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    Adjusting clutch pedal throw

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    I think maybe this is NOT the usual clutch pedal adjustment question.

    So I am struggling to find a comfortable seating position on my '09 S5. I feel that if I have the seat far enough back to make the brake and gas comfortable, I am really reaching to bury the clutch pedal to the floor. If I move the seat forward enough to bury the clutch (even extending my toe out) the brake and gas are uncomfortably close.

    If I don't concern myself with putting the clutch all the way on the floor I still have plenty of disengagement, so if I can just adjust where the actual pedal stops in its' travel I'd be good. Is there a stop for the pedal or does it just stop when it bottoms out the master cylinder? It wouldn't take a lot of adjustment here. Even sticking a rubber stopper somewhere might do it.

    I understand this may also necessitate adjusting the starter / cruise switch.

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    I was about to post the same basic request. I'm also interested in making this adjustment, if possible.

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    Really kinda thinking about gluing a 1/2" rubber bumper to the backside of the clutch pedal. I played around a little bit and I have at least 1/2" or possibly a full inch off the floor before the start switch isn't made yet.
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    Have you bled the system to see if it improves? If it doesn’t then you’re probably looking at a new master cylinder.


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    I think you missed the whole point of the topic. There's no mechanical issues. Trying to create a more comfortable pedal position.
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    I think if you were to put the half inch piece it might prevent full clutch engagement.

    At first I found it a little odd, especially being on the shorter side (5'6.5"/5'7" ish), I've found that my most comfortable position is as follows.

    Seat as low as possible in the rear, with the front slightly upward. Steering wheel fully forward and tilted down. Gives you a nice sporty seating placement. If my right foot is on the accelerator, my right knee is practically perfectly even with my left knee while it's resting on the dead pedal/foot rest. Brake and gas aren't too close to be uncomfortable, and this let's me fully press in the clutch without having to resort to using my toe or push my ankle too far also. I sustained an ankle injury a few years ago and it sometimes gets sore over the course of a work day but I find this comfortable where it doesn't bother me when driving.

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    That sounds like about where I settled in. Back of cushion is close to the floor, maybe just a notch above the bottoming-out point. Front of cushion all the way up. I have the front seat extension about halfway out. I love the cushion extension but having it all the way out really prevented me from extending my left leg because it held my thigh up too high. Now I'm getting greedy but a split lower cushion extension would be perfect. Steering wheel is almost all the way out (extended, towards the driver). Steering wheel height has to be where it doesn't block either the bottom or the top of the gauge cluster so that is where it is. Not much room for up/down adjustment before you're either blocking the bottom of the gauges or the upper portion of the idiot lights.

    I spent about 7 hours in the car yesterday and it was pretty comfortable. I could live with it where it is. But I'm definitely stretching out that toe to get the clutch to the floor. I would actually be willing to change the pivot point on the master cylinder actuator rod if it was adjustable (which admittedly I've never looked to see if it is, but I'm assuming Zee Germans leave NOTHING adjustable as that would imply imperfection! Nein! I could live with a heavier clutch if it meant more throw and bottoming out the clutch master sooner. It really would be just fine if I didn't have to push the pedal quite so far.
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    Adjusting clutch pedal throw

    Its not so much the gas & brake for me. When at a comfortable distance to work the clutch im too close to the steering wheeL. I have to to ghetto lean my seat back to be at the proper distance.

    Edit: wait does this thing telescope (15 S5)
    Thought it only tilted ? Hmm.
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    You can spend $3300 and get JHM 1R clutch kit installed like i just did.. It gets rid of the self adjusting pressure plate.

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    Ummmm....no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darel View Post
    I think maybe this is NOT the usual clutch pedal adjustment question.

    So I am struggling to find a comfortable seating position on my '09 S5. I feel that if I have the seat far enough back to make the brake and gas comfortable, I am really reaching to bury the clutch pedal to the floor. If I move the seat forward enough to bury the clutch (even extending my toe out) the brake and gas are uncomfortably close.

    If I don't concern myself with putting the clutch all the way on the floor I still have plenty of disengagement, so if I can just adjust where the actual pedal stops in its' travel I'd be good. Is there a stop for the pedal or does it just stop when it bottoms out the master cylinder? It wouldn't take a lot of adjustment here. Even sticking a rubber stopper somewhere might do it.

    I understand this may also necessitate adjusting the starter / cruise switch.

    Thanks,
    Darel
    I had the same problem when I first picked up my 2012 S5. But I soon realized there is no need to put the clutch pedal all the way to the floor. It properly engages/disengages with only partial placement toward the floor. I think this is intentional as I've seen "racing" videos and the clutch movement is clearly much less and not to the floor (less clutch travel is a faster shift?). So I adjusted the seat to be comfortable for the gas and brake, and the clutch travel distance was nearly perfect for shifting. Then made minor adjustments with the tilt of the seat pan and the extension. Just be careful how far you tilt the seat pan back and how far you use the extension as the bottom bolster will hit your left leg and prevent full extension of your foot. I figured this out pretty quickly, but it took me a while to get the lumber comfortable. After that, I can take the car for very long drives and still feel comfortable.
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    Omg .. i had no idea the wheel telescoped. Thanks to this thread and another i made this discovery.
    The PO had the steering wheel all the way out. I found myself moving the seat back just to get out and back to comfortably drive. Unbelievable lol
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    I set up #1 as my driving position and #2 all the way back, not because I have problems getting in and out but because I don't want to wear out the side bolster on the seat anymore. Maybe next year I'll get it redone but in the meantime I don't feel like having it wear through entirely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darel View Post
    I set up #1 as my driving position and #2 all the way back, not because I have problems getting in and out but because I don't want to wear out the side bolster on the seat anymore. Maybe next year I'll get it redone but in the meantime I don't feel like having it wear through entirely.
    Yep was doing the same. My fob is programmed to return to #1 when i get in.
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    How did you specify the fob to do that? I actually started a whole other thread about it but got no responses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darel View Post
    How did you specify the fob to do that? I actually started a whole other thread about it but got no responses.
    I think you have to enable it in MMI. Then it remembers the position currently in when you first lock the doors. Dont move the seat back, turn off the ignition, get out and lock doors. Should be good next time you open the door.

    Thats what the buttons are for, not to manually move the seat rather remember seating positions for the two fobs.
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    Whatever you do, don't enable Easy Access in the MMI. This is Easy Access for the rear seats, rather than the roll back on switching of the ignition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gjd000 View Post
    Whatever you do, don't enable Easy Access in the MMI. This is Easy Access for the rear seats, rather than the roll back on switching of the ignition.

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    Never heard of this ?
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    Coupe only....

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    Quote Originally Posted by gjd000 View Post
    Coupe only....

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    Understand that. But ive dont recall seeing anything about easy access in MMI. Google search brings up nothing either. Is that maybe a UK option ?

    I know my seats automatically move forward when accessing the rear.
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    Maybe.....with mine I have a menu option for Easy Access which allows me to enable/disable the seats moving forward when accessing the rear.

    It seems to conflict with the feature where the driver's seat moves backwards from the steering wheel to allow you to enter and exit the vehicle more easily.



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    Quote Originally Posted by gjd000 View Post
    Maybe.....with mine I have a menu option for Easy Access which allows me to enable/disable the seats moving forward when accessing the rear.

    It seems to conflict with the feature where the driver's seat moves backwards from the steering wheel to allow you to enter and exit the vehicle more easily.



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    Ahh ok
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    OK, so I looked up the exploded diagram for the pedal / MC assembly on Mitchell. There is a physical rubber bumper stopper on the pedal, it doesn't look easy to modify but I have one idea. As far as adjusting the throw, that's not happening. The way the MC mounts is in no way able to be modified, and the rod is not threaded anywhere, including on the rod end. The pedal cannot be redrilled due to the way it's cast. I did throw an ad up on the classifieds looking for anyone who might have an old junk clutch MC I can dissect, as I do have an idea or two that might allow me to move the pedal stop out but still get the correct throw out of the master cylinder / starter switch.

    I didn't get any time to actually go out and putz around with the car, as it rained all weekend and I had some real work to do.

    I'll update if I get to do that.
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