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BumblebVR6
When I access the cluster, this comes up as default. That's not the skc is it?
I do not believe so...
Below info from user "cschuster", all credit to him.
this line below will help you...
3: Read decrypted .bin. At the bottom it will display a 4 digit number (ex. 1111). Put a 0 in front of it, and this is your SKC (ex. 01111). This number will be adapted to the new cluster so it matches the ECU. Write it down. You are now done with the original cluster.
I made a some notes on the procedure...
Here is my "cheat sheet" I made for myself, including all my dumb questions I asked...just in case someone has the same questions.
1. Retrieve a SKC from cluster.
- Open Vag EEPROM Programmer. For future steps, always use the RB4 dropdown list instead of the buttons. I don't know if they change depending on what mode the cluster is in.
- Read encrypted cluster .bin file. Save file for backup. Label all .bins so you know what they are.
***If you somehow manage to brick the original cluster, put it in mode 6 (adapted) and write the backup encrypted file to it. It should go back to functioning normally. If it does not write the first time, try a few more times. Start over again.***
- Put in mode 4 (virgin/new).
- Read decrypted .bin. At the bottom it will display a 4 digit number (ex. 1111). Put a 0 in front of it, and this is your SKC (ex. 01111). This number will be adapted to the new cluster so it matches the ECU. Write it down. You are now done with the original cluster.
If keeping this cluster in car, put back in mode 6 (adapted)
(confirmed works. Will throw a bunch of communication codes, use Vag Com to clear them.)
2. Set cluster to “new mode”
This is done via the RB4 drop down menu in Vag EEPROM 1.19
3. Save a decrypted .bin file for backup purposes.
This is done via the RB4 drop down menu in Vag EEPROM 1.19
4. Use decrypted .bin file to recover a “bricked” cluster.
1. Open .bin file. Write EEprom (Encrypted). Hopefully this clears the error and you can continue.
2. Set Newmode. In this mode, you can read SKC if you Read EEprom (Decrypted).
3. Convert current mileage into kilometers. Enter in lower right box.
4. Set Kilometer.
5. Set Back to Adapted Again.
6. Go through VCDS to adapt. SKC for new cluster is 0XXXX.
5. Adapt cluster to car (ROSS TECH / VAG COM NEEDED FOR THIS TASK)
In VCDS, go into engine and write down IMMO ID. Go into instruments and do the same thing. Numbers will match. Ross tech explains this well.
Original Cluster
1: Open Vag EEPROM Programmer. For future steps, always use the RB4 dropdown list (tabs at top) instead of the buttons. I don't know if they change depending on what mode the cluster is in.
1: Read encrypted cluster .bin file. Save file for backup. Label all .bins so you know what they are.
***If you somehow manage to brick the original cluster, put it in mode 6 (adapted) and write the backup encrypted file to it. It should go back to functioning normally. If it does not write the first time, try a few more times. Start over again.***
QUESTION – when you read then save the encrypted .bin file, is it still encrypted and able to be written directly to a “bricked cluster?
ANSWER (from Audizine user CHCHUSTER) Yes. When in mode 6 (adapted) you can only read and write encrypted files. When in mode 4 (virgin/new), you can only read and write decrypted files.
2: Put in mode 4 (virgin/new).
3: Read decrypted .bin. At the bottom it will display a 4 digit number (ex. 1111). Put a 0 in front of it, and this is your SKC (ex. 01111). This number will be adapted to the new cluster so it matches the ECU. Write it down. You are now done with the original cluster.
QUESTION – when cluster is put in Mode 4 (virgin) the .bin file automatically becomes decrypted?
ANSWER (from Audizine user CHCHUSTER) Yes. I'm no software engineer, but selecting mode 4 must decrypt the eeprom so it can be modified.
New Cluster
1: Disconnect battery, install.
2: Read encrypted .bin. Save as backup.
3: Put in mode 4 (virgin/new).
4: Read decrypted .bin. Write down SKC, using same method as above. For this example, we will use 02222.
5: Convert current mileage to km, enter it into the box in the lower right. Using the RB4 drop down menu, click Set Kilometers. Mileage is now set. If you are using km, obviously no conversion is needed.
6: Put back into mode 6. (Note: I first tried using virgin mode to adapt, but wasn't clear on the rest of the process and messed up. You can adapt using VCDS if you have both SKC's anyways)
7: Exit Vag EEPROM Programmer. Open VCDS. Ross Tech has an instruction and video on how to do this as well. This is just summarized from them.
8: Login to instruments using new cluster SKC (02222). Cluster is not adapted yet and still uses its own SKC.
9: Go to adapt. Read channel 50. Value should be 32000. In the test box, enter original SKC (01111). Click test, then save. Close controller, remove key from ignition for 1 min.
10: Turn key back on. Check IMMO ID of cluster and ECU. Both should match now. You will also see the new cluster's VIN to the right of the IMMO ID. If not, figure out where you went wrong.
***If you mess up bad enough to brick the cluster, simply put it back in mode 6 and write your new cluster encrypted backup .bin to it. Start over at step 1.***
11: Login to instruments using original SKC (01111). This will work now because the new cluster's SKC has been changed to the original SKC.
12: Follow Ross Tech's instructions to reprogram keys (see below). Check instrument soft coding to make sure it is correct for your car.
13. Start car. My traction control and seatbelt lights were on, but turned off after a min. You may also have to enter the radio code to get it out of safe mode. Boom, enjoy!
Immobilizer III Key Matching (Cluster)
This procedure details how to match new keys to VW/Audi/Seat/Skoda vehicles with with Immobilizer III, where the immobilizer control module is integrated in the instrument cluster. See the seperate instructions for models where the immobilizer control module is integrated in a separate immo box or where the immobilizer control module is integrated in kessy (Keyless Entry and Start SYstem).
Determining IMMO-ID & VIN
[Select]
[17 - Instruments]
Look at the first "Extra" field. The first 17-digit string is the VIN. The second 14-digit string in the Immo-ID.
[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]
---OR---
[Select]
[17-Instruments]
[Meas.Blocks-08]
Select.Block-081.
[Go!]
The.first.17-digit.string.is.the.VIN..The.second.14-digit.string.is.theImmo-ID..
[Done,Go.Back]
[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]
Key Matching
Prerequisites:
All keys are either new or were adapted to this car (IMMO-ID) before.
You can match up to 8 keys.
While adapting each key, make sure to place the other keys away from the ignition lock (reader coil). The passenger seat is an adequate place.
Battery voltage at least 12.5 V.
[Select]
[17-Instruments]
[Meas.Blocks-08]
Select.Block.022.
[Go!]
The.value.in.field.3.must.be.1.__If.value.is.not.1 ,the.key.is.not.capable.of.being.adapted.to.Immobi lizer.
You can check each key in this manner.
Select.Block.024.
[Go!]
Make sure the shown lock times in field 1, 2 and 3 are 0 (each field represents a time in minutes).
If the lock times are NOT 0:
Do NOT switch off the ignition!
Allow the car to sit for AT LEAST the number of minutes that were indicated by the fields 1-3.
[Done, Go Back]
[Login - 11]
4-digit PIN
Enter zero followed by the 4-digit PIN. For example, if your PIN is 1234, enter 01234.
[Do it!]
[Adaptation-10]
Enter.21.in."Channel.Number".
[Read]
The."Stored.Value".is.the.number.of.keys.currently .matched.
Enter a "new value" corresponding to the total number of keys to be matched, including any existing keys.
Any old keys are automatically being cleared. All keys, including existing keys, must be matched at the same time.
[Save]
[Done,Go.Back]
[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]
Repeat the following steps until all Keys have been matched:
Switch Ignition OFF and remove Key.
Insert the next Key and switch Ignition ON.
The Immobilizer Warning Light will light up for ~2 seconds, wait until it goes out, indicating that the key has been matched.
Note: The above steps must be completed within 60 seconds after saving the Adaptation!
Video Link
Immobilizer Gen 2 and 3 Key Adaptation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wj3K04eMV7w
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