RSNAV

[a4android]

I have the S1 and want to give RSNAV another go.

Daniel, I have some concerns and questions I want to Iron out before purchase.
So I have a Audi A5 2012 it is a facelift, Has a concert system. My S1 has only 2 real bugs that grate on me, 1'st is the Parking sensors not being picked up (I think because RSNAV looks for a Parking Assist module but on the FL its the Cent Elec module that handles Parking Sensors)
and the music glitch when you leave sound playing exit car enter car now it needs a reboot to get audio back.

Does the S3 have these issues? and if no what are the current known issues?
I want the 8.8 as I personally like to keep it OEM and the 7inch S1 has done fine for me In that regard. So as I noticed on the site mentions of trimming needed can you please expand on what needs trimming?
Also, I notice it comes with dial trim replacements, Is this the same on the RHD UK model? and do you have to replace the dial trims? and if so are the RSNAV trims 100% identical in shape to the existing Audi ones?
And I wondered if I want to fit the MMI Control Panel on my concert would rsnav utilise the buttons on it ? or do I need to retrofit the MMI 3G Plus and then buy RSNAV for MMI 3G Plus?


Thanks,
Thomas

Hi,
let me address your questions and concerns rathe honestly.
1. parking sensors not being picked up.
The mystery is lately solved that in certain cars in RHD market is equipped with different version of parking sensor from what US car has and it only works when we use facelift canbus command sets. Then again, if we are to use the FL command sets, then MMI console gets malfunctioned because different communication protocol speed. So, we came up with another solution that let people use FL command sets while manually change the MMI console comm. speed in another setting. In short, it is now solved, but a proper setting is required for 2011,12 RHD cars.

2. Music playback goes mute until you reboot.
That is really a serious and hard-to-solve problem that somewhat audio memory is filled with garbage data and crashing over the time.
This horribly flawed issue is the manifest that the Taiwanese manufacturer - Mediatek is not a reliable partner but just greedy engineering sales company.
We asked them to fix million times but their response was like 'buy new platform'. Because of that, we had to go default on this issue, and eventually the previous factory got closed.
Anyway, that is why S3 is rebooting every time. you turn off your car. It can be stay awake in behind upto 30 minutes, but it does reboot when you walk away from your car.
Hopefully, S3 boots up within 30 seconds or so, so that isn't really any complaint these days. Even while booting up, the reverse view works fine. We implemented play from last known position feature, but that is not working with all the music apps.

There is no RHD 8.8 available. New dial control is not provided for RHD market. Long story short, somebody bought the right for it and prohibited anyone else using it. I think only a UK based reseller is offering that control. Currently we are offering only 10.25" for RHD market without the control knob. I have a long story about the UK reseller and how nasty they are against us that slamming our unit against their aliexpress-identical-but-rebranded-unit on their website, leaving mockery comments in rsnav facebook community(I am sure Richard and/or Gramhamm will appear here sooner or later), and so much more. But anyway, for your information, that is the case for RHD market. If you really want that knob control, you may want to consider their unit.

You can't use the MMI control panel with the concert radio. MMI console requires booting commands from MMI. But I think somebody made aftermarket console kit for concert radio. I saw someone trying to sell that in RSNAV community in facebook. That was interesting, but I am not sure how that incorporates with Android units. I am not sure if upgrading to 3GP has a worth to do now, but you can do that if you really want.

In short, hopefully S3 is doing much much better than S1 and at least I appreciate everyone who give us second chance despite S1 HW3.0 caused a lot of trouble for everyone. I think you should check out our facebook community (RSNAV - not the official page, but closed group run by UK based admins, parted from ourselves) how S3 is doing.

I hope this give you an idea which path you want to go.

[S4UCY1]

I have no complaints with my RSNAV s3 setup. I use my phone's hotspot and play YouTube and Netflix on it with no issues. It's $750 to make your car look newer and sound better it's a no brainer.

[bowdwn]

I have no complaints with my RSNAV s3 setup. I use my phone's hotspot and play YouTube and Netflix on it with no issues. It's $750 to make your car look newer and sound better it's a no brainer.

Unless it’s ur second time making the purchase ....
Happy to hear the S3 is doing better than the my original S1

[S4UCY1]

This is the only one I have purchased so I have no idea about the ones before it.

[S4UCY1]

Looks Great!

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[lex.z]

Hello all
Can anyone help me, I can't make update 03/21/18
the player does not see usb,
did everything instructions changed two usb worms
but the player writes usb empty.
Sorry Googel translation

[Nemesis tl-s]

Does anyone know if the S3 solves the cell phone problem that the original RSNAV had? Cell phone calls got so much static while using Android auto and I want to make sure this is solved before I purchase again.

[Discipulus]

Does anyone know if the S3 solves the cell phone problem that the original RSNAV had? Cell phone calls got so much static while using Android auto and I want to make sure this is solved before I purchase again.

S3 owner here, I don't use RSNAV for phone calls - I use the factory bluetooth system for that.
S3 does work ok for cellphone calls but it has a bit of echo and kinda quiet. Factory bluetooth was better

However, now there is an option to direct phone calls to the MMI system, while keeping all other audio on RSNAV, so that you can connect your phone to both at the same time and it works pretty well.

[Nemesis tl-s]

Thanks,

That was my only concern.

[Rafiks]

Latest update just fixed Netflix! Now to get my audio working. :-)

[agentsmith988]

Has anyone with a manual transmission tapped pin 3 that goes to the rear-view mirror instead of running a wire to a reverse light? Pin 3 comes from the Central Electric control module in the trunk, Connector T32c - Pin 32. It's the signal that disables the mirror auto-dim while in reverse.

Would be nice to not have to run a wire all the way to the trunk to get a reverse trigger... I just don't know if Pin 3 is a plain Jane 12v signal or a LIN BUS signal.

[radeonorama]

Not sure if anyone is interested but I've sold my RS6 and removed my RSNAV before the sale so it's up for grabs if anyone wants to make me an offer.

It was listed as "Wireless CarPlay, Wireless Android Auto Interface for Audi cars with 3G/3G+/MIB MMI × 1
A6-A7-S6-S7-RS6-RS7(C7 Pre-facelift 3G MMI+)" on the website.

Drop me a PM if you're interested 👍👍

[blackfunk]

Not sure if anyone is interested but I've sold my RS6 and removed my RSNAV before the sale so it's up for grabs if anyone wants to make me an offer.

It was listed as "Wireless CarPlay, Wireless Android Auto Interface for Audi cars with 3G/3G+/MIB MMI × 1
A6-A7-S6-S7-RS6-RS7(C7 Pre-facelift 3G MMI+)" on the website.

Drop me a PM if you're interested 👍👍

RHD unit?

[mrtrunks]

Just received my S3 unit. Thanks so much Daniel. Got it installed and it works amazingly well. The audio, in my opinion is great and I don't notice a drop in quality compared to the MMI bluetooth connection. I had quite a time with Android Auto because I accidently choose Headunit reloaded as the default and had bad connectivity issues. After switching it back to ZLink it works fantastic and connects almost instantly. I have not tried an audio call through android auto yeat but assume I will still need to do some microphone tweaking as discussed earlier in this thread. I just wanted to say so far the S3 unit as built in mid 2021 works really well and fits all of my needs. I just need to find a good spot to route the second USB to. I have a dashcam and wonder is I should use the integrated function. Has anyone used the integrated dashcam software?

[radeonorama]

RHD unit?

it's the inline version which works with the original OEM screen. Mine is rhd but can't see that mattering on these versions

[marc131285]

Hello Guys,
I know its not the correct car category here, but the basics should be quiet the same. If theres a better thread for discussion the Mod´s should move this post pls.

Last weekend I installed my RSNAV S4 10.25” in my A6 C7 (2014).
When I press the on/off button in the center console (not ignition button!) my MMI and factory screen switched on and played music for around 10-15 minutes (depends on what is set in the green menu)
Below the 2 probs I have now:

1. The big problem now is that the S4 RSNAV Screen won’t switch on but the factory radio itself do so.
2. When I turn ignition off and keep listening to music (what’s essential for me) the rsnav switch off after 1 minute.

I guess the factory radio didn’t send the wake up signal to the rsnav or whatever it supposed to send...
I’m quite sure there must be a possibility to switch the rsnav on -> together with the factory radio without pressing ignition button on (and it should stay on till factory radio turned off after 10-15 minutes) either by software or can bus adapter or other wiring of the quad lock radio plug or whatever…

I already contacted rsnav by mail (think Daniel didn’t read it yet) but maybe some of you guys figured it out already how to wire that thing up to work like factory.


Greetings from rainy Germany

[reardoma]

Has anyone figured out how to cancel the "external media source" on the dash when you use the scroll wheel on the steering wheel or center console knob to change a song?

I'd like to have it similar to the volume where when i adjust i get no screen feedback.

[Cathedral]

If anyones wondering. ALOT Of the claims on the RSNAV page are false.

AliExpress is selling the EXACT same headset for half of the price. If you dont need the RSNAV 360 Camera, there is no point in purchasing from them.

Save yourself 1/3-half the price from buying this on AliExpress.

[iCrap]

Has anyone figured out how to cancel the "external media source" on the dash when you use the scroll wheel on the steering wheel or center console knob to change a song?

I'd like to have it similar to the volume where when i adjust i get no screen feedback.

nope, i wish. dont think its possible.

If anyones wondering. ALOT Of the claims on the RSNAV page are false.

AliExpress is selling the EXACT same headset for half of the price. If you dont need the RSNAV 360 Camera, there is no point in purchasing from them.

Save yourself 1/3-half the price from buying this on AliExpress.

Apparently the hardware is the same but RSnav has it's own, better software. How true is that? I don't know. But I will say it does work very well.

[blackfunk]

nope, i wish. dont think its possible.



Apparently the hardware is the same but RSnav has it's own, better software. How true is that? I don't know. But I will say it does work very well.

In addition you're really paying for the support that comes with RSNAV. Updates most like won't happen on any of the other Ali Express units - its a trade off get a more expensive unit that comes with some future proofing vs saving some money upfront and knowing that your product is frozen in time.

[timmyzr1]

In addition you're really paying for the support that comes with RSNAV. Updates most like won't happen on any of the other Ali Express units - its a trade off get a more expensive unit that comes with some future proofing vs saving some money upfront and knowing that your product is frozen in time.

Like basically every other HU!!! It sounds like there is lots of bugs even with the S4!!

[GeicoGecko]

I always hear/read about RSNAV but also see above that there are still issues even with their setup. Are there any better alternatives or is RSNAV the best we have (with bugs).

Thanks!


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[audigsr]

I always hear/read about RSNAV but also see above that there are still issues even with their setup. Are there any better alternatives or is RSNAV the best we have (with bugs).

Thanks!


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Honestly RSNAV is the best out there. There are constant updates to fix the bugs people are having. Just have to take the time to look for the updates. Not having any issues with the S4 model on B&O.

[coop3422]

I'd love to get RSNAV, but I could think of so many other ways to spend $1k. The AliExpress route would be fine if it works with minimal bugs, even if it's "frozen in time" because my MMI is frozen in a much older time as is lol. My concern is more about "will it work" or are there any significant software bugs that'll make it difficult to daily.

Has anyone here gone the cheaper AliExpress route?

[dropshadow]

I'd love to get RSNAV, but I could think of so many other ways to spend $1k. The AliExpress route would be fine if it works with minimal bugs, even if it's "frozen in time" because my MMI is frozen in a much older time as is lol. My concern is more about "will it work" or are there any significant software bugs that'll make it difficult to daily.

Has anyone here gone the cheaper AliExpress route?

You get what you pay for. I've had 2 of the RSNav standalone units and one of the Android-based versions. Sure, there were bugs, but having a near-direct line to the main developer and an active user base for support is worth it, in my opinion. It's not uncommon for people with non-RSNav units to pop into the RSNav Facebook group asking for help with their units because the manufacturer has zero support.

You may get an AliExpress unit working perfectly, but when you do inevitably run into issues or want any sort of firmware upgrade to keep it working, you might not have many options.

[tdietro]

Question for anyone with a 12.3" unit: Will it do split screen? Meaning, show two installed Android apps side-by-side.

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[reardoma]

Question for anyone with a 12.3" unit: Will it do split screen? Meaning, show two installed Android apps side-by-side.

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Yes mine is the smaller and does it

[lhlan]

You get what you pay for. I've had 2 of the RSNav standalone units and one of the Android-based versions. Sure, there were bugs, but having a near-direct line to the main developer and an active user base for support is worth it, in my opinion. It's not uncommon for people with non-RSNav units to pop into the RSNav Facebook group asking for help with their units because the manufacturer has zero support.

You may get an AliExpress unit working perfectly, but when you do inevitably run into issues or want any sort of firmware upgrade to keep it working, you might not have many options.

Excellent response!

Anyway I have a question with RSNAV standalone unit, that seems to bug me so much:

1. Prelude: I installed it on my MMI 3G .... with GPS navigation, and the Audi original navigation works perfectly.
2. Carplay / Android Auto MAPS works perfectly as an interface with phone, providing that I allow phone's MAPS to have GPS access. As soon as I disallow GPS access on phone, or disable Location services alltogher, the unit will complain.
3. I even tried to use HERE as an alternative navigation tool and there it is the most revealing message: please open the HERE App on phone.

Strange, my conclusion is: the stand alone unit doesn't use the car's GPS antenna or signal, it still relies on your phone's GPS.

Is that right? if yes then it is such a waste of the car's GPS, which should be more abundant, better positioned, and would not waste phone's power.

[dropshadow]

Excellent response!

Anyway I have a question with RSNAV standalone unit, that seems to bug me so much:

1. Prelude: I installed it on my MMI 3G .... with GPS navigation, and the Audi original navigation works perfectly.
2. Carplay / Android Auto MAPS works perfectly as an interface with phone, providing that I allow phone's MAPS to have GPS access. As soon as I disallow GPS access on phone, or disable Location services alltogher, the unit will complain.
3. I even tried to use HERE as an alternative navigation tool and there it is the most revealing message: please open the HERE App on phone.

Strange, my conclusion is: the stand alone unit doesn't use the car's GPS antenna or signal, it still relies on your phone's GPS.

Is that right? if yes then it is such a waste of the car's GPS, which should be more abundant, better positioned, and would not waste phone's power.

Think of CarPlay as a secondary display for your phone. Whether it's an OEM CarPlay integration, an aftermarket head unit or an add-on box like the RSNav standalone unit, CarPlay (and Android Auto) are 100% driven by your phone. Your car's screen is nothing more than a display for the CarPlay video stream coming from your phone. With GPS disabled on your phone, you are cutting off all location services, which is why you lose CarPlay functionality.

[lhlan]

Think of CarPlay as a secondary display for your phone. Whether it's an OEM CarPlay integration, an aftermarket head unit or an add-on box like the RSNav standalone unit, CarPlay (and Android Auto) are 100% driven by your phone. Your car's screen is nothing more than a display for the CarPlay video stream coming from your phone. With GPS disabled on your phone, you are cutting off all location services, which is why you lose CarPlay functionality.

Thanks for the clear answer. I still reckon it is such a waste for a different source of GPS signals!

But we can live with that!

[SHCKR]

Just did a DIY

https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink/top...ink_source=app

RSNAV S3 Installation Guide for B9

[eragot]

2014 Q5 2.0
MMI 3G high

I have an S4 installed in October. Occasionally it will cut out and I'll still have MMI but not the Android overlay and functionality. After some rest with the car off, it will work fine. Then randomly go off again. Annoying, but not the biggest deal.

I updated to the April updates MCU then Software and things worked just fine on Sunday and driving to work on Monday.
Monday evening, I start things up and right after startup the screen goes black. There are two red flashing buttons (the right two silver buttons around the dial).

I pulled codes and got the following (plus a stuck button - cleared and these are the only ones that came back). Checked fuses - they are fine.
I also checked to make sure all the connections are tight.

Ideas?
Thanks,


5F Multimedia

System description: H-BNT-NA
Software number: 8R1035746E
Software version: 0756
Hardware number: 8R1035746D
Hardware version: H41
Serial number: 204K.0D7625812
Long coding: 160200060005A1EF51028B5E00000403140000000000000000

Subsystems:
System description: NAR 2014
Software number: 8R0060884BL
Software version: 0902

System description: CD-Database
Software number: 8R0060961F
Software version: 5571

Trouble codes:
00658 - Operating unit No signal/communication
static
Priority: 5
Frequency counter: 1
Driving cycle: 212
Mileage: 93626 km
Date: 2023-05-09 07:28:02
03389 - Data set implausible
static
Priority: 2
Frequency counter: 1
Driving cycle: 212
Mileage: 93625 km
Date: 2023-05-09 07:27:59
02259 - Front information display control head No signal/communication
static
Priority: 5
Frequency counter: 1
Driving cycle: 212
Mileage: 93626 km
Date: 2023-05-09 07:28:02

Just did a DIY

https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink/top...ink_source=app

RSNAV S3 Installation Guide for B9

[DarkoNova]

How did you update? I have an S4 that I just installed and I'm trying to update the software but the rsnav just doesn't see the USB drive or something...

[Redblueblur]

Does anyone know if the new IE Powerlink mobile app works with the RSNav screen???

[mmamobile]

Does anyone know if the new IE Powerlink mobile app works with the RSNav screen???

You made me go look - but my answer is no, I’m not seeing the IE app available via CarPlay.

[S4lty1]

Hey, running into some issues with my recent rsnav install on my 2013 s4 with concert radio and dsg. The back up camera stays black, my concert radio seems to just be a brick now. Doesn't even light up and no volume except waze volume and incoming text messages chime works sometimes? I tried plugging in an ami to aux as well and checked all mmi fuses including the back of the radio. Can anyone help? Rsnav hasn't gotten back to me.

[skegeeman]

Hello,

I have two RSNAV units, and S3 in my wife's Q5 and an S4 in my 2013 A5. They both work great. The problem that I have having is that I bought it with the aftermarket camera but I have a manual transmission. I watched the video that is linked on the RSNAV page and read the instructions on the site. I am using a 12V relay and I am sure I have it wired correctly, but the camera is working but not working.

When it works I never turns off even if I am not in reverse gear. It stays on until I turn the car off. I cannot get to the RSNAV main screen when it is on. Most time though it does not work and the RSNAV functions normally.

The relay is wired as such:

pin 85 - ground
pin 86 - back light
pin 30 - power

The camera is wired separately to power (direct to battery) and ground.

Has anyone had similar issues?

[skegeeman]

I have two RSNAV units that I bought the rear camera addon. Both cameras work, but the trunk open switches don't work in either. The click, but never open the hatch. I plugged factory harness in to the same spot on the RSNAV handle but they don't work. The factory handles worked fine.

Anyone have this problem?

- - - Updated - - -

I have two RSNAV units that I bought the rear camera addon. Both cameras work, but the trunk open switches don't work in either. The click, but never open the hatch. I plugged factory harness in to the same spot on the RSNAV handle but they don't work. The factory handles worked fine.

Anyone have this problem?

[DrGrapeApe]

Don't run an independent power/ground for the camera, the relay powers the camera. Terminal 30 is fused +12v, 85 is ground, 86 is where you tap the reverse lamp and 87 is the power output to the camera.

e: Oh, your car came with the reverse cam? In that case you wire 87 to 360_DET on the RSNAV harnesss.

[skegeeman]

Don't run an independent power/ground for the camera, the relay powers the camera. Terminal 30 is fused +12v, 85 is ground, 86 is where you tap the reverse lamp and 87 is the power output to the camera.

e: Oh, your car came with the reverse cam? In that case you wire 87 to 360_DET on the RSNAV harnesss.

Thank you very much!