18 RS3 - 0-60 Test

[MichiganRS3]

Did a few launches after hitting 600 miles.
This is the best that she could do.
ESC was 'OFF' (not sport)
Left at about 3400 rpm and 4.2psi.
Looking at the video slowly, if I had left a half second earlier, it looks like it would have left on over 5.3psi.

Spoiler - 3.84 0-60

Not sure how the car mag's were hitting 3.5/6's

[r26372]

Did a few launches after hitting 600 miles.
This is the best that she could do.
ESC was 'OFF' (not sport)
Left at about 3400 rpm and 4.2psi.
Looking at the video slowly, if I had left a half second earlier, it looks like it would have left on over 5.3psi.

Spoiler - 3.84 0-60

Not sure how the car mag's were hitting 3.5/6's

Car mags usually have a 1 foot rollout before the clock starts. This reduces times by about .2-.3 so you're right in line with reality.

[davebeats]

and they use an 80lb 4' midget

[MichiganRS3]

and they use an 80lb 4' midget

HAHAHAAH. So at 6'2 200lbs+ I'm good for another couple tenths. ;)

[iceman302]

I’m sure that running on a track (with at least some amount of prep or rubber down) will yield better traction than the street.

Also, your car still might pick up a little more performance after a few more miles on the clock. 600 is still pretty green/tight.

[dazed1]

With the waylens, is it capturing throttle and brake inputs? Looking for something for track use.

[Burningcoals]

Did a few launches after hitting 600 miles.
This is the best that she could do.
ESC was 'OFF' (not sport)
Left at about 3400 rpm and 4.2psi.
Looking at the video slowly, if I had left a half second earlier, it looks like it would have left on over 5.3psi.

Spoiler - 3.84 0-60

Not sure how the car mag's were hitting 3.5/6's

I have a bunch of 3.8’s. 3.82 was my last one in sport TC mode. So you are right in line.

[BaltimoreCaesar]

my buddy clocked a 3.7 in my car, so your seems to be right in line (no doubt more accurate than using the stopwatch feature on my friends phone)

[saxon]

3.7/3.8 is what my car was pulling stock as well

3.2 with Unitronic 1+

i feel with the beta stage 2 i am pulling 3.0's now

[noswalz]

What are you guys getting without launch control and just flooring from a standstill?

[Potatohead_RS3]

What are you guys getting without launch control and just flooring from a standstill?

I don't really know why anyone wants to do this?

[SpaTech]

I don't really know why anyone wants to do this?

call me old school but ... mechanical sympathy?

[MichiganRS3]

About 1100 miles now.

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[MichiganRS3]

About 4000 miles and a few upgrades now.

APR Turbo Inlet and Intake
APR IC
APR Stage 1 e85 tune
E72 fuel
Stock tires
Full Weight


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[Venumous]

About 4000 miles and a few upgrades now.

APR Turbo Inlet and Intake
APR IC
APR Stage 1 e85 tune
E72 fuel
Stock tires
Full Weight


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Very nice man. How was the install on the turbo inlet?

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[MichiganRS3]

Very nice man. How was the install on the turbo inlet?

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Took it to local shop. They charged me an arm and a leg. I had heard it was about 2 hours on the ground, and about 30 min on a hoist. My shop said it was about 2-2.5 hrs on a hoist.

[S3DUDE]

^^ so the part is like $600 plus two or two and a half hours of labor for the install that is closer to $1000. That is very step price.

[Bours]

^^ so the part is like $600 plus two or two and a half hours of labor for the install that is closer to $1000. That is very step price.

unitronic comes out with an inlet very soon im curious to see the price

[NelsDMAX]

Anxiously waiting to see UNI’s and IE’s turbo inlet...!!! 🧐


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[John P.]

Pretty sure the car mags all tested cars with ceramic brakes (less unsprung weight).

[MichiganRS3]

Figured before I put her away for the winter I’d give the 60-130 test a shot.
APR Stage 1+ - 93 Octane Tune

60-100 - 4.02
60-130 - 9.26

[MichiganRS3]

Updated Times
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[Vegasgolds]

Updated Times
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2.82 secs for how much money?

this is in GTR, C8 territory for less money!

What is your approx HP now?

[MichiganRS3]

2.82 secs for how much money?

this is in GTR, C8 territory for less money!

What is your approx HP now?

Main change from last year was a switch from APR tune to Unitronic. Stage 2 E85 tune.

VanCityAudi has a video showing power on the stage2 E85 unitronic tune.

[MichiganRS3]

A little better DA (around 2k)

EDITED: Forgot to add, that since the last post I have switched over from Stage 2 to Stage 3 TTE700.
This run was rolling into it from 40 in 2nd.
Full Weight (as delivered) and over 3/4 tank of fuel.

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[MerakiAutoworks]

Love this thread!!

-Josh

[brad65ford]

A little better DA (around 2k)

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Assuming you have weight removed to get in the 6's on stage 2 e85. Regardless that bitch is moving.

[MichiganRS3]

Sorry for the confusion. I forgot to include that I have switched over to Stage 3 between the last run.

My best Stage 2 60-130 was not on APR (8.05) but was on Unitronic (7.46).


Stage 2 E85 bests:
0-60 - 2.82 - (Unitronic)
60-130 - 7.46 (Unitronic)
1/8 - 6.84 @ 105.07 (Unitronic)
1/4 - 10.67 @ 129.03 (Unitronic)
1/2 - 151.37 (APR)

Bests Stage 3 E70:
0-60 - 2.89 spinning
60-130 - 6.26
1/8 -
1/4 -
1/2 -

[brad65ford]

that makes sense now lol. Very nice, you numbers for uni seem right in line.

[TheContrarian]

When I was on Unitronic stg 1+, no TCU tune, I could get a 0 to 60 in the 3.4x range.

Since adding stg 2 TCU a couple weeks back, the best I have managed is 3.66. This was confirmed during a drag strip visit a couple weeks back during which I had slower 60 foot times than when I was bone stock. What is going on?

[Dominick's S4]

When I was on Unitronic stg 1+, no TCU tune, I could get a 0 to 60 in the 3.4x range.

Since adding stg 2 TCU a couple weeks back, the best I have managed is 3.66. This was confirmed during a drag strip visit a couple weeks back during which I had slower 60 foot times than when I was bone stock. What is going on?

Summertime high DA and conditions?? How are your tires now compared to your no TCU tune runs? I have experienced .5 second difference in 1/4 mile times and up to 5 mph difference in trap speed between great and bad conditions.

I had APR for the first 5 months and have been on Unitronic for the past 5 months. In all fairness I never really got to run the apr files in good DA weather conditions.

Stage 1+ E85 bests:
0-60 - 2.83 with 1' rollout (Unitronic)
60-130 - 7.86 (Unitronic)
1/8 - 7.05 @ 102.28 (Unitronic)
1/4 - 10.85 @ 129.78 (Unitronic)
1/2 - 155.59 (Unitronic)

[Leonitus86]

Summertime high DA and conditions?? How are your tires now compared to your no TCU tune runs? I have experienced .5 second difference in 1/4 mile times and up to 5 mph difference in trap speed between great and bad conditions.

I had APR for the first 5 months and have been on Unitronic for the past 5 months. In all fairness I never really got to run the apr files in good DA weather conditions.

Stage 1+ E85 bests:
0-60 - 2.83 with 1' rollout (Unitronic)
60-130 - 7.86 (Unitronic)
1/8 - 7.05 @ 102.28 (Unitronic)
1/4 - 10.85 @ 129.78 (Unitronic)
1/2 - 155.59 (Unitronic)

I don't get how you could spend x amount of money on one tune, and then just forget what you spent and throw down money on another tune? Just baffling to me. Like I'd rather spend that 1k on something else on the car or myself etc. Idk, not hating on you, just puzzled with the circumstances.

[doa]

Sorry for the confusion. I forgot to include that I have switched over to Stage 3 between the last run.

My best Stage 2 60-130 was not on APR (8.05) but was on Unitronic (7.46).


Stage 2 E85 bests:
0-60 - 2.82 - (Unitronic)
60-130 - 7.46 (Unitronic)
1/8 - 6.84 @ 105.07 (Unitronic)
1/4 - 10.67 @ 129.03 (Unitronic)
1/2 - 151.37 (APR)

Bests Stage 3 E70:
0-60 -
60-130 - 6.26
1/8 -
1/4 -
1/2 -

Sorry for the confusion. I forgot to include that I have switched over to Stage 3 between the last run.

My best Stage 2 60-130 was not on APR (8.05) but was on Unitronic (7.46).


Stage 2 E85 bests:
0-60 - 2.82 - (Unitronic)
60-130 - 7.46 (Unitronic)
1/8 - 6.84 @ 105.07 (Unitronic)
1/4 - 10.67 @ 129.03 (Unitronic)
1/2 - 151.37 (APR)

Bests Stage 3 E70:
0-60 -
60-130 - 6.26
1/8 -
1/4 -
1/2 -

Thanks for putting this thread together, and for all the updates — I appreciate it. Can you confirm all the the hardware you have and the costs? Is it still the same stuff from the original post?


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[Dominick's S4]

I don't get how you could spend x amount of money on one tune, and then just forget what you spent and throw down money on another tune? Just baffling to me. Like I'd rather spend that 1k on something else on the car or myself etc. Idk, not hating on you, just puzzled with the circumstances.

No need to hate or be puzzled.. Did you see my video with the DSG bouncing off the rev limiter from 2-3? It was also bouncing from 4-5 but did not post the video.. I road track, autox and drag my RS3 often and the way the DGS was behaving was unacceptable to me. Not sure you are aware of this but both APR and Unitronic will provide you with a 20%+ discount if you go to them from one of their competitors so that is what I did. I have had four previous cars tuned by APR with much success so I trusted their products and went with them first but after spending 2 months testing APR tcu files and working with APR to unsuccessfully fix the TCU tune from bouncing off the rev limiter I decided to give Unitronic a try with the 20% discount and 30 day refund option and never looked back.

Even though I conducted a lot of research I don't always get it right the first time every time. I also originally purchased and installed the APR pendulum mount and dogbone insert but bent the mount and insert and experienced excessive wheel hop when launching so I removed the APR Mount and dogbone insert and replaced it with the ECE Poly Mount and now it's better. I've been buying, tuning and racing cars for the past 40 years and at this point in my life I don't mind spending some extra money to make things work right.. So now I have both tunes to lean in on and the next owner will have multiple options to choose from too.

[MichiganRS3]

I don't get how you could spend x amount of money on one tune, and then just forget what you spent and throw down money on another tune? Just baffling to me. Like I'd rather spend that 1k on something else on the car or myself etc. Idk, not hating on you, just puzzled with the circumstances.

Well, it was actually about $2500 between APR ECU tune(and shop flashes / reflashes), map switching, mobile dongle, and TVS DSG tunes that I ‘threw away’. And the reason was, the car was not performing to the level I felt it should be. Yes, it sucks to lose that money, and there are LOTS of other things I could have done with it, but making sure the bigger investment (the car) is running right was worth it to me to make the switch.

APR is part of a huge organization. Getting personal attention for individual problems was difficult. Having to pay between $60 and $120 and drive an hour and a half round trip every time a new flash revision came out was painful.

With Unitronic I get fast response to questions, and the ability to change the tune at home, and ECU & TCU tune that we’re designed to work together.

[MichiganRS3]

Thanks for putting this thread together, and for all the updates — I appreciate it. Can you confirm all the the hardware you have and the costs? Is it still the same stuff from the original post?


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I paid full retail for all parts.
The prices for all the APR stuff is available at goapr.com and 034 parts.

Here is my full list of mods today:
Tune:
Unitronic Stage 3 ECU & TCU
Engine mods:
TTE-700 (used)
APR Intake & Inlet
APR IC
SRM TB Inlet
APR Downpipe & midpipes
Unitronic Injectors
NGK R7437-9 Plugs
Fuel-IT ECA
Forge Engine Catch Can
Drivetrain mods:
APR Pendulum Mount & Dogbone
APR DSG Catch Can
034 Street Mounts
Suspension:
034 Subframe Collars
Wheels:
APR A01 19x8.5 Gunmetal - 8mm Spacers (front)
Tires:
Continental ExtremeContact Sport (Stock Staggered Sizes)
Camera System:
Waylens Horizon

[doa]

Wow, thanks for putting that list together! Looking forward to seeing your stage 3 0-60 time


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[GTCRS3]

One thing to try is to set your suspension to comfort. My experience and that of others that have posted is that comfort mode allows for more rear end squat and can help with your 60 foot time.

I found it was good for at least .1 off my 60 stock and uni 1+ e85. I’m on stock staggered wheels and tires.


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[Leonitus86]

Well, it was actually about $2500 between APR ECU tune(and shop flashes / reflashes), map switching, mobile dongle, and TVS DSG tunes that I ‘threw away’. And the reason was, the car was not performing to the level I felt it should be. Yes, it sucks to lose that money, and there are LOTS of other things I could have done with it, but making sure the bigger investment (the car) is running right was worth it to me to make the switch.

APR is part of a huge organization. Getting personal attention for individual problems was difficult. Having to pay between $60 and $120 and drive an hour and a half round trip every time a new flash revision came out was painful.

With Unitronic I get fast response to questions, and the ability to change the tune at home, and ECU & TCU tune that we’re designed to work together.

Well thanks for explaining that, makes more sense overall on why you made the switch. I do agree with multiple things you stated like having to drive to get flashed everytime, though for me it's been upgrading vs problems. I do wish apr had the dongle like uni has, makes life easier. The main reason I went apr is because uni still doesn't have any tunes ecu/tcu available for my box code on my 2020my. Apr does, and it's been fantastic what I've been able to do to it power wise. APR'S customer service has been good to me and that's unfortunate you've had bad experiences with them. Glad your enjoying your car though with your current set up. That's all that matters honestly.

[context.eax]

Here are some of my runs from full stock to inlet upgrade and finally uni stage 1+.
Every run is on 98 Ron full weight but with some low DA.

First is fully stock:


Here is with the APR inlet + elbow and K&N filter is stock air box:



And here is with Wagner EVO1 IC and Unitronic 1+ ECU and UNI TCU stage 2:


So from a magazine perspective with 1 foot rollout I do 0-60 is 2.9 sec :)


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