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    Revo and only Revo

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    Considering Revo but every tuning thread gets hijacked in mud slinging about other tunes.

    I want to know how your Revo tune is working out... Especially long term users.

    Opinions.
    How many miles have you put on since tune?
    Any mechanical problems?
    Any CELs pop up?
    Stage 1 vs 1+ (pulley) experiences.
    6MT cars... How has the clutch held up?

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    What made u choose revo?

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    REVO's current files are safe. Neither 1 or 1+ have been known to cause any common problems, reliability issues, or CELs. Stage 1+ (pulley) gives more power and torque in the low-mid range as compared to stage 1, as well as more power up top. The clutch can hold the stage 2 power but it does not handle abuse well, so expect to upgrade if you're going to be launching the car.


    Quote Originally Posted by Badtoyz View Post
    What made u choose revo?
    ^^ You're going to get this question... All of the major tunes for the 3.0T are safe, and REVO lags behind GIAC/APR when it comes to performance.
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    Revo stg. 2+ user here (whatever you call it - tune + pulley + decat). No tune related issues in the last 25 000 km / 15 500 mi after the tune, and this is on a shitty Russian gas :)
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    revo stage 1+(tune & pulley UK ) here 6MT
    You can get away with the OE clutch,but you cant launch over 2Krpm so it seriously affects your 1/4 mil times (on the OE clutch I have managed a 12.2 @116.8mph)
    Not 1 issue in the last 10K miles, runs smooth as silk
    My run was done using a blend of ethanol & 99 RON fuel on the 100 RON UK map






    The above shows just how close the tunes are on the 6MT,shave a couple of tenths off my 60ft (different clutch will do that ) and it will be a high 11 IMO
    Also if you look at the mph you can see the revo is making great power too ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by xpoweruk View Post
    100 RON Octane x 0.95 = 95 AKI Octane
    Hello,

    What's this strange formula ? ;o)
    More seriously: AKI = (RON + MON)/2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mat@1975 View Post
    Hello,

    What's this strange formula ? ;o)
    More seriously: AKI = (RON + MON)/2

    Cheers,

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    Your right of course (copy n paste when tired = bad )
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    I was with Revo for 6 months, no reliability issues with the tune whatsoever other than the fact it changed something in my ECU and voided my factory warranty. Revo acknowledged it was 100% due to their tune (as it had also happened on a handful of their cars globally) and they gave me a refund.

    From my understanding, this is the fastest 1/4 mile time for a Revo car...

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    Surprised they issued a refund. It's common knowledge that tuning your car voids warrantee. I still has 2 years left on mine but said screw it and tuned it forfeiting my 2 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badtoyz View Post
    Surprised they issued a refund. It's common knowledge that tuning your car voids warrantee. I still has 2 years left on mine but said screw it and tuned it forfeiting my 2 years.

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    Well there are numerous APR and Revo Audi's in Australia with tunes who have not voided their warranty (officially). If the VAG ODIS system does not detect a tuning modification after flashing back to stock then you haven't really voided your warranty IMO.

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    That was pretty decent customer service them issuing a refund. Good to hear. Its happened to most of the tuners that the incorrect revision of the stock file was put back on the car and the person ended up TD1.


    To the OP, Revo is a well respected tuner. I'm sure you'll be happy.


    If you are obsessive about knowing the details of programming or are going to be trying to break records, I would be recommending first one of the other well regarded tuners, speaking specifically to this platform. Revo is the only tuner I am aware of right now on the 3.0TFSI that has chosen to focus on using timing to make power as opposed to boost.

    There is nothing immediately concerning about this but IMO it is a less safe (again, not immediately dangerous) and less reliable way to get the most power. You'll typically see some boost bleed on the Revo cars and slightly slower 1/4 mile times. This is likely NOT something that you would notice in everyday driving and does not appear to be anything that is currently causing significant reductions in reliability of engine components. The car will still make significantly more power than stock.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bhvrdr View Post
    To the OP, Revo is a well respected tuner. I'm sure you'll be happy.


    If you are obsessive about knowing the details of programming or are going to be trying to break records, I would be recommending first one of the other well regarded tuners, speaking specifically to this platform. Revo is the only tuner I am aware of right now on the 3.0TFSI that has chosen to focus on using timing to make power as opposed to boost.

    There is nothing immediately concerning about this but IMO it is a less safe (again, not immediately dangerous) and less reliable way to get the most power. You'll typically see some boost bleed on the Revo cars and slightly slower 1/4 mile times. This is likely NOT something that you would notice in everyday driving and does not appear to be anything that is currently causing significant reductions in reliability of engine components. The car will still make significantly more power than stock.
    Mike
    Mike is spot on in his assessment of Revo's tuning strategy and it's not everyone's cup of tea- it's also likely why Revo cars are not among the top in terms of 1/4 mile performance.

    That said, I've had Revo 1+ and DSG Tune for about 2 years/10k Miles and I've had no issues whatsoever, No CEL, no soft codes, no drive-ability issues nothing. I've run 12.21 @ 112 on 93 file/fuel my last time at track and I'm sure it has a little more in it with a better launch. If your goal is a good, reasonably priced file that will give you a big bump in power over stock but still retain near-stock throttle linearity and drive-ability, Revo is a perfectly fine way to go. The downside is Revo has limited upside- meaning, according to Jeff @ Revo, they're not currently looking at a DP file or any other improvements on their current software(which actually disappoints me because I have had very good service from their product). So if you decide at some point you want more than what 1+ offers you're kinda stuck. Personally, I've got a spot with an APR dealer to move to their UC system when it finally drops as APR continues to push the platform, as are GIAC, EPL and Uni. Again, if you're really not a track guy and doubt you ever will be, I'd be fine with the Revo software- but if you think you could want to move forward in the near term, you may want to consider some other options.
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    Um td1 was flagged by flash counter not but the tune it self. if it was flashed more times then audi flashed it, it got flagged. also they dont flag by flash counter anymore
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    Just to clear things up about dual pulley on revo,it is already being tested ..........

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    My friend is Revo stage 2 (whatever revo calls that).
    He's had no issues for a couple years now. He was also STaSIS v2 (REVO made) for years with no issues.

    I ran the STAsIS v2 tune initially (REVO made) and had issues - knock codes. We tried everything from re-flashing the ECU, re-flashing a new ECU and it kept throwing codes, would not even run on the newly flashed ECU (strange). I switched to GIAC with no issues for years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xpoweruk View Post
    Just to clear things up about dual pulley on revo,it is already being tested ..........
    It would be nice but if so you know something their NA Sales Manager doesn't, Jeff told me as recently as Nov 23rd: "Jeff Funkhouser It is something we have on our to do list (to evaluate), but at this stage it's not something we are actively working on."
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    Quote Originally Posted by abamfo View Post
    I was with Revo for 6 months, no reliability issues with the tune whatsoever other than the fact it changed something in my ECU and voided my factory warranty. Revo acknowledged it was 100% due to their tune (as it had also happened on a handful of their cars globally) and they gave me a refund.

    From my understanding, this is the fastest 1/4 mile time for a Revo car...
    my car a4 3.0T revo st1+
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    Quote Originally Posted by konst86 View Post
    my car a4 3.0T revo st1+
    best time 11.856
    http://dragsng.ru/audi-a4-novovorone...ov-konstantin/
    Is their a time slip and hardware details for your run?? Let's get Loe to add to the 3.0 tfsi 1/4 mile database Loe run's

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    Quote Originally Posted by abamfo View Post
    Is their a time slip and hardware details for your run?? Let's get Loe to add to the 3.0 tfsi 1/4 mile database Loe run's
    http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...p-Times/page50
    My best time ET 11.8566 sec , 119.34mph=191.9km/h, 60ft=1.85sec
    Start without Launch Control, because the track without glue and there are lots of wheel spin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by konst86 View Post
    http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...p-Times/page50
    My best time ET 11.8566 sec , 119.34mph=191.9km/h, 60ft=1.85sec
    Start without Launch Control, because the track without glue and there are lots of wheel spin.
    Ya that 60 ft def has some left on the table. That's a beauty trap though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cobrario View Post
    It would be nice but if so you know something their NA Sales Manager doesn't, Jeff told me as recently as Nov 23rd: "Jeff Funkhouser It is something we have on our to do list (to evaluate), but at this stage it's not something we are actively working on."
    You will just have to trust me on this one ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Badtoyz View Post
    I still has 2 years left on mine but said screw it and tuned it forfeiting my 2 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xpoweruk View Post
    You will just have to trust me on this one ;)
    I hope you're correct, although I'll have likely moved on by then -but then again the way APR's UC release is going who knows...
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    Quote Originally Posted by abamfo View Post
    I was with Revo for 6 months, no reliability issues with the tune whatsoever other than the fact it changed something in my ECU and voided my factory warranty. Revo acknowledged it was 100% due to their tune (as it had also happened on a handful of their cars globally) and they gave me a refund.
    Same thing as I had. I was one of the "handful".

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    Like some of the others I was a Stasis car then moved to Revo as they offered free transition after Stasis closed shop. I've been running Stage 1 for 60k miles and no issue other than the standard stuff like thermostat going bad.

    I'm actually looking to move to a 1+ setup but sadly there are no shops currently offering Revo tuning in San Diego. Does anyone know of a good spot in Orange County? Also does Revo allow you to go 1+ with a crank pulley instead of a supercharger one? I want to kill two birds with one stone and replace the stock part which is prone to failure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badtoyz View Post
    What made u choose revo?

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    I'm only considering... haven't chosen.

    They're in the running for closeness of shop and cost. Also considering Uni and to a lesser extent, APR. The goal is a pulley either right away or in the spring.

    Just looking for honest actual experiences with the tune versus inexperienced opinions.

    Thanks to everyone so far.


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    46,000 miles and no issues. Started as Stasis to keep my warranty, and when they went tits up, Revo honored their tune. So my stage two was easy to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by protogeoff View Post
    I'm only considering... haven't chosen.

    They're in the running for closeness of shop and cost. Also considering Uni and to a lesser extent, APR. The goal is a pulley either right away or in the spring.

    Just looking for honest actual experiences with the tune versus inexperienced opinions.

    Thanks to everyone so far.


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    I'm dual pulley on a custom tune but if I didn't have a buddy that writes software I would have went with Giac. I know the thread says revo and only revo so I didn't want to start a pissing match in your thread but thats my 2 cents.

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    Revo Stage 1 for 30k plus miles and over three years now. Great feel to me and no problems I can detect. I have not straight line tracked it so no data there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badtoyz View Post
    I'm dual pulley on a custom tune but if I didn't have a buddy that writes software I would have went with Giac. I know the thread says revo and only revo so I didn't want to start a pissing match in your thread but thats my 2 cents.

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    Thanks for the honest opinion.

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    Revo Stage 1 for 30K miles w/6MT. I've had no issues and now that I'm off the factory warranty, I just don't care about TD1 - don't know if my car is flagged and I don't care.

    The car definitely has plenty of power - puts down 350whp on a dyno. Only track time the car gets has turns (Limerock, Palmer Motorsports, NJMP, etc) so I don't have any 1/4 mi times. I'd go for a stage 2 setup if Revo had one, but I don't really feel that power is exactly lacking. If anything, I'd spend more money on brakes and suspension first but that's just a long road to spending lots of money on a car that doesn't turn or stop as well as a BMW, Porsche, Lotus, etc.

    Long story short, I've had no regrets with Revo - I chose them because they beat GIAC and APR out to the punch in ~ 2011.
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