Almost ready to buy wheels! 295/25 or 275/30?

[flyfishing]

I'm almost ready to pull the trigger on 21x10.5 et32 or et35 depending on the wheel I get.

After reading these forums, I was set on PSS 295/25 b/c of lower profile. I called TAG and they recommend that I go 275/30.

I lower my car via vagcom ~15 mm and my main goal is to keep it at this level or lower to 17 mm to keep the wheel gap minimum. I prefer this over exact flush of wheel/tire to fender and larger wheel gap.

As such, should I go with PSS 295/25 or go with 275/30?

[CanuckRS]

I'm almost ready to pull the trigger on 21x10.5 et32 or et35 depending on the wheel I get.

After reading these forums, I was set on PSS 295/25 b/c of lower profile. I called TAG and they recommend that I go 275/30.

I lower my car via vagcom ~15 mm and my main goal is to keep it at this level or lower to 17 mm to keep the wheel gap minimum. I prefer this over exact flush of wheel/tire to fender and larger wheel gap.

As such, should I go with PSS 295/25 or go with 275/30?

fyi, 17mm isn't that much, you'll still have wheel gap. also, 295/25 is a smaller diameter wheel compared to stock size so you can lower quite a bit more with links as well if you want less gap.
also, all the tuners will tell you to stick with stock rubber sizing to avoid drama on their end imo, but you can def do 295/25. a few of us have and no issues afaik.

[SilvaDolla]

Did they give a reason for why they recommended that? That is the stock tire size but it's for a 9 inch wheel.


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[dee5330]

Here's 285/30/21s. Flush with the rims and fills the gap fairly well.






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[sd761]

Here's 285/30/21s. Flush with the rims and fills the gap fairly well.






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Love your wheels🤣 I'm running sane set up but using 275/30/21



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[Persuader]

Love your wheels🤣 I'm running sane set up but using 275/30/21



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Gorgeous. Are they Bathurst 21x10.5?

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[sd761]

Gorgeous. Are they Bathurst 21x10.5?

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Thanks!
Yes! Et 32. Flush with bumper no need for spacers. Great wheel! Compliments the 7 I think.


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[Persuader]

Am considering these vs Vossen VS1. Thinking the Bathurst looks better and is better price.

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[flyfishing]

Did they give a reason for why they recommended that? That is the stock tire size but it's for a 9 inch wheel.


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Their explanation was that they are experts at this and said they have placed tires and wheels on numerous s7s. When I said he car forums recommend otherwise they said that what is said here is not recommended.


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[sd761]

Am considering these vs Vossen VS1. Thinking the Bathurst looks better and is better price.

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For price and look and quality you can not go wrong. I think they look great in person. Nice deep concave look.


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[flyfishing]

Could you guys post a pic of your wheels and car from the direct side?

[dee5330]

Could you guys post a pic of your wheels and car from the direct side?

Does that work for you?



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[limeypride]

Love your wheels�� I'm running sane set up but using 275/30/21

This picture has just made my day! I've been worried the gun-metal TSW Bathurst wheels would be too much of a black-on-black gangsta' look but quite the contrary--this looks absolutely stunning. YAY!

[Djpeaksd]

Does that work for you?



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Do you not rub with 285? Can't tell if your car is lowered?

[dee5330]

Do you not rub with 285? Can't tell if your car is lowered?

Just lowered with Eibachs. Not sure if it'll settle any more, but no rubbing as of yet.


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[sd761]

This picture has just made my day! I've been worried the gun-metal TSW Bathurst wheels would be too much of a black-on-black gangsta' look but quite the contrary--this looks absolutely stunning. YAY!

quite the opposite. I think it compliments the black nicely. Looks great in person!


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[flyfishing]

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Does that work for you?

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Thanks. Could you post one further back where I see the whole side and car/wheels? Much appreciated.

[sd761]

Thanks. Could you post one further back where I see the whole side and car/wheels? Much appreciated.

Here a couple


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[Sir-Delta]

Vossen VSF1, 275/30R21


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[Gonzoe11]

Dam that Vossen looks so good on the 7


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[ericw.]

you ever have a 25mm sidewall? it's all personal preference but imo this car is too big for such a small sidewall. you're going to feel every bump in the road and be more likely to bend wheels on pot holes.

[Persuader]

you ever have a 25mm sidewall? it's all personal preference but imo this car is too big for such a small sidewall. you're going to feel every bump in the road and be more likely to bend wheels on pot holes.

The sidewall is 82.5mm. (275x30%). Most A7's in the UK have this tyre size in the UK from new and our roads aren't brilliant. It's fine.

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[ericw.]

The sidewall is 82.5mm. (275x30%). Most A7's in the UK have this tyre size in the UK from new and our roads aren't brilliant. It's fine.

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yeah 30 sidewall is about as small as i'd want to go. I've ran 25 in the past on other cars and it wasn't an issue in most cases but ride quality did suffer and I ended up with a couple bent wheels over the course of a year.

[SlickMachine]

Maybe you guys could help me make a decision on tires. I ordered Avant Garde M510 21x10.5 et27 for stock ride height A7. I'm going with PSS. choices are 1) 295/25/21 and is same diameter as stock overall and will leave unwanted wheel gap- I'd like to avoid lowering if possible, or 2) 285/30/21 and take a chance with rubbing since no one can tell me if that size works or not without rubbing on stock height. I definitely like the idea of more sidewall and .8" more of wheel gap fill.


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[limeypride]

Maybe you guys could help me make a decision on tires. I ordered Avant Garde M510 21x10.5 et27 for stock ride height A7. I'm going with PSS. choices are 1) 295/25/21 and is same diameter as stock overall and will leave unwanted wheel gap- I'd like to avoid lowering if possible, or 2) 285/30/21 and take a chance with rubbing since no one can tell me if that size works or not without rubbing on stock height. I definitely like the idea of more sidewall and .8" more of wheel gap fill.


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I can only tell you that the MPSS 295/25/21s do still rub slightly on my TSW Bathurst wheels but only when at totally-full lock... and even then, it's slight. I'm not really sure how to apply that result to your question since both your wheels and arches are or might be slightly different.

[SlickMachine]

I can only tell you that the MPSS 295/25/21s do still rub slightly on my TSW Bathurst wheels but only when at totally-full lock... and even then, it's slight. I'm not really sure how to apply that result to your question since both your wheels and arches are or might be slightly different.

Offset?

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[madyspop]

Maybe you guys could help me make a decision on tires. I ordered Avant Garde M510 21x10.5 et27 for stock ride height A7. I'm going with PSS. choices are 1) 295/25/21 and is same diameter as stock overall and will leave unwanted wheel gap- I'd like to avoid lowering if possible, or 2) 285/30/21 and take a chance with rubbing since no one can tell me if that size works or not without rubbing on stock height. I definitely like the idea of more sidewall and .8" more of wheel gap fill.


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If you don't lower the car it won't matter what size tire you go with. You'll never get the car to look right at stock height running a 21" wheel.

[IowaRS7]

Maybe you guys could help me make a decision on tires. I ordered Avant Garde M510 21x10.5 et27 for stock ride height A7. I'm going with PSS. choices are 1) 295/25/21 and is same diameter as stock overall and will leave unwanted wheel gap- I'd like to avoid lowering if possible, or 2) 285/30/21 and take a chance with rubbing since no one can tell me if that size works or not without rubbing on stock height. I definitely like the idea of more sidewall and .8" more of wheel gap fill.


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I run the 285/03/21 MPSS on my 21x10.5 wheels with a ET29 offset and lowered with the CETE module. The 285 works well on this size wheel. I recommend removing the front fender screws and plastic clip that is connected to the wheel well liner. It allows for a fair amount of additional clearance as that is what most people end up rubbing on. You can see pictures in my build thread. See post 251 for a picture of the screw and clip I am referring to.

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...d-Thread/page7

[SlickMachine]

I run the 285/03/21 MPSS on my 21x10.5 wheels with a ET29 offset and lowered with the CETE module. The 285 works well on this size wheel. I recommend removing the front fender screws and plastic clip that is connected to the wheel well liner. It allows for a fair amount of additional clearance as that is what most people end up rubbing on. You can see pictures in my build thread. See post 251 for a picture of the screw and clip I am referring to.

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...d-Thread/page7

That's helpful. Are RS7 wheel wells bigger than A7 wheel wells though?

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[limeypride]

If you don't lower the car it won't matter what size tire you go with. You'll never get the car to look right at stock height running a 21" wheel.

Really? I beg to differ... at least for an RS7 (perhaps the ride height and/or wheel arches differ on A7s?):

[SlickMachine]

If you don't lower the car it won't matter what size tire you go with. You'll never get the car to look right at stock height running a 21" wheel.

Not relevant to question is it..

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[SlickMachine]

Really? I beg to differ... at least for an RS7 (perhaps the ride height and/or wheel arches differ on A7s?):

That is perfect. What is your offset?

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[limeypride]

That is perfect. What is your offset?

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32 if memory serves.

[madyspop]

Really? I beg to differ... at least for an RS7 (perhaps the ride height and/or wheel arches differ on A7s?):

That's entirely to high but to each their own, amazing car none the less.


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[madyspop]

Not relevant to question is it..

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It's completely relevant to his question. A 30 series 21" tire on a stock ride car will still have significant wheel gap. A 25 profile will be even worse, the car needs to come down a bit.


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[limeypride]

It's completely relevant to his question. A 30 series 21" tire on a stock ride car will still have significant wheel gap. A 25 profile will be even worse, the car needs to come down a bit.


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So the stock Performance model from the factory is wrong then. I'll let Audi know.

If I had air suspension, I might well lower it slightly but with the DRC, that's too much metal being changed for my liking. The car doesn't need to come down since that's an aesthetics-only thing and hence subjective (sure, its center of gravity will come down a bit but the car's not known for its handling prowess in the first place). And case in point: it looks great to me... and apparently to the adoring folks that stop me at a traffic light to say the same on an unbelievably regular basis. As you say, to each their own...

[madyspop]

So the stock Performance model from the factory is wrong then. I'll let Audi know.

If I had air suspension, I might well lower it slightly but with the DRC, that's too much metal being changed for my liking. The car doesn't need to come down since that's an aesthetics-only thing and hence subjective (sure, its center of gravity will come down a bit but the car's not known for its handling prowess in the first place). And case in point: it looks great to me... and apparently to the adoring folks that stop me at a traffic light to say the same on an unbelievably regular basis. As you say, to each their own...

Calm down no one said it isn't correct as is but it certainly can look better. Also he's talking about swapping to a different tire which won't be as tall.

It'll also handle a bit better. Definitely not known for handling prowess, the Eurocode suspension bits with a lower center of gravity and a better set of rubber nets a significant improvement. I'll take my S6 with its current setup against any other large sedan and blow them away on a road course.

Here's a bit of proof in the pudding in relation to it looking better when lowered. The RS7 is on a 21" wheel and 295/25/21 tire. The S7 is 21" on a 275/30/21


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[limeypride]

Calm down

// Whoa , that's a tad presumptuous on your part--nothing you've said (except "calm down") stirred a single emotion--this is merely a difference of opinion... I'll go with the benefit of the doubt and move on.

no one said it isn't correct

"A 30 series 21" tire on a stock ride car will still have significant wheel gap. A 25 profile will be even worse, the car needs to come down a bit."
... I'm not clear how else should that be interpreted outside of being a judgement of 'not correct'?

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It'll also handle a bit better. Definitely not known for handling prowess, the Eurocode suspension bits with a lower center of gravity and a better set of rubber nets a significant improvement.

Yup, completely agree here. That said, though, I doubt many folks try to track their RS7--it's wayyyyyyyyy too heavy and the steering is, well, numb at best.

I'll take my S6 with its current setup against any other large sedan and blow them away on a road course.

Oh! You don't consider that perhaps a blanket statement that can't possibly be proven. Meh, rhetorical...

Here's a bit of proof in the pudding in relation to it looking better when lowered. The RS7 is on a 21" wheel and 295/25/21 tire. The S7 is 21" on a 275/30/21.

I'd love to agree with you but there isn't a single picture there I like... they're too low. These cars are a balanced blend of animal & class--the class is thoroughly compromised when lowered like this. Again, though, that's subjective--not a fact.

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[madyspop]

// Whoa , that's a tad presumptuous on your part--nothing you've said (except "calm down") stirred a single emotion--this is merely a difference of opinion... I'll go with the benefit of the doubt and move on.


"A 30 series 21" tire on a stock ride car will still have significant wheel gap. A 25 profile will be even worse, the car needs to come down a bit."
... I'm not clear how else should that be interpreted outside of being a judgement of 'not correct'?

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Yup, completely agree here. That said, though, I doubt many folks try to track their RS7--it's wayyyyyyyyy too heavy and the steering is, well, numb at best.

Oh! You don't consider that perhaps a blanket statement that can't possibly be proven. Meh, rhetorical...


I'd love to agree with you but there isn't a single picture there I like... they're too low. These cars are a balanced blend of animal & class--the class is thoroughly compromised when lowered like this. Again, though, that's subjective--not a fact.

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I don't take my car on the track at all thats what I use the Comp package M3 for. Did you see the European Car article a couple years ago when they did the super sedan challenge? Pretty sure there were some sports cars in it as well. The Eurocode S6 took top billing although I'm sure the RS7 would of beat it but wasn't included.

They don't drive around in that low a setting, that's the beauty of the CETE, change heights in seconds!