Recommendations on Springs

[S23brian]

Im debating between 034 Springs/APR Springs/Emmanuel Design lowering springs on my 2015 Audi S3. Specifically because i have mag ride. I would want the drop to be the lowest and most comfortable since i have Volks coming in 19x8.5 +38. I need some recommendations! Please let me know your experiences with 034 or APR Springs. Havent found much on them for mag ride S3’s.
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[mrandrewau]

When you say you want the drop to be the lowest, do you mean the minimal amount of drop?

If so, I'm in the same boat. I want the least amount of drop, and my research led to 034 Dynamic+ springs. In all the pictures I've seen, they have the least amount of drop. Also, they have linear spring rates like OEM, and look OEM so you can take the car to the dealer without the techs noticing to void your suspension warranty.

I plan to get a set myself but been waiting for them to go on sale, since I'm in no rush (it's still snowing occasionally here outside).

[S23brian]

Ah lowest I meant to close the gap as much as possible and I know 034 and APR say 0.75 drop for mag ride but ED is only about .6. Not sure if its true. I just want to hear from some experiences between 034 or APR quality wise.

[jiannu]

Ah lowest I meant to close the gap as much as possible and I know 034 and APR say 0.75 drop for mag ride but ED is only about .6. Not sure if its true. I just want to hear from some experiences between 034 or APR quality wise.

H&R Super sport springs give you the lowest drop. I personally have Neuspeed springs and they seem fine but ED springs I hear are similar to oem ride.

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[S23brian]

Ive heard experiences where the H&R's wear out the stock shocks alot more than usual, which makes the ride super bouncy. I didnt have a good experience with h&r springs in the past on my lexus as well. Blew out too quick and was super bouncy. Im leaning more towards 034 or APR at the moment for mag ride. Give me your experiences!!

[HBird]

Been running 034 for almost a year and have no complaints whatsoever. I only drive the car with the shocks in "Dynamic" and it's been a joy. The car is firm, but it won't shake your teeth out.

[S3owner]

Been running H&R sport spring (on magride suspension) for more than a year now. They advertised it as 0.75 inch of a drop, but after settling its definitely 1" drop. No issue so far, ride quality in Dynamic is amazing but in comfort it can get a bit bouncy at times. you can see the wheel gap pictures in my IG account.

[jiannu]

Here are the Neuspeed. I had them for almost 2 years....Like OEM just the stance is lower.

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[XLR8 Craig]

Have you considered MSS Kits Springs? They are designed specifically around the OE Mag Ride technology. They also increase ride quality on a considerable scale. Cornering becomes flat, steering feel is greatly increased and predictable. Turn in is greatly enhanced and when accelerating hard and braking heavily squat and dive are eliminated. Performance increase is significant. You pay a fair margin more for these springs when comparing the other options you have on your list but they will not be out performed. I hear very good things about the 034Motorsport Dynamic+ Springs, but we haven't installed them locally yet, same goes for APR. Hearing good things about them, but they do not fall into the category if wanting to be the lowest you can get without ruining the Mag Ride Shocks.

I guess the better question is what else do you do with the car? There are a few applications that will work with the MagRide as they don't clunk or ride terrible but you're just getting a lowering spring that rides similar to stock, the stock springs have a lot of downfalls that can be corrected with the right spring.

The MSS Sport Kit with track front spring sounds right up your alley ( if you're welling to spend the money that is) Offering a 10-40mm lower than stock right height capability, these will be lower than all springs on your list. Expect full life out of your DCC Shock too.

Johns RS3 with said kit and no rubbing.

[wfujay]

Have you considered MSS Kits Springs? They are designed specifically around the OE Mag Ride technology. They also increase ride quality on a considerable scale. Cornering becomes flat, steering feel is greatly increased and predictable. Turn in is greatly enhanced and when accelerating hard and braking heavily squat and dive are eliminated. Performance increase is significant. You pay a fair margin more for these springs when comparing the other options you have on your list but they will not be out performed. I hear very good things about the 034Motorsport Dynamic+ Springs, but we haven't installed them locally yet, same goes for APR. Hearing good things about them, but they do not fall into the category if wanting to be the lowest you can get without ruining the Mag Ride Shocks.

I guess the better question is what else do you do with the car? There are a few applications that will work with the MagRide as they don't clunk or ride terrible but you're just getting a lowering spring that rides similar to stock, the stock springs have a lot of downfalls that can be corrected with the right spring.

The MSS Sport Kit with track front spring sounds right up your alley ( if you're welling to spend the money that is) Offering a 10-40mm lower than stock right height capability, these will be lower than all springs on your list. Expect full life out of your DCC Shock too.

Johns RS3 with said kit and no rubbing.

I personally can't wait to get these installed on my 18 S3

[ralphie_43]

My car (A3 Quattro) is lowered on neuspeed springs been for about 2 months now it's little bumpy but not too horrible
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[MonzaA4]

Been running H&R sport spring (on magride suspension) for more than a year now. They advertised it as 0.75 inch of a drop, but after settling its definitely 1" drop. No issue so far, ride quality in Dynamic is amazing but in comfort it can get a bit bouncy at times. you can see the wheel gap pictures in my IG account.

Can you confirm you're running H&R Sport springs (not Super Sports)? I'm asking because the drop you're seeing with the "Sport" springs looks pretty aggressive and more like what I would have expected with "Super Sports." I think I'm leaning toward your set-up as it seems to be the optimal mix of drop and driving dynamics.

[S3owner]

Can you confirm you're running H&R Sport springs (not Super Sports)? I'm asking because the drop you're seeing with the "Sport" springs looks pretty aggressive and more like what I would have expected with "Super Sports." I think I'm leaning toward your set-up as it seems to be the optimal mix of drop and driving dynamics.

It is h&r sport spring (not super sport).

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[DS3]

I am running h&r super sport with no issues. I have h&r sport springs for sale if you're interested.

[ZachFaires123]

I work at 034, or shop s3 has the dynamic springs. Ride is really nice and it handles very well. I think the drop on it is perfect


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[MonzaA4]

I work at 034, or shop s3 has the dynamic springs. Ride is really nice and it handles very well. I think the drop on it is perfect

Thanks for the input. I'm about to pull the trigger on a spring purchase for my 2017 FL S3 (with Dynamic ride) and ride height is my greatest concern. I don't want to invest in ~$300+installation and then be disappointed in lack of drop. I'm going crazy reading all of the posts on this topic because of the conflicting opinions/experiences with different brands. At the risk of opening up the same conversation again, I'm looking for a few clarifications:

- 034 is my leading preference right now, but many on this forum have said that the 034 springs have a noticeably less aggressive drop than other brands claiming the same 0.75-inch drop. I'm hoping someone can comment on this and verify once and for all. Also, for those running 034 now, did you notice any settling over time after they were broken-in?

- ED springs are very popular, but I'm confounded by the optional rear spacers -- do I need them or not??? Will not installing them result in nasty negative rake? Will installing them result in negating the lowering effect altogether? It seems to me that going with a spring set that doesn't require spacers (like 034) would simply things significantly. Yes/no?

- H&R Sports are a tempting option because consensus is that the stance is spot-on and ride height is properly aggressive (especially when settled) but with a potential for annoying bounce in Comfort mode. Deal killer?
[Side Note: H&R Super Sports are a definite no-go given confirmed feedback on diminished ride quality. MSS is out due to price.]

Just looking for some final wisdom before the credit card comes out!

[XLR8 Craig]

It is unfortunate counting out MSS Based on price. But I certainly get it they are not cheap. Fully Adjustable Sport kit with track front spring checks all your boxes other than price. It will provide you with H&R Super Sport like drop but offer the famed ride quality of all MSS Kits.

I still think 034 Springs are your best option based off your requirements, but you will be sacrificing ride height. They likely will not be low enough for you. You should think long and hard about this and prioritize what you want the most from the suspension. For cars with Mag Ride it is hard to have your cake and eat it too because most companies don't take the time to refine the springs to the point where comfort and performance are not compromised. MSS Kits do. But you pay for that!

Cheers!

[MonzaA4]

I still think 034 Springs are your best option based off your requirements, but you will be sacrificing ride height. They likely will not be low enough for you. You should think long and hard about this and prioritize what you want the most from the suspension. For cars with Mag Ride it is hard to have your cake and eat it too because most companies don't take the time to refine the springs to the point where comfort and performance are not compromised. MSS Kits do. But you pay for that! Cheers!

Appreciate the feedback! If I was interested in tracking the car (I'm not) MSS would be a slam dunk for me and well worth the investment. In my case, you've captured my concerns spot-on, especially regarding the pluses/minuses of the 034 kit. I'll continue to research and see what the forums say before taking the plunge.

[HBird]

Thanks for the input. I'm about to pull the trigger on a spring purchase for my 2017 FL S3 (with Dynamic ride) and ride height is my greatest concern. I don't want to invest in ~$300+installation and then be disappointed in lack of drop. I'm going crazy reading all of the posts on this topic because of the conflicting opinions/experiences with different brands. At the risk of opening up the same conversation again, I'm looking for a few clarifications:

- 034 is my leading preference right now, but many on this forum have said that the 034 springs have a noticeably less aggressive drop than other brands claiming the same 0.75-inch drop. I'm hoping someone can comment on this and verify once and for all. Also, for those running 034 now, did you notice any settling over time after they were broken-in?

- ED springs are very popular, but I'm confounded by the optional rear spacers -- do I need them or not??? Will not installing them result in nasty negative rake? Will installing them result in negating the lowering effect altogether? It seems to me that going with a spring set that doesn't require spacers (like 034) would simply things significantly. Yes/no?

- H&R Sports are a tempting option because consensus is that the stance is spot-on and ride height is properly aggressive (especially when settled) but with a potential for annoying bounce in Comfort mode. Deal killer?
[Side Note: H&R Super Sports are a definite no-go given confirmed feedback on diminished ride quality. MSS is out due to price.]

Just looking for some final wisdom before the credit card comes out!

My car on 034, hope it helps

Peelers are 19x8.5 w/ 245/35 Conti DWS06






RPF1s are 18x8 w/ 235/40 Michelin PSS

[MonzaA4]

My car on 034, hope it helps Peelers are 19x8.5 w/ 245/35 Conti DWS06

Thanks for the pics. Looks terrific! My set up would be closer to your Peelers as I'm sticking with the stock 19" split 5-spokes. I think I can live with that ride height -- were these pics taken right after installation or after they settled completely?

[HBird]

Thanks for the pics. Looks terrific! My set up would be closer to your Peelers as I'm sticking with the stock 19" split 5-spokes. I think I can live with that ride height -- were these pics taken right after installation or after they settled completely?

Thank you! The peelers were put on roughly 7-8 months after the springs went on.

[S23brian]

Thanks for the input. I'm about to pull the trigger on a spring purchase for my 2017 FL S3 (with Dynamic ride) and ride height is my greatest concern. I don't want to invest in ~$300+installation and then be disappointed in lack of drop. I'm going crazy reading all of the posts on this topic because of the conflicting opinions/experiences with different brands. At the risk of opening up the same conversation again, I'm looking for a few clarifications:

- 034 is my leading preference right now, but many on this forum have said that the 034 springs have a noticeably less aggressive drop than other brands claiming the same 0.75-inch drop. I'm hoping someone can comment on this and verify once and for all. Also, for those running 034 now, did you notice any settling over time after they were broken-in?

- ED springs are very popular, but I'm confounded by the optional rear spacers -- do I need them or not??? Will not installing them result in nasty negative rake? Will installing them result in negating the lowering effect altogether? It seems to me that going with a spring set that doesn't require spacers (like 034) would simply things significantly. Yes/no?

- H&R Sports are a tempting option because consensus is that the stance is spot-on and ride height is properly aggressive (especially when settled) but with a potential for annoying bounce in Comfort mode. Deal killer?
[Side Note: H&R Super Sports are a definite no-go given confirmed feedback on diminished ride quality. MSS is out due to price.]

Just looking for some final wisdom before the credit card comes out!

I also really wanted to get 034 springs but I couldn’t settle for it because of the lack of drop and since I dont plan to track, i just got the Emmanuel Design springs paired with a rear sway bar. The rake pads come with the springs so you wont have to worry much. IMG_7875.JPGThis post really sold me on the Emmanuel Design springs since it looks probably perfect for ride height. Waiting for my Volks to come in and should be perfect at 19x8.5 +38. I really wanted to dial it in perfectly. This guy with the ED springs ill post below(red s3) is running 19x9 +40 with 255/35/19 on Pilot super sports with no rubbing apparently. IMG_7529.JPG


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[stevwang]

I think I once read somewhere that when you lower the car with springs, you need to recalibrate Mag ride or it won’t ride well. Also , some said they also recalibrated Prepense/ACC, and possibly headlights, since the ride heights have been dropped.

Did any of you do this? Is it only doable at the dealership? How much approximately? Thanks.

[DiscoPotato]

H&R
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[will13k7]

moar low or moar comfort, choose one.

[S23brian]

moar low or moar comfort, choose one.

Gotta get the happy medium


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[DiscoPotato]

H&R

[MonzaA4]

H&R
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Your ride looks great. Any complaints on ride quality?

[DiscoPotato]

Your ride looks great. Any complaints on ride quality?

Ride amazing. Highly recommended. The progressive spring rate makes all the difference.

[MdnytRyder]

This is my second set of ED springs. Last was on my A3 SLine with B18’s. This time MagRide and ED springs and it’s honestly about perfect.

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