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  1. #1
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    4L Q7 Parking Aid issue

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    Hi everybody,

    I am looking for some advice to try an fix an intermittent problem I am having with the parking aid on my wife's 4L Q7.

    Specs of the car:

    '06 4L Q7 V6 TDi
    MMI 2G high
    Parking system plus (front and rear sensors with graphical display)

    Tools available:
    Full Vag-com software with genuine Ross-tech cable
    Elsa
    Tools to physically remove/replace parts

    Description of issue/things tried:
    - When selecting reverse I get a long beep and the parking aid does not function
    - It sometimes works, and when it does it will work for a couple of days
    - I can talk to the Park Assist module (J446) through vag-com and can activate/test all functions through Meas. Blocks option.
    - I have tested the MOST bus through vag-com and all comes back clear
    - I get a communication intermittent fault at the Control head in vag-com
    - I have physically unplugged and plugged back in the park assist module (J446), the Control head module and the data bus diagnostic interface (J533)

    Thoughts:
    It seems the CAN-bus communications are working ok as I can communicate with the parking aid module. I can't pin point any of the three modules themselves as being faulty as they are either talking to vag-com (parking assist module) or doing everything else they should be doing (control head and J533). I do have one faulty parking sensor, but when the system intermittently works I just don't get any feedback from that one sensor; everything else works as it should. The vag-com makes it look like the parking assist module isn't talking to the control head, but the CAN and MOST buses appear to be working fine and J533 appears to be working too. There is a dension gateway plugged into the MOST bus, but I'm I don't think this would be causing this specific issue. I guess I could try unplugging this and see if the problem goes away.

    Below is a full vag-com scan.

    Any advice/guidance would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks in advance.


    PHP Code:
    Friday,14,April,2017,16:49:27:35988
    VCDS 
    -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version
    17.1.3.0 (x64)
    Data version20170220 DS267.3
    www
    .Ross-Tech.com


    VIN
    WAUZZZ4L27D027898   License PlateDMD899
    Mileage
    135280km-84059mi   Repair Order


    Chassis Type4L (4L0)
    Scan01 02 03 05 07 08 09 0E 15 16 17 18 19 36 3C 42 46 47 4F 52
              56 61 62 69 6F 72 76

    VIN
    WAUZZZ4L27D027898   Mileage135280km-84059miles

    00
    -Steering Angle Sensor -- StatusOK 0000
    01
    -Engine -- StatusOK 0000
    02
    -Auto Trans -- StatusOK 0000
    03
    -ABS Brakes -- StatusOK 0000
    05
    -Acc/Start Auth. -- StatusOK 0000
    07
    -Control Head -- StatusMalfunction 0010
    08
    -Auto HVAC -- StatusMalfunction 0010
    09
    -CentElect. -- StatusOK 0000
    0E
    -Media Player 1 -- StatusOK 0000
    15
    -Airbags -- StatusOK 0000
    16
    -Steering wheel -- StatusOK 0000
    17
    -Instruments -- StatusOK 0000
    18
    -AuxHeat -- StatusOK 0000
    19
    -CAN Gateway -- StatusOK 0000
    36
    -Seat MemDrvr -- StatusOK 0000
    3C
    -Lane Change -- StatusOK 0000
    42
    -Door ElectDriver -- StatusOK 0000
    46
    -Central Conv. -- StatusMalfunction 0010
    47
    -Sound System -- StatusOK 0000
    4F
    -CentrElectrII -- StatusOK 0000
    52
    -Door ElectPass. -- StatusOK 0000
    56
    -Radio -- StatusOK 0000
    61
    -Battery Regul. -- StatusOK 0000
    62
    -DoorRear Left -- StatusOK 0000
    69
    -Trailer -- StatusOK 0000
    6F
    -CentrConvII -- StatusOK 0000
    72
    -DoorRear Right -- StatusOK 0000
    76
    -Park Assist -- StatusMalfunction 0010
     
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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       Part No SW
    4L0 910 401 M    HW4L0 907 401 
       Component
    3.0L V6TDI  G000AG  0010  
       Revision
    : --H03---    Serial number:               
       
    Coding0011779
       Shop 
    #: WSC 00020 824 81311
       
    VCID2C5717F88F87A32165-8078

    No fault code found
    .
    Readiness0 0 0 0 0 

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 02Auto Trans        Labels09D-927-750.lbl
       Part No SW
    09D 927 750 FK    HW09D 927 750 FK
       Component
    AL 750 6A           0940  
       Revision
    00H52000    Serial number:               
       
    Coding0000504
       Shop 
    #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       
    VCID7CF7E7B83F67F3A1B5-8028

    No fault code found
    .

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03ABS Brakes        Labels4L0-910-517-V1.clb
       Part No SW
    4L0 910 517 A    HW4L0 614 517 A
       Component
    ESP ALLRAD MK25E1   0130  
       Revision
    00H21001    
       Coding
    0033921
       Shop 
    #: WSC 00020 824 81311
       
    VCID285FEBE89B7F8F0181-807C

    No fault code found
    .

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 05Acc/Start Auth.        Labels4F0-910-852.clb
       Part No SW
    4F0 910 852     HW4F0 905 852 B
       Component
    FBSAUDIC6 ELV   H31 0210  
       Revision
    27120501    Serial number10601000455643
       Coding
    0000147
       Shop 
    #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       
    VCID63C5BCC4A2D92C5994-8036

       Subsystem 1 
    Part No4F0 910 131 A
       Component
    FBSAUDIC6 EZS   H45 0080

       Subsystem 2 
    Part No4F0 910 220 
       Component
    FBSAUDIC6 IDG   H01 0040

    No fault code found
    .

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 07Control Head        Labels4L0-910-7xx-07-H.clb
       Part No SW
    4L0 910 729 S    HW4E0 035 729 
       Component
    Interfacebox    H43 2830  
       Revision
    00000000    Serial number386FT067514614
       Coding
    0002002
       Shop 
    #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       
    VCID3F8D50B46EF128B9D0-806A

       Subsystem 1 
    Part No4L0 910 609 
       Component
    E0380 BedienteilH02 0060

       Subsystem 2 
    Serial number00000000446807

       Subsystem 3 
    Serial number0119.06.060000000100011435˙

       Subsystem 4 
    Serial number011435˙

    1 Fault Found
    :
    01327 Control Module for Parking Aid (J446
                
    004 No Signal/Communication Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame
    :
                        
    Fault Status00100100
                        Fault Priority
    5
                        Fault Frequency
    3
                        Reset counter
    73
                        Mileage
    135284 km
                        Time Indication
    0
                        Date
    2017.04.14
                        Time
    15:51:34


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08Auto HVAC        LabelsNone
       Part No SW
    4L0 910 043     HW4L0 820 043 E
       Component
    KLIMABETAETIGUNGH05 0040  
       Revision
    00---008    Serial number00000000043368
       Coding
    0001110
       Shop 
    #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       
    VCID61C9B6CCB8C53E4986-8034

    1 Fault Found
    :
    01592 Air Quality Sensor (G238
                
    010 Open or Short to Plus
                 Freeze Frame
    :
                        
    Fault Status01101010
                        Fault Priority
    3
                        Fault Frequency
    1
                        Reset counter
    32
                        Mileage
    135284 km
                        Time Indication
    0
                        Date
    2017.04.14
                        Time
    15:35:34

                 Freeze Frame
    :
                        
    Temperature22.0°C


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09CentElect.        Labels4F0-910-279.lbl
       Part No SW
    4F0 910 279 K    HW4F0 907 279 
       Component
    ILM Fahrer      H17 0240  
       Revision
    00000000    Serial number4F0907279     
       Coding
    0010101
       Shop 
    #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       
    VCID3169068CA8A5CEC956-8064

       Subsystem 1 
    Part No4L2 910 113   Labels1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component
    Wischer AU716   H07 0030  
       Coding
    00064792
       Shop 
    #: WSC 31414  

       
    Subsystem 2 Part No4E0 910 557 A  Labels8K0-955-559.CLB
       Component
    REGENLICHTSENSORH13 0090  
       Coding
    00150059
       Shop 
    #: WSC 31414  

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 0EMedia Player 1        Labels4E0-910-111.lbl
       Part No SW
    4L0 910 111 A    HW4L0 035 111 
       Component
    CD-Changer      H41 0100  
       Revision
    00000000    Serial numberAUZ5ZBF3025203
       Shop 
    #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       
    VCID1E33CD30C93B41B1FB-804A

    No fault code found
    .

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15Airbags        Labels4L0-910-655.lbl
       Part No SW
    4L0 910 655 B    HW4L0 959 655 
       Component
    30 AIRBAG AUDI8RH38 0120  
       Revision
    05H38000    Serial number0037GD069LUJ  
       Coding
    0013104
       Shop 
    #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       
    VCID2C5717F88F87A32165-8078

       Subsystem 1 
    Serial number6332QSME0F2333719

       Subsystem 2 
    Serial number6342QSME0F53236BL

       Subsystem 3 
    Serial number6352QSME107B291FN

       Subsystem 4 
    Serial number6362QSME10081877A

       Subsystem 5 
    Serial number63734SME0E160F330

       Subsystem 6 
    Serial number63834SME0E16324D2

    No fault code found
    .

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16Steering wheel        Labels4F0-910-549.lbl
       Part No SW
    4F0 910 549     HW4F0 953 549 A
       Component
    Lenksäulenmodul H08 0230  
       Revision
    00H08000    Serial number90026061690234
       Coding
    0102042
       Shop 
    #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       
    VCID66C3A5D051EB597173-8032

       Subsystem 1 
    Part NoXXXXXXXXXXX 
       Component
    Lenkradmodul    H07 0090

    No fault code found
    .

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17Instruments        Labels4L0-910-xxx-17.lbl
       Part No SW
    4F0 910 900 C    HW4L0 920 900 B
       Component
    KOMBIINSTRM73 H11 0070  
       Revision
    00100000    Serial number4ZN7A6F66     
       Coding
    2561843
       Shop 
    #: WSC 60308 067 57207
       
    VCID204FF3C8F34F7741C9-8074

    No fault code found
    .

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 18AuxHeat        LabelsNone
       Part No SW
    4L0 910 105     HW4L0 815 071 B
       Component
    Heizgeraet      H07 0050  
       Revision
    0000000D    Serial number00000009011043
       Coding
    0000002
       Shop 
    #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       
    VCID60CFB3C8B3CF374189-8034

    No fault code found
    .

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19CAN Gateway        Labels4L0-910-468.clb
       Part No SW
    4L0 910 468     HW4L0 907 468 A
       Component
    J533__Gateway   H06 0040  
       Revision
    00H06000    Serial number0800D066078307
       Coding
    F7DB9E57340202
       Shop 
    #: WSC 00020 824 81311
       
    VCID6CD7D7F84F07632125-8038

    No fault code found
    .

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 36Seat MemDrvr        LabelsNone
       Part No SW
    4F0 910 760     HW4L0 959 760 
       Component
    Sitzmemory FS   H01 0100  
       Revision
    00000000    Serial number00000000896401
       Coding
    0091138
       Shop 
    #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       
    VCID61C9B6CCB8C53E4986-8034

    No fault code found
    .

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 3CLane Change        LabelsNone
       Part No SW
    4L0 910 566 A    HW4L0 907 566 A
       Component
    J0769_SWA_MasterH06 0060  
       Revision
    00H06000    Serial number6PZ 009 014-00
       Coding
    0001101
       Shop 
    #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       
    VCID2C5717F88F87A32165-8078

       Subsystem 1 
    Part No4L0 910 568 A
       Component
    J0770_SWA_Slave_H05 0060

       Subsystem 2 
    Serial number6PZ 009 014-20

       Subsystem 3 
    Serial number3F27.06.0600H0500000010014˙

       Subsystem 4 
    Serial number010014˙

    No fault code found
    .

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42Door ElectDriver        Labels4L0-910-793-42.lbl
       Part No SW
    4L0 910 793 B    HW4L0 959 793 B
       Component
    TSG FA          H12 0130  
       Revision
    00000000    Serial numberHir
       Coding
    0002779
       Shop 
    #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       
    VCID2F6D00F4BE91D83940-807A

    No fault code found
    .

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46Central Conv.        Labels4L0-910-289.lbl
       Part No SW
    4L0 910 289 D    HW4L0 907 289 A
       Component
    Komfortgeraet   H05 0020  
       Revision
    0020 ---    Serial number01015007270000
       Coding
    4219121
       Shop 
    #: WSC 00020 824 81311
       
    VCID3169068CA8A5CEC956-8064

       Subsystem 1 
    Part No1K0 951 605 C
       Component
    LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301

       Subsystem 2 
    Part No4F0 910 177 s
       Component
    Innenraumueberw.H01 0020

    1 Fault Found
    :
    01699 Motor for Central LockingHatch/Trunk (V53
                
    009 Open or Short to Ground
                 Freeze Frame
    :
                        
    Fault Status01101001
                        Fault Priority
    3
                        Fault Frequency
    1
                        Reset counter
    33
                        Mileage
    135284 km
                        Time Indication
    0
                        Date
    2017.04.14
                        Time
    16:07:40


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 47Sound System        LabelsNone
       Part No SW
    4L0 910 223 C    HW4L0 035 223 B
       Component
    DSP-AU716       H40 0100  
       Revision
    02S00001    Serial number03105060286069
       Coding
    0000003
       Shop 
    #: WSC 00020 824 999999
       
    VCID2447FFD8E7576B61AD-8070

    No fault code found
    .

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 4FCentrElectrII        Labels4F0-910-280.lbl
       Part No SW
    4F0 910 280     HW4F0 907 280 E
       Component
    ILM Beifahrer   H10 0080  
       Revision
    :             Serial number00000000001011
       Coding
    0011101
       Shop 
    #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       
    VCID5EB38D3089BB01B1BB-800A

    No fault code found
    .

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52Door ElectPass.        Labels4L0-910-793-52.lbl
       Part No SW
    4L0 910 793 B    HW4L0 959 792 B
       Component
    TSG BF          H12 0130  
       Revision
    00000000    Serial number‘ˆr
       Coding
    0002779
       Shop 
    #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       
    VCID2F6D00F4BE91D83940-807A

    No fault code found
    .

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56Radio        Labels4E0-910-541.lbl
       Part No SW
    4E0 910 541 M    HW4E0 035 541 P
       Component
    TUNER EU/US/RDW H42 0570  
       Revision
    00000000    Serial number388F+067534298
       Coding
    0000001
       Shop 
    #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       
    VCID2A5B11E08573BD1197-807E

    No fault code found
    .

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 61Battery Regul.        Labels4F0-910-181.lbl
       Part No SW
    4L0 910 181     HW4L0 915 181 
       Component
    J0644 BEM       H12 0530  
       Revision
    : --------    Serial number00000000023225
       Shop 
    #: WSC 00020 824 81311
       
    VCID64C7BFD8A7D72B616D-8030

       Subsystem 1 
    Part No4F0 915 105 D
       Component
    von VA0  2606171920       
       Coding
    344630393135313035442056413032363036313731393230
       Shop 
    #: WSC 31414 790 00001

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 62DoorRear Left        Labels4L0-910-795.lbl
       Part No SW
    4L0 910 795 B    HW4L0 959 795 B
       Component
    TSG HL          H21 0050  
       Coding
    0002058
       Shop 
    #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       
    VCID3169068CA8A5CEC956-8064

    No fault code found
    .

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 69Trailer        LabelsNone
       Part No SW
    4L0 910 383     HW4L0 907 383 
       Component
    ANHAENGERELEKTR 003 0020  
       Coding
    0000003
       Shop 
    #: WSC 00020 824 81311
       
    VCID68DFABE85BFF4F0141-803C

    No fault code found
    .

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 6FCentrConvII        Labels4L0-910-290.lbl
       Part No SW
    4L0 910 290     HW4L0 907 290 
       Component
    ILM HINTEN 2    H05 0040  
       Revision
    AAH05044    Serial number001735391-----
       
    Coding0000001
       Shop 
    #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       
    VCID65C1A2DCACED52697A-8030

    No fault code found
    .

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 72DoorRear Right        Labels4L0-910-795.lbl
       Part No SW
    4L0 910 795 B    HW4L0 959 794 B
       Component
    TSG HR          H21 0050  
       Coding
    0002058
       Shop 
    #: WSC 31414 790 00001
       
    VCID3169068CA8A5CEC956-8064

    No fault code found
    .

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 76Park Assist        Labels4Fx-910-283.lbl
       Part No SW
    4F0 910 283 G    HW4F0 919 283 G
       Component
    Parkhilfe 8-Kan H12 0060  
       Revision
    00H12000    Serial number06320616504073
       Coding
    0211046
       Shop 
    #: WSC 00020 824 81311
       
    VCID285FEBE89B7F8F0181-807C

    1 Fault Found
    :
    01628 Sensor for Parking-AidFront Mid-Left (G254
                
    004 No Signal/Communication
                 Freeze Frame
    :
                        
    Fault Status01100100
                        Fault Priority
    3
                        Fault Frequency
    1
                        Reset counter
    32
                        Mileage
    135284 km
                        Time Indication
    0
                        Date
    2017.04.14
                        Time
    15:30:56


    End
    -------------------------(Elapsed Time02:30)-------------------------- 

  2. #2
    Active Member One Ring
    Join Date
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    AZ Member #
    138985
    Location
    New Zealand

    For anyone who comes across this with similar symptoms, it was as easy as changing the faulty sensor. It seems the faulty sensor causes the other faults as well.

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