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    Established Member Two Rings Leeroy's Avatar
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    Living with 20's on your B8/B8.5?

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    I purchased a new set of 20x10 wheels and running them with 255/30 tires, my duties changed for work and I'll be driving more distance than before I'm kind of second guessing my purchase but I figured I'll ask some of you that are running similar setups on what your thoughts are having 20's on your B8/B8.5.

    1. what sizes (set up) are you running?

    2. Have you had any problems with bent rims & ruined tires?

    3. Hows your ride quality?

    Thanks for your help.
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    Veteran Member Four Rings tar's Avatar
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    20x9 et 35 with 245/35 tires. No issues rides fine a bit rougher than on 19s. No bends, cracks, punctures, pinches or issues with anything.

    That said I'd trade them for the same wheels in 19s hands down. Im not a fan of tiny tires or stretched tires.

    20x10 is way 2 aggressive for a daily driven s4 imo but again I hate tire stretch. Or rubbing.
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    Established Member Two Rings
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    Ride quality is fine for me but I agree with Tar. 20x10 is pretty aggressive and you'll have to run 255 or 265 tires unless you are ok with stretch. I personally don't like stretch at all. I have 20x9.5 ET 37 and was running 255 Michelin PSS. They were too stretched for my taste, only lasted about 12K miles because of bad alignment. Had some rubbing originally but it was fairly easy to cure with a fender roll in the front. Had to replace one of the 255 PSS very early on, pulling into my driveway and there was a loose broken piece of concrete left there by some contractors and it pinched the stretched sidewall against the rim and I had to replace it after about 200 miles. I love the wheel (Voresteiner VFF102) and since I hated the stretch I went to a 265 PS4S. Looks sooooooo much better and I feel way less anxiety when driving worrying about the stretched tires hitting something. Now I have a pretty bad rub in the rear, almost rubbed constantly while driving. Went to raise the car up and found the KWV3 springs had sagged so badly that I had no adjustment left. Had to replace them with Avant springs, now I can drive but still rub pretty bad in the rear on corners and bumps. Getting ready to install stiffer sways for the corners and possibly pull the fenders a tiny bit. No issues up front.

    If I had to drive long distances, I would definitely have to look into a slightly higher offset wheel and/or go back to a 19" wheel. If I were to put together an ideal spec for a long distance DD, IMO it would be......

    19x9 ET 40, 255 tire. I would range between 19x9 to 19x9.5 ET 42-37, 255, maybe 265 tire. It would also depend on the tire brand, some have a more full shoulder.

    Hope this helps, I've gone through a considerable amount of "pain" to find all of this out even after reading for hours on these forums. Hahahaha. Still fun stuff though. Expensive though too.

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    Veteran Member Three Rings ToddBrunswick's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leeroy View Post
    I purchased a new set of 20x10 wheels and running them with 255/30 tires, my duties changed for work and I'll be driving more distance than before I'm kind of second guessing my purchase but I figured I'll ask some of you that are running similar setups on what your thoughts are having 20's on your B8/B8.5.

    1. what sizes (set up) are you running?

    2. Have you had any problems with bent rims & ruined tires?

    3. Hows your ride quality?

    Thanks for your help.
    I had the following set-up:
    Wheels: TSW Bathurst 20x 9 et 35
    Tires: 245/30/20 hankook Ventura v12 evo

    It was a terrible idea for Los Angeles and I definitely wouldn't do 20s again. I bent one and chipped the top of a spoke on another. Both were from hitting potholes while going about 30 mph. I'll add some pictures later.
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    Veteran Member Three Rings ToddBrunswick's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToddBrunswick View Post
    I had the following set-up:
    Wheels: TSW Bathurst 20x 9 et 35
    Tires: 245/30/20 hankook Ventura v12 evo

    It was a terrible idea for Los Angeles and I definitely wouldn't do 20s again. I bent one and chipped the top of a spoke on another. Both were from hitting potholes while going about 30 mph. I'll add some pictures later.
    Chipped wheel



    Bent wheel
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    Veteran Member Three Rings AvusPdx's Avatar
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    I've had the same issue with the bathrust wheels end spokes would rub on the ground and fuck them up. I had 255/30/20 tires.
    Now I have 20x8.5 et33 with 245/35/20 tires and the ride is much better. A little taller but the load rating is safer than 255/30 or 245/30.
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    Veteran Member Four Rings tar's Avatar
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    I'm wondering how the 255/35 I have will ride compared to these 245/35
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    Veteran Member Three Rings rubicant5x's Avatar
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    I have 20x9 with a 265/30/20 which is the OEM 20" Audi size.



    I am in Cleveland with LOTS of potholes. I don't understand why people go with such a wide rim and narrow tire. Wider tire should save the rim quite a bit of torture.
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    Veteran Member Four Rings tar's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by rubicant5x View Post
    I have 20x9 with a 265/30/20 which is the OEM 20" Audi size.



    I am in Cleveland with LOTS of potholes. I don't understand why people go with such a wide rim and narrow tire. Wider tire should save the rim quite a bit of torture.
    I'd like to run a 265/30 but at my ride height and wheel offset I don't believe its possible to do without rubbing.
    I also agree on the wide wheel tiny tires making no sense. But a 9 isn't much wider than oem and a 255 on it wont look bad imo.
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    Senior Member Two Rings undroath73's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToddBrunswick View Post
    Chipped wheel



    Bent wheel
    Yikes, I’m about to get a set of these for my S4 and these pics scare me a bit!

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    Veteran Member Four Rings
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    wheel repair shops around here love 20 inch wheels

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    Veteran Member Three Rings ToddBrunswick's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by undroath73 View Post
    Yikes, I’m about to get a set of these for my S4 and these pics scare me a bit!
    Too bad you’re not closer, my wife would probably encourage me to give you the set taking up space in our garage for free.
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    Senior Member Two Rings undroath73's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToddBrunswick View Post
    Too bad you’re not closer, my wife would probably encourage me to give you the set taking up space in our garage for free.
    I’ll pay for shipping if you want to send them to the east coast!

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    Veteran Member Four Rings tar's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToddBrunswick View Post
    Too bad you’re not closer, my wife would probably encourage me to give you the set taking up space in our garage for free.
    Ill take them lol. I'm in riverside
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    Veteran Member Three Rings ToddBrunswick's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by tar View Post
    Ill take them lol. I'm in riverside
    I should probably try to sell them first. But if my wife forces my hand before anybody bites, you have dibs on the free offer.
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    I run AG's 20x10 ET35 with 255/30/20 Everyday as my daily and haven't much of an issue and I have hit some bumps. Do tend to chew thru tires a bit more as I am running a bit of negative camber up front (need adj control arms to fix). Otherwise love the look and the ride is a bit firm but not terrible.
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    Active Member Two Rings TROTTERS4's Avatar
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    20's will ride like shit on anything other than 265/35. And you can't run 265/35/ on a lowered S4, there's no room.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings Silver Streakin's Avatar
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    I bought my S4 with 20”x10s and immediately sold them. Too rough, poked. No thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TROTTERS4 View Post
    20's will ride like shit on anything other than 265/35. And you can't run 265/35/ on a lowered S4, there's no room.
    do you mean 265/30? i don't know anyone that has tried to run a 265/35... thats significantly bigger the suggested diameter for 20s
    i have 255/30 now and the ride honestly isn;t that bad.
    will hae 265/30 soon
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    Veteran Member Four Rings washyourrhands's Avatar
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    I run 20s on my daily and the only issues I have had so far has been from the previous owner of the wheels and the tires just not being great. I ran 20x10 255 on my RS4 for 3 years with absolutely zero problems. I don't find the ride to be horrible, but I tend to like a bit of a stiffer ride .
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    Established Member Two Rings mikemailloux's Avatar
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    I run 20 x 10 with 245/30. Definitely have terrible roads here in North east but I haven't had any issues yet. I'm also not a huge fan of tire stretch but it was a deal I couldn't pass up on the rims. Ride quality IMO isn't much different than stock

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    I run 20x10 TSW Bathurst's, same as above, on a 255/30/20 Pilot SS tire. I have no complaints or issues. I drive in Downtown Charleston, SC to get to work and the roads are less than forgiving, but as long as you pay attention and avoid MAJOR pot holes youll be fine. Ride quality is very similar to stock, unless you are on like gravel or dirt, you can feel in the steering wheel a little more. I've had the setup on springs and bags, would recommend it 100% if you like the look of the 20's more like I did. Make sure you wrap it in a good tire though, I think 1/2 of my review has to do with running Michelins, great tires.

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