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    Modified Air Intake - The Noise and Performance people look for with a factory look.

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    Alright guys. I have been asked a few times now regarding the intake in my B7 A4 Avant. Why it sounds the way it does and also why I chose the route I went over spending money on an aftermarket intake. The answer is simple. It came down to wanting the best possible performance with good sound at a fraction of the cost and keeping things looking OEM.

    What I have done is modified the OEM Air Box to allow more flow along with more sound and add in a K&N Filter in the process. Now before we get started, I'm not telling you that you are going to pick up 50+ HP or that this is going to make your car sound like a jet taking off. Those are not my claims. With this modified air box I have noticed as well as a few other people who have done this modification, is this allows the turbo to spool up slightly quicker, produces the "whoosh" and "sucking" sound most are looking for and also retains the factory properties in design and shielding that help keep the intake cool by not removing the factory heat shield the car came with. This will also help by not restricting the air flow to two small inlets on the air box. All of this while looking stock from the top of the car.

    Let's get to work.

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    1 x Philips Head Screw Driver
    1 x Flat head Screw Driver
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    1 x Demel or similar cutting tool.
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    Step 1.) Remove the Stock Air Box from the car.





    Step 2.) Trace a line on the bottom of the air box in a square pattern around the point that faces the passenger fender. You will notice that this portion of the Air Box sits on the outside of the frame rail away from the turbo. This is an area that collects air through the fog light grill. If you are worried you are taking too much start with a smaller amount and work your way out. Since I have done this on my car and a few others i knew were to go with the lines. You can use these as a reference point when making your outline.






    Step 3.) Take the halves of the Air Box Apart by removing the two Philips Head screws.






    Step 4.) Remove Air Filter (This box already had a K & N Filter inside so now is a good time to clean it out.)





    Step 5.) With the filter out you can see all of the Sound Deadening Material they put into the box. This also traps a lot of crap in the bottom of the box where it collects. With this modification things like this will no longer collect in the bottom of the box when they come through the grill or the fender vent. The crud will simply fall out the bottom. The Red marks indicate where you will need to use the Flat Head Screw Driver to remove the material. Simply place the Flat Head between the air box and the material holder and twist








    Step 6.) Now that you have removed the material from the air box you are ready to start cutting the box. Use the Dremel Tool that you have and a cutting wheel and follow your outlined path. REMEMBER TO WEAR EYE PROTECTION:. You should be able to cut through this easily with the tool and it should not take long.




    Step 7.) Now that you have the air box cut do some clean up around the edge. you should be able to use the Dremel tool or even some light sand paper or your fingers to remove the melted stringy plastic around the edge.




    Step 8.) Once you have the box clean it's a good time to wash out the bottom of the box to remove any dirt or grime and shavings. Once this is complete you can reinstall the filter and reassemble the air box. Assembly is reverse of disassembly.









    Step 9.) Reinstall in car and enjoy!!


    Sound Clip of what this Modified Air Box sounds like in my JHM Avant with the JHM Stage 3 Turbo Kit installed:
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    Modified Air Intake - The Noise and Performance people look for with a factory look.

    Nice diy

    Just out of curiosity do you know of or does anyone know of issues with running an aftermarket intake in the rain/snow since it removes the snow screen? That has been the #1. Concern of mine other than cost and this seems like a great alternative to no longer worry about it and get the sound I'm looking for. (The intakes that I am concerned with are the carbonio style and the other one that ecs sells and how they both direct air straight at an unprotected filter)

    How loud did it make it? I figure it won't be as much as a cone filter but some say that is too much sound, and this is at least free to try


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    I wonder if putting some type of screen over the opening would help keep it clean without reducing the airflow? I want to try this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwinters14 View Post
    I wonder if putting some type of screen over the opening would help keep it clean without reducing the airflow? I want to try this.
    For years now guys have been just drilling multiple holes in that section of air box, even through the fender well and air box too pull air in from more areas. Using some screen material from a hardware store to keep out particles. I can't find a good link.

    Good DIY nice write up with plenty of pics. No questions will need to asked doing this mod!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dwinters14 View Post
    I wonder if putting some type of screen over the opening would help keep it clean without reducing the airflow? I want to try this.
    That is a pretty good idea. I may try this after a little bit when i have time to leave the car down for the dry time of the epoxy.

    Quote Originally Posted by canadianA4B7 View Post
    For years now guys have been just drilling multiple holes in that section of air box, even through the fender well and air box too pull air in from more areas. Using some screen material from a hardware store to keep out particles. I can't find a good link.

    Good DIY nice write up with plenty of pics. No questions will need to asked doing this mod!
    Yep nothing new for sure but now we have a nice DIY and like you said tons of pics!

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    If you are looking for some screen material this should work: http://www.homedepot.com/p/Saint-Gob...57-M/202091907

    Just cut out the bit you need and glue it in.

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    Yeah, I would love a video showing the sound difference between stock, and the gutted/cut airbox. If it doesn't sound Ricey, I'll probably end up doing this.


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    Quote Originally Posted by brettle0 View Post
    Yeah, I would love a video showing the sound difference between stock, and the gutted/cut airbox. If it doesn't sound Ricey, I'll probably end up doing this.


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    Modified Air Intake - The Noise and Performance people look for with a factory look.

    Quote Originally Posted by brettle0 View Post
    Yeah, I would love a video showing the sound difference between stock, and the gutted/cut airbox. If it doesn't sound Ricey, I'll probably end up doing this.


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    I will do this to mine a provide a video brettle0, I have the perfect material for the hole so I don't have much issue with it, only thing is I probably couldn't resell it if I upgraded but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I guess lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by pezgoon View Post
    I will do this to mine a provide a video brettle0, I have the perfect material for the hole so I don't have much issue with it, only thing is I probably couldn't resell it if I upgraded but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I guess lol


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    That'd be awesome. And yeah, but you could probably find someone on this site to buy it off you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pezgoon View Post
    I will do this to mine a provide a video brettle0, I have the perfect material for the hole so I don't have much issue with it, only thing is I probably couldn't resell it if I upgraded but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I guess lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by brettle0 View Post
    That'd be awesome. And yeah, but you could probably find someone on this site to buy it off you.


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    Sound Clips uploaded... Full Throttle and Partial Throttle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dru@JHM View Post
    Sound Clips uploaded... Full Throttle and Partial Throttle
    Was that with just the windows down from inside the cabin?


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    Quote Originally Posted by pezgoon View Post
    Was that with just the windows down from inside the cabin?


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    I put the mic on the rain tray just under the hood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dru@JHM View Post
    I put the mic on the rain tray just under the hood.

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    Well sounds to me like I'm finna have to do this mod. Thanks for the update Dru!


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    Back in my 4Runner days there was a similar mod with a marine access port where you mounted a 4 in access hole that you could open and close at your discretion.

    Curious if you have existing logs of the maf from before the mod to after to compare the g/s curves to rpm?
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    Did this and installed the 034 motorsports turbo inlet hose over the weekend. Pedal is more responsive from a stop and in general at lower speeds. I think it sounds much better overall. You can definitely hear the turbo more now than before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by a4937 View Post
    Did this and installed the 034 motorsports turbo inlet hose over the weekend. Pedal is more responsive from a stop and in general at lower speeds. I think it sounds much better overall. You can definitely hear the turbo more now than before.
    Did you put mesh over the hole you cut in your air box? Or did you just leave it open.


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    Quote Originally Posted by brettle0 View Post
    Did you put mesh over the hole you cut in your air box? Or did you just leave it open.


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    It's still open.

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    Just finished this up on my 140k Avant with K&N drop in/Revo/034 TIP/034 HFC/GFB DV. Took about 45min and 1 beer. Butt dyno noticed a difference. Definitely more of a CAI-esc noise during acceleration and WOT. Turbo was screaming on a quick highway pull in gears 1-4.



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    wow this is awesome so my car will sound like this with the stock filter or do i need an K&N? also i have the piston style DV.
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    I did this same thing but with my filter on there it makes no noise whe i take my filter out though it makes the nice noise whistle noise? Does it have to be a specific filter i have a OEM on there.

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    Modified Air Intake - The Noise and Performance people look for with a factory look.

    Quote Originally Posted by dalmation53 View Post
    I did this same thing but with my filter on there it makes no noise whe i take my filter out though it makes the nice noise whistle noise? Does it have to be a specific filter i have a OEM on there.

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    Drop in K&N filter you will hear more noise

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmyjamms View Post
    Drop in K&N filter you will hear more noise

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    Ok what"does that intake have different in general? Less material?

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    It's a less restrictive design. More airflow, more sound, better throttle response. This is the one I have.
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00TQ...r+filter&psc=1


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    Quote Originally Posted by a4937 View Post
    It's a less restrictive design. More airflow, more sound, better throttle response. This is the one I have.
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00TQ...r+filter&psc=1


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    Ok i see i will be buying that one then. Thanks

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    I know this is an old post but does anyone have a way of accessing the photos from this DIY?

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    Quote Originally Posted by menace1930 View Post
    I know this is an old post but does anyone have a way of accessing the photos from this DIY?
    Photos are all working for me. I’m on tapatalk app

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmyjamms View Post
    Photos are all working for me. I’m on tapatalk app
    Same for me. I actually used this diy 5 months ago. Very quick and easy to do.


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    One of the best DIY's out there to do! You'll save yourself a few hundred dollars not buying a CAI and it's a cool weekend project!
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    How did you get your diverted valve to be so audible. I put a spacer in mine and still don’t hear anything from it. I want the sound you got. And it’s killing me lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bdelauder1987 View Post
    How did you get your diverted valve to be so audible. I put a spacer in mine and still don’t hear anything from it. I want the sound you got. And it’s killing me lol


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    Did you cut a hole in air box bottom?

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    That diverter is exactly what mine sounded like when the diaphragm was ripped.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bdelauder1987 View Post
    How did you get your diverted valve to be so audible. I put a spacer in mine and still don’t hear anything from it. I want the sound you got. And it’s killing me lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bdelauder1987 View Post
    How did you get your diverted valve to be so audible. I put a spacer in mine and still don’t hear anything from it. I want the sound you got. And it’s killing me lol


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    The DV recirculates air back into the intake stream. The reason why it’s so loud is because there’s a much thinner filter in there (K&N) and half the bottom of the air box is gone so there’s way less material dampening the sound. That’s kinda the whole point of this thread and it was explained. Did you even read this thread? 🤣
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    Quote Originally Posted by EvolutionArmory View Post
    The DV recirculates air back into the intake stream. The reason why it’s so loud is because there’s a much thinner filter in there (K&N) and half the bottom of the air box is gone so there’s way less material dampening the sound. That’s kinda the whole point of this thread and it was explained. Did you even read this thread?
    X2...... I just read cut sounded pretty similar

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    Quote Originally Posted by A4 Quattro Joe View Post
    X2...... I just read cut sounded pretty similar

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    This is still the easiest mod you can do!

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    Hey guys, I did this mod and added a screen to it. I figured I'd post some pictures in the event you would also like to do the same.

    Additional Items Needed:

    - Fiberglass screen
    - 3M Double sided tape
    - Epoxy (I used and highly recommend JBWeld's Clearweld. It's safe for this install and won't have an adverse reaction with the 3M Tape)

    After you cut out the slot for the mod take your 3M tape and outline the edge of the interior part of the hole, press very firmly on the tape. You can sand the edges inside first if you'd like to make the tape adhere better, but it doesn't matter once you use the epoxy.

    https://i.imgur.com/FtAuHCG.jpg

    Cut out your screen, make sure it's bigger than the hole on each side by about 2-3 inches. Shape it inside the hole and press it firmly on the 3M tape starting at one side and working your way around. Make sure there is no gaps in the 3M tape/screen and the airbox hole, inspect it closely.

    https://i.imgur.com/K1iwFtm.jpg

    Afterwards apply the Epoxy religiously around the entire thing. Make sure the Epoxy is completely covering the 3M tape and screen on the inside. Extend the epoxy roughly an inch outwards from the 3M tape to ensure the holding strength has a larger surface. Use my picture for reference. A small amount of Epoxy in the screen is okay, it's hard to avoid it. If you used the Epoxy I recommended, then it dries in 5 minutes and takes an hour to cure. Once it's cured used a razor or a pair of scissors to trim away the excess screen. Wait the full hour before installing it or trimming the screen!

    https://i.imgur.com/UCevPZr.jpg

    And here's how the finished product will look on the outside!


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    Nice job my man. I built that same thing, but minus the screen. I didn’t think about the screen. And nobody understands how hard it is to cut this right and make it look nice at the same time. I used a grinder for straight cuts, but that left melted plastic chuncks, which then I hand filed and shaped it to perfection.


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    This isn’t a simple thing to do


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