conti extreme contact dws 06 failing to reach 16k miles, second set

[dab]

So for the second time my dws failed to get a fraction of the 50k warranty as it was under 16k miles. Other issues including very floaty when I first put them on the car, on the interstate I had to take the car into dynamic because it felt like the sidewalls were very soft. In heavy rain or snow the tire would pull you into the puddle or slush which is not fun. The only good thing is discount tire took care of me charging me 219 total for a set of 4 Yokohama adv sport a/s and the last set they sold me were heavily discounted as well. I do drive the car hard, but never tracked this set. Hard means every roundabout blasting out of it. Interested in seeing what another tire will do. Did anybody else have any of these issues? I would not recommend the dws.

[Audibot]

I swore off DWSs ever since I had a set where the sidewalls went. 3 of the 4 were from the same batch, and each had sidewall issue (one blew out on the road; the others were developing cracking). Continental basically told me to go screw myself, and since there, I will never put one on the car.

And, like you, I wasn't close to 50k miles. I think I was somewhere between 25-30.

[doughboy17]

The Contis do have soft sidewalls, are pretty good in rain and snow but are less dry performance based than the Michelin or BFG all seasons. From your signature, your set up and expectations probably match you better to the Michelins or BFGs. The more tires I experience, the more I believe "you get what you pay for."

[goliath1]

Odd..they get rave reviews from many. I guess personal preference is key. I just put 4 tires on my son’s maxima and he loves them. To each his own. 😀

[all_kobiwon]

I've had mine on for 2.5 years now. They have been great, especially in the snow in Denver. Of course I drive like the old man that I am.

[RedheadNV]

I’ve had mine mounted since Labor Day and probably 11k miles. I’m just above 9/32” left. I’ve had them on several cars, they do great with the weather we have here in Reno. I had them go for 72k miles on a Civic, 215/40/18. All just depends on many factors.


2013 S6 Quartz gray metallic

[Faceman76]

With about 25k on them, I have around 6/32" left. I wonder if this is a size related issue, as my experience with them in 225/50/17, and I haven't had an issue.

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[ESSMAN]

Never had good luck with them myself

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[JASCOTT9]

I've had mines 275/35/20 on Advanti 20x10 et 25 wheels for two years and 31,000 miles on my 2014 RS 7 with no complaints or issues and they gone 11.32 at 124 at Capital Raceway

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[mojuice87]

As a Tire dealer I get to try almost every tire available once a year. Continental is by far my favorite tire. Also I have 2 sets for my Audi s7. One set for the winter rim package and the other for spring and summer.

What kind of car? Id assume you’re having other issues.


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[vierno12]

lmaooo do not remind me of these tires.

I spent 850$ on those tires through tire rack.
From all the reviews i thought it was a no brainer 🤦*♂️.

I had 225/35/19 dunlop summers - no issue

Then 235/35/19 Conti - Loss pressure when ever it got cold and they couldn’t absorb the NYC potholes (let to 3 bend wheels).

Now 245/45/19 Autogrip (i know 🤣)
No issues what so ever, they take bumps like a champion. in the last 3 winters did not need to add air. They survived many cruises with the squad.

Thats when i realized a brand name is just a “name”. Doesn’t necessarily mean quality.



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[dab]

Odd..they get rave reviews from many. I guess personal preference is key. I just put 4 tires on my son’s maxima and he loves them. To each his own. 😀

4 tires are good since that is what most cars require.

[dab]

As a Tire dealer I get to try almost every tire available once a year. Continental is by far my favorite tire. Also I have 2 sets for my Audi s7. One set for the winter rim package and the other for spring and summer.

What kind of car? Id assume you’re having other issues.


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Ummm my signature tells you what kind of car I have and no other issues.

[mojuice87]

Ummm my signature tells you what kind of car I have and no other issues.

Yea I forgot to check that. Lol


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[mojuice87]

lmaooo do not remind me of these tires.

I spent 850$ on those tires through tire rack.
From all the reviews i thought it was a no brainer 🤦*♂️.

I had 225/35/19 dunlop summers - no issue

Then 235/35/19 Conti - Loss pressure when ever it got cold and they couldn’t absorb the NYC potholes (let to 3 bend wheels).

Now 245/45/19 Autogrip (i know 🤣)
No issues what so ever, they take bumps like a champion. in the last 3 winters did not need to add air. They survived many cruises with the squad.

Thats when i realized a brand name is just a “name”. Doesn’t necessarily mean quality.



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Loss of air pressure when the weather changes is common. Doesn’t matter the Tire lol. Even as you drive and the tires get hot the air pressure changes. Sometimes you can lose air pressure faster if the installer doesn’t use bead sealer or clean the beads. But definitely not a Tire issue.

Also, in my experience Audi wheels just seem to bend easily. Again nothing to do with the Tire. I get many Audi’s thought the year have the same isssue with bent wheels. Doesn’t matter the tire. That’s why i put aftermarket wheels on my Audi. First day I took my s7 home I bent 2 wheels. That’s never happened on any car I’ve own. And I get a new car every year.


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[dab]

Even though this is off thread I will respond, it's the opposite in terms of rims in my experience.
My rs6 had Hartman pos, they bent going across a railroad track. The current s7 stock love in a 20 inch and they are heavy and have taken some abuse with potholes and still fine.

[mojuice87]

Even though this is off thread I will respond, it's the opposite in terms of rims in my experience.
My rs6 had Hartman pos, they bent going across a railroad track. The current s7 stock love in a 20 inch and they are heavy and have taken some abuse with potholes and still fine.

Just speaking from experience. As a matter fact all my stock Audi wheels bent. Lol


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[WhiteDiamond]

My DWS have been great through the Colorado winter, albeit a light winter. I drive in the worst of it, though, and they did not let me down. I have max performance summer tires on my true sports car and there is really no comparison. I cannot sacrifice the ability of the DWS, however, as the max summer can't even take near freezing temps without getting completely loose. I would try another tire on my S6, but I have already had a terrible experience with the Michelin A/S 3+'s, so I cannot go that route again.

Not liking the comments on stock Audi wheels bending easily........Yikes. Guess I better watch them carefully.

[MP4.2+6.0]

FWIW, having been on stock Audi wheels forever--back to steel days, and then alloys from 85 on, I have only had one bent one, where a brother in law dropped it directly into a snow covered huge pothole and took out rear right. A 96 A6Q on 15's with 195/55's or so back at the 168HP 12V V6 2.8 quattro. After that when I got to 40's on the C5 A6 4.2, I came to understand how critical tire pressure was. By 30 psi, expect bubbled sidewalls. By 38 or 40 all good. Next ran 9 years and 100K on D3 A8 W12 with 4600 pounds of heft on 275/35's. No drama, no lost tires or sidewalls. Various Dunlops and one set of Michelins over the years. Also when I came to learn there are the quality forged 20 factories, and then the dime a dozen cast stuff. Both are sturdily built--cast 20s' are in low 30's and 21's now push 35+ in a 9" width. The forged in 20x9's are as light as about 27 pounds, including my W12 set and my current D4 S8 wheels of choice. For either C7 or D4 bodies, those forged ones are most commonly the twin 10 spoke ones, often polished unless the newer darker finishes, or the yet lighter twin 7 two tone ones. A few others are out there too--made quietly by Fuchs, the old Porsche 911 classic five spoke guys.

On the Conti, also run those on my S8 on winter side for milder CA (including Sierra winter trips), and then Conti DW's for summer. A question I often have in these kinds of posts is whether if some who respond actually realize the DWS06 tire is not the same as the DWS; both were sold side by side in recent years. Yet, I think sometimes some may just blur the two. The 06 is tweaked to a bit better dry performance and less sloppy feel perhaps, while the "straight" DWS has incrementally more winter oomph. Having used the DWS06 by winter and earlier the Dunlop winter M2's, M3's and D3's, it is up to it by and large, and light years ahead of the old Michelin A/S+'s I found pretty downright dangerous by winter on ice--as many did. Since superseded by a better design, though I see once recent post saying not so good either. Having spun the W12 in Aspen with like no control after a light overnight snow with the AS +'s, never again for something like that. And from having been on the DWS06's with yet more HP and same 275 widths and about same weight and in tougher winter weather conditions, way closer to my always comfortable dedicated Dunlop winters. Yet, closer to my DWs for everyday suburban and highway driving. Meaningfully quieter than the already highway tuned Dunlop performance winters--which themselves are light years quieter than something like a classic Blizzak. Like all A/S's, a compromise in some ways, but on balance and two seasons/years now in, I'm quite satisfied.

[mojuice87]

FWIW, having been on stock Audi wheels forever--back to steel days, and then alloys from 85 on, I have only had one bent one, where a brother in law dropped it directly into a snow covered huge pothole and took out rear right. A 96 A6Q on 15's with 195/55's or so back at the 168HP 12V V6 2.8 quattro. After that when I got to 40's on the C5 A6 4.2, I came to understand how critical tire pressure was. By 30 psi, expect bubbled sidewalls. By 38 or 40 all good. Next ran 9 years and 100K on D3 A8 W12 with 4600 pounds of heft on 275/35's. No drama, no lost tires or sidewalls. Various Dunlops and one set of Michelins over the years. Also when I came to learn there are the quality forged 20 factories, and then the dime a dozen cast stuff. Both are sturdily built--cast 20s' are in low 30's and 21's now push 35+ in a 9" width. The forged in 20x9's are as light as about 27 pounds, including my W12 set and my current D4 S8 wheels of choice. For either C7 or D4 bodies, those forged ones are most commonly the twin 10 spoke ones, often polished unless the newer darker finishes, or the yet lighter twin 7 two tone ones. A few others are out there too--made quietly by Fuchs, the old Porsche 911 classic five spoke guys.

On the Conti, also run those on my S8 on winter side for milder CA (including Sierra winter trips), and then Conti DW's for summer. A question I often have in these kinds of posts is whether if some who respond actually realize the DWS06 tire is not the same as the DWS; both were sold side by side in recent years. Yet, I think sometimes some may just blur the two. The 06 is tweaked to a bit better dry performance and less sloppy feel perhaps, while the "straight" DWS has incrementally more winter oomph. Having used the DWS06 by winter and earlier the Dunlop winter M2's, M3's and D3's, it is up to it by and large, and light years ahead of the old Michelin A/S+'s I found pretty downright dangerous by winter on ice--as many did. Since superseded by a better design, though I see once recent post saying not so good either. Having spun the W12 in Aspen with like no control after a light overnight snow with the AS +'s, never again for something like that. And from having been on the DWS06's with yet more HP and same 275 widths and about same weight and in tougher winter weather conditions, way closer to my always comfortable dedicated Dunlop winters. Yet, closer to my DWs for everyday suburban and highway driving. Meaningfully quieter than the already highway tuned Dunlop performance winters--which themselves are light years quieter than something like a classic Blizzak. Like all A/S's, a compromise in some ways, but on balance and two seasons/years now in, I'm quite satisfied.

DWS06 replaces the DWS.


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[Laserrs]

Using the newer Michelin A/S4+ and had no issues over winter. I have found that all tires, Conti and even these Michelins, seem to wear faster on my Audi. AWD related?

[Bdubs]

Was running the DWS06 on my 2013 X5M and with all that weight and power, never had an issue with them. They were wearing normally, weren't giving any signs of premature degradation and allowed me to run one tire all year vs. the dedicated summers/snows I started with...

And I've run the older DWS on several prior cars...I can't comment on whether they reach their full life mileage mark as I never keep cars that long, lol...

[dab]

looking forward to getting the Yokohamas and seeing what they are about. For $50 a tire can't beat it.

[MP4.2+6.0]

DWS06 replaces the DWS.

I think you may be missing the point. In the timeframe in which I bought mine--two year ago--this was not true. The DWS-06's are on my car, and probably will be another year or so before worn out. But when I bought them they could just as easily be the non-06 DWS's. The two were sold side by side by TireRack and presumably elsewhere as of at least 2016. And thus, the question should be asked from anyone reporting in running or buying these in that kind of window--which version did/do they really have? Much of the input in this thread is logically likely from owners who could have bought either one. The original one had somewhat greater winter attributes but was viewed as somewhat sloppy handling wise; the newer one dialed it some the other way. Not sure on the wear comparo at the margin.

Same for the Michelin A/S products BTW, and I was careful in my reply to distinguish. Michelin actually did the opposite, trying to get a bit more oomph into their originally lame snow/ice performance, as I personally experienced. Thus one can't just say the Michelin A/S's generically, nor even Pilot Sport A/S. The first ones are pretty long gone, but input from the past several years can be from any of the A/S +, the A/S 3+, or even the A/S 3 N-Spec or now 4+. The Dunlop naming change was arguably more subtle--only adding the 06 at the end.

[MP4.2+6.0]

Using the newer Michelin A/S4+ and had no issues over winter. I have found that all tires, Conti and even these Michelins, seem to wear faster on my Audi. AWD related?

I think AWD, but especially power and pork. Audi's have put on a lot of pork in the last 15 years. My old A6 4.2 was no lightweight at 4,000 pounds; actually weighed what my 1996 2.8Q did but the shift to aluminum block and various body pieces helped offset. Since then though the pork is generally upward. Probably better part of 500 pounds. Yet, it is masked by the increased motor HP and especially torque AND by the 8 speeds instead of earlier 6's and then 5's. With the 8 speeds comes a lower first gear overall too. More power, more weight, lower low gearing, and the tire is literally where the proverbial rubber meets the road. The one shift I have noticed over the now 4 increasingly high powered AWD's is that the rears are now wearing about the same as the fronts. Audi's used to eat fronts decidedly faster than rears. Obviously for the old FWD's, but also for the earlier sub 200HP Q's I started with. I rotate them seasonally as I swap out tires anyway, so they stay pretty even.

[RSLRS71]

sorry, but these tires are trash...would never buy em.

[mojuice87]

I think you may be missing the point. In the timeframe in which I bought mine--two year ago--this was not true. The DWS-06's are on my car, and probably will be another year or so before worn out. But when I bought them they could just as easily be the non-06 DWS's. The two were sold side by side by TireRack and presumably elsewhere as of at least 2016. And thus, the question should be asked from anyone reporting in running or buying these in that kind of window--which version did/do they really have? Much of the input in this thread is logically likely from owners who could have bought either one. The original one had somewhat greater winter attributes but was viewed as somewhat sloppy handling wise; the newer one dialed it some the other way. Not sure on the wear comparo at the margin.

Same for the Michelin A/S products BTW, and I was careful in my reply to distinguish. Michelin actually did the opposite, trying to get a bit more oomph into their originally lame snow/ice performance, as I personally experienced. Thus one can't just say the Michelin A/S's generically, nor even Pilot Sport A/S. The first ones are pretty long gone, but input from the past several years can be from any of the A/S +, the A/S 3+, or even the A/S 3 N-Spec or now 4+. The Dunlop naming change was arguably more subtle--only adding the 06 at the end.

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[vierno12]

Loss of air pressure when the weather changes is common. Doesn’t matter the Tire lol. Even as you drive and the tires get hot the air pressure changes. Sometimes you can lose air pressure faster if the installer doesn’t use bead sealer or clean the beads. But definitely not a Tire issue.

Also, in my experience Audi wheels just seem to bend easily. Again nothing to do with the Tire. I get many Audi’s thought the year have the same isssue with bent wheels. Doesn’t matter the tire. That’s why i put aftermarket wheels on my Audi. First day I took my s7 home I bent 2 wheels. That’s never happened on any car I’ve own. And I get a new car every year.


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You just completely disregard what i said about my other set of tires never deflating. And i been running different wheels not just oem


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[Audibot]

Also, in my experience Audi wheels just seem to bend easily.

So far I am pleasantly finding the opposite--my A6's 20" wheels have continued to hold up more than I imagined on Maryland's terrible roads. I had previously bent 3 different aftermarket sets on my A4.

[wangshuo1989]

So far I am pleasantly finding the opposite--my A6's 20" wheels have continued to hold up more than I imagined on Maryland's terrible roads. I had previously bent 3 different aftermarket sets on my A4.

Have you checked them with an wheel/alignment shop? I didn't know my wheels were slightly bent until I visited a shop to do alignment.

[dbd723]

Put Michelin PSS or the new 4S tires that replaced the PSS on for summer (30k treadlife guarantee) and Pilot Alpin PA4 (same treadlife) for winter if you are in colder or snowy climate (I have been in Northern Indiana by the lake, Milwaukee, and Minneapolis). Repeat the process in a few years when those wear out. Make sure tire pressures are reasonable and not too high for good ride. Grippier, smoother, quieter, longer lasting than any other performance tire, better than most all seasons for ride noise and quality. I have had this setup on 2008 z06 (hooked great), stage 1 2011 s5 cab, 2016 corvette z06, 2013 CTSV (yes, both were driven through snowy winters with no issues on PA4s), and about to swap out the pzeros on my stage 2 S6 for some 4S (and then Pa4 this winter, and cannot wait. Do this and never think about tires again.

[elptxjc]

Have the DWS06s, and very happy with them... but I understand their limitations. With a 4,400-lb car, with a heavy front weight bias, AND relatively skinny tires for its power and size, I don't expect them to last anywhere close to 50K miles. I also like to take curves aggressively in the canyons, which will surely shorten their life as well, but I'm sure they'll last at least double what a summer tire would. And I can drive the car wherever I want. Dry performance is more than enough for this pig of a car. Finally, in my 255/35/20, didn't have any other choice of an UHPA/S tire, but would have chosen the German Contis anyway. Had Michelin A/S3s before, and wasn't impressed at all.

[Brooklyn]

So for the second time my dws failed to get a fraction of the 50k warranty as it was under 16k miles. Other issues including very floaty when I first put them on the car, on the interstate I had to take the car into dynamic because it felt like the sidewalls were very soft. In heavy rain or snow the tire would pull you into the puddle or slush which is not fun. The only good thing is discount tire took care of me charging me 219 total for a set of 4 Yokohama adv sport a/s and the last set they sold me were heavily discounted as well. I do drive the car hard, but never tracked this set. Hard means every roundabout blasting out of it. Interested in seeing what another tire will do. Did anybody else have any of these issues? I would not recommend the dws.

I'm probably not taking corners as hard as you, but I run the DW and DWS as my winter and summer tires and I am getting north of 20k per set. My tire pressure is usually set at around 45psi all around. Car is aligned at least once per year.


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[OmaHahn]

So glad to see this thread - the DWS06 are trash! I'm seeing more & more threads being posted on multiple forums for different platforms. My set didn't even make it to 12,000 miles, not kidding! I also had that floating feeling when new and felt like I was driving on asphalt covered in oil! I had them on my 2014 Ford SHO. Luckily, I got about $600+ in warranty to put towards a new set. The manager at Discount Tire said he wouldn't recommend this tire for a heavy sport sedan. He suggested going with the Continental Sport Contact (I believe is the name). So I put these on and they've been great.

[OmaHahn]

I've had mines 275/35/20 on Advanti 20x10 et 25 wheels for two years and 31,000 miles on my 2014 RS 7 with no complaints or issues and they gone 11.32 at 124 at Capital Raceway

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Looking a little low on tread though!!

[Cam.CL.S7]

i ran them on my S7 for about 3 months, i got stuck in a few inches of snow getting into my driveway once and also got stuck in the middle of the highway to the point i had to dig out my front and rear tires. i ditched them and will be getting dedicated snows and summer tires.

[JASCOTT9]

Looking a little low on tread though!!

Third summer with them


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[wwhan]

I typically get about 17k miles on High Performance all weather tires. My last set of Michelin AS3+ tires only lasted 11k miles.