ODB11 vs Ross Tech

[IceyTys]

Thinking of going Ross Tech 10 vin....but someone mentioned ODB11. Looking for simple changes like roll down windows....LED, emergency braking....and Service resets.....is Ross Tech worth the extra $$$?

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[BB c7]

Thinking of going Ross Tech 10 vin....but someone mentioned ODB11. Looking for simple changes like roll down windows....LED, emergency braking....and Service resets.....is Ross Tech worth the extra $$$?

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I have OBDEleven pro. It works fine for most of the mods and service reset and scan engine diagnostic it can also clear codes. Seems to me it is almost same as ross tech. But never owned ross tech so I don’t have real comparison.


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[Dasquade]

Obd11 is very handy and good. Does the job very well and i like, especially for what it only costs.
Only downside it, some long coding didnt worked for me (but dont have ross to confirm it worked there).
Once you starts data loging, app tends to crash if you pick too much parameters at ones in graphic form but kinda normal i guess (old s6 samsung phone ;) ).
I can really suggest it, it is very users friendly especially with the build in 'one click' apps :) and restore function.

[Blk rse]

I have both,but Ross tech you have to know what you doing and it’s better on long coding and adaptation as for odbeleven pro it’s easy but can be costly when start buying special features it adds up


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[IceyTys]

Great feedback guys, thanks. I am mainly interested in the following adaptations:

- Roll down windows and sun roof via remote
- Adaptive brake lights
- LED brightness adjust
- Lowering air suspension
- Reset service indicator

Does anyone know if ODB 11 will do this and what do each mod typically cost? I wondering if I am purchasing each of the above separately, it would wind up more than the $300 for the Ross Tech cable . Sounds like me needs to do some research here

Thanks all

[SleekS7]

Great feedback guys, thanks. I am mainly interested in the following adaptations:

- Roll down windows and sun roof via remote
- Adaptive brake lights
- LED brightness adjust
- Lowering air suspension
- Reset service indicator

Does anyone know if ODB 11 will do this and what do each mod typically cost? I wondering if I am purchasing each of the above separately, it would wind up more than the $300 for the Ross Tech cable . Sounds like me needs to do some research here

Thanks all

OBD11 will do all that for no cost. The additional costs are if you pay for the convenience of using their one click apps which are point based. But you can also get free points by opening the app daily and watching short videos. Otherwise its the same exact coding you would have to do with Rosstech anyway.

[IceyTys]

OBD11 will do all that for no cost. The additional costs are if you pay for the convenience of using their one click apps which are point based. But you can also get free points by opening the app daily and watching short videos. Otherwise its the same exact coding you would have to do with Rosstech anyway.

Awesome, thats great to hear SleekS7........I just downloaded the app a bit ago and am doing some research now. I did see most of their "one click" apps and the associated credits for each. I didnt see anything about lowering the air suspension, but I will review more. Thats cool you can earn credits. Assume once you have purchased one of their click apps you dont have re-buy if you need to do it again?

[SleekS7]

Awesome, thats great to hear SleekS7........I just downloaded the app a bit ago and am doing some research now. I did see most of their "one click" apps and the associated credits for each. I didnt see anything about lowering the air suspension, but I will review more. Thats cool you can earn credits. Assume once you have purchased one of their click apps you dont have re-buy if you need to do it again?

Credits are used each time you use a one click app, even the same app like resetting your service alert. Again it's only for added convenience, you can do the same mod through regular coding without credits. I never paid for any credits and have ~250 banked right now.

Air suspension lowering is only through coding as everyone's calibrations are different and you will have to calculate your own amount of lowering. Read through this original thread for air lowering. http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...-AAS-with-VCDS
And this for a good list of known VCDS mods: http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...-list-and-help

[Dasquade]

Awesome, thats great to hear SleekS7........I just downloaded the app a bit ago and am doing some research now. I did see most of their "one click" apps and the associated credits for each. I didnt see anything about lowering the air suspension, but I will review more. Thats cool you can earn credits. Assume once you have purchased one of their click apps you dont have re-buy if you need to do it again?

Lowering will have to be done with the long coding or is it the adaption (you know, you will need to follow the same as you do with the ross tech). If it works, i don't know as i have never tried (went for the module). Normally it should work, altough i did had a few adaptations that didn't worked (mostly with the security codes).
I would suggest you buy the 'pro' version as that allows you long coding and live data logging (never know when you need it, but comes in handy when you have it).
LED brightness is also an adaptation (or long coding), unless they changed it and made an app for it.
As for the apps and credits. If not mistaken when you buy the 'pro' (only a few bucks more, but get the extra's) you do get a few free credits. If not mistaken you daily get 1 credit, but can get 1 more if you check the sponsored adds. It sucks a bit, but give it a few weeks and you can do all you need (i have it for a year or longer now).
I do believe you need to use credits every time you retry an app, but like said, over time you have tons of credits. Restoring to stock doesn't costs credits...

[OlyS6]

For what it's worth, you can get the Rosstech 3VIN version for $199 via europaparts.com.

I can't speak to the OBDeleven, but I do like the versatility of the VCDS software using the Rosstech cable during logging sessions in addition to the other uses you are looking for.

[elp_jc]

OBD11 will do all that for no cost.

Hey, did you buy it? I'm interested on one of those too, but depends what's the cost difference. I don't like having to haul my bulky laptop to the garage. Does the OBD11 works with your phone? And is it available for an iPhone6S+? I'd like to add to your list the lap timer (for oil temp), disable US 'reflectors', and another few such features. Will search for more info on that thing. I thought it was just VCDS or nothing. I'd buy the 3-VIN one, so I'll be comparing the OBD11 vs the $199 VCDS. Thanks.

[Dasquade]

Afaik still android only :( (maybe buy second hand android phone?)

[SleekS7]

Hey, did you buy it? I'm interested on one of those too, but depends what's the cost difference. I don't like having to haul my bulky laptop to the garage. Does the OBD11 works with your phone? And is it available for an iPhone6S+? I'd like to add to your list the lap timer (for oil temp), disable US 'reflectors', and another few such features. Will search for more info on that thing. I thought it was just VCDS or nothing. I'd buy the 3-VIN one, so I'll be comparing the OBD11 vs the $199 VCDS. Thanks.

I bought the PRO version about a year ago for $60, but looks like it's increased to $80 now. Yes I use it on my phone and it's Android only, but like Dasquade said, you can just buy a cheap Android phone or tablet for it. I did pretty much all the codings in the link I provided with OBDEleven, including the laptimer and side markers.

[elp_jc]

Okay, will look into the Android phone, but also not happy about a phone I don't use. Seems like it'd be about the same expense, so maybe the VCDS will be the 'better' option. He he. Hey, may I ask those who lowered the suspension what exactly it does? Does lowering the suspension alters the shock settings too, or just lowers the suspension, maintaining the same ride quality but just lower (also meaning suspension could bottom out easier due to less suspension travel)? How about if you 'raise' the car? Would it raise to the previous height, or is also relative to the new lower stance? I'd like to retain the ability to raise the car to the height it goes now. I'd like to definitely lower it in 'dynamic' mode, but also need to understand the SAFE minimum ride height according to Audi. Somebody mentioned the most drop is 17mm, but they didn't mention if 17mm lower than comfort, auto, or dynamic. I only want it a bit more than it goes now, maybe 10mm more; that's it. My last question is if 'auto' has its own ride height, or it's a combination of comfort and dynamic (when at 70+ mph). I understand auto like a combination of comfort and dynamic, but maybe I'm wrong. The only setting the manual lists a bit different is the steering, saying it retains the exact same ratios as comfort, but with a bit less assist. All other settings seem to me they're a combination. Thank you guys.

[IceyTys]

Obd11 is very handy and good. Does the job very well and i like, especially for what it only costs.
Only downside it, some long coding didnt worked for me (but dont have ross to confirm it worked there).
Once you starts data loging, app tends to crash if you pick too much parameters at ones in graphic form but kinda normal i guess (old s6 samsung phone ;) ).
I can really suggest it, it is very users friendly especially with the build in 'one click' apps :) and restore function.

Have you tried to do the lowering via long coding and it didnt work? I've been doing some research and I havent found anyone who's been able to lower the car via ODBEleven, but I also havent found someone who hasnt. I really want this feature as part of my purchase, so I'd pay the extra if RossTech is the only way to go on that.

[SleekS7]

I've been doing some research and I havent found anyone who's been able to lower the car via ODBEleven, but I also havent found someone who hasnt.

I lowered mine with OBDEleven. The long coding is the exact same as with RossTech.

[IceyTys]

I lowered mine with OBDEleven. The long coding is the exact same as with RossTech.

Excellent!!! Sorry I must have missed that in your post.....THANK YOU!!!!

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[SleekS7]

One caveat for OBDEleven... Your Android device must have internet connectivity to use it as the app connects back to an online database, not a big deal if you only plan to make changes in your garage with wifi or on your phone with data service. But if you plan to use it on a tablet or non activated phone, you won't be able to make changes without a data connection, unless you have Audi Connect wifi, then nevermind.

[gta7]

I own both. I like the Ross Tech better on my RS7 as the platform coding is so well defined.

I’m not an android guy so I bought an android Samsung galaxy tab but I wanted a decent one.

On my wife’s 2017 Q7 I like the obdeleven because it’s easier to use and not a lot is out there on coding.

You do have to pay every time though to use their mini programs both ways enabling and disabling. Expensive and annoying.

[elp_jc]

I'm about to place an order for a VCDS right now. Was doing research yesterday, and what pushed me over VCDS is the dismal service on OBD11. Guess you get what you pay for. If you're an expert, maybe you'll never need tech support. But even without that, people who had overcharging issues and such could never get a reply, so their service really sucks. Plus they could go bust at any time, leaving you with a useless tool. Plus that app not being IOS friendly, the expense would be much closer to $199 than if I had an Android device, so will order VCDS. Also noticed people renting it for about $40 for a week, shipping both ways included. Apparently it's an unlimited USB cable, so guy is making good money. Ha ha. But I think I should be able to sell a 3-VIN with 2 left for at least half the price, so not really worth doing that, since any dealer visit would put things back to stock. The best deal would be to find a used one cheap, so will look for one before ordering, but don't know if you'd get tech support without being the original buyer. If not, then it's probably worth getting a new one. Good day folks.

[arrivalanche]

I have OBDeleven and Im really happy with it. My friend that has Ross isnt going to update his anymore and just get an OBD11 due to the price and being really impressed by the interface. Your concern with the support shouldnt really be a concern. Everything that applies for Ross applies for OBD11 for programming and the app is through the store so any purchase through the app is protected by the store.

[elp_jc]

Just ordered a new VCDS. There were a few used for sale cheaper, but with a ton of them fake (but identical looking to the real thing), not worth potentially throwing money away, so bit the bullet and bought it new. Yes, the OBD11 could have been cheaper, but without an Android device, it just wasn't attractive to me to buy what it's unquestionably an inferior product... although it might be more than enough for most users. I should be able to easily get enough money when I sell it to be less than what I'd have spent on a OBD11, so really no sense in buying that unit, but to each his own.