RS7 Sport Exhaust Scam

[A3 Turbo]

So according to the part numbers, the RS7 "Sport Exhaust" is nothing more than black tips instead of chrome. Every other part is identical. Confirmed via both ETKA and dealer parts websites.

I find it pretty funny considering all those threads where people say the RS7 "with sport exhaust sounds sooo good in Dynamic" blah blah blah. Yeah it sounds just as good as the standard exhaust in Dynamic since the exhausts are identical except for the color of the tips lol.

The saddest part is full retail price for the two tips is only $600. Wasn't the sport exhaust something like a $1000 option? What a scam!

https://www.audionlineparts.com/auto...omponents-scat

[MBrock]

No what's sadder is that I ordered the sport exhaust and replaced the black tips with the silver ones.

[pez81]

No what's sadder is that I ordered the sport exhaust and replaced the black tips with the silver ones.

Double face palm but fair play for admitting it

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[pez81]

Is it really the same part just painted tips? That's shocking if it is. I heard the rs3 without sports exhaust and that definitely sounds different. It's weak without it. Same goes for the standard audio system on the s6. It's the Bose system which they charge £1000 for. But in my demo car I checked the amp and speakera first. Audi are scammers for sure. It's like all the vcds mods you can do which they charge ridiculous amounts for.

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[A3 Turbo]

I posted the link. Check the part numbers and see if maybe I missed something? Only thing different I see is the black vs chrome tips. All the other exhaust components are the same across the board. Same on ETKA.

The louder sounds people swear by is likely the placebo effect.

Is it really the same part just painted tips? That's shocking if it is. I heard the rs3 without sports exhaust and that definitely sounds different. It's weak without it. Same goes for the standard audio system on the s6. It's the Bose system which they charge £1000 for. But in my demo car I checked the amp and speakera first. Audi are scammers for sure. It's like all the vcds mods you can do which they charge ridiculous amounts for.

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[pez81]

I posted the link. Check the part numbers and see if maybe I missed something? Only thing different I see is the black vs chrome tips. All the other exhaust components are the same across the board. Same on ETKA.

The louder sounds people swear by is likely the placebo effect.

Great find thanks for sharing. It's very naughty if this is correct. How does black tail pipes make it a sport?

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[sciblades]

I posted the link. Check the part numbers and see if maybe I missed something? Only thing different I see is the black vs chrome tips. All the other exhaust components are the same across the board. Same on ETKA.

The louder sounds people swear by is likely the placebo effect.

The s6 is a very different exhaust for sure I have seen two that have swapped out for an amazing sound.

I am pretty sure the design of the sports exhaust is different granted a picture will answer this very easily I have pictures of what my sports exhaust looked like.

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[A3 Turbo]

Yep, the S6 exhaust is different than the RS7 exhaust but only the rear resonator and mufflers.

Do you have any stock RS7 exhausts kicking around?

The s6 is a very different exhaust for sure I have seen two that have swapped out for an amazing sound.

I am pretty sure the design of the sports exhaust is different granted a picture will answer this very easily I have pictures of what my sports exhaust looked like.

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[OlyS6]

Is it really the same part just painted tips? That's shocking if it is. I heard the rs3 without sports exhaust and that definitely sounds different. It's weak without it. Same goes for the standard audio system on the s6. It's the Bose system which they charge £1000 for. But in my demo car I checked the amp and speakera first. Audi are scammers for sure. It's like all the vcds mods you can do which they charge ridiculous amounts for.

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While it's true that the base audio system for the S6 is made by Bose, it is a lower end system than the 'Bose upgrade'. The speakers are all lower end Bose speakers, and there is no ANC on the base system. I purposely got a car with the base system, as with a little work, you can create a sound system every bit as good (if not better) than the B&O for less than what that option costs.


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[A3 Turbo]

I didn't even know there was a "Bose upgrade." I thought it was just the standard Bose or ridiculous B&O option? Is this something that was just recently made available on the later model years? Don't remember a Bose upgrade option on the 2013 models.

If B&O were standard and the Bose were the $7K option, I wonder how many people would check the box for the Bose? Probably just as many if not more since Bose, to at least me anyway, is a much more well known and famous brand name than B&O.

[MadMaxD]

I'll believe it when I see it. Post the proof.

[OlyS6]

The base standard sound system (not an optional add-on)for at least the last few model years of the A6/S6 has been made by Bose, just not well advertised. It's also just meh.. in quality. The Bose option gives you slightly nicer speakers, very similar amplifier, and active noise cancellation microphones in the headliner at a cost of about $1k. The B&O system is far better sound quality (better amplifier with better executed digital signal processing), but also not a very good subwoofer at a cost of I think $6k for that option package. Many folks who get that option are very happy with it and simply upgrade the subwoofer if they want more bass. In pursuit of a new hobby, I went for the standard sound system and ripped it all out except for the head unit and installed all new speakers (Focal) subwoofer, (JL10w3), digital signal processor (audio control DM 8-10), and 2 HD JL amplifiers to drive it all. The sound overall is extraordinary, and the parts all told were about 4K, and did the labor including tuning myself. The only thing I'm not happy with is that for MY16 and beyond, Audi went with a different type of optical signal than prior years to plug into the factory amp, so for now you still have to have the factory amp as part of the system


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[Ze_Nardo6]

100% there is a difference in the S6 between regular and sport exhaust

I know OP is referring to RS7, so no comment there

[Yeoman]

An RS car doesn't come with a sport exhaust by default? wow

[A3 Turbo]

Are you referring to the sport exhaust being the same except for the black tips? If so, I posted the proof above. Click the link and check the part numbers for each exhaust component for the 2015 RS7. Every component has the same part number meaning the sport and non-sport share the same parts, except for the tips. The tips show two different part numbers, one for the sport (black) and one for the chrome (standard).

Don't know how Audi gets away with this crap. You'd think the lawyers would have a field day with class action lawsuits for something like that.

I'll believe it when I see it. Post the proof.

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Excellent point. Two scams for the price of one.

An RS car doesn't come with a sport exhaust by default? wow

[Cris_OO7]

I swapped out my S6 exhaust for a RS7 sport exhaust besides the cosmetic difference of it being black it was also much lighter and sounds way better than my original...


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[RAF_S7]

Ok, lm going to call it.

This is bullsh1t.

If you seriously think Audi are ripping people off over an exhaust, then your buying the wrong car make.

If you look at Ekta - which the OP "supposedly" did - it clearly shows two different part numbers, for a standard versus sports.

[pez81]

Ok, lm going to call it.

This is bullsh1t.

If you seriously think Audi are ripping people off over an exhaust, then your buying the wrong car make.

If you look at Ekta - which the OP "supposedly" did - it clearly shows two different part numbers, for a standard versus sports.

Shame we don't get the option in blighty

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[A3 Turbo]

For the S6 or RS7?

Ok, lm going to call it.

This is bullsh1t.

If you seriously think Audi are ripping people off over an exhaust, then your buying the wrong car make.

If you look at Ekta - which the OP "supposedly" did - it clearly shows two different part numbers, for a standard versus sports.

[A3 Turbo]

No doubt. The RS7 exhaust is different than the S6 exhaust. The mid "suitcase" and rear mufflers are different.

The bone of contention here is the standard RS7 exhaust vs RS7 "Sport" exhaust, not the S6.

I swapped out my S6 exhaust for a RS7 sport exhaust besides the cosmetic difference of it being black it was also much lighter and sounds way better than my original...


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[pez81]

Did we ever get confirmation on that claimed 10s run in a stage 2 s6 this week?

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[A3 Turbo]

I haven't seen shit.

Did we ever get confirmation on that claimed 10s run in a stage 2 s6 this week?

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[pez81]

I haven't seen shit.

I actually thought of you vol (what's your real name can't keep calling you vol) I thought maybe you had broken 10s.

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[A3 Turbo]

My car actually has RS6 turbos now.

My best run on the stock turbos was 11.0 in the Florida heat. Tune only, no other engine mods. Although I did go slightly slower after adding the RS7 airbox and inlets lol.

I actually thought of you vol (what's your real name can't keep calling you vol) I thought maybe you had broken 10s.

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[pez81]

My car actually has RS6 turbos now.

My best run on the stock turbos was 11.0 in the Florida heat. Tune only, no other engine mods. Although I did go slightly slower after adding the RS7 airbox and inlets lol.

Good to have you back. So have you run it with the turbos? I wouldn't buy an intake for this platform again I don't think it's worth it.

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[Ze_Nardo6]

My car actually has RS6 turbos now.

My best run on the stock turbos was 11.0 in the Florida heat. Tune only, no other engine mods. Although I did go slightly slower after adding the RS7 airbox and inlets lol.

You also ran drag wheels and drag radials...still impressive but worth mentioning since you're cutting 1.5x 60'

[A3 Turbo]

It sure was but only on the rear. I don't think anyone will be able to run consistent 1.5's on the DSG trans without drag radials. I could be wrong but I just don't see it happening. The launch control just shocks the driveline way too much and overpowers street tires. It's not a smooth transfer of power to the ground like you get with a torque converter automatic such as the ZF in the RS7.

You also ran drag wheels and drag radials...still impressive but worth mentioning since you're cutting 1.5x 60'

[A6sport]

Great find thanks for sharing. It's very naughty if this is correct. How does black tail pipes make it a sport?

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The boys in Ingolstadt/ quattro GmBh have been doing this for a while. Here is my 2002 TT with a Euro market only sport exhaust available only on the TT quattro sport (black finishers) read the fine print I guess. However the Sport exhaust on my C7 really is a sport exhaust?

[Ze_Nardo6]

It sure was but only on the rear. I don't think anyone will be able to run consistent 1.5's on the DSG trans without drag radials. I could be wrong but I just don't see it happening. The launch control just shocks the driveline way too much and overpowers street tires. It's not a smooth transfer of power to the ground like you get with a torque converter automatic such as the ZF in the RS7.

Agree 100%.

1.5s are not consistently possible on street tires for the DSGs. But are you implying that you think it's easier on the trans to run DRs rather than street tires?

[A3 Turbo]

For sure. Smoother power transfer and less driveline shock with drag radials. Wheel hop and driveline shock is what's going to kill driveline components, especially half shafts and rear ends.

I have maybe 50 LC enabled passes on my S6. 49 of them were at 5K and one of them was at 3700. The 3700 RPM launch one is the one that broke a rear axle. It's because that's near peak torque. I doubt anything will break at 5K launching on soft compound drag radials, at least not at these power levels.

Agree 100%.

1.5s are not consistently possible on street tires for the DSGs. But are you implying that you think it's easier on the trans to run DRs rather than street tires?

[Ze_Nardo6]

For sure. Smoother power transfer and less driveline shock with drag radials. Wheel hop and driveline shock is what's going to kill driveline components, especially half shafts and rear ends.

I have maybe 50 LC enabled passes on my S6. 49 of them were at 5K and one of them was at 3700. The 3700 RPM launch one is the one that broke a rear axle. It's because that's near peak torque. I doubt anything will break at 5K launching on soft compound drag radials, at least not at these power levels.

Interesting info. What kind of DRs are you running on the rears?

[A3 Turbo]

Your namesake.

Interesting info. What kind of DRs are you running on the rears?

[Ze_Nardo6]

Your namesake.

I see what you did there..

[Yeoman]

The bone of contention here is the standard RS7 exhaust vs RS7 "Sport" exhaust, not the S6.

FWIW, there is no "sport" exhaust option when you try to build an RS7 at audi.com

[A3 Turbo]

You're right. It seems 2017 was the last year for the Sport Exhaust scam option. No more for 2018. Wonder if they got caught somehow?

FWIW, there is no "sport" exhaust option when you try to build an RS7 at audi.com

[RAF_S7]

For the S6 or RS7?

The RS7.

There are two exhaust options, both with different part numbers.

Option 0P0 and option 0P6

[RAF_S7]

You're right. It seems 2017 was the last year for the Sport Exhaust scam option. No more for 2018. Wonder if they got caught somehow?

There is still an option for a sports exhaust on the RS7 Performance.

[A3 Turbo]

Correct and that difference in the part numbers is for the black vs chrome tips.

At least that's how it is in the US of A. Might be different in the UK where you're from.

The RS7.

There are two exhaust options, both with different part numbers.

Option 0P0 and option 0P6

[A3 Turbo]

Only the $9,350 titanium exhaust option, not the old scam $1000 "sport exhaust" option.

Again, this is specific to the US, not UK.

There is still an option for a sports exhaust on the RS7 Performance.

[limeypride]

Only the $9,350 titanium exhaust option, not the old scam $1000 "sport exhaust" option.

Again, this is specific to the US, not UK.

Yeah, 'cause you've had all three variants and can hence speak to each of them individually... but that's useless information, anyway, because presumably my Akrapovic exhaust is also broken and provides no value.