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    Post Looking To buy 2013 Audi rs5 Misano red pearl, have questions please help!

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    Hello all, as title states I'm going to look at a 2013 Audi RS5 Misano red pearl. I have done some research on this car in this forum which has been helpful but find some questions unanswered. My main questions include

    1. Overall reliability of the car/engine - what miles are you at? Any major issues?
    2. Maintenance - how often are you doing general maintenance/how long are brakes lasting etc
    3. Price of said maintenance - Brakes/oil change etc.
    4. Your overall experience and opinion of the car Good/Bad, things you might change.
    5. Did you switch from a manual, if so how did you feel about it?
    6. When examining the car is there anything I should really look for.

    Some backstory, Me and my GF own 2 Subaru Sti's (2013 /2015) We are looking to get rid of one as we don't need 2 of the same car. We will be keeping my 2013 and trading in her 2015. This car will only most likely get wheels and an exhaust, as we have other toys for race car times or going fast. The car will for sure see a lot of road time hence why we are concerned about the maintenance side of things. Our Subaru's have been good to us , no issues so far but Subaru always will have some sort of issue around the 100k most like head gasket, so wondering if there is anything like that with this car. Thank ahead of time for answering any questions.

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    The think the car is overall a solid car . I got the car two years ago at 29 k and it currently sits at 41k with me only having to do brakes and rotors.

    1. Overall reliability of the car/engine - what miles are you at? Any major issues? I doubt you will see many issues at all. The motor is pretty bullet proof. Besides for the common carbon build up.
    2. Maintenance - how often are you doing general maintenance/how long are brakes lasting etc.. You will eat through brakes and rotors pretty quickly . However, i would look into aftermarket ones once you eat through the oem set.
    3. Price of said maintenance - Brakes/oil change etc. -- Brakes are going to run me around 2500 for the entire car and oil change was i think 100.
    4. Your overall experience and opinion of the car Good/Bad, things you might change.-- The car is not a power house, but you will love every min of the high reving motor.
    5. Did you switch from a manual, if so how did you feel about it? You will probably drive the car in manual and sport mode most of the time simply due to the fact that comfort mode sucks ass..
    6. When examining the car is there anything I should really look for. Check to see how the brakes are and if the dealer can replace them before purchase.

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    1. At 42K. No issues. I have only replaced the front rotors and pads (not cheap). Look on the ECS turning site for part paricing
    2. Oil change every 5K miles and I have audi care that takes care of regular maintenance.
    3. Oil change: $150 at the dealer and they do other work for me
    4. Love the car. I did not realize that 450HP is not considered a power house :P. Torque is low as it is not a non turbo V8
    5. I always drive in sport mode and use the paddle shifters. the shifting is unbelievably fast but you can she why by researching the transmission
    6. Get the service records.

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    450 is high in hp , but weight to power ratio sucks. If the rs5 was lighter it would be a monster. But its a fat pig in my eyes...But i love my fat pig...=)

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    Thanks for your feedback. My biggest concern is brakes due since this will not be a garage queen and I drive a lot, looking at ecs rotors are 1700$ and pads around 500$ 100$ oil change isn't that big of a deal to me but 2k Breaks is eh considering my Sti for aftermarket everything is 1k. The only other thing is going to switch from Stick to paddles. Wont be that big of an issue considering I will still have my Sti but might be weird for a little. I know the car is slow for 450Hp but thats awesome!! Its an insane first world issue but with the Sti when you floor it you are going 100+ in a couple seconds. The rs5 I can rev the shit out of it hear some awesome sounds and not being going 120 in 3 seconds.

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    The ECS rotors last a lot longer than the OEM rotors for a street-driven car. JHM makes a slightly less expensive set that are just as good. A pad swap, right off the bat, will also help with the wear issue. The other option is to find a car with optional ceramic brakes. They'll last just about forever if you're not tracking the car. Also, the fronts are the ones that tend to wear out quickly, not the rears. Some don't have any issues with front rotor wear.

    If you're mechanical, the cost of maintenance drops substantially. Oil changes are around $100 for DIY, full synthetic with filter. It's totally doable to swap pads and rotors yourself although you'll need a VCDS for the rear brakes to reset them. Audi says you can go 10K for oil changes, most people do half that as previously mentioned. If you are a DIY kind of owner, plan on purchasing a few new tools as German cars use a lot of faster types not found on Japanese cars.

    Carbon buildup is the biggest "issue" really. An independent shop can do a clean for about $800. Figure doing it every 35 to 40K miles to keep things in tip top shape. Cars go longer without issue.

    Servicing is critical on the RS5. Make sure the car has documented service at the appropriate times. You didn't say how many miles the car had but there's a 15K, 30K, 45K and 55K service. The 15K, 30K and the 55K are pretty important and you need to make sure the S-tronic and rear differential were serviced on "both sides" at the appropriate mileage. The gearbox and rear differential have a side filled with ATF and a side filled with gear oil. One or the other or both are changed depending on which service it is. If I remember correctly, the 30K and 55K are the most expensive. You can also purchase Audicare in advance of the service and save some money. The 45K service is a glorified oil change.

    A lot of owners purchased Audicare ahead of time. It stays with the car. So you may have one or two services that haven't been used yet. They do expire and your Audi dealer can tell you when they need to be used by. For example, I have one Audicare left, the 45K service, which expires in April. I'll have my car serviced in March before it reaches 45K miles (unless I really drive a lot here in the next month). So it's mileage and time based.

    Tires are going to be more expensive but there are affordable options out there that are competent.

    Overall, as others have said, the car is pretty darn reliable. It's no E90 series M3. Those cars are complete nightmares.

    On what to look for, make sure the car shifts smoothly, especially when driven slow. There shouldn't be any big shudders or clunks when coming to a stop or starting out from a stop. Make sure the rear spoiler deploys and retracts correctly. Make sure the gas cap flap opens and closes correctly. Turn the wheel fully left and right at a stop and turn slowly and make sure there are no clicks. The front differential will "skip" a bit but you're coming from an STi so you'll be familiar with the idiosyncrasies of AWD cars.

    It's also not unheard of for a suspension bushing to go bad on Audis.

    The rest of "what to look for" is standard used car stuff.

    Misano Red is the best and fastest color. Fact. I'm completely unbiased.


    As others have said, it's not the fastest. I've heard people call the RS5 "big boned" but honestly, the car doesn't feel it. It hides it's weight well and it'll have serious, serious pace if driven how it should be driven. My biggest complaint is you have to be going darned fast to have a lot of fun with the car. It can be frustrating, daily driven, as windows of exploitation are few and far between. But it's so real-world capable, any weather, any time. It's a truly great car with a dual personality.
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    Thanks for all the info Ape. I was actually hoping you would comment on my post as I have been seeing you post relevant information everywhere on this forum! The Rs5 I am going to look at has 27k miles on it and By looking at its CarFax the appropriate services have been done on the car. I am 100% DIY so that's good to hear, I do have some german tools from my E46 M3 I just sold so hopefully won't have to buy much. Not too concerned about tires as I can get them at wholesale cost. My main concern was 2k brakes hopefully they just don't wear too fast. Also Misano Red is by far the best color!

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    Coming from a background of only American and Asian made cars (Chevy, Dodge, Subaru, Hyundai) to my first German car I can say overall the maintenance is more expensive. The service intervals are longer (i.e. 10K miles between oil changes) and simple things are easier to do (i.e. changing headlights), however every time you take it to the shop look at dropping hundreds to thousands.

    ...but the driving experience is worth every penny!
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    I experienced this with my M3 but with just parts as I did all my own work, yes it does suck its more expensive but I do enjoy the car. I just feel like when it comes to luxury sport cars Americans/Japanese manufacturers haven't nailed it yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UglyCreature View Post
    Thanks for all the info Ape. I was actually hoping you would comment on my post as I have been seeing you post relevant information everywhere on this forum! The Rs5 I am going to look at has 27k miles on it and By looking at its CarFax the appropriate services have been done on the car. I am 100% DIY so that's good to hear, I do have some german tools from my E46 M3 I just sold so hopefully won't have to buy much. Not too concerned about tires as I can get them at wholesale cost. My main concern was 2k brakes hopefully they just don't wear too fast. Also Misano Red is by far the best color!
    If the rotors were swapped out earlier in the car's life, they may be well within spec. I think the JHM front brake disks are $800 and a decent set of pads is about $250 and if you swap them yourself, you've just saved a grand.
    https://jhmotorsports.com/products/b...or-b8-rs5.html

    I believe the minimum thickness is 32mm on the iron rotors. I had a dealer try to sell me on their RS5 with severely grooved rotors. I asked for the rotor specs and they were right at 32mm. The sales person said they were fine and they wouldn't replace them. Four weeks later, they still had the car. Sure enough, they'd replaced the rotors but wouldn't budge on their price. So I bought the car I have now. Stick to your guns and go in well informed. Be prepared to walk and continue looking.

    I will say this, knowing what I know now, I'd probably consider a car without the adaptive cruise/dynamic steering. Neither is perfect and can be a distraction at times. I do like the side assist when driving in the city.

    I'm a relative newbie around here, I'm just fumbling my way towards being competent when it comes to the RS5. It's a steep learning curve. Plenty of really knowledgeable people on this forum that are willing to share their experiences.
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