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    MSS Sports - Fully Adjustable spring kit review

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    Background -- I am not a car expert, and I've never tracked my car. So my review is basically from the PoV of a car enthusiast who likes to drive fast.

    After almost a year of looking at different options, I finally decided to pull the trigger on this kit. I'm a firm believer of "buy it nice, or buy it twice", and based on everything I've researched, I truly believe this is the best suspension mod for the Audi S3 with Magnetic Ride. And after driving it, it absolutely confirmed that belief.

    My existing suspension mods: SuperPro rear sway bar, SuperPro front & rear end links, 034 subframe mount inserts, 034 dogbone mount.

    With my existing setup, there was a noticable improvement in cornering over stock. Ride quality stayed mostly the same -- maybe a slight bit tighter than stock. I am very aware of the placebo effect, so I don't try to make myself sense something based on preconceived expectations.

    Right around this same time, I also noticed that steering feel was better in Auto, so I switched my individual mode steering setting to "Auto". The steering feel in dynamic felt vague. Auto felt tight and direct.

    MSS Sports Kit installation and initial driving impressions

    I was advised to keep my rear sway bar at the stiffest setting, and was told the front springs will settle more than the rears, so I decided on a conservative 15mm drop all around. I was not really looking for a drop, this was purely a performance mod to me. After installation, the tech drove the car out and I immediately thought the rear sat too low. I asked to have the rear raised in order to remove the reverse rake and have it level with the fronts. I'm not exactly sure how much the rear was raised, but I imagine it's almost to the top. I'll have to get under and check it.

    This was the final result:



    Driving home (in the pouring rain no less), I immediately noticed how the bumps were handled differently, particularly in dynamic mode. The best way I could describe it is like mogul skiing. Previously, it felt like a skiier who is unskilled, skipping over peaks, and inconsistently flexing his knees to absorb bumps. With MSS, it felt like an expert mogul skier who seemingly glides over the bumps. That's how the car felt. It was gliding over imperfections in the road.

    I flipped the drive select back to individual, which has steering and dampers set to Auto. It felt ok, but the car felt less planted. The overall ride was softer, but the bumps actually felt a little harsher for some reason. I felt the road less, and when going over bumps, I felt those. In dynamic, I felt the road more, and it felt like the suspension handled the bumps better (see mogul skiing reference).

    So my new individual setting is:

    Engine/Transmission - Dynamic
    Damper Control - Dynamic
    Steering - Auto
    Engine Sound - Comfort

    Comfort mode felt about the same. Granted, I rarely drive in comfort mode. Ditto for Auto mode.

    Cornering is a dream. I did not think it could get better with the rear sway bar, but the MSS springs transformed the car's dynamics. I've never driven a race car before, but I imagine this is a sample of what it might feel like.

    Another change I noticed is that the car just stayed level. Taking off from a stop, and braking... It just feels like a video game. The car just goes, with no motion from the chassis. Because of this, the car feels like it has a little more pep from a stand still. It's as if the power is delivered more efficiently to the wheels. I'm not sure if that's the case, but it feels like it! Downshifting also feels different. No more lurching, even at higher RPM.

    The kit also comes with a handy wrench for the adjusters, and a MSS hat.

    Big thanks to Greg from Excelerate Performance who patiently answered all my questions and made me feel comfortable through the process.

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    Nice write up. Which model did you go with? Streets, Sports or Track?

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    Sports Fully Adjustable kit
    2016 Audi S3 Premium Plus | Sepang Blue Pearl Effect / Black Interior | Technology package | 19" Performance package | Bang & Olufsen Sound System

    MSS Sports Fully Adjustable Spring Kit | 034Motorsport Stage 1 | 034Motorsport rear subframe mount inserts | 034Motorsport dogbone mount insert | Resonator delete

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    thanks for the review.....haven't came across a bad review on these yet. Almost positive this will be one of my first upgrades.
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    Nice review! The more I read about these, the more I'm sold on them.
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    Great review from a local installation. Really touches a lot of the nit pick areas where a lot of reviews wont touch upon. VI really look forward to see what you think after a few thousand miles. Just to think it gets better!

    Thanks!

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    Love mine as well. I went with the tracks. I like my car in Comfort mode for my daily drives.

    Drop that puppy, you won't regret it. It won't degrade the ride and looks really, really good, but as you stated keep the rake (back higher), that's needed for the design for anti squat/anti dive characteristics you mentioned.
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    Could your front go a little lower?
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    It can go a lot lower. I'll have to get a good pic of mine. I'm all the way down on the front adjusters. I had H&R sports and it's the same or lower than those in terms of how low they can go, which was perfect for what I wanted. My springs might have a little more settling to do, I'll have to check my mileage, but after 2K they're done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by onequick4door View Post
    It can go a lot lower. I'll have to get a good pic of mine. I'm all the way down on the front adjusters. I had H&R sports and it's the same or lower than those in terms of how low they can go, which was perfect for what I wanted. My springs might have a little more settling to do, I'll have to check my mileage, but after 2K they're done.
    Please do post some pictures!
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    I am waiting for them to settle before deciding if I want to go lower, but like oq4d mentioned, they have more room to adjust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John P. View Post
    Please do post some pictures!
    This after very close to the 2k mileage break in. I'm running -2.25 F/-1.75 R degrees of camber so the fender spacing is going to be slightly tighter for a normal street alignment.




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    I love the drop, plus the ride quality with what I've done to my suspension is pretty fricking amazing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by onequick4door View Post
    This after very close to the 2k mileage break in. I'm running -2.25 F/-1.75 R degrees of camber so the fender spacing is going to be slightly tighter for a normal street alignment.



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    Can anyone tell me the difference between sports and track for the MSS adjustable kit?
    Anyone know spring rates?
    Anyone have an idea how MUCH firmer the tracks are?
    Does lowering this car impact the camber a lot?

    Thanks in advance
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    Just a heads up, with magride, it’s always a good idea to do a recalibrate after any drop, it’ll improve the ride quality much more when it’s adopted to the new height.

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    Hi,
    If I lower my springs all the way down on the front and the rear axle (It’s an Audi TT RS) would they be even or the ones on the back axle would be 5 Milimeters higher as you recommended by MSS? Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by robos4 View Post
    Can anyone tell me the difference between sports and track for the MSS adjustable kit?
    Anyone know spring rates?
    Anyone have an idea how MUCH firmer the tracks are?
    Does lowering this car impact the camber a lot?

    Thanks in advance
    Rob
    I have the same questions. It seems like they’re not published?

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    Quote Originally Posted by audidriva View Post
    I have the same questions. It seems like they’re not published?
    The rates are not published. If you look around, individuals have taken the time to measure the rates. They are actually significantly softer than stock, which is why they ride smoother than stock.

    The track rates get closer to stock, the rear will stiffen up more than stock, but nothing out of this world stiff by any means.

    Just like with any other lowering spring, or coilover conversion, front camber is minimally impacted due to the McPherson strut arrangement. Only toe will need adjustment. In the rear, the car will gain more negative camber and the toe will go out a bit, there is plenty of adjustment on the two eccentric adjustments to get back to factory settings.

    If you need to know the rates you'd be better off purchasing a Ground Control kit. This would be cheaper as well.
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