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    Tegra 3 MMI Upgrade in Pre-Facelift A6

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    Hi there, I have a 2014 A6 TDI and one of my major complaints with the car is how slow and clunky the MMI system in the vehicle is. As such I greatly want to upgrade the Tegra 3 based system that is present in the redesigned 2016 models. In that vein I went ahead and purchased the whole MMI assembly (CPU, DVD drive, SD/Sim card reader) used off of eBay and was hoping to swap it out. However there are a couple of issues with this plan, and so I am hoping that some of you fine folks will be able to help me out.

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    1) The primary roadblock that I am running into is that nobody seems to know how to do the swap. When I purchased the car it only came with one key, and so I used a an authorized independent repair shop near where I live in Georgia, Premier Auto Repair, to get a new one made. While I was there I asked them about upgrading my system and he said he would not feel comfortable doing it because he was not sure if he would be able to get it to work. As such I am hoping someone on here will already have done it and can give me some info on what needs to be done to swap one unit for the other. I have done parts searches and as far as I can tell most of the supporting components have remained the same. I know I will have to swap out the center screen since the newer cars use a larger 8" unit, but as far as I can tell the slot in the dash is the same and just the screen is slightly larger in the housing. I also checked on the center display and that seems to be the same between generations. However because there doesn't seem to be a complete parts list available online for the 2016 A6 I can't tell if anything else has changed or if I am going to need to swap out wiring harnesses or something as well.

    2) The used MMI components I bought came from a S7 I think that had the B&O sound system installed. Unfortunately my car only has the Bose system and I don't really want to have to swap out the whole stereo or go through some crazy adapters to get it to work. In looking at the systems assembly it appears to be very modular, and so I am hoping that the MMI mainboard pinouts have remained the same between iterations so that Audi can carry over parts from one generation as a means of reducing design and production costs. However I am not keen on pulling out my car's MMI system to check this for myself. As such I am hoping someone here will know: can you swap the assembly with the B&O output assembly to an MMI system that has the Bose outputs?

    I know the rear faceplate is going to be different, but I am hoping the interior boards are modular. I am also assuming that Audi's engineers did not decide to reinvent the wheel and recycled the same enclosure and just changed the interior components. Worse comes to worse I can always adapt out the audio outputs if need be, but I hoped I would not have to deal with that.


    Thanks in advance for any advice or thoughts you might have! :)

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    Interesting post! Let me know how it goes because I was thinking of doing the same thing.


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    Well, my first thought is that all the original parts are coded to your car, so if you swap them out with the replacement parts, your going to have to get the dealer to code them to your car.

    This is not something you can do with VCDS. Component protection can only be configured at the dealer, as it has to connected to the centralised brain in Germany.

    My other comment is that l went from a 2014 A7 to a 2016 S7, and other than the LTE module making Google maps faster, and the centre dash navigation map, l honestly didn't find a huge difference between the two.

    I don't think the B&O will cause an issue, lm pretty sure l read there is a software selection for whatever speaker system your running.

    However, l don't think anyone (outside of the dealer) has been able to get into the new generation MMI configuration menu.

    Cudos to you for trying though, l know a few people have talked about it, but l don't know anyone who has achieved it so far!

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    I searched on this when I bought my 14 A6 few months back but couldn't find much details. let us know how it goes.


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    Hi,

    I just saw your post.
    I've done a lot of research about this and i can say that it is possible.

    My new MIB II system is ready to be retrofitted. I will donit this weekend.
    On monday i go to the dealer cause only they can code it with your VIN.
    Just as said above, it must be connected with Audi servers in Germany. This probably because of functions like audi connect.

    I have the new big screen, a new control panel, the MIB unit with audi connect and sim card and maybe the most important thing: a new gateway.

    This is because the gateway of the pre facelift a6 can't communicate with the new MIB system.
    Also the new gateway has the famous phone integration ( Carplay in my instance).

    I will let you know how the retrofit was done. I will put it on my blog and maybe will post it here on the forum.

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    Yeah definitely let me know if you were able to get it to work or if you ran into issues. I am very eager to swap out the unit in my car, but can't do it until someone else figures it out lol. Any information you have to share would be greatly appreciated! (Sorry for the delay in replying, I told it to notify me of any replies and I forgot to check back :(.)

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    Hi,

    The unit is already installed into my car with the new gateway. Also ran some CAN cables cause the new MMI uses CAN to FIS and the MMI screen. The unit is playing but the screen doesn't come out and controls are not working now.
    Went to the Audi dealer to make the CAN gateway protection free but they didn't managed to get it work.
    I have a look at it on Monday to find the issue. I think it's someting with the component protection.
    I will post when i know something more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Los Cuentos View Post
    Hi,

    The unit is already installed into my car with the new gateway. Also ran some CAN cables cause the new MMI uses CAN to FIS and the MMI screen. The unit is playing but the screen doesn't come out and controls are not working now.
    Went to the Audi dealer to make the CAN gateway protection free but they didn't managed to get it work.
    I have a look at it on Monday to find the issue. I think it's someting with the component protection.
    I will post when i know something more.

    Thanks for the update man. Yeah, I am going to have to buy more parts it seems. I did not realize that you had to switch out so much stuff. Looks much more complicated than I had imagined. I hope you can get it to work. It would be no fun to go through all of that time and expense just to have it fail on you for some stupid reason.

    If you could, when you get a chance, could you put together a parts list of everything that needs to be swapped?

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    Quote Originally Posted by andrewnprice View Post
    Thanks for the update man. Yeah, I am going to have to buy more parts it seems. I did not realize that you had to switch out so much stuff. Looks much more complicated than I had imagined. I hope you can get it to work. It would be no fun to go through all of that time and expense just to have it fail on you for some stupid reason.

    If you could, when you get a chance, could you put together a parts list of everything that needs to be swapped?
    It is possible. I saw a video from Elebest on youtube who managed to get this work so it is possible.
    You just need the following:

    - MIB II headunit
    - new bigger screen
    - controls for the console in the center ( if you don't have the touch yet)
    - CAN gateway from a facelift model
    - bridge to connect the old optical wire that runs to the CAN gateway. (New one only uses CAN cables)
    - 4 repair wires ( to solder from FIS to unit and from unit to screen)
    That's all you need for parts
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    Quote Originally Posted by Los Cuentos View Post
    It is possible. I saw a video from Elebest on youtube who managed to get this work so it is possible.
    You just need the following:

    - MIB II headunit
    - new bigger screen
    - controls for the console in the center ( if you don't have the touch yet)
    - CAN gateway from a facelift model
    - bridge to connect the old optical wire that runs to the CAN gateway. (New one only uses CAN cables)
    - 4 repair wires ( to solder from FIS to unit and from unit to screen)

    That's all you need for parts
    Alright I will check that out. The guy I was talking to about doing this said he had heard talk about people doing it, but he just was not sure what all would be required and he was not comfortable tearing apart my whole dash if he wasn't sure he could get the new MMI system to work. My car already has the touch interface so that should simplify things I hope. Do you happen to have the part numbers for the CAN gateway and the bridge to connect the optical wires to it? (Not sure if the latter is an Audi part or not.)

    Sorry to keep asking so much of you, I just want to make sure I get the right parts. This is my first time doing any mods on an Audi\VW so I am a bit nervous about making sure everything works properly.

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    That's no problem for me. I will have a look tomorrow. But I already can say that all part are genuine from Audi. Also the bridge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Los Cuentos View Post
    That's no problem for me. I will have a look tomorrow. But I already can say that all part are genuine from Audi. Also the bridge.
    Thank you sir, I will see if I can find the part numbers but I will wait until I see yours to purchase anything. I want to make sure I get the right items. I appreciate you keeping me informed on everything, and please feel free to share any details or gotchas you run into along the way. I am very excited that someone else is trying this, and can't wait to do this with my own car :).

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    Hi there and greetings from Finland. I made this MMI High MIB2 (from MMI low) retrofit four weeks ago to A6 Avant 2016 with changing following components:
    Main Unit 4G1 035 044 D
    Display 4G1 919 601 J
    Display 4G5 919 607 D (8")
    Controller: 4G1 919 610 F

    Currently I'm having problems to activate instrument cluster map, everything else works now properly. According to my car electrician he couldn't find the correct MIB2 adaptation codes for the cluster.

    Have anybody investigated this part of retrofit issue yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by saaari View Post
    Hi there and greetings from Finland. I made this MMI High MIB2 (from MMI low) retrofit four weeks ago to A6 Avant 2016 with changing following components:
    Main Unit 4G1 035 044 D
    Display4G1 919 601 J
    Display4G5 919 607 D (8")
    Controller: 4G1 919 610 F

    Currently I'm having problems to activate instrument cluster map, everything else works now properly. According to my car electrician he couldn't find the correct MIB2 adaptation codes for the cluster.

    Have anybody investigated this part of retrofit issue yet?
    Have installed 2016 cluster?
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    Well my car is year model 2016, therefore the cluster should by applicable automatically to MIB2 and to the new HW for just choosing the instrument cluster map option in MMI, but in spite of this the map is not visible behind the steering wheel with some reason. According to the dealer the connection is most propably missing new adaptation codes (?) Now the cluster shows only compass instead navigation map from main unit.

    I'v seen some thread discussions that the problem might be with MMI 3G hidden green menu instrument cluster mapping, even Audi dealer is not aware how to solve this currently due to latest MIB2 model applicable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saaari View Post
    Well my car is year model 2016, therefore the cluster should by applicable automatically to MIB2 and to the new HW for just choosing the instrument cluster map option in MMI, but in spite of this the map is not visible behind the steering wheel with some reason. According to the dealer the connection is most propably missing new adaptation codes (?) Now the cluster shows only compass instead navigation map from main unit.

    I'v seen some thread discussions that the problem might be with MMI 3G hidden green menu instrument cluster mapping, even Audi dealer is not aware how to solve this currently due to latest MIB2 model applicable.
    Strange.


    Just got my MIB II working in my Pre Facelift A6. But also don't have the map in the cluster.
    Must have an other cluster with more pixels.
    There is no option in the hidden green menu cause i looked in it today. Only diagnostics mode is available atm.
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    Question is how Elebest and all other retrofit companies succeeded to built MIB2 cluster connection both 2014 and 2016 year model A6 in their Youtube videos? I tried to get this answer from Elebest with negative responce to help. I don't believe that the issue is with the cluster itself. There is currently so many different enterprises doing these changes succesfully and nobody has confirmed any such issues. even Elebest has succeeded to built connection is 2014 C7.

    Also Kufatec in Germany have built own set:

    https://www.kufatec.de/shop/en/audi/...uch-audi-a6-4g

    OEM eftermontering (Sweden):

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUqC1CsvVqU

    Strange indeed. Any clues ?
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    The question is if elebest uses a new cluster or the same old one...
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    I called to Kufatec and they don't change the cluster, only main screen, touchpad and main unit. Also same story in Elebest A6 Avant Youtube video.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saaari View Post
    I called to Kufatec and they don't change the cluster, only main screen, touchpad and main unit. Also same story in Elebest A6 Avant Youtube video.
    Hmm interested. The question now is how they did it work.
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    Hi. I was following your thread and as I am owner of a 2015 facelift A6 with MMI Radio Plus without Navi waiting for 2 years to find this retrofit available. I have discussed as well with some retrofitters including Kufatec last December as soon as they had the retrofit available for the facelift cars. What I wanted was a MIB2 retrofit (for speed, graphics, latest software)/ maps in the instrument cluster/ possibility of later ad-on of CarPlay (as I understood that the MIB2 hardware can offer this).
    The answers I have so far:
    1. Kufatec did not guarantee that their kit include MIB2! Do you know if there is also a MIB1 for Audi A6???
    2. Maps are available in all FL clusters. FL models with monochrome cluster need to change the cluster. Otherwise should work. (One retrofitted even told me that maps can be even available in non FL cars equipped with MMI3g+ by upgrading the cluster only)> As I have a FL car, I was happy that maps should be easily available (but from Saaari's post it might not be like that)
    3. CarPlay might be added but only to MIB 2, not available so far (again MIB2).

    I was planning to buy the kit from Kufatec, but since they couldn't guarantee a MIB2 unit, I have postponed my idea to get more info.
    I also need to find a local specialist as the Audi dealer doesn't want to get involved.

    I will keep a close eye on your thread, as I am kin to do it as well, but there is not so much precise info on that.

    Maybe you can at least help me with an answer regarding MIB1 vs MIB2. And is there any resolution difference between pre FL 8 Inch display and the FL 8 inch display?

    Thank you and good luck on making it work! I will let you know if I find a specific answer to the cluster problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alecs View Post
    Hi. I was following your thread and as I am owner of a 2015 facelift A6 with MMI Radio Plus without Navi waiting for 2 years to find this retrofit available. I have discussed as well with some retrofitters including Kufatec last December as soon as they had the retrofit available for the facelift cars. What I wanted was a MIB2 retrofit (for speed, graphics, latest software)/ maps in the instrument cluster/ possibility of later ad-on of CarPlay (as I understood that the MIB2 hardware can offer this).
    The answers I have so far:
    1. Kufatec did not guarantee that their kit include MIB2! Do you know if there is also a MIB1 for Audi A6???
    2. Maps are available in all FL clusters. FL models with monochrome cluster need to change the cluster. Otherwise should work. (One retrofitted even told me that maps can be even available in non FL cars equipped with MMI3g+ by upgrading the cluster only)> As I have a FL car, I was happy that maps should be easily available (but from Saaari's post it might not be like that)
    3. CarPlay might be added but only to MIB 2, not available so far (again MIB2).

    I was planning to buy the kit from Kufatec, but since they couldn't guarantee a MIB2 unit, I have postponed my idea to get more info.
    I also need to find a local specialist as the Audi dealer doesn't want to get involved.

    I will keep a close eye on your thread, as I am kin to do it as well, but there is not so much precise info on that.

    Maybe you can at least help me with an answer regarding MIB1 vs MIB2. And is there any resolution difference between pre FL 8 Inch display and the FL 8 inch display?

    Thank you and good luck on making it work! I will let you know if I find a specific answer to the cluster problem.

    Hi Alecs,

    1) As i known there is only the MIB 2 system but I can be wrong too. Can't tell you that 100% sure. But i think you only have the II, otherwise it is the MMI 3G+
    2) Still figuring out how to get the maps working into the cluster. Yesterday I sent a mail to the guys from Elebest. Hope I get an answer pretty soon. I 2 CAN wires to my cluster following the manual from Audi's tool Elsawin.
    3) Also still figuring out. But I can activate some adaption functions about the mirrorlink and carplay but the MIB doesn't show it. But it still needs an FW upgrade so i will have to look where I can get that FW.
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    Hi all,

    Please see link to see ETKA versioning of MIB1/MIB2 (depending on manufacturing date and installed (bought) accessories):

    http://nemiga.com/cat_spares/etka/audi/a6/798/035000/

    Display 4G5 919 607 D (8") is the high resolution version.

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    Good evening,

    Hmmm, interesting. I believe only the specified ones are mib2, so this means that same car, same generation, same year, can have a better hardware or not. All the devices I saw for sale on ebay were mib 2 (at least this was written). When I first asked Kufatec last year, they said they cannot guarantee mib1 or mib2. I believe for everyday use there is no difference, but for future fw upgrades, mib2 is more versatile. I am planning to order the full kit from Kufatec, as I am not so good specialist to do it myself.

    By the way, did you retroffit your AMI to the USB one?

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    Hi Alecs,

    I think (my own amateur opinion) you're right about the MIB1 vs MIB2 differences in real life, for future updates preferably MIB2 is favorable but as far as MIB2 adaptation codes seems to a real pain in the ass, nobody seems to know for time being correct process even having VCDS/ODIS tools available. This cluster issue for example, only few first retrofit companies are aware how to proceed, both with pre-facelif and facelift C7 A6 model retrofits.
    Hopefully some of the more knowledged other forum colleagues can advice about the coding issue (with instrument cluster) in near future, why even the Audi electricians don't know currently reason for the missing map visibility in the cluster.
    As far as pre-facelift and facelift models retrofitting is quit expensive currently in comparison with buying the goods as factory installed ones. The overall cost will propably come down when the main unit can be easily coded based on available adaptation codes in these kind in forums and wanted configuration by using available tools (VCDS/ODIS etc.).
    In my own case I just bought facelift rear highline reverse camera kit from Polish retfit company CarSystems.

    http://www.carsystems.pl/audi-a6-4g0...1b,id1819.html

    As far as the AMI USB model for MMI, I bought used module 4G0035736 from eBay but couln't find for time being the correct harness yet. The reverse camera and USB unit will be installed when the cable is available.
    I understood from Kufatec Germany that the CarPlay modification is available somewhere in March 2017.

    Hopefully everything goes ok with the MIB2 coding. After these changes the installed retrofit is exactly same as original factory installed one, execpt the Connect-option which I have but Audi-server in Germany doesn't grant access to retrofitted systems at least for time being.

    Ps. One issue as a advice to other A6 retrofitters. If your main unit will be changed from MMI low to MMI MIB2 high with SIM slot, you need to change also the roof antenna (with added GPS and radio cabeling) to get appropiate connection to 3G/4G through SIM card. The factory installed roof antenna is just fake cover without any connection to MMI. I bought GPS antenne (4G0035503E) version from eBay (40,00 EUR) and swapped the cover from factory installed one with original colour. Now the 4G connection is working with Google maps updates correctly with maximum speed.

    Advices, comments etc. are highly appreciated !!
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    Hi Saari,

    Regarding MIB1/MIB2: I did some google search on the codes from the link you sent. The only MIB1 was the one for Japan. All other codes (for which I found pictures on ebay seem to be MIB2). From what I know, MIB2 is the only one that can hopefully be retrofitted to CarPlay in the future. By the way, when I asked the info regarding carPlay at Kufatec, they said it is not going to be available (like never). We will see. It will be nice to be available in March and hope it won't need a new head unit as I already invested quite a lot.

    Meanwhile, I have ordered the kit from Kufatec. I will let you know what is inside (they said MIB2 including new AMI). It should work in the speedcluster as well. As soon as I receive it and have it installed, I will let you know. It should work, as they are professionals as far as I know and this is what they wrote to me black on white.

    Regarding GPS antenna: I red that there is an alternative antenna that can be mounted in dash with the same result. I didn'd quite understand, you just switched the new antenna with the old one? One local retrofitting specialist told me that wires need to be connected if I want the original antenna.

    Now, all this change of wires, was too much dismountling of car components? Besides the head unit, cluster, I suppose for AMI and camera some plastics and maybe carpet need to be taken away and put back? By the way, there is a cable kit for rear camera at Kufatec tailored by model at 89E.

    Regarding Connect: I think this is an issue that Audi wants it controlled. I wonder why when you buy a unit as part, from a car that is not in service anylonger for sure, you are not able just to take over the previous "ownership" in the Audi database. Maybe becouse they just don't want cars to be retrofitted. Even for an Audi A6 in 2017 it is incredible that there is still an option to buy it without at least this MIB2 unit. They still sell RMC. On the Kufatec kit for exaple, it sais only Google Earth and a limited numbers of functions form Connect are working.

    If CarPlay will be available Connect functions will not be interesting at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alecs View Post
    Hi Saari,

    Regarding MIB1/MIB2: I did some google search on the codes from the link you sent. The only MIB1 was the one for Japan. All other codes (for which I found pictures on ebay seem to be MIB2). From what I know, MIB2 is the only one that can hopefully be retrofitted to CarPlay in the future. By the way, when I asked the info regarding carPlay at Kufatec, they said it is not going to be available (like never). We will see. It will be nice to be available in March and hope it won't need a new head unit as I already invested quite a lot.

    Meanwhile, I have ordered the kit from Kufatec. I will let you know what is inside (they said MIB2 including new AMI). It should work in the speedcluster as well. As soon as I receive it and have it installed, I will let you know. It should work, as they are professionals as far as I know and this is what they wrote to me black on white.

    Regarding GPS antenna: I red that there is an alternative antenna that can be mounted in dash with the same result. I didn'd quite understand, you just switched the new antenna with the old one? One local retrofitting specialist told me that wires need to be connected if I want the original antenna.

    Now, all this change of wires, was too much dismountling of car components? Besides the head unit, cluster, I suppose for AMI and camera some plastics and maybe carpet need to be taken away and put back? By the way, there is a cable kit for rear camera at Kufatec tailored by model at 89E.

    Regarding Connect: I think this is an issue that Audi wants it controlled. I wonder why when you buy a unit as part, from a car that is not in service anylonger for sure, you are not able just to take over the previous "ownership" in the Audi database. Maybe becouse they just don't want cars to be retrofitted. Even for an Audi A6 in 2017 it is incredible that there is still an option to buy it without at least this MIB2 unit. They still sell RMC. On the Kufatec kit for exaple, it sais only Google Earth and a limited numbers of functions form Connect are working.

    If CarPlay will be available Connect functions will not be interesting at all.

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    Sounds great.

    Mine is working now but still don't have tha map in my cluster. Still figuring out. I ran 2 can cables to the cluster and i can select the map option but it only shows the compass.

    The original antennas from a mmi 3g+ with sim are located in the roof shark vin and in the rear bumper.
    I also red that it is possible to just connect a 3rd party antenna. One thing i'm sure about. You need an LTE antenna so minimum 2100Mhz otherwise it can blow things up inside the MIB i've heard from a friend who retrofits all things like this.
    I have the option Audi Connect but when i log in on myaudi it doesn't show me the options i want cause in the database from audi i don't have a MIB system.

    Good luck with the installation. It took me 5 hours to retrofit the full system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Los Cuentos View Post
    Sounds great.

    Mine is working now but still don't have tha map in my cluster. Still figuring out. I ran 2 can cables to the cluster and i can select the map option but it only shows the compass.

    The original antennas from a mmi 3g+ with sim are located in the roof shark vin and in the rear bumper.
    I also red that it is possible to just connect a 3rd party antenna. One thing i'm sure about. You need an LTE antenna so minimum 2100Mhz otherwise it can blow things up inside the MIB i've heard from a friend who retrofits all things like this.
    I have the option Audi Connect but when i log in on myaudi it doesn't show me the options i want cause in the database from audi i don't have a MIB system.

    Good luck with the installation. It took me 5 hours to retrofit the full system.
    Hi all,

    As far as antenna concerned, old factory installed one was only shark antenna without any cabeling connected, I bought original A6 C7 one from eBay and changed only original cover from old one. My technician installed proper cables to antenna from MMI and everything works as factory installed. Now you can see the 4G (LTE) roaming is in max level almost all time pending on of course on network.
    For the available new Kufatec set, they have coded the main unit with correct coding, this valuable info I'm missing now, correct VAS codes.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by saaari View Post
    Hi all,

    As far as antenna concerned, old factory installed one was only shark antenna without any cabeling connected, I bought original A6 C7 one from eBay and changed only original cover from old one. My technician installed proper cables to antenna from MMI and everything works as factory installed. Now you can see the 4G (LTE) roaming is in max level almost all time pending on of course on network.
    For the available new Kufatec set, they have coded the main unit with correct coding, this valuable info I'm missing now, correct VAS codes.......
    Do you have a partnumber of the cable? I can't find one on the part system from Audi. And does the map in cluster work?
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    Hi,

    Did your technician take away all the inner skin of the roof to connect the cables to the antenna?
    Can you see any sign of all the dismounting of the parts, eitheri in the desh or other parts? This is the only thing I am afraid of, that some parts might get loosen...

    Nevertheless, I will let you know as soon as the kit arrives. They said they need 3-4 weeks.. I wonder why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alecs View Post
    Hi,

    Did your technician take away all the inner skin of the roof to connect the cables to the antenna?
    Can you see any sign of all the dismounting of the parts, eitheri in the desh or other parts? This is the only thing I am afraid of, that some parts might get loosen...

    Nevertheless, I will let you know as soon as the kit arrives. They said they need 3-4 weeks.. I wonder why?
    They need to add all the adaptions so it is plug and play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saaari View Post
    Hi all,

    As far as antenna concerned, old factory installed one was only shark antenna without any cabeling connected, I bought original A6 C7 one from eBay and changed only original cover from old one. My technician installed proper cables to antenna from MMI and everything works as factory installed. Now you can see the 4G (LTE) roaming is in max level almost all time pending on of course on network.
    For the available new Kufatec set, they have coded the main unit with correct coding, this valuable info I'm missing now, correct VAS codes.......
    And how have you did connect the antenna cable to the mib cause the antenne connector on the MIB uses a double Fakra connection. Did u just us a Double fakra to singlz fakra loom?
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    Hi all,

    This antenna modification was done by my friend (car electrician), I need to ask. As far as I can remember it was quit straight forward case w/o problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saaari View Post
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    Hi all,

    This antenna modification was done by my friend (car electrician), I need to ask. As far as I can remember it was quit straight forward case w/o problems.
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    Hi all,

    My friend modified the double Fakra connection, that what he answered to me.

    I still have this question open with valuable info I'm missing, correct VAS codes... have you guys proceeded with your own projects ? Do you have map cluster visible ?

    Any additional info available ?

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    Hi Saari,

    I haven't figure it out yet. Pretty busy the last weeks. Hope to find some time soon so i can focus on it.

    Greetings
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    Hi Sari and Alecs,

    Today I installed a third party antenna and it is working. Even with LTE. The antenna is mounted with 3M double sided tape to the dash after the front windscreen.
    Now i do have connection with the internet I can't update, access Audi Connect. Keeps getting a connection error. The Maps from Google are working. Can you Saari access the Audi Connect menu and update?

    Greetings

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    Hi Maxime,

    I can now indeed access Connect, it's working as example searching through connect with petrol pricing, news bullets etc. and is really working fine (don't ask me why this is possible!). The connect started to work while we tried to activate (recode) the instrument cluster map last weekend with the car electrician. Also last weekend the reverse car camera unit was installed and activated with separate VAS code in 6C : 027502010201000300 (hexadecimal code). Also the main unit can be used as wifi access point through MMI and it works very well through LTE.
    One thing what was tested last week was also wifi connection to MMI using Apple 6S phone as music source, that test was also successful but the sound level was very low. It seems that the main unit needs to be coded with higher sound level separately through VDCS.

    Did you had success with instrument cluster map visibility ?, basically that is the last pending issue facing currently in addition with main unit fine tuning (sound levels, Google map updates and few other issues).

    Greeting,

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    Quote Originally Posted by saaari View Post
    Hi Maxime,

    I can now indeed access Connect, it's working as example searching through connect with petrol pricing, news bullets etc. and is really working fine (don't ask me why this is possible!). The connect started to work while we tried to activate (recode) the instrument cluster map last weekend with the car electrician. Also last weekend the reverse car camera unit was installed and activated with separate VAS code in 6C : 027502010201000300 (hexadecimal code). Also the main unit can be used as wifi access point through MMI and it works very well through LTE.
    One thing what was tested last week was also wifi connection to MMI using Apple 6S phone as music source, that test was also successful but the sound level was very low. It seems that the main unit needs to be coded with higher sound level separately through VDCS.

    Did you had success with instrument cluster map visibility ?, basically that is the last pending issue facing currently in addition with main unit fine tuning (sound levels, Google map updates and few other issues).

    Greeting,
    What have u changed from coding to get it work?
    No haven't succeeded to get the maps in my cluster yet. Still working on it.
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    Good evening,

    I finally received the package from Kufatec today. All components look very good, almost like new (some micro scratches almost not visible).
    Even they told me that in the package was the new USB AMI socket, it seems that it was a misunderstanding. Probably they reffered that the MIB has a new AMI socket. By the way, this is a MIB II unit and I still hope CarPlay is going to work with a later ad on if I have this new AMI cable and socket.

    I planed the installation for next week. It should be somehow plug and play plus component protection. I hope to get the answers for you from my electrical specialist on how you can get the map in the speedometer (of course, if mine will do this and we can find how)

    Regarding the Antenna, Kufatec said it was supposed to be mounted in the rear bumper, but it can be mounted in the dash as well.

    Now, let me ask you one advice:
    1. Should I try to find the ne AMI cable and the USB socket and wait to install them alltogether? do you think that there is a different hardware (cable) for the socket to work with carplay?
    2. I am planning to retrofit the reverse camera as well, but I didn't order it yet. Can I just connect the harness and mount it later on?
    My concern regarding taking out so many plastic components and then not fitting exactly when they put them back.

    I will come back with nws soon

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