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    parked/neutral rev limiter

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    Met up with a friend who wanted to show off his RS3 engine sound (just sitting in a parking lot, not in gear) and ECU wouldn't let it rev past 3k RPM so wasn't as impressive sounding. I can rev my B8.5 S4 to redline any time but is APR tuned so not sure if that's why. Do the RS3 tunes remove this silly restriction?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dl73 View Post
    Met up with a friend who wanted to show off his RS3 engine sound (just sitting in a parking lot, not in gear) and ECU wouldn't let it rev past 3k RPM so wasn't as impressive sounding. I can rev my B8.5 S4 to redline any time but is APR tuned so not sure if that's why. Do the RS3 tunes remove this silly restriction?
    Custom code does, apr does not. I have both so I know first hand. Also APR closes the valves and reduces the pop and bang, the reason I bought the car! And they open the valves in comfort. Smh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wkraus View Post
    Custom code does, apr does not. I have both so I know first hand. Also APR closes the valves and reduces the pop and bang, the reason I bought the car! And they open the valves in comfort. Smh.
    That sucks Wkraus what a sin for APR to do that, maybe an exhaust controller would help out a bit.The ASR one i picked up sure has changed my exhaust burbles pops etc, but i only have mid pipes without tune.
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    If I remember correctly, APR played with the exhaust valves/pop/bang in the tune because hey had seen evidence of damage to the cats even on the factory tune.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wkraus View Post
    Custom code does, apr does not. I have both so I know first hand. Also APR closes the valves and reduces the pop and bang, the reason I bought the car! And they open the valves in comfort. Smh.
    What a load of horse shit lol. Valves open much earlier with APR, even in comfort mode. In fact, I'm not even considering getting 2nd cat delete because my non sport exhaust became louder. The limited pops and bangs are still there, no difference. No, you cannot rev your engine to death, boo fucking hoo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kashakrs3 View Post
    What a load of horse shit lol. Valves open much earlier with APR, even in comfort mode. In fact, I'm not even considering getting 2nd cat delete because my non sport exhaust became louder. The limited pops and bangs are still there, no difference. No, you cannot rev your engine to death, boo fucking hoo.
    From what APR is saying, they changed the operating parameters for Catalyst protection. Most have said less pops and bangs, but then again i haven't heard of someone buying an RS3 without the sports exhaust before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WAF View Post
    From what APR is saying, they changed the operating parameters for Catalyst protection. Most have said less pops and bangs, but then again i haven't heard of someone buying an RS3 without the sports exhaust before.
    Non-sport is plenty loud actually, especially after the tune. I wanted aluminum optics with Ara, black exhaust tips would look out of place IMO. Plus wife doesn't complain, paint doesn't peel :P It has its benefits.
    I don't care for pops and bangs. If their adjustments do protect Catalyst - good. If they don't - whatever. I'd much rather listen to open intake sound anyways.
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    Why do people make things up?

    Neutral Rev

    Stock. But, if people want it higher, we'll change it and put that into the next release.

    Valves closed / reduced pops and bangs.

    No. We don't forced the valves close when you're revving it.
    No, we don't reduce pops and bangs. We do enable the protection routine so it protects the catalyst if it gets too hot. (It will melt otherwise).

    Valves open in comfort.

    No. We don't force them open. Valve actuation is load based. When you go nearly wide open throttle, they open to let the engine properly breather, make more power, less back pressure, lower temperture, and better drivability.
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    I'm most interested in the free neutral revving, as I will likely be using a valve-less track exhaust in the future. Hearing that will be a treat for me whether parked or on throttle in gear.

    So +1 from me for high limiter in neutral.
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    Besides its not comfort which relates to suspension/steering setting mainly, its DRIVE vs SPORT, doesn't matter what mode you are in dynamic, comfort, etc. In drive the valves are load based, if you give it enough throttle it will open the valves when you are in drive. Obviously in sport the valves are basically opened.

    Rev limiter in N is stock, no change as stated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arin@APR View Post
    Why do people make things up?

    Neutral Rev

    Stock. But, if people want it higher, we'll change it and put that into the next release.

    Valves closed / reduced pops and bangs.

    No. We don't forced the valves close when you're revving it.
    No, we don't reduce pops and bangs. We do enable the protection routine so it protects the catalyst if it gets too hot. (It will melt otherwise).

    Valves open in comfort.

    No. We don't force them open. Valve actuation is load based. When you go nearly wide open throttle, they open to let the engine properly breather, make more power, less back pressure, lower temperture, and better drivability.
    Thanks for the feedback Arin.

    I think one thing that might be cool but not sure if it can be done with a DSG TCU tune? But with the PDK and in manual mode you pull and hold both the down and up shift paddle shifters and the car goes to neutral and you can give the car some revs. Sounds awesome when cruising and want to give others around you some high revs. You let go of the paddle shifters and returns to previous gear.


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    +1 vote for neutral rev in next APR release.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KiddJoey View Post
    Thanks for the feedback Arin.

    I think one thing that might be cool but not sure if it can be done with a DSG TCU tune? But with the PDK and in manual mode you pull and hold both the down and up shift paddle shifters and the car goes to neutral and you can give the car some revs. Sounds awesome when cruising and want to give others around you some high revs. You let go of the paddle shifters and returns to previous gear.


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    I second this! The R8 currently does it if I'm not mistaken, this would be f***ing awesome!
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    Quote Originally Posted by KiddJoey View Post
    Thanks for the feedback Arin.

    I think one thing that might be cool but not sure if it can be done with a DSG TCU tune? But with the PDK and in manual mode you pull and hold both the down and up shift paddle shifters and the car goes to neutral and you can give the car some revs. Sounds awesome when cruising and want to give others around you some high revs. You let go of the paddle shifters and returns to previous gear.
    I'd love to do that, but I don't think it's possible without some sort of code rework which we haven't figured out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arin@APR View Post
    I'd love to do that, but I don't think it's possible without some sort of code rework which we haven't figured out.
    Rip the R8 coding, and see if it can be done on the RS3...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arin@APR View Post
    Why do people make things up?

    Neutral Rev

    Stock. But, if people want it higher, we'll change it and put that into the next release.

    Valves closed / reduced pops and bangs.

    No. We don't forced the valves close when you're revving it.
    No, we don't reduce pops and bangs. We do enable the protection routine so it protects the catalyst if it gets too hot. (It will melt otherwise).

    Valves open in comfort.

    No. We don't force them open. Valve actuation is load based. When you go nearly wide open throttle, they open to let the engine properly breather, make more power, less back pressure, lower temperture, and better drivability.
    This is an outright lie Arin. I believe you think you have our facts but you simply don’t. They actually even will open at 1500. I did it today. At 15% pedal and 50% torque. Please please please refund this tune so I can go back to custom code. Literally every single thing about that tune was better including the customer service. Valves stayed closed 100% in comfort and both 100% open in sport. And they did that change the following day when I asked. The factory tune opens them between 3500 and 4000 if I remember. Want another video for proof to show you’re lying? I just want to take my car back to the dealer, refund this tune, and go back to my garage and flash my good tune back on. Thanks

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    "They actually even will open at 1500. I did it today. At 15% pedal and 50% torque."


    Unacceptable IMO. I have the APR IC ready to go and have an appointment to get the flash on the 24th and this still has me second guessing my choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by achenator View Post
    "They actually even will open at 1500. I did it today. At 15% pedal and 50% torque."


    Unacceptable IMO. I have the APR IC ready to go and have an appointment to get the flash on the 24th and this still has me second guessing my choice.
    Unitronic doesn't do that ;)

    Don't need an appointment to flash your own car either :)
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    For the love of god, can you please be a little bit, just a tiny bit more discreet with advertising Unitronic? This kind of stuff is so cringy it makes me not want to get their products, even though they are local and make quality stuff. Or get a banner already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saxon View Post
    Unitronic doesn't do that ;)

    Don't need an appointment to flash your own car either :)
    But does it let you rev in neutral!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kashakrs3 View Post
    For the love of god, can you please be a little bit, just a tiny bit more discreet with advertising Unitronic? This kind of stuff is so cringy it makes me not want to get their products, even though they are local and make quality stuff. Or get a banner already.
    Couldn't have said it better, Uni does good things, but then you get that one guy who takes it to the next level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kashakrs3 View Post
    For the love of god, can you please be a little bit, just a tiny bit more discreet with advertising Unitronic? This kind of stuff is so cringy it makes me not want to get their products, even though they are local and make quality stuff. Or get a banner already.
    Sooooo much this!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kashakrs3 View Post
    For the love of god, can you please be a little bit, just a tiny bit more discreet with advertising Unitronic? This kind of stuff is so cringy it makes me not want to get their products, even though they are local and make quality stuff. Or get a banner already.
    I'm sorry that you feel that way, sometimes my passion for this chassis and Unitronic can be a bit much. I always try to stay relevant to a post and will consider what you've said in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wkraus View Post
    refund this tune
    We have a 30 day money back guarantee. Go get a refund.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arin@APR View Post
    We have a 30 day money back guarantee. Go get a refund.
    How about addressing the rest of the post? 1500 rpm and 50% load in comfort?

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    Quote Originally Posted by achenator View Post
    How about addressing the rest of the post? 1500 rpm and 50% load in comfort?
    Buddy, he's openly said what happens, I have the APR tune, when I'm in comfort the valves don't open unless I put the pedal down enough to drop a couple of gears. If my wife or I are driving in the city or on the highway in comfort like normal slow people, the valves NEVER open. If I push it enough to pass someone, yes they open and the turbo spools, the car drops a gear or 2 or 3 and it moves quickly.

    My valves do not open until I'm pushing it hard enough in comfort.
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    Thank you for providing real world feedback Nicholas!
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    I am currently on the E85 map from APR and couldn't be happier! I've got a downpipe, midpipe and non resonated Milltek exhaust that uses OEM valve control, and my valves only open under certain load like Arin mentioned. Otherwise they are closed and the car is quiet. It's all throttle based!
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