Godspeed MonoMAX Coilovers.... To good to be true?

[zauggerr]

Anyone know anything about Godspeed MonoMAX's? Ive only found a couple threads mentioning them, and people seem to note that they like them.

850$ is pretty cheap...
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-godspeed...g/mmx3320~god/


I was planning on going for the H&R's....
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-h-and-r-...mping/29092-1/

But i keep hearing they are pretty stiff/harsh. the Godspeeds have adjustable dampening, and im thinking theres a chance they could be more forgiving?


Thoughts?

Also i know you get what you pay for... just dont have 1800$+ to drop on coils right now..

[Phil Dammit]

I too am in the market for adjustable dampening coilovers that arent breaking my bank account bht also not being absolute crap. Been looking around at BC, Ksport, and others as the more common flavors do not have the dampening option. I have seen a few reviews on both Ksport and BC and both manu's came back with positive feedback with Ksport having positive feedback on various german platforms. The 40 adjustment levels is a bit insane for my taste as a 12-18 combo should do the trick for my mostly daily'd garage queen.

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[CollecTTor]

They're all the same rebranded crap coming out of the China factories. I'm surprised they actually list the spring rates, at 550#F/307# rear, which is better than most of these cheap brands. That said, do those spring rates suit the B8 chassis or are they the generic spring rates that come on everything they make regardless of platform? The super duper 285 way adjustable shocks are likely crap. There is always going to be cross talk between rebound and compression adjustments unless you are on some REALLY high end coilovers. So adjusting compression affects rebound and vice versa. Basically you're blindly guessing and just going to go by feel, which may give the ride quality you want but actually hurt overall handling capability. I'm of the theory that the less to adjust, the better, when it comes to suspension. If you can't drop the money on quality coilovers, H&R, Bilstein, etc, then enjoy what you have. If you only care about going lower and won't mind the blown shocks you will probably have in a year or two (which probably can't be rebuilt), then go for it.

[zauggerr]

They're all the same rebranded crap coming out of the China factories. I'm surprised they actually list the spring rates, at 550#F/307# rear, which is better than most of these cheap brands. That said, do those spring rates suit the B8 chassis or are they the generic spring rates that come on everything they make regardless of platform? The super duper 285 way adjustable shocks are likely crap. There is always going to be cross talk between rebound and compression adjustments unless you are on some REALLY high end coilovers. So adjusting compression affects rebound and vice versa. Basically you're blindly guessing and just going to go by feel, which may give the ride quality you want but actually hurt overall handling capability. I'm of the theory that the less to adjust, the better, when it comes to suspension. If you can't drop the money on quality coilovers, H&R, Bilstein, etc, then enjoy what you have. If you only care about going lower and won't mind the blown shocks you will probably have in a year or two (which probably can't be rebuilt), then go for it.

Yeah thats pretty much what i figured... My goal is to just get rid of the stock 3" wheel gap, just want to be able to adjust it to about .50-75" above the tire. Dont think thats asking to much in terms of "low".

But for 850, even if they blow after 2 years of hard use, i honestly woundnt even be that mad...

My biggest concern is how harsh the of a ride they would be, if i Knew that the H&R's would be more "plush" i would probably spend the extra, but knowing the HR's are stiff, and have no dampening control is making me consider the cheaper option.

So i guess ill ask next, is the spring rate for the monomax's "softer" or more forgiving than the H&R's?

Only reason im so concerned is my commute is all backroads and i live in CT, roads here are brutal in the winter..

[Jimcoily]

godspeed has been making cheap coils for a while, they have a lot of bad reviews for other platforms. I was looking for coils for my G35 a few years ago and also thought the price was nice but ended up going with RSR lowering spring koni shocks. 2 years later I sold the car with them on it and new owner still has them on. I don't think the godspeed coils would have lasted that long.

[theweebabyseamus]

Dinan's new coilovers launched at $950, I don't know if they are still around that price but they typically make good products and had the drop amount you were looking for.

[08ISF]

From what I remember Godspeed used to name everything but years ago redid the company to only focus on suspension. Heard the quality of their products is better now but this was coming from Honda guys. BC coilovers are $100/corner to rebuild and have held up well on my past cars

[zauggerr]

Dinan's new coilovers launched at $950, I don't know if they are still around that price but they typically make good products and had the drop amount you were looking for.

HMMMMM didnt know they even offered stuff for Audis. is there a launch thread for them here on audizine?

those might be what i want right there...

[theweebabyseamus]

HMMMMM didnt know they even offered stuff for Audis. is there a launch thread for them here on audizine?

those might be what i want right there...

There was but I cant recall any taglines or anything. They just started on Audis.

[Phil Dammit]

Dinan's new coilovers launched at $950, I don't know if they are still around that price but they typically make good products and had the drop amount you were looking for.

Like other threads on here state, look like a set of rebadged soloworks. Wonder if internals are different to necessitate the jump in price.



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[theweebabyseamus]

Having known Dinan from the BMW realm, I’d highly doubt they would go that route.

[SDV325]

Same crap different platform.

These were popular with the street racer fanboys (doing everything as cheap as possible!) on my old Subaru platform as well, you get what you pay for with stuff like this. Always a year maybe two users reported failures, poor fitment and generally a waste of money.

[AudBoost]

The fact they are made out of Carbon Steel instead of stainless should be a good indicator to stay away from them.

[SDV325]

The fact they are made out of Carbon Steel instead of stainless should be a good indicator to stay away from them.

Just FYI, no suspension parts are made from stainless steel (maybe the rods). The bodies and brackets are always carbon steel and are either painted or electroplated for corrosion resistance.

[kdf8454]

Just FYI, no suspension parts are made from stainless steel (maybe the rods). The bodies and brackets are always carbon steel and are either painted or electroplated for corrosion resistance.

https://www.kwsuspensions.com/coilovers/inox_line/

[CollecTTor]

So i guess ill ask next, is the spring rate for the monomax's "softer" or more forgiving than the H&R's?

My research shows H&R Streets are 450#F/450# rear. None of this takes into account motion ratios or actual dampening rates. You'd have to dyno the shocks for that, and that WOULD tell you what the ride was going to be like. Unfortunately, no one dyno's shocks much less buys multiple brands to dyno and compare. This leads to one persons opinion becoming the rumor becoming gospel, ie H&R's are stiff. On what platform? With what tires/wheels? What other mods? I hope you see my point.

Applying motion ratios (0.628F and 0.9R) to spring rates, gives the following wheel rates.
OEM: 189F/162R
H&R Streets: 270F/277R
Godspeed 217F/249R

Again, all this has nothing to do with ride quality, only effective wheel rates. Dampening on H&R could be crap, and Godspeed could be critically damped to those wheel rates, but common sense tells you H&R is going to match theirs to the rates based on their effective "tuning," which is probably a hell of a lot more thorough and applied individually than Godspeed slapping the same dampening and spring rates on everything. I know this didn't answer you question, but I hope it helps.

[SDV325]

https://www.kwsuspensions.com/coilovers/inox_line/

well never mind then ha, learn something new everyday. thought stainless would have been too expensive for suspension parts.

[zauggerr]

My research shows H&R Streets are 450#F/450# rear. None of this takes into account motion ratios or actual dampening rates. You'd have to dyno the shocks for that, and that WOULD tell you what the ride was going to be like. Unfortunately, no one dyno's shocks much less buys multiple brands to dyno and compare. This leads to one persons opinion becoming the rumor becoming gospel, ie H&R's are stiff. On what platform? With what tires/wheels? What other mods? I hope you see my point.

Applying motion ratios (0.628F and 0.9R) to spring rates, gives the following wheel rates.
OEM: 189F/162R
H&R Streets: 270F/277R
Godspeed 217F/249R

Again, all this has nothing to do with ride quality, only effective wheel rates. Dampening on H&R could be crap, and Godspeed could be critically damped to those wheel rates, but common sense tells you H&R is going to match theirs to the rates based on their effective "tuning," which is probably a hell of a lot more thorough and applied individually than Godspeed slapping the same dampening and spring rates on everything. I know this didn't answer you question, but I hope it helps.

lol, yeah i appreciate the effort. still not sure. I have a buddy with H&R streets on his s4, im going to take that for a drive sometime this week. If it seems soft enough for my liking ill stick with them...

[tar]

Dinan's new coilovers launched at $950, I don't know if they are still around that price but they typically make good products and had the drop amount you were looking for.

Dinan has pulled out of the audi platform they ditched all their stuff a month or 2 ago on eBay. Coils were 450.

They left audi due to their parent company buying gaypr or vice versa and not wanting the brands to compete. Im sure we will see the same coils but Apr branded pop up forsale at 1500-2k very soon. That Apr markup.

[CollecTTor]

Im sure we will see the same coils but Apr branded pop up forsale at 1500-2k very soon. That Apr markup.

They're just trying to lock in fanboi's FO LYFE!