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    Spark Plug Recommendations - Stage 2

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    Just wondering what you all suggest as far as plugs go for a stage 2 car. One step colder or OEM?

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    Veteran Member Four Rings Dasquade's Avatar
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    Personally i would go for the "one step colder/race plugs" for NGK. You could still go with the oem ones but better go one step up.
    Just wondering, just like the "recommanded" oil change interval, if plugs shouldnt be changed sooner (oem's are normally 60.000km good...lol). I would say 20.000km...those cheaper ones (forgot name) are even recommanded to be changed ever 10.000km (or you get a change the porseline/white starts to break off..and you do not want that in your cilinder!).
    *just my view on it...

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    What about stage 1? Should we stick to oem or do the one step colder as well?
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    Established Member Two Rings i8snitches's Avatar
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    About to do my service for 65k... Any recommendation on NGK (94460) PFR8S8EG Laser Platinum Spark Plug?
    2014 A6 3.0T
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    Although APR has recommended Denso IHK24 spark plugs gapped at .024" with our cars (and what I'm running now), more folks are switching back to the newest OEM RS7 spark plugs. Part# 079-905-626-M which replaced 079-905-626-G. These should work well with Stage 2 and Stage 3. I'll likely switch to them soon, as I've been experiencing an uptick on the misfires that are being logged by my car.
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    I changed mine out a month or so ago when I went stage 1. Originally went with the Denso IKH24s but had an insulator fail on plug #4 and had an uptick in misfires as well.

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    So I swapped them out for the RS7 plugs (079-905-626-M) and gapped them down to .022 and things have been much better since.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OlyS6 View Post
    Although APR has recommended Denso IHK24 spark plugs gapped at .024" with our cars (and what I'm running now), more folks are switching back to the newest OEM RS7 spark plugs. Part# 079-905-626-M which replaced 079-905-626-G. These should work well with Stage 2 and Stage 3. I'll likely switch to them soon, as I've been experiencing an uptick on the misfires that are being logged by my car.
    Thats correct but Audi changed again spark now the number is 06k905601M and that Spark works really good with stage 1 and 2

    Rs6 Performance, Catless Downpipes, Straight Exhaust, Loba High Fuel Pumps, Forge Intercooler, Arma Intake ....

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    Old vs. New and article Nr

    Rs6 Performance, Catless Downpipes, Straight Exhaust, Loba High Fuel Pumps, Forge Intercooler, Arma Intake ....

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    Established Member Two Rings rhinoboymtl's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuner1 View Post
    Thats correct but Audi changed again spark now the number is 06k905601M and that Spark works really good with stage 1 and 2

    Rs6 Performance, Catless Downpipes, Straight Exhaust, Loba High Fuel Pumps, Forge Intercooler, Arma Intake ....
    You are correct. I just went and double checked the packaging and mine are the latest 06k905601M as well. For some reason I thought otherwise. In any case these have been working much better for me than the Denso IKH24.

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    Thank you for all the feedback! Sounds like I’m going with the OEM RS7 plugs with PN ending in M

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    Established Member Two Rings i8snitches's Avatar
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    Assuming this is just for the 4.0T engine... Curious for those with A6 Stage 2 what spark plugs used...
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    UPCOMING: Custom TCU tune

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    Senior Member Two Rings
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    At stage I right now with OEM plug. No issues. About to have 35K mile service done and it includes the plugs. Believe a NGK plug is the new Audi plug. Will be checking on that. If info is correct, I am having the NGK put in. I run NGK's in my other vehicles I have modified and they are excellent.

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    Senior Member Three Rings Ghost2112's Avatar
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    I'm running the new NGK's and they are absolutely perfect aside from a slight twitch in the idle.... I HIGHLY recommend them for APR stage 1 or 2 tuning.

    Oh and FYI, APR dropped their recommendation for Denso's a while ago after a bunch of us experienced tons of cyl 5 misfiring...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuner1 View Post
    Thats correct but Audi changed again spark now the number is 06k905601M and that Spark works really good with stage 1 and 2

    Rs6 Performance, Catless Downpipes, Straight Exhaust, Loba High Fuel Pumps, Forge Intercooler, Arma Intake ....
    Ugh, wish I knew people were having issues with these. Now they will just be $100 paperweights for me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuner1 View Post
    Old vs. New and article Nr

    Rs6 Performance, Catless Downpipes, Straight Exhaust, Loba High Fuel Pumps, Forge Intercooler, Arma Intake ....

    I agree run the same ones on my stage 2 APR with DP's.

    Been running great on these plugs gapped to 0.024.

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    Any DIY for plug replacement?
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    Quote Originally Posted by goliath1 View Post
    Any DIY for plug replacement?
    https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...ght=spark+plug

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    Apr 27, 2009 · #1
    1.8T Spark plug guide
    *Edit - Note: This spark plug guide is for the 1.8T motor. 2.8 V6 guys will find this info not so useful.

    So i have gotten many spark plug PM's so i decided to put all the info in one spot. so lets talk plugs.


    Plugs for the Passat fall into 3 categories stock, chipped, big turbo

    Stock, stick with the stock plugs, stock gap and you are good to go, upgrading the plugs on a completely stock engine provides no gains at all. Stock plugs are either Bosch F7LTCR, or NGK BCP6ET or NGK PFR6Q

    Chipped here is where things can get tricky, most people have good luck with stock plugs stock gap and things are fine most of the time, but if you start to get misfires, or stumbling it might be time to change the plugs to something a little bit colder. You can get away with a one stage colder plug such as the Bosch F6DTC or NGK BKR7E using the stock .028 gap and things work fine. If you are modified past just a chip such as exhaust, FMIC, testpipe, intake, or other things like bumped timing and you still have misfires or stumbling it might be time to close the gap a little bit to .026

    Big turbo plugs, here is where things get fun stock plugs no good, one stage colder like above work but you need to tighten the gap down to .024 to get not to misfire the Bosch F6DTC or NGK BKR7E are a good choice and work fine once you tighten the gap down. Or even step down to 2 stages colder using the FR5DTC


    Plug numbers

    Bosch
    OEM heat range F7LTCR
    One stage colder F6DTC
    Two stages colder FR5DTC

    NGK
    OEM heat range BCP6ET
    One stage colder BKR7E
    dont know the NGK Two stage colder part number if someone does post it up please

    Denso plugs
    OEM heat range ik20
    One stage colder ik22
    Two stages colder ik24


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