S5 and an SQ5 because an S5 came in with a blown engine a few days before mine.

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It’s possible that it’s just a Q5 or A5, my SA said they have seen a few blown new 2.0ts

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**Filipao** · 09-12-2018 05:49 PM

On engine serial numbers, it might be useful to take a picture (or just make a note) from the one in our own car.

Just in case...

**JD23** · 09-12-2018 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by Nez136

It’s possible that it’s just a Q5 or A5, my SA said they have seen a few blown new 2.0ts

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I had been trying to decide between the A5 and S5 based on which engine should be more reliable, so that complicates things.

**SchnellS4Life** · 09-12-2018 06:33 PM

I had my dealer change my oil at 1,000 miles. I’m thinking that was a good idea! I’m going to do another change at 6,000 miles and just keep doing it every 5,000. Worth it especially since I paid for Audi Care

. I feel like I broke it in right because I seem to get very good mileage. Time will tell, only 4,200 miles!

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**4ringnut** · 09-12-2018 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by JD23

I had been trying to decide between the A5 and S5 based on which engine should be more reliable, so that complicates things.

Why would you even consider the A5 if you can afford an S5?

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**4ringnut** · 09-12-2018 06:45 PM

Originally Posted by SchnellS4Life

I had my dealer change my oil at 1,000 miles. I’m thinking that was a good idea! I’m going to do another change at 6,000 miles and just keep doing it every 5,000. Worth it especially since I paid for Audi Care

. I feel like I broke it in right because I seem to get very good mileage. Time will tell, only 4,200 miles!

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Audicare didn’t cover those oil changes right?

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**SchnellS4Life** · 09-12-2018 06:52 PM

Well I didn’t pay anything for the first one but I believe that was included anyway. They rotated my tires for me as well for free. I think what they will do is just run/write up the next one as the 10,000 mile service so I won’t have to pay, and then the next the 20,000 mile, etc until whatever I paid for runs out (3 years). That’s what all other dealers have done for me in the past. I most likely won’t keep this for more than 2-3 years but I still want to take care of it regardless. It’s wrapped, too 🤦🏻*♂️ somebody will get a nice CPO car LOL.

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**JD23** · 09-12-2018 07:45 PM

Originally Posted by 4ringnut

Why would you even consider the A5 if you can afford an S5?

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I normally spend far less on a car than I can truly afford, but I buy and keep for a significant period of time (> 5 years), so I don't want something that will become a reliability headache. Given Audi's spotty record of new engine reliability, my decision will likely be made by whether I'm confident that the new 3.0T won't be terribly unreliable. Also, the A5 is reasonably quick, so it isn't like downgrading to a Prius.

**4ringnut** · 09-13-2018 01:44 AM

Originally Posted by JD23

I normally spend far less on a car than I can truly afford, but I buy and keep for a significant period of time (> 5 years), so I don't want something that will become a reliability headache. Given Audi's spotty record of new engine reliability, my decision will likely be made by whether I'm confident that the new 3.0T won't be terribly unreliable. Also, the A5 is reasonably quick, so it isn't like downgrading to a Prius.

LOL, do not, under any circumstances keep a luxury car once the warranty runs out.

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**vliou** · 09-13-2018 05:09 AM

Originally Posted by 4ringnut

LOL, do not, under any circumstances keep a luxury car once the warranty runs out.

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If your experience is purely with Audi, I'd concur, but my MB is happily out of warranty and now approaching the 7.5 year, worry free. That said, Audis, in Canada, can have their warranty extended up to 10 years, or 200,000km, for only another $6K (for the A8).

For a more expensive and high end car like the A8, I'd agree, but I'd happily mitigate the risk and pay for the extended warranty.

**4ringnut** · 09-13-2018 05:12 AM

Originally Posted by vliou

If your experience is purely with Audi, I'd concur, but my MB is happily out of warranty and now approaching the 7.5 year, worry free. That said, Audis, in Canada, can have their warranty extended up to 10 years, or 200,000km, for only another $6K (for the A8).

For a more expensive and high end car like the A8, I'd agree, but I'd happily mitigate the risk and pay for the extended warranty.

Owning a luxury car without a warranty is like playing the lottery.

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**JD23** · 09-13-2018 06:52 AM

Originally Posted by 4ringnut

LOL, do not, under any circumstances keep a luxury car once the warranty runs out.

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I've had an Audi for four years out of warranty and spent less than $1000 on repairs. From a pure cost perspective, trading cars every four years will be far more costly, on average, than owning for a few more years outside of warranty. I understand your point for an extremely complex $>100k car, but an A4, or even an S4, is not exactly an exotic. Owning outside of warranty doesn't scare me that much because I can go out and replace the car whenever I want if it were to destroy itself.

**4ringnut** · 09-13-2018 08:17 AM

Originally Posted by JD23

I've had an Audi for four years out of warranty and spent less than $1000 on repairs. From a pure cost perspective, trading cars every four years will be far more costly, on average, than owning for a few more years outside of warranty. I understand your point for an extremely complex $>100k car, but an A4, or even an S4, is not exactly an exotic. Owning outside of warranty doesn't scare me that much because I can go out and replace the car whenever I want if it were to destroy itself.

I prefer to trade in my cars before they are worthless. Hate paying for repairs.
But my biggest thing is boredom.

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**vliou** · 09-13-2018 08:59 AM

Originally Posted by 4ringnut

Owning a luxury car without a warranty is like playing the lottery.

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Just like buying a car in the first place, or owning a car even within warranty is still like playing the lottery.

Some people will blindly just play the game, and others will choose to try and have a better hand, neither is right of course, and both types of players are exercising their right to play as they please.

**4ringnut** · 09-13-2018 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by vliou

Just like buying a car in the first place, or owning a car even within warranty is still like playing the lottery.

Some people will blindly just play the game, and others will choose to try and have a better hand, neither is right of course, and both types of players are exercising their right to play as they please.

You’re right

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