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    "best" car wash soap on black car?

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    I am using an older Meguiars product and it is a pain on my black S5. When drying with a microfiber cloth I am noticing that the towel is wrung out that the water becomes more and more soapy/sticky (even after good rince).

    Would something like Meguiars G7164 Gold Class Car Wash Shampoo & Conditioner be better?

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    Stick with Adams or nanolenx. Has the car ben corrected lately usally when the soap doesn't come off like you are saying it needs a good clay or a decontamination on the paint.

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    Meg's Gold Class is great stuff. Works very well. CarPro Reset is another. The great thing there is Reset won't alter the properties of a coating or your Sealant and is very concentrated. 1oz will fill a 5 gal bucket with more than enough soap/suds.

    I like drying with leaf blower or such first. Epsecially good at clearing grills, wheels and seams of any water. Drying towel wise, I highly recommend using a Rinseless product like Wolfgang Uber Rinseless mixed up 1/2oz to 1 Gal. distilled water. Soak a nice 16x16 drying towel in it, then wring it out all the way until it's just damp. Begin drying, when needed, wring out and repeat with the rinseless / wringing. This will ensure you have a super slick finish with not spots like this
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    Quote Originally Posted by CLEANA3 View Post
    Stick with Adams or nanolenx. Has the car ben corrected lately usally when the soap doesn't come off like you are saying it needs a good clay or a decontamination on the paint.
    The car has been detailed recently with paint correction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pdqgp View Post
    Meg's Gold Class is great stuff. Works very well. CarPro Reset is another. The great thing there is Reset won't alter the properties of a coating or your Sealant and is very concentrated. 1oz will fill a 5 gal bucket with more than enough soap/suds.

    I like drying with leaf blower or such first. Epsecially good at clearing grills, wheels and seams of any water. Drying towel wise, I highly recommend using a Rinseless product like Wolfgang Uber Rinseless mixed up 1/2oz to 1 Gal. distilled water. Soak a nice 16x16 drying towel in it, then wring it out all the way until it's just damp. Begin drying, when needed, wring out and repeat with the rinseless / wringing. This will ensure you have a super slick finish with not spots like this

    So, using a rinseless product like Wolfgang Uber Rinseless as the car wash soap or apply it after car wash as a second step?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meadowdale View Post
    The car has been detailed recently with paint correction.
    Quote Originally Posted by Meadowdale View Post
    So, using a rinseless product like Wolfgang Uber Rinseless as the car wash soap or apply it after car wash as a second step?
    If you're going to still use a traditional soap like Meg's Gold Class with hose and bucket wash, use that first, fully rinse the car and then complete the above noted method for drying seperately. I can cover how to use a Rinseless Solution in place of a traditional bucket wash in another thread if you're interested. I do rinseless a lot. Mostly in the winter though. I'll PM you with my cell if you want to just talk through stuff. Happy to help.
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    I see. If I don't want to mix does something like "chemical guys after wash" or "AMMO Hydrate
    Paint Moisturizer" or so? Can I spray it on the microfiber tower to dry?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meadowdale View Post
    The car has been detailed recently with paint correction.
    Quote Originally Posted by Meadowdale View Post
    I see. If I don't want to mix does something like "chemical guys after wash" or "AMMO Hydrate
    Paint Moisturizer" or so? Can I spray it on the microfiber tower to dry?
    I'm not familiar first-hand with those particular products. One could mist over top the vehicle while still wet and dry from there but then it's a totally different technique. I like the method I use and described because it is very effective at preventing any marring and eliminates spots.
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    Go pick yourself up a blower I know it has nothing to do with the soap you use but it will save your paint from being scratched. I know they say microfiber won't scratch but in tune you ell have the fine scratched from drying especially on black.

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    Chemical guys has a few "for black or dark colors" products including a soap. The Amazon reviews are pretty high on the BLACKLIGHT soap.

    I recently used turtle wax jet back spray detailer and it help with some minor swirls.

    If your car's finish isn't up to your standards after a wash I don't think soap is the issue. It probably needs correction as previously mentioned.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pdqgp View Post
    I'm not familiar first-hand with those particular products. One could mist over top the vehicle while still wet and dry from there but then it's a totally different technique. I like the method I use and described because it is very effective at preventing any marring and eliminates spots.
    I am potentially misunderstanding your technique. But you helped me to discover drying a car with a "lubricant". I understand you are recommending mixing up Wolfgang Uber Rinseless and put the product into the drying towel. Those sprays are applied to the surface. Maybe wrongly so, I assumed that both techniques share a common concept of using some "lube" to dry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meadowdale View Post
    I assumed that both techniques share a common concept of using some "lube" to dry.
    Correct.
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    Just wanted to share my experiences so far.
    I used Chemical Guys Backlight Car Wash Soap which is day an night compared to the Meguiars I used. To be fair the Meguiars was old and might have degraded.

    I also used the 4oz (to try) "Chemical Guys After Wash Shine While You Dry Drying Agent With Hybrid Gloss Technology". This didn't work well. It was hard to spray on - didn't want to bond with the water. Unless I sprayed very close but then I had a liquid puddle on the car. Not sure if the small 4oz bottle spray simply didn't work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CLEANA3 View Post
    Stick with Adams or nanolenx. Has the car ben corrected lately usally when the soap doesn't come off like you are saying it needs a good clay or a decontamination on the paint.
    +1, & as the saying goes: “U get what U pay for”. Having a love affair w/cars AWA washing & waxing cars since I was old enough not to totally screw up the car’s paint, one thing has always been true, U get what U pay for. Products R generally not more expensive just for added profit, it is in large part d/t R&D spent on making it a noticeably better product than the “average” product available @most larger retail & big box stores. I am south of U by ~ 6 hrs so I don’t C the same amount of snow/bitter cold but I also have a Panther Black car so I completely understand your desire to keep it clean. Stick w/the 2 products previously mentioned & get a leaf blower as @pdqgp suggested.If nothing is touching or being drug over the paint, it can’t be scratched. This assumes U don’t drop or drag the blower “hose” over or around a painted area of the car, which is Y I prefer the “backpack” style blower. Look @the videos by Detailers Domain, thorough,informative & spot on,+ excellent site sponsor, teir 1 vendor, customer service. NOT affiliated in any way but exceptional vendor in every way. If U choose to go another route, I would suggest a trip to YouTube & look up some car detailing videos for ideas & products U may not have been aware of. PM if U want more info, good luck to U from the Southern tip of Illinois.

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    Reporting back on the "drying agent"
    I bought "Chemical Guys CWS_801_16 After Wash Shine While You Dry Drying Agent With Hybrid Gloss Technology". I got the 4oz bottle to try out.
    Doesn't work well. Biggest issue is that the spray is so fine that the product does make it to the surface, or I go that close that I have a puddle. I woudl have expected to spray it on and the water to pearl away like at DIY car wash.
    When all mixed up with water and towel it works ok but not great. After a while the drying towel is soaked with the solution starting to produce streaks, but buff out/dry quickly.

    Wonder if the issue is the the spray in the small 4oz bottle - wonder if anybody at CG actually tried it....? Or try another product?

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    I would go with the Adams Polishes Car Shampoo. Thats my favorite to use.

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    Stay away from CG stuff they are more of a company that likes there Youtube count verse making a real product. I mean they have over 8 shampoos and maybe 10 different waxes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pdqgp View Post
    Meg's Gold Class is great stuff. Works very well. CarPro Reset is another. The great thing there is Reset won't alter the properties of a coating or your Sealant and is very concentrated. 1oz will fill a 5 gal bucket with more than enough soap/suds.

    I like drying with leaf blower or such first. Epsecially good at clearing grills, wheels and seams of any water. Drying towel wise, I highly recommend using a Rinseless product like Wolfgang Uber Rinseless mixed up 1/2oz to 1 Gal. distilled water. Soak a nice 16x16 drying towel in it, then wring it out all the way until it's just damp. Begin drying, when needed, wring out and repeat with the rinseless / wringing. This will ensure you have a super slick finish with not spots like this
    Sticking to this technique. Works amazingly well, easy to do and cheap.

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