Thinking of buying a used 2013 RS5, feedback will be great!

[behappy]

Hi guys, just joined the forum and I've been eyeing on a RS5 for a few weeks. I came across a used one locally for about $45k with approx 40k miles. While I'm currently doing research, I wanted to get some feedback such as possible resale-value, (I may only keep it until right before the rumored next generation comes out in a couple years), and some maintenance expectations and if the price itself used is good?


-Your possible future RS5 owner

[mikron2]

I haven't looked for a while, but that price sounds a little high. In March I paid $56k for a 2013 with 14,300 miles on it. After another year, the announcement of the new model, with that mileage, I'd expect it to be a little less. Again, it's been a while since I looked but the price initially sounds high to me.

Outside of that, I'd check the break pads and rotors to find out if/when they've been replaced since there have been issues with the Audi rotors. I'd also see if you can find out if any carbon buildup has been cleaned. Besides that, there's just the regular maintenance.


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[JoshDub]

This guy was not impressed

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...y-the-Audi-RS5

[behappy]

I haven't looked for a while, but that price sounds a little high. In March I paid $56k for a 2013 with 14,300 miles on it. After another year, the announcement of the new model, with that mileage, I'd expect it to be a little less. Again, it's been a while since I looked but the price initially sounds high to me.

Outside of that, I'd check the break pads and rotors to find out if/when they've been replaced since there have been issues with the Audi rotors. I'd also see if you can find out if any carbon buildup has been cleaned. Besides that, there's just the regular maintenance.


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Sweet, thanks for the info. I'm trying to see if they can go down lower than what they negotiated. Only knocked off a little from the asking price.

This guy was not impressed

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...y-the-Audi-RS5

I'm reading his thread right now, I'm actually now contemplating whether to see if the A6, used A7, S6, or S5 are all great cars and maybe not get the RS5. Low key, I really want that V8 though.

[namvar]

If you are serious about getting the next gen RS5 the NA V8 current version may not be the car you want. Read through the thread josh posted. a Stage II modified S5 may be a closer match to the next gen RS5 model. I am not an expert though but there are a few members on that thread that may be able to give you better advice.

[behappy]

I just test drove a few more cars today, one being a used 2011 S5 (to compare with the RS5). Definitely a difference, but now the question is if the S5 V8 or the Newer v6T S5 is better if I had to decide from those and RS5 was out of the picture. I really enjoy the sound of the V8..

[JamesRS5]

Personally I'd wait for the next generation as I would be worried the residuals on the current RS5 will start to fall as the next gen car gets closer to its release date. It gives you a year to save towards it so you can tick some more options boxes......CCB's being a must have on that options list.

[JoshDub]

I bought the prefacelift S5 for the V8 (6mt). Sure the 3.0t is faster, but that V8. Also for the price difference you could always buy a JHM supercharger.

[LordMagnet]

I just test drove a few more cars today, one being a used 2011 S5 (to compare with the RS5). Definitely a difference, but now the question is if the S5 V8 or the Newer v6T S5 is better if I had to decide from those and RS5 was out of the picture. I really enjoy the sound of the V8..

Not to knock the V8 S5, I too considered V8 vs V6T but that V8 sound is really the only thing it has over the B8.5's V6T. Some people also prefer the look of the B8 over the B8.5 but that's hugely subjective (I had a B8 and I prefer the B8.5's look). The V6 is lighter, faster in stock form, more modable (unless you go forced induction on that V8 you aren't going to make much gains beyond stock, while a 5 minute flash on the V6 will net you over 100 hp (I was sitting at about 458 chp with tune/intake/exhaust)), more reliable, better fuel economy. And I think the V6 with an aftermarket exhaust sounds amazing, but it certainly won't be on the same level as the V8 with an aftermarket exhaust.

So after all of that, if the V8 sound is still your top priority, then definitely go with the V8.

[behappy]

Would you guys have a rough idea how much you think it'd drop from its current sell price of $45k after about a 1.5 years? I was thinking of just keeping it around for roughly 1.5-2yrs. Even with the new RS5 generation expected to release, probably wouldn't get it as the price tag since it might be out of my range.The car's in CA so if the bottom line is the price isn't that great in your guys' opinion, I'll strongly take it into advise and pass on it.

[JamesRS5]

I think the price is a little on the high side, I know it's not really an accurate comparison but here's one for sale in my neighbourhood:

https://dubai.dubizzle.com/motors/us...hlighted_ads=1

Year: 2014
Price: $48500
Mileage: 26,000
BBS wheels, Eventuri Intake, Awe Exhaust and a rose on the steering wheel (not sure if that's included in the sale)

This is a well looked after Gulf spec car with all the options. You could ship it for $2000.

[behappy]

I haven't looked for a while, but that price sounds a little high. In March I paid $56k for a 2013 with 14,300 miles on it. After another year, the announcement of the new model, with that mileage, I'd expect it to be a little less. Again, it's been a while since I looked but the price initially sounds high to me.

Outside of that, I'd check the break pads and rotors to find out if/when they've been replaced since there have been issues with the Audi rotors. I'd also see if you can find out if any carbon buildup has been cleaned. Besides that, there's just the regular maintenance.


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This guy was not impressed

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...y-the-Audi-RS5

I think the price is a little on the high side, I know it's not really an accurate comparison but here's one for sale in my neighbourhood:

https://dubai.dubizzle.com/motors/us...hlighted_ads=1

Year: 2014
Price: $48500
Mileage: 26,000
BBS wheels, Eventuri Intake, Awe Exhaust and a rose on the steering wheel (not sure if that's included in the sale)

This is a well looked after Gulf spec car with all the options. You could ship it for $2000.

That is actually a good deal. I think it'd be too much hassle to import over to CA lol. That rose on the steering almost sold me though

[doug97gxe]

I bought the prefacelift S5 for the V8 (6mt). Sure the 3.0t is faster, but that V8. Also for the price difference you could always buy a JHM supercharger.

i'm going to take HMS advice so here goes on my opinion

Performance wise B8 S5 6 MT with JHM Supercharger is best bet. You could see as much as 1000 hp if the trans and drive train hold and the motor is built.. This my fav.. i'm a performance guy
Stock Appearance wise RS5
Fuel Economy with Performance wise B8.5 S5
Sleeper Effect wise B8.5 S-Line A5 with upgraded Turbo's

[LordMagnet]

i'm going to take HMS advice so here goes on my opinion

Performance wise B8 S5 6 MT with JHM Supercharger is best bet. You could see as much as 1000 hp if the trans and drive train hold and the motor is built.. This my fav.. i'm a performance guy
Stock Appearance wise RS5
Fuel Economy with Performance wise B8.5 S5
Sleeper Effect wise B8.5 S-Line A5 with upgraded Turbo's

You've come a long way in the past few days, Doug! Haha. Anyways, why didn't you go the V8 supercharged route?

[doug97gxe]

You've come a long way in the past few days, Doug! Haha. Anyways, why didn't you go the V8 supercharged route?

i was jaded after my Twin Turbo 350z and wanted a brand new car with warranty that already had FI with Manual Transmission that i would only do rims and subwoofer, i was going to buy an M4 but my wife convinced me instead of keeping my F150 and buying the m4 to just get the RS5.. well that didn't last long.. I did stage 2 but i'm holding myself back from going DP because i will have to do clutch and cooling system and i know if i cross that bridge i'm putting myself back into deep modding like i did with the Z

[mufflerman]

May be wrong but I believe that eventually the current RS5 will hold its value. There is something to be said for n NA V8 that you don't need to upshift until nearly 9K RPM. It will be one of the last hi rev high horsepower V8's (without forced induction) in production and it truly is a masterpiece of an engine. Look at what has happened to the manual transmission Ferraris, once the third pedal became unavailable from Ferrari as a new car the used ones started gaining value.

[doug97gxe]

May be wrong but I believe that eventually the current RS5 will hold its value. There is something to be said for n NA V8 that you don't need to upshift until nearly 9K RPM. It will be one of the last hi rev high horsepower V8's (without forced induction) in production and it truly is a masterpiece of an engine. Look at what has happened to the manual transmission Ferraris, once the third pedal became unavailable from Ferrari as a new car the used ones started gaining value.

hold its value going forward? you can already get them half of the cost of what they were brand new .. its one thing for rarity .. its another thing for supply and demand. I don't think the demand for the RS5 will allow the value to rise or stay the same

[namvar]

i was jaded after my Twin Turbo 350z and wanted a brand new car with warranty that already had FI with Manual Transmission that i would only do rims and subwoofer, i was going to buy an M4 but my wife convinced me instead of keeping my F150 and buying the m4 to just get the RS5.. well that didn't last long.. I did stage 2 but i'm holding myself back from going DP because i will have to do clutch and cooling system and i know if i cross that bridge i'm putting myself back into deep modding like i did with the Z

Doug, I have to say, there are days that I enjoy driving my '95 twin turbo 300zx more than my RS5. and yes it has upgraded intakes, ECU but not the exhaust.

[doug97gxe]

Doug, I have to say, there are days that I enjoy driving my '95 twin turbo 300zx more than my RS5. and yes it has upgraded intakes, ECU but not the exhaust.

If it was running I wouldn't felt that way but going through 2 motors and the current one was on its way out I had enough .. of ur 300 is still in top shape Z I'm sure it's a blast to drive


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[mikron2]

May be wrong but I believe that eventually the current RS5 will hold its value. There is something to be said for n NA V8 that you don't need to upshift until nearly 9K RPM. It will be one of the last hi rev high horsepower V8's (without forced induction) in production and it truly is a masterpiece of an engine. Look at what has happened to the manual transmission Ferraris, once the third pedal became unavailable from Ferrari as a new car the used ones started gaining value.

I've been thinking along the same line, which is why I ended up being ok with buying earlier this year when I found a deal I was comfortable with. I don't think they'll increase in value like the Ferraris or anything like that, but I don't see the price falling out even after the new model comes out because of the NA high revving V8. They'll likely still lose value, but I'm hoping that it will be slower than normal and not another 50% drop in price like where they're at now. Outside of high mileage/salvage rebuilds, I really don't see a used RS5 going for $25-$30k in the near future.


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[HMS]

i'm going to take HMS advice so here goes on my opinion

Performance wise B8 S5 6 MT with JHM Supercharger is best bet. You could see as much as 1000 hp if the trans and drive train hold and the motor is built.. This my fav.. i'm a performance guy
Stock Appearance wise RS5
Fuel Economy with Performance wise B8.5 S5
Sleeper Effect wise B8.5 S-Line A5 with upgraded Turbo's

Dougystylez! Ayyy. OP, Lots of good points made here and I do agree that RS is a bit on the high side of things (for that money get a 996 turbo and lets be turbo buddies)

For reference, I got m RS with 50K on the clock for 43K and this was a black optics package with the full doodads and gizmos.

I'd say pass unless it's that dubai RS cause that Rose has gotta add at least 10whp.

[behappy]

If in about 1.5-2yrs it only dropped maybe about 5-10k, I think that's feasible. Going under 30k would suck. This might be a bad example, but being a lexus owner, I periodically check the ISF and they do tend to fluctuate in value, so maybe it'll be the same situation.

doug97gxe - I value your opinion and make good points as I've read the other threads where there was huge debates over S5 and RS5. Whether I get the S5 or RS5, I'll probably do only minor modifications as I'm over the heavy modding days. This being said, if I get the S5 lets say, then at best just suspension and exhaust. RS5, possibly same thing, which means that it would just come down to fun factor based on similar modifications.

My biggest concern is really the residual value, as the nex gen hasn't been confirmed yet.

[MBM6F]

I'm also looking at an RS5, further down the road...

Last Audi was a B7 S4 DTM and I loved it, only bad thing about those were the timing chains. Does the RS5 have any "when not if" downfalls like that car did? I've since had a C63 and M, but I swear the overall quality of the Audi was better even if it was substantially slower. Also, loved the looks and AWD.

[PEM]

That price may or may not be good depending on how loaded it is with options. IE Black optics, mmi+. driver's assist, CCB, etc. If it is loaded, I actually consider it a pretty decently priced RS.

[Vanimal]

I'm also looking at an RS5, further down the road...

Last Audi was a B7 S4 DTM and I loved it, only bad thing about those were the timing chains. Does the RS5 have any "when not if" downfalls like that car did? I've since had a C63 and M, but I swear the overall quality of the Audi was better even if it was substantially slower. Also, loved the looks and AWD.

I'd love to get a 08-11 ish C63 or a e90/e92 M3 as a second vehicle. Current DD is a 2010 S5 with the 4.2L V8. What a great DD, looks,sound, interior quality. Not the fastest but gets me to point A-B in good time with its 355hp. Cars just reliable in weather as well.

Browsing the c63 & M3's I'm not sure I can justify the price for them at their age. A w204 C63 goes for about $20-28k with "decent mileage". E9* M3 goes for even more! Low to mid 30's for 08-10. I know the c63 will be a hell of a good around town car with its massive torque. But at the same time both will be a step back in the interior department. I try and look at the overall package.

I thought about maybe going with a few years older e55 AMG as a grocery getter/4 door family hauler toy. Those make massive power with their V8 Supercharged motor. Look pretty sweet for a mid 2000 vehicle. I've seen those go for anywhere from
$10-18k ish.


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[MBM6F]

DO NOT get a 63 with the early M156, I think they fixed it in 11... the early ones had faulty head bolts that would fail and cause catastrophic engine failure. The way MB handled it made me lose a lot of faith in that brand. When I contacted them to find out if mine was in the vin range of cars with the early head bolts they told me there was no issue and that they never revised them which is a blatant lie. Had 2 faulty steering locks that were also an issue and MB refused to help or acknowledge that there was an issue - even on the second one. MB wanted 15k to do head bolts and they charged me $1500 for the first ESL and $1200 for the second one... and the ESL can ONLY be done by dealers. I love the W205 but MB may have lost a customer for good after that.

I know the B7 had its timing chain issues, but Audi was always better to deal with and I think that the fact that I took exceptional care of mine helped prevent it, because I had zero chain rattle at 75k. The MB issues were totally out of my control. I'd honestly keep the S5. I wish Audi would up the power on the S and RS vehicles to make them more competitive.

[MBM6F]

Apology for thread hijack... get an RS5

[doug97gxe]

Apology for thread hijack... get an RS5

My vote as well it checks all his boxes


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[behappy]

That price may or may not be good depending on how loaded it is with options. IE Black optics, mmi+. driver's assist, CCB, etc. If it is loaded, I actually consider it a pretty decently priced RS.

From What I can see and based on their info, it has navigation plus package, voice command, audi connect, rear view cam,b&o system (guessing this is all included in the nav+ option), drive assist, titanium package, sport exhaust, matte aluminum optic package, 20" 5-arm wheels .

Is there a link or site that explains all the options? Only thing I found was order guide in one of the threads.

[PEM]

From what you mentioned, it looks it's the only missing the Black Optics package and CCB. You choose between titanium or black optics I believe so really the only major check box unchecked is the CCB. You are correct with the B&O being lumped with the navigation+. Looks like a pretty fair price IMO

Wow Doug you've turned a new leaf! haha

[doug97gxe]

From what you mentioned, it looks it's the only missing the Black Optics package and CCB. You choose between titanium or black optics I believe so really the only major check box unchecked is the CCB. You are correct with the B&O being lumped with the navigation+. Looks like a pretty fair price IMO

Wow Doug you've turned a new leaf! haha

Same leaf just not providing ammo for others with hidden agendas


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[mufflerman]

I've been thinking along the same line, which is why I ended up being ok with buying earlier this year when I found a deal I was comfortable with. I don't think they'll increase in value like the Ferraris or anything like that, but I don't see the price falling out even after the new model comes out because of the NA high revving V8. They'll likely still lose value, but I'm hoping that it will be slower than normal and not another 50% drop in price like where they're at now. Outside of high mileage/salvage rebuilds, I really don't see a used RS5 going for $25-$30k in the near future.


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This is what I meant speaking to value. I should have been more specific. In the short term I don't see the B8 RS5 taking any more significant depreciation related to the B9 coming out. I didn't mean it would go up, simply that it would be appreciated by purists who like the NA V8. Long term however, I think they will go up.

[Johnhanson]

This is what I meant speaking to value. I should have been more specific. In the short term I don't see the B8 RS5 taking any more significant depreciation related to the B9 coming out. I didn't mean it would go up, simply that it would be appreciated by purists who like the NA V8. Long term however, I think they will go up.

^ Just look at everyone who blows their load when an old RS4 pops up. My car is 4 years old and cars with more miles are selling for within 20k of the sticker. I have a friend who lost more trading in a 1.5 year old S5.

I'm talking out of my ass but you will lose less on a cpo RS5 then you will on any comparable car - barring catastrophic engine/tranny failure. Aside from a lot of brake problems these cars are turning out to be pretty bullet proof themselves. The depreciation has likely plateaued - even the B9 won't bring a dip as the styling is garbage, the audi cockpit is overrated, and while the engine should be amazing - the B8.5 will hold its value for the same reason people still love B8 S5s.

Find me another car that's more fun to drive in 4 seasons, as comfortable, looks better, sounds better, and still makes me smile after 4 years for under $150k and I'll buy it today.

This car is fucking awesome out of the box.




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[ICU2]

"Find me another car that's more fun to drive in 4 seasons, as comfortable, looks better, sounds better, and still makes me smile after 4 years for under $150k and I'll buy it today."

This car is fucking awesome out of the box.
+1




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[behappy]

Is there any benefit or can I take advantage of the remaining warranty on it's car? It's up to 50k I believe and there's pretty much 5k left before it does expire.

[pr1malr8ge]

i'm going to take HMS advice so here goes on my opinion

Performance wise B8 S5 6 MT with JHM Supercharger is best bet. You could see as much as 1000 hp if the trans and drive train hold and the motor is built.. This my fav.. i'm a performance guy
Stock Appearance wise RS5
Fuel Economy with Performance wise B8.5 S5
Sleeper Effect wise B8.5 S-Line A5 with upgraded Turbo's

One of the first times I think I'd agree with you.. The response was so much better then your others..

How ever The b8 s5 has some draw backs.. The Carbon issue with the v8. The cost alone vs depreciation is horrendous. How ever if you want the most power then it is truly your best bet.

I'm still in love with my b8.5 6mt.. I just wish I could hit 450-500 awhp and I'd be content. Wonder if that twincharged monster in the other thread can do those numbers with iat's low enough not to melt anything.

[ICU2]

Is there any benefit or can I take advantage of the remaining warranty on it's car? It's up to 50k I believe and there's pretty much 5k left before it does expire.

Correct, the New Car warranty is 3 yrs/50000 miles from the original date of "in service", meaning if the car was registered/purchased on 01 JAN 2013, the NC warranty would expire 01 JAN 2016 or 50,000 miles or which ever came 1st as an example. If a warranty is a concern, perhaps U should consider a CPO, a little more $ but a lot more peace of mind. My last 4 have all been CPO's since 2006 & ironically only needed it on the 2010 S5 Cab for the mechtronic/transmission, H2O pump & thermostat issue. The A6, S4 Cab & present RS5 Cab have been relatively trouble free but YMMV. Also, never a bad idea to have a PPI by a "trusted" mechanic/shop/Audi dealership PRIOR to purchase if not a CPO. BTW, CPO is 6yrs/100,000 miles from original "in service" date. 1st world problem, good luck & keep us posted

[doug97gxe]

Correct, the New Car warranty is 3 yrs/50000 miles from the original date of "in service", meaning if the car was registered/purchased on 01 JAN 2013, the NC warranty would expire 01 JAN 2016 or 50,000 miles or which ever came 1st as an example. If a warranty is a concern, perhaps U should consider a CPO, a little more $ but a lot more peace of mind. My last 4 have all been CPO's since 2006 & ironically only needed it on the 2010 S5 Cab for the mechtronic/transmission, H2O pump & thermostat issue. The A6, S4 Cab & present RS5 Cab have been relatively trouble free but YMMV. Also, never a bad idea to have a PPI by a "trusted" mechanic/shop/Audi dealership PRIOR to purchase if not a CPO. BTW, CPO is 6yrs/100,000 miles from original "in service" date. 1st world problem, good luck & keep us posted

i really admire Audi's CPO warranty... Mercedes is 2 years 24,000 miles after you bought the car so if you buy a CPO 2015 the warranty is to 2017 / 74,000 miles, BMW's was just as weird and was really a third party Warranty. With Audi if you buy a CPO 2015 with 10,000 miles that warranty will be to 2021 100,000/120,000 miles .. its almost better to buy a CPO 2015 with low miles than a brand new 2016

[mufflerman]

Correct, the New Car warranty is 3 yrs/50000 miles from the original date of "in service", meaning if the car was registered/purchased on 01 JAN 2013, the NC warranty would expire 01 JAN 2016 or 50,000 miles or which ever came 1st as an example. If a warranty is a concern, perhaps U should consider a CPO, a little more $ but a lot more peace of mind. My last 4 have all been CPO's since 2006 & ironically only needed it on the 2010 S5 Cab for the mechtronic/transmission, H2O pump & thermostat issue. The A6, S4 Cab & present RS5 Cab have been relatively trouble free but YMMV. Also, never a bad idea to have a PPI by a "trusted" mechanic/shop/Audi dealership PRIOR to purchase if not a CPO. BTW, CPO is 6yrs/100,000 miles from original "in service" date. 1st world problem, good luck & keep us posted

I believe the original bumper to bumper is 4 years or 50K whichever comes first. CPO cars are a good bet if you don't mind paying the dealer premium, dealers have to pay Audi NA for the warranty and then they add the mark up on it on top of the car. If you can find a car that still has its original bumper to bumper coverage (which is the best warranty hands down, more coverage than even the CPO), you can buy an aftermarket warranty for a lot less then if you were to purchase a warranty after the original coverage has expired. Think of it like health insurance, if you were to go to a new company the new company would be a lot more comfortable if you were coming out of current health coverage than starting from scratch, who knows what kind of issues they're inheriting with you.

[mufflerman]

^ Just look at everyone who blows their load when an old RS4 pops up. My car is 4 years old and cars with more miles are selling for within 20k of the sticker. I have a friend who lost more trading in a 1.5 year old S5.

I'm talking out of my ass but you will lose less on a cpo RS5 then you will on any comparable car - barring catastrophic engine/tranny failure. Aside from a lot of brake problems these cars are turning out to be pretty bullet proof themselves. The depreciation has likely plateaued - even the B9 won't bring a dip as the styling is garbage, the audi cockpit is overrated, and while the engine should be amazing - the B8.5 will hold its value for the same reason people still love B8 S5s.

Find me another car that's more fun to drive in 4 seasons, as comfortable, looks better, sounds better, and still makes me smile after 4 years for under $150k and I'll buy it today.

This car is fucking awesome out of the box.




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Agreed. I have made this point before here on the RS4 and its value.

It is interesting to me how many people here compare the RS5 to heavily modded A5's and S5's. The RS5 is a factory built high performance GT, not a programmed 4cyl or boosted V6 or standard V8. It wasn't meant to light everyones hair on fire with quarter mile stats and hazy burnouts. Just a really well balanced machine that does just about everything as well as a two door large coupe intended for grand touring style driving.

Don't get me wrong, I respect those of you that have extracted big power out of your cars, I am working on a 996 Turbo and aiming for over 700 hp. I just don't think comparing an entry level B8 car against the flagship model is appropriate, no matter how modded. With enough modification, anyone can make an Impreza as fast or faster than a stock STI, but it still isn't an STI. I'm not looking to poo poo the hot rodders here, I am one of them, just making a point that if someone is in the market and is willing to spend the money on the top line model, don't tell them to buy a different car and mod it to compare the two.