2017 Audi A4 with Manual Transmission

[Pearlywhite]

Does anyone here have the manual transmission yet? I am considering ordering a car but am up in the air about ordering the auto or manual. I just sold my B5 S4 so am now searching for something new. The new S4 will most likely be too expensive, the S3 just isn't as nice as the new S4 on the interior so I am contemplating the A4 with manual but don't know much about it. Has anyone read about it or able to provide any insight. Not sure if the car would take longer to get because of the manual over the auto either. Another consideration will be the aftermarket value of the car down the road. My B5 S4 was a tiptronic so I didn't get as near the amount that I could have had it been a manual. Thoughts?

[JavikoA4]

according to my dealership, they should be here end of the month/february

[doug97gxe]

i'm eyeing the A5 manual as well

[pogiFRESH]

i was told March

[Owens3550]

Buy a b8.5 S4 with a manual transmission:)

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[VipinLJ]

Buy a b8.5 S4 with a manual transmission:)

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Trust me when I say this. We have quite a few B8.5 S4/5 owners who have moved onto the B9 A4 and some even swear that the B9 is better. We even have one multiple S6 owner who has a B9 now and while he does miss the raw power, he isn't unhappy with the B9.

[RudyH]

Trust me when I say this. We have quite a few B8.5 S4/5 owners who have moved onto the B9 A4 and some even swear that the B9 is better. We even have one multiple S6 owner who has a B9 now and while he does miss the raw power, he isn't unhappy with the B9.

It's hard not to - everything is upgraded from the B8/B8, of course let's keep an apples to apples comparison with a B9 S4 when it comes to power, as a B8 owner I think I have come around and looked at it 'yes I lose the DCT but everything is better then my B8 that I would accept the ZF'

EXCEPT...the 6MT + ultra Quattro. I haven't driven it but I am extremely skeptical about it. Will a marginally lesser ultra Quattro sway someone away from the B9 A4 into a B8.5 S4 6MT, maybe...a drastic change will make an enthusiast shutter that's for sure. The other item is for those that enjoy tuning cars, and the rumors around it's torque handling that is being published. You can replace a clutch, but can you replace a center electronic diff for a stronger one? I would go as far as saying I would grab an A4 6MT because I really wish I could go back to a 6MT, but if I have to compromise...I dunno, maybe I will sway like the DCT vs ZF

[JohnEnglish]

All the reviews of the Ultra Quattro system say that it's undetectable. If you're driving your car at the limits on a track you might be able to tell but for street driving you'll never know the difference.

[VipinLJ]

All the reviews of the Ultra Quattro system say that it's undetectable. If you're driving your car at the limits on a track you might be able to tell but for street driving you'll never know the difference.

That is true. But is the ultra down on power too?

[b6onboost]

I really don't think neither the ZF, nor Ultra Quattro, will be a drastic or negative change.

As enthusiasts we tend to focus too narrowly on technical changes rather than the more important overall of 'how does it actually drive'. From everything I've read the latest ZF8s shift nearly just as quick as the DSG, yet are smoother and more reliable. That Ultra Quattro's ability to go FWD is not only transparent but also very well tuned so anytime you could possibly need AWD, its in AWD mode.

Couple that with all the other upgrades and I'm sure both the B9 A4 and S4 will likely be significantly better cars to drive. It will just take some seat time for people to get over the so-called compromise they assume they're making.

It's hard not to - everything is upgraded from the B8/B8, of course let's keep an apples to apples comparison with a B9 S4 when it comes to power, as a B8 owner I think I have come around and looked at it 'yes I lose the DCT but everything is better then my B8 that I would accept the ZF'

EXCEPT...the 6MT + ultra Quattro. I haven't driven it but I am extremely skeptical about it. Will a marginally lesser ultra Quattro sway someone away from the B9 A4 into a B8.5 S4 6MT, maybe...a drastic change will make an enthusiast shutter that's for sure. The other item is for those that enjoy tuning cars, and the rumors around it's torque handling that is being published. You can replace a clutch, but can you replace a center electronic diff for a stronger one? I would go as far as saying I would grab an A4 6MT because I really wish I could go back to a 6MT, but if I have to compromise...I dunno, maybe I will sway like the DCT vs ZF

[JohnEnglish]

That is true. But is the ultra down on power too?

The automatic with regular quattro and the manual with ultra quattro both have 252 HP.

[RudyH]

Couple that with all the other upgrades and I'm sure both the B9 A4 and S4 will likely be significantly better cars to drive. It will just take some seat time for people to get over the so-called compromise they assume they're making.

Ya I think that's what it comes down to. Again the rumors of the handling power of the center diff is the only other big thing, but for often the average person that actually will push the car to it's limits, that small percentage will out weigh the efficiency

[VipinLJ]

I really don't think neither the ZF, nor Ultra Quattro, will be a drastic or negative change.

As enthusiasts we tend to focus too narrowly on technical changes rather than the more important overall of 'how does it actually drive'. From everything I've read the latest ZF8s shift nearly just as quick as the DSG, yet are smoother and more reliable. That Ultra Quattro's ability to go FWD is not only transparent but also very well tuned so anytime you could possibly need AWD, its in AWD mode.

Couple that with all the other upgrades and I'm sure both the B9 A4 and S4 will likely be significantly better cars to drive. It will just take some seat time for people to get over the so-called compromise they assume they're making.

You nailed it.

[RudyH]

Just bumping an old thread, and sorry for the delay in posting this.

I have driven manuals for over 15 yrs, and the current S4 I own had at the time 'cutting edge' technology in the DCT. Thought awesome grab it! Now I really miss the joy of the 6MT.
Decided to look at a B8.5 S4 /w the 6MT (2015) and while on the test drive I had confirmation from the sales person as well as Audi Canada that indeed the 6MT has a QUATTRO not Ultra Quattro system in it. Really the only gripe therefore if you are a 6MT fan is engine choice. Personally I don't think the 2.0T is a slouch now that Audi gave the engine a nice power bump for the B9...

This has made my life WAY harder now.

Do I want 6MT -> if yes Audi A4 or BMW 3-series
if no I want more power -> RS3, S4, S5 Sportback
if want torsen /w Sports Diff -> S4, S5 Sportback
if price is an issue -> S4

ARGH

[simbat]

This should be only in Canada , but I doubt it . The official press release in the USA clearly stated it will be with Ultra Quattro:
https://www.audiusa.com/newsroom/new...l-transmission

PS: I've recently bough a 15' S4 with manual, sport diff, caрbнn trim, BO sound etc. and very low miles. Few weeks ago I took it for oil change and alignment check.It was Friday afternoon the Audi dealership gave me a B9 A4 as loaner to drive over the weekend. After driving it quite a bit I can attest it is fats - almost as bast as the B8/8.5 S4 , but with that everything positive ends . The B9 A4 felt sterile and dull , no steering feedback , suspension - I didn't like how it corners. Interior also felt sterile and Tesla like. I like how the B8/B8.5 is wrapping me and how the dash is organised . I don't care how fast it is it will never give me the joy , that my 15' S4 with manual transmission gives me. I would be curious to test the B9 A4 with manual , but a 2.0L TFSI it will never be a 3.0 supercharged . And if the B9 S4 will be only auto I see no point buying it - rather get Allroad, SQ5 or Q5 TDI Sline plus. Not always the next generation car is a better car ...

[VipinLJ]

This should be only in Canada , but I doubt it . The official press release in the USA clearly stated it will be with Ultra Quattro:
https://www.audiusa.com/newsroom/new...l-transmission

PS: I've recently bough a 15' S4 with manual, sport diff, cabin trim, BO sound etc. and very low miles. Few weeks ago I took it for oil change and alignment check.It was Friday afternoon the Audi dealership gave me a B9 A4 as loaner to drive over the weekend. After driving it quite a bit I can attest it is fats - almost as bast as the B8/8.5 S4 , but with that everything positive ends . The B9 A4 felt sterile and dull , no steering feedback , suspension - I didn't like how it corners. Interior also felt sterile and Tesla like. I like how the B8/B8.5 is wrapping me and how the dash is organised . I don't care how fast it is it will never give me the joy , that my 15' S4 with manual transmission gives me. I would be curious to test the B9 A4 with manual , but a 2.0L TFSI it will never be a 3.0 supercharged . And if the B9 S4 will be only auto I see no point buying it - rather get Allroad, SQ5 or Q5 TDI Sline plus. Not always the next generation car is a better car ...

Yup. That 3.0tfsi is a lovely lovely engine. And the S4 is definitely faster. No doubt. But for a 2.0, the B9 is amazing. Especially compared to the B8/8.5 A4. And the interiors. I guess, like I've said many times before, to each his own. I can feel the age even when I get into my A7. The B8.5 A4 also feels ancient to me. But my B9 feels fresh. But it could just be me and there are many others who prefer the old interior to the new one. And yes. The new B9 drives much better than the old B8.5. That's for sure.

[RudyH]

This should be only in Canada , but I doubt it . The official press release in the USA clearly stated it will be with Ultra Quattro:
https://www.audiusa.com/newsroom/new...l-transmission

Actually I went onto the Audi US web site, and it's true!!! The builder does state for the 6MT "Six-speed manual transmission and quattro® all-wheel drive with ultra technology". Including the article I always assumed was correct.

Audi Canada web site says for the 6MT : "With quattro, optimal power delivery to each wheel is managed automatically and continuously for superior handling and phenomenal grip – even in less than perfect driving conditions."

Audi Canada web site says for the allroad / Q5 : "The quattro system’s intelligent control works predictively and reactively, utilizing an array of sensors that continually analyze driving dynamics, road conditions and driver behaviour. As a result, the quattro all-wheel drive system is always on the ready, yet deactivated when not necessary, to aid in more efficient fuel consumption."

"The quattro all-wheel drive provides an optimal distribution of the drive torque between the front and rear axles based on driving status, road characteristics and the driver’s personal driving style."

Unfortunately, Audi Canada is pretty much a call center...I can confirm via e-mail though as news releases are hard to find. The sales person and the Audi Canada rep both told me that the allroad and Q5 are the only two that get ultra Quattro for now. It might be worthwhile for those couple Canadian enthusiasts looking for true Quattro?

[Needforspeed502]

Any word on Avants with the manual? I'm guessing still no?

[faze]

Picking mine up at the dealership tonight =)
2017 A4 Premium Plus (Progressiv in Canada) in Daytona Grey Pearl with 6-speed manual transmission
S line Sports Package (Canada)
- 19" 5-V-spoke design wheels with titanium finish
- Sport suspension
- Front sports seats
- Black headliner
- Stainless steel pedals
- Brushed aluminum inlays
- Power lumbar for driver and passenger seat
- Flat-bottomed 3-spoke multifunction steering wheel
- S line exterior
- S line interior and exterior badging
- S line stainless steel door sills

[audinator]

^ wow, stunning!

[Dazman63]

Can you post some pictures?

[faze]

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[mishka97]

Hey stick B9 owners, how is it - 3 years later?

[misanorotrs4]

Hey stick B9 owners, how is it - 3 years later?

Rock solid, 60k KMs, 20+ Track Days, Stage 2 with more supporting mods than it needs. And completely redone suspension thanks to 034Motorsport.

Clutch is slipping and can't handle the Stage 2 torque though, it's the only negative of my experience.

[mishka97]

Rock solid, 60k KMs, 20+ Track Days, Stage 2 with more supporting mods than it needs. And completely redone suspension thanks to 034Motorsport.

Clutch is slipping and can't handle the Stage 2 torque though, it's the only negative of my experience.

Woahhhhhh stage 2 sounds insane. I'm trying to find a stock one in the US right now.

[KompressorLOgic]

I've had my 17 manual for close to a year now and really enjoy it.
It took a few months of looking for the right one for me to pull the trigger, I ended up having to purchase from out of state all the way across the country to find exactly what I was looking for.

[KompressorLOgic]

Rock solid, 60k KMs, 20+ Track Days, Stage 2 with more supporting mods than it needs. And completely redone suspension thanks to 034Motorsport.

Clutch is slipping and can't handle the Stage 2 torque though, it's the only negative of my experience.

I'm looking to do stage 1 or 2 this summer, let us know what you find for an upgraded clutch as that's something I'd like to look into as well to hold the power better.

[misanorotrs4]

I'm looking to do stage 1 or 2 this summer, let us know what you find for an upgraded clutch as that's something I'd like to look into as well to hold the power better.

So far only Clutchmasers makes a full kit with a steel flywheel. I’m having SouthBend upgrade an OEM clutch and pressure plate to hold more power. I’m not down with a steel flywheel.


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[mishka97]

I've had my 17 manual for close to a year now and really enjoy it.
It took a few months of looking for the right one for me to pull the trigger, I ended up having to purchase from out of state all the way across the country to find exactly what I was looking for.

How much did you end up paying? How many miles? I'm really hoping to find a private seller, but it is virtually impossible /: