RS7 Dynamic Package questions

[2Tired]

So, I have read through a bunch of debate threads on DRC vs Air, but even still, I have yet to find a few reliable answers to some of my questions. I am looking at picking up either a 15 or 16 RS7 in the next month or two, leaning toward 15 because I like the front end look better, and want to narrow down the option list I'll be looking for. I will not be taking this car to a track, but will eventually run it at the strip on occasion.

Ideally I'd like to find a Dynamic Edition RS7 somewhere in the country, to roadtrip back in, but in the likely event that I can't find one, here is what I'm wondering:

-How close to the DRC can you get the handling of the car, on air suspension, with Eurocode front and rear sway bars? I like the adjust-ability of the air suspension, and recently moved to a city with AWFUL roads, so it could be nice, but I do not enjoy body roll in a performance car.

-Does the Dynamic Package do anything to change the steering feel/communication, or is the steering the same for both, and the suspension/brake color the only difference?


I appreciate any input.

[ericw.]

I drive pretty hard and the sway bars make a world of difference. Combine with an air ride controller and they handle great for being the land yacht it is.

Know it's weakness and use the 8cyl twin turbos on corner exit and most drivers in any car won't keep up.

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Eurocode sway bars? I doubt. Personally my experience (after a case when they REFUSED to sell me their bushings!)
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This happened on a straight and smooth road.
And one more published and known to me case:

https://www.drive2.com/l/10159912/
https://www.drive2.com/l/456810248775139675/
(broke in exactly the same place)


Production defect. It tears apart where welding is used (wtf why welding is there as it makes steel weak). No refund or replace, certainly :) Despite it's a repeating issue on different cars and the engeneering failure is obvious. There should not be any welding on such parts which bare twisting loads.

Moscow Eurocode dealers are real mo********ers. They keep telling everyone it's... INAPPROPRIATE INSTALL. My god, it's impossible to install them in such a wrong way that a car runs several thousand miles with no issues at all and then they suddenly crash. Hilarious.

Running H&R (cast with no welding near bushings) with no problem since then. By the way, much more noticeable effect. Would recommend.

Dear Eurocode, you really ought to sort the shit out with your Russian official dealers. You really loose reputation on our market because of such issues. Don't know if you care. Just for information. Btw, they even sell some ECU and TCU firmware of unknown origin using your brand name.

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Talking on thread subject. I'm also in confusion between air and drc. Is drc really comfortable in comfort mode? Has someone tried both? If to compare... is drc in comfort mode as soft as air in dynamic?

And what's the drc clearance? Lower than air in dynamic or same? How much lower if anyone knows?

[2Tired]

Talking on thread subject. I'm also in confusion between air and drc. Is drc really comfortable in comfort mode? Has someone tried both? If to compare... is drc in comfort mode as soft as air in dynamic?

And what's the drc clearance? Lower than air in dynamic or same? How much lower if anyone knows?

I'm almost positive that vehicles with DRC sit higher than those with air at all times, and are not height adjustable at all.

[Despise]

I'm almost positive that vehicles with DRC sit higher than those with air at all times, and are not height adjustable at all.

This is true, DRC cars sit pretty high up, higher than comfort mode air cars.

As for ride comfort, comfort mode in a DRC car is very floaty/soft, dynamic is polar opposite and extremely firm (annoyingly bouncy)

[2Tired]

This is true, DRC cars sit pretty high up, higher than comfort mode air cars.

As for ride comfort, comfort mode in a DRC car is very floaty/soft, dynamic is polar opposite and extremely firm (annoyingly bouncy)

I notice that your sig says you deleted your DRC suspension. Was that for the height adjustment benefits, or handling?

[Despise]

I notice that your sig says you deleted your DRC suspension. Was that for the height adjustment benefits, or handling?

Height adjustment, ride quality, and handling. All around a better driving experience in my opinion

[3g_bishi]

Height adjustment, ride quality, and handling. All around a better driving experience in my opinion

Hello

I have a 2015 RS7

It does not have air suspension so does that mean it has DRC suspension? Also what does DRC mean exactly?


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[carx7]

DRC is Dynamic Ride Control. It is a convention spring system that uses magnetically control fluid to adjust damping. The DRC connects opposite corners of the car hydraulically which is supposed to help body roll in corners etc. DRC was an expensive factory option ~$5k IIRC.

My first car had air, and my current car is a Dynamic Edition with DRC so I can speak to both.

1. The Dynamic Edition car is reference to an interior package (black interior, suede headliner, red stitching). The Dymanic Edition cars also had Dynamic Suspension, which is DRC.
2. You can get Dynamic Suspension on the Rs7 without the interior package of the Dynamic Edition.
3. Ride height is indeed non-adjustable on Dynamic Suspension cars. You drop the DRC(as posted above), or purchase KW height adjustable springs to mechanically lower a DRC car. I purchased KWs but have not installed yet so cannot comment on ride with them.
4. A DRC car is MORE FIRM than air on comfort and SIGNIFICANTLY STIFFER in Dynamic Mode.
5. Cornering: My experience over the years says you aren't going to get the same performance with air that you get with DRC. Period. It's like my trying to Make my 335 an M3 with a few power mods. It's not the same physics and chassis dynamics. That said, on the street I don't see a noticeable difference that is worth the headache.

Unless you are legitimately trying to drive this car on a race track I'm not sure of the point in DRC. I thought I had to have DRC when I picked up a new car because " it was a $5k option so it must be better". It has been a headache for me, and in my area I miss the air suspension ability to raise and lower the car for parking lots, etc. I also happen to like the "slammed look" that air can provide at the press of a button.

Body roll, I'm sure it's better on the DRC. I have Eurocode Sways on my DRC so roll is minimal. These are 4700 lb land yachts also.... so you will certainly get some. My air car with Eurocodes had less than I expected for the size of the car.

Final point, my DRC when out under warranty and Audi had my car for a month just trying to get fluid out of Germany. Unacceptable IMO.

As for colors, you can get cars with red brakes. My first one had it. It was a $250 dealer option. Lots of cars have them, you just have to look for them.
There is no real difference in the suspension color so not sure what you've seen there.

[3g_bishi]

DRC is Dynamic Ride Control. It is a convention spring system that uses magnetically control fluid to adjust damping. The DRC connects opposite corners of the car hydraulically which is supposed to help body roll in corners etc. DRC was an expensive factory option ~$5k IIRC.

My first car had air, and my current car is a Dynamic Edition with DRC so I can speak to both.

1. The Dynamic Edition car is reference to an interior package (black interior, suede headliner, red stitching). The Dymanic Edition cars also had Dynamic Suspension, which is DRC.
2. You can get Dynamic Suspension on the Rs7 without the interior package of the Dynamic Edition.
3. Ride height is indeed non-adjustable on Dynamic Suspension cars. You drop the DRC(as posted above), or purchase KW height adjustable springs to mechanically lower a DRC car. I purchased KWs but have not installed yet so cannot comment on ride with them.
4. A DRC car is MORE FIRM than air on comfort and SIGNIFICANTLY STIFFER in Dynamic Mode.
5. Cornering: My experience over the years says you aren't going to get the same performance with air that you get with DRC. Period. It's like my trying to Make my 335 an M3 with a few power mods. It's not the same physics and chassis dynamics. That said, on the street I don't see a noticeable difference that is worth the headache.

Unless you are legitimately trying to drive this car on a race track I'm not sure of the point in DRC. I thought I had to have DRC when I picked up a new car because " it was a $5k option so it must be better". It has been a headache for me, and in my area I miss the air suspension ability to raise and lower the car for parking lots, etc. I also happen to like the "slammed look" that air can provide at the press of a button.

Body roll, I'm sure it's better on the DRC. I have Eurocode Sways on my DRC so roll is minimal. These are 4700 lb land yachts also.... so you will certainly get some. My air car with Eurocodes had less than I expected for the size of the car.

Final point, my DRC when out under warranty and Audi had my car for a month just trying to get fluid out of Germany. Unacceptable IMO.

As for colors, you can get cars with red brakes. My first one had it. It was a $250 dealer option. Lots of cars have them, you just have to look for them.
There is no real difference in the suspension color so not sure what you've seen there.

My car says Audi exclusive
Has carbon fiber lips, carbon fiber interior trim, alcantara head liner, dsg suspension, and red stitching. Do you think it was custom ordered or was just made like that?

Also where does the DRC fluid go how do you know if it’s low or how do you service it


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[carx7]

Do you think it was custom ordered or was just made like that?

Also where does the DSG fluid go how do you know if it’s low or how do you service it

Not sure there is anyway to know without having the window sticker.
The Exclusive badge means it is different from the standard option. In many cases it's custom, in my case, it was a limited package (Dynamic Edition) so it has a uniquie interior (red stitching) and therefore got the "Exclusive" badge.

You said DSG, but I assume you meant DRC. To my knowledge, that system is non-serviceable by anyone other than Audi.

[3g_bishi]

Sorry that’s what I mean, ok thanks for the info. Is there a way I can get that window sticker maybe from the dealer ship


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[Cris_OO7]

Sorry that’s what I mean, ok thanks for the info. Is there a way I can get that window sticker maybe from the dealer ship


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You can try this website.
http://www.wikilender.com/ultimate-w...-decoder-tool/


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