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    APR Stage 3+ - First Impressions & 0-60

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    So I have had the Stage 3+ kit just about a week now, so i figured I'd put up my initial impressions. The power is awesome (obviously), the power delivery is very linear, pulls like a great train to the 7200rpm redline. The driving characteristic are different from the IS38 (obviously) because the different sized turbo. Torque comes in later, not as spikey, but great to drive everyday. I posted a video of my thoughts, along with a quick 0-60 run in the video below. Enjoy and please give me your honest feedback.

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    I don't know how many times I told you this already but I can't get enough of your cool down to earth videos. I followed you with all your videos on youtube and most of your posts. I like how your videos don't need much editing because you just want to share it like it is.

    I heard that howling, it is very typical of ball bearing bigger compressor turbos. I think that driving in sport mode is a great aid for spool up. Thanks for sharing brother!

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    any quirks that needed to get worked out or was it basically plug and play?

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    Awesome! What exhaust are you running?

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    Quote Originally Posted by S3DUDE View Post
    I don't know how many times I told you this already but I can't get enough of your cool down to earth videos. I followed you with all your videos on youtube and most of your posts. I like how your videos don't need much editing because you just want to share it like it is.

    I heard that howling, it is very typical of ball bearing bigger compressor turbos. I think that driving in sport mode is a great aid for spool up. Thanks for sharing brother!
    ** Lets us know what it does at the drag strip so that we can analyze your previous stage 2 plus with the stage 3 plus.
    Thanks man, I appreciate the kind words. I try to be straight forward with how I feel, and down to earth. Just cause I drive an Audi doesn't mean I have to be a douche. lol. I am planning on going to the strip Sunday, if weather permits. Northern NY is pretty shifty with weather.
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    Quote Originally Posted by P2WRTMR View Post
    Awesome! What exhaust are you running?
    Stock portion beyond the APR mid pipe for now. I'm trying to hold off for the APR exhaust to complete the system. Went to a cars and coffee event locally, and everyone really likes the tone of the exhaust as is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by will13k7 View Post
    any quirks that needed to get worked out or was it basically plug and play?
    Yes, its basically plug and play, minus the small modification to install the port injection system. Quirks Performance wise is a no as of now....... but we had an issue with wiring for the fueling. Everything works, but my gas gauge reads empty, waiting on a resolution from APR tech support. As of now, just an annoyance filling up often to make sure I don't go empty.
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    Off topic, but what do you think of the apr springs? You are the only one I know of that has them. Ride quality in particular. Can you post some pictures of your car with the springs. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montoya fan View Post
    Off topic, but what do you think of the apr springs? You are the only one I know of that has them. Ride quality in particular. Can you post some pictures of your car with the springs. Thanks
    Yeah I'll post a pic when I get home today, or you can check out my IG page @slowhite__s3 which has plenty of pictures of my car. The car rides very close to the stock ride quality. It's just about an inch lower so it's not too harsh or obnoxious getting into certain driveways. I'm very pleased with my choice to get these springs, and the price is very competitive as well.
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    Edited: no more problem, OP took care of the issue
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    Quote Originally Posted by saxon View Post
    SCAMMER SCAMMER SCAMMER SCAMMER SCAMMER SCAMMER SCAMMER SCAMMER SCAMMER SCAMMER SCAMMER

    sold my friend the down pipe but did not include the catted section or any of the reducers to hook up to the factory exhaust

    states that it was only the downpipe, however APR does not sell just the upper part or just the lower part. the downpipe is everything and not just the part that is hooked to the exhaust housing.

    this is all he received



    https://www.goapr.com/products/apr_e..._mqb_awd.html#
    That is essentially the downpipe...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nano909 View Post
    That is essentially the downpipe...........
    It's half the downpipe, without the cat. Which the cat is almost 450 from apr... so no it's not the apr downpipe like they sell it

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    Quote Originally Posted by saxon View Post
    It's half the downpipe, without the cat. Which the cat is almost 450 from apr... so no it's not the apr downpipe like they sell it
    I agree.

    I bought the is38 from him. Excited to see what shows up. Don't worry he assured me he's an "honest military man". Maybe a mistake when packing it up. Any word from him.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Quantim0 View Post
    I agree.

    I bought the is38 from him. Excited to see what shows up. Don't worry he assured me he's an "honest military man". Maybe a mistake when packing it up. Any word from him.


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    Pretty sure he is working with my friend to fix it. Once resolved I will delete/update my posts
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    He seems like a good guy. I’m sure it’ll get resolved.


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    I think that he probably forgot to put the cat section in the box, I wouldn't worry too much. At the same time I think it would be nice if you remove the SCAMMER wording from the post, just my .2c.
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    Did you have any internal work done? I see on APR's website they recommend a built motor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saxon View Post
    It's half the downpipe, without the cat. Which the cat is almost 450 from apr... so no it's not the apr downpipe like they sell it
    A cat is not considered a downpipe. It's a cat. The downpipe is the part after the cat. If he said it's the downpipe, then he gave you the correct part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saxon View Post
    Pretty sure he is working with my friend to fix it. Once resolved I will delete/update my posts
    You should have gave this guy a chance instead of running his name through the trash.

    Hey....don't you have have to buy some rims or sell some rims.....or ...


    .lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by jiannu View Post
    You should have gave this guy a chance instead of running his name through the trash.

    Hey....don't you have have to buy some rims or sell some rims.....or ...


    .lol
    It's still not resolved, once it is I'll gladly edit my posts

    Go and buy the apr downpipe, I assure you it includes the cat and everything to hook it up to the stock exhaust
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    Quote Originally Posted by saxon View Post
    It's still not resolved, once it is I'll gladly edit my posts

    Go and buy the apr downpipe, I assure you it includes the cat and everything to hook it up to the stock exhaust
    Sorry but I don't buy anything APR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nano909 View Post
    A cat is not considered a downpipe. It's a cat. The downpipe is the part after the cat. If he said it's the downpipe, then he gave you the correct part.
    Actually no he didnt, if you can read my post you'll r it alize its i.possible to use the part he sent without the other parts of the downpipe, which include the catted section and adapters to the stock exhaust
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    Quote Originally Posted by saxon View Post
    Actually no he didnt, if you can read my post you'll r it alize its i.possible to use the part he sent without the other parts of the downpipe, which include the catted section and adapters to the stock exhaust
    A downpipe is a downpipe. A cat is a cat. If the post said "I'm selling a cat and downpipe" then you can complain. If the post said "I'm selling a downpipe" then he sent the right part. Not hard to comprehend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nano909 View Post
    A downpipe is a downpipe. A cat is a cat. If the post said "I'm selling a cat and downpipe" then you can complain. If the post said "I'm selling a downpipe" then he sent the right part. Not hard to comprehend.
    It's an apr downpipe, when bought through apr it comes with a cat, you make no fucking sense so just quit it
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    Quote Originally Posted by saxon View Post
    It's an apr downpipe, when bought through apr it comes with a cat, you make no fucking sense so just quit it
    I'm starting to think you're a few eggs shy of a salad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nano909 View Post
    I'm starting to think you're a few eggs shy of a salad.
    I dont like eggs in my salad so that makes sense ;)

    Call up apr and buy a dow pipe, I assure you that you'll get a cat and everything to attach it to a car, certainly not half a part (the rest costs $450) and he sold the downpipe for $600

    Damn man, I guess common sense isnt common anymore
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    Quote Originally Posted by saxon View Post
    I dont like eggs in my salad so that makes sense ;)

    Call up apr and buy a dow pipe, I assure you that you'll get a cat and everything to attach it to a car, certainly not half a part (the rest costs $450) and he sold the downpipe for $600

    Damn man, I guess common sense isnt common anymore
    APR downpipe WITH CAT
    https://www.moddedeuros.com/products...SABEgIQGfD_BwE

    I guess you don't have any common sense. The parts aren't connected in one piece. If it was then I would understand why you're so anal. But they're not connected, they're TWO SEPARATE parts and it says so in the title. Otherwise it would say "APR downpipe", but it says "APR downpipe with cat".

    I saw the post, it said "APR AWD downpipe"
    He didn't say there was going to be parts included. Your friend got the part he paid for, which is the downpipe.

    Next time maybe contact the seller and see what's included before making yourself look stupid like you just did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nano909 View Post
    APR downpipe WITH CAT
    https://www.moddedeuros.com/products...SABEgIQGfD_BwE

    I guess you don't have any common sense. The parts aren't connected in one piece. If it was then I would understand why you're so anal. But they're not connected, they're TWO SEPARATE parts and it says so I'm the title. Otherwise it would say "APR downpipe", but it says "APR downpipe with cat".

    I saw the post, it said "APR AWD downpipe"
    He didn't say there was going to be parts included. Your friend got the part he paid for, which is the downpipe.

    Next time maybe contact the seller and see what's included before making yourself look stupid like you just did.
    Show me where you can buy the downpipe by itself... show me one place that it's for sale, just because its separated doesnt mean it's a different part

    Damn man you need to think before you type

    Apr does not sell a non catted downpipe

    Would be like me posting a set of wheels for sale and sending you 3. Then justifying it because I didnt clarify 4 wheels in a post

    Again, you cannot buy just the part he sold, he was mistaken and kept his midpipe to be used on his stage 3 kit. Its $475 for the part he kept from the downpipe and you expect someone who paid $600 to be happy? Do you like fucking people over?
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    Quote Originally Posted by saxon View Post
    Show me where you can buy the downpipe by itself... show me one place that it's for sale, just because its separated doesnt mean it's a different part

    Damn man you need to think before you type

    Apr does not sell a non catted downpipe

    Would be like me posting a set of wheels for sale and sending you 3. Then justifying it because I didnt clarify 4 wheels in a post

    Again, you cannot buy just the part he sold, he was mistaken and kept his midpipe to be used on his stage 3 kit. Its $475 for the part he kept from the downpipe and you expect someone who paid $600 to be happy? Do you like fucking people over?
    So why does APR write "APR downpipe with cat" and not just "APR downpipe" if it's allone part like you said?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nano909 View Post
    So why does APR write "APR downpipe with cat" and not just "APR downpipe" if it's allone part like you said?
    because its a catted downpipe where some companies sell downpipes without cats....
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    Quote Originally Posted by saxon View Post
    because its a catted downpipe where some companies sell downpipes without cats....
    Except it's not a one piece part, meaning it's two different parts. So it's not a catted downpipe, it's a downpipe and a cat. Not being able to buy them separate is irrelevant since they're both solo parts.

    You're letting your anger for your friend cloud the logic placed here. He said he's selling a downpipe, he sold the downpipe.
    He never said anything other than the downpipe is included.
    Your friend (and ANY buyer) should inform themselves and ask the seller questions as to what's included in the sale.

    He sold the downpipe part of the APR downpipe with cat. I see no wrong here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nano909 View Post
    Except it's not a one piece part, meaning it's two different parts. So it's not a catted downpipe, it's a downpipe and a cat. Not being able to buy them separate is irrelevant since they're both solo parts.

    You're letting your anger for your friend cloud the logic placed here. He said he's selling a downpipe, he sold the downpipe.
    He never said anything other than the downpipe is included.
    Your friend (and ANY buyer) should inform themselves and ask the seller questions as to what's included in the sale.

    He sold the downpipe part of the APR downpipe with cat. I see no wrong here.
    your dumb, im done

    its all one part, just because its seperated to make the installation easier doesnt mean its seperate parts

    wow man, you make my head hurt with your nonsense
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    Quote Originally Posted by saxon View Post
    your dumb, im done

    its all one part, just because its seperated to make the installation easier doesnt mean its seperate parts

    wow man, you make my head hurt with your nonsense
    Tell your friend to enjoy his rightfully sold downpipe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nano909 View Post
    Tell your friend to enjoy his rightfully sold downpipe.

    i have an awe exhaust for sale, ill ship you the mufflers only and we can call that a legit sale right... i mean it is a part of the exhaust and i didnt clarify that its not the actual whole exhaust that awe sold me
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    Quote Originally Posted by saxon View Post
    i have an awe exhaust for sale, ill ship you the mufflers only and we can call that a legit sale right... i mean it is a part of the exhaust and i didnt clarify that its not the actual whole exhaust that awe sold me
    No, because I'd ask you what's included. And if the entire exhaust isn't included, I wouldn't buy it. That's how you buy things.

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    This is thread hijacking taken to another level. Jeez.
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