C6 Battery Coding Question.

[Saifxnyc]

Hi everyone i just got my vehicle back from the dealership. I am assuming they didn't charge it they had it for over 10 days. The car cranked quite a bit for a while before it started the battery percentage was 20% but it charged up to 100% under an hour. I did a VCDS scan this is the only thing that concerns me i am wondering if the battery needs to be coded or not. I don't know if it was every coded but i never had issues with it. If these codes are the result from being at a low voltage than that's a good thing . Does any know how to check if the battery is coded on a 2007 AUDI A6


Address 61: Battery Regul. Labels: 4F0-910-181.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 181 E HW: 4F0 915 181 A
Component: J0644 BEM H12 0590
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000000027224
Shop #: WSC 40322 403 54476
VCID: 23450907E2202306A91-8076

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 915 105 D
Component: von VA0 2605081815
Coding: 344630393135313035442056413032363035303831383135
Shop #: WSC 00000 512 00290

2 Faults Found:
02272 - Quiescent Current Stage 1
000 - - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 6
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 183987 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2015.12.14
Time: 17:10:55

02273 - Quiescent Current Stage 2
000 - - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 3
Reset counter: 255
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2015.12.14
Time: 17:16:07

[SinCityA6]

If the battery wasn't changed, then no need to recode it. Most likely the faults you are seeing are a result of the power drain. Clear them and see if they return. My suspicion is they won't.
A tell tale sign the battery is not registered with the car is if you get a message "battery level low. Will recharge while driving" if you get this after putting in a new battery then you need to code it.


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[Saifxnyc]

If the battery wasn't changed, then no need to recode it. Most likely the faults you are seeing are a result of the power drain. Clear them and see if they return. My suspicion is they won't.
A tell tale sign the battery is not registered with the car is if you get a message "battery level low. Will recharge while driving" if you get this after putting in a new battery then you need to code it.


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Thanks sin I never saw that sign in my life and the battery was replaced in 2014 February from the original factory battery. I was told it is a Volkswagen battery and that they're the same as Audi part. Is it normal for this car to not have any charge in battery if not driven for more than a week?


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[haloguy628]

The battery charge indicator on MMI is not really accurate so don't worry about the 20%. The codes Quiescent Current Stage 1 & 2 are battery drain codes and go up to 6. I would check the battery with voltmeter to just make sure the battery is good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COJr7OB23Hw

[Saifxnyc]

The battery charge indicator on MMI is not really accurate so don't worry about the 20%. The codes Quiescent Current Stage 1 & 2 are battery drain codes and go up to 6. I would check the battery with voltmeter to just make sure the battery is good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COJr7OB23Hw

i have VCDS software can't i test the battery with that? I will test the battery with a volt meter tomorrow at the garage as well thanks for your input. The car battery was not coded properly since it was replaced and i coded it right but it still has shut off on me twice... I drove it for 60 miles at 70 mph average today to charge up... If it doesn't start in the morning i'll know

[SinCityA6]

Thanks sin I never saw that sign in my life and the battery was replaced in 2014 February from the original factory battery. I was told it is a Volkswagen battery and that they're the same as Audi part. Is it normal for this car to not have any charge in battery if not driven for more than a week?


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Theoretically, the power management module that is connected to the positive terminal of the battery will regulate charge/discharge of the battery. When the battery drains to a certain level, the system will start shutting down various components to keep the battery from draining, but it will go dead if there is a power draw. The other day, while messing around with my new HEX-NET VCDS module from Ross-Tech and installing my new dash cam, I drained the battery in my car to the point it would not crank over. Total time; approx. 2 hours.

[SinCityA6]

i have VCDS software can't i test the battery with that? I will test the battery with a volt meter tomorrow at the garage as well thanks for your input. The car battery was not coded properly since it was replaced and i coded it right but it still has shut off on me twice... I drove it for 60 miles at 70 mph average today to charge up... If it doesn't start in the morning i'll know

With VCDS, you can monitor battery charge levels and charging system output, but I don't think it will test the battery to see if there in an internal issue (bad cell, etc.)

[Saifxnyc]

With VCDS, you can monitor battery charge levels and charging system output, but I don't think it will test the battery to see if there in an inertial issue (bad cell, etc.)

Ok I had it tested yesterday at advance auto parts. They directly hooked the machine that check the cold cranking Amps and battery volts in the trunk. The battery stated it was good. I drove the car for 150 miles. 3 hours and turned it off and five mins later turned it on and it hesitates to start with the same symptoms. I see i will double check it with another mechanic to make sure if the battery is good or bad. Is it common for a battery to just die pretty much after 22 months? it's an original Varta battery...

Theoretically, the power management module that is connected to the positive terminal of the battery will regulate charge/discharge of the battery. When the battery drains to a certain level, the system will start shutting down various components to keep the battery from draining, but it will go dead if there is a power draw. The other day, while messing around with my new HEX-NET VCDS module from Ross-Tech and installing my new dash cam, I drained the battery in my car to the point it would not crank over. Total time; approx. 2 hours.

Were you able to charge your battery up by just driving it for a while? Should I check the alternator as well?

The car is was hesitant to start just now and the HVAC error is new I am not sure but I think it is related to the car having a hard time starting because this error was nonexistent. In fact the only thing that had a fault code was the Control Head in which I have turned off the TPMS sensor. I am inclined to believe the battery probably dying.. I won't get a second opinion till Monday unless I can find a local shop that’s open on a Sunday that’s not auto zone. The dealer had this car for a long time prior to the ten days more like 3 weeks and when I got it back it was doing this I drove it around for a while it stopped. The second time I get it back after 10 days the problem will not go away. I drove the freaking hell outta this car in the first snow we got here and it still did not solved the hesitant start issue it just cranks really hard then starts. 7 out of 10 times it will start. Could be the alternator? And is the alternator the same thing as the starter motor? Just looking at the long picture here in case I’m f$%^&*d
And if the battery is bad do you recommend buying this? Or do you recommend something else. Thank you

http://www.autozone.com/batteries-st...ue#tab-reviews

Here are the latest results from VCDS
Saturday,19,December,2015,19:39:22:62939
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
VCDS Version: Release 12.12.0 (x64)
Data version: 20130910


VIN: WAUDH74F27N003624 License Plate:
Mileage: 184400km-114580mi Repair Order:



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Chassis Type: 4F (4F0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 07 08 09 0E 15 16 17 19 42 46 47 4F 52 53 56 61
62 72 77

VIN: WAUDH74F27N003624 Mileage: 184400km/114580miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
07-Control Head -- Status: Malfunction 0010
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
0E-Media Player 1 -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: Malfunction 0010
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000

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Address 01: Engine (AUK) Labels: 06E-910-559-BKH.lbl
Part No SW: 4F2 910 559 HW: 4F1 907 559 E
Component: 3.2l V6 FSI 0020
Revision: --H19--- Serial number:
Coding: 01050109190F0120
Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
VCID: E9D9DB2FC08CB956A3D-80BC

1 Fault Found:
005634 - Power Supply Terminal 30
P1602 - 008 - Voltage too Low
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101000
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 40
Mileage: 184402 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Mass Air / Rev.: 0.0 mg/str
Temperature: 3.0°C
Engine Off
Load: 0.0 %
Speed: 0.0 km/h

Readiness: 0110 0101
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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. Labels: 4F0-910-852.clb
Part No SW: 4F0 910 852 HW: 4F0 905 852 B
Component: FBSAUDIC6 ELV H31 0210
Revision: 27120501 Serial number: 10601000410184
Coding: 0000011
Shop #: WSC 02323 785 00200
VCID: E3C5C90722A0E306691-80B6

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 910 131 J
Component: FBSAUDIC6 EZS H45 0080

Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4F0 910 220 A
Component: FBSAUDIC6 IDG H01 0040

1 Fault Found:
00446 - Function Limitation due to Under-Voltage
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100010
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 195
Mileage: 184396 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2015.12.19
Time: 06:06:40


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Address 07: Control Head Labels: 4F0-910-7xx-07-H.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 731 F HW: 4E0 035 729
Component: Interfacebox H43 2740
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 303E6067523000
Coding: 0000003
Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
VCID: 2541171FEC14DD36C75-8070

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 910 609 E
Component: Bedienteil MMIC6H02 0060

Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 00000000416935

Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 0115.05.060000000100010550ÿ

Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 010550ÿ

2 Faults Found:
01325 - Control Module for Tire Pressure Monitoring (J502)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 156
Mileage: 184402 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2015.12.19
Time: 19:26:00

02244 - Button in Control Head is Stuck
000 - - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 40
Mileage: 184399 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2015.12.19
Time: 06:11:41

Freeze Frame:
Bin. Bits: 00000000
Bin. Bits: 0000010
Bin. Bits: 000


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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 4F0-910-043.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 043 HW: 4F1 820 043 AC
Component: KLIMABETAETIGUNGH20 0170
Revision: 00000030 Serial number: 00000030126282
Coding: 0524326
Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
VCID: DBB5F1E71AD0DBC6211-808E

1 Fault Found:
01206 - Signal for Duration of Ignition Off Time
008 - Implausible Signal

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Address 53: Parking Brake Labels: 4F0-910-801.clb
Part No SW: 4F0 910 801 A HW: 4F0 907 801
Component: EPB CA3C0040 H03 0040
Revision: --H03---
Coding: 0005022
Shop #: WSC 02324 785 00200
VCID: 1E3338F3C9420EEE86F-804B

1 Fault Found:
01487 - System Function Test
008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101000
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 196
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2064.00.00
Time: 00:00:00

Freeze Frame:
Voltage: 0.00 V
Count: 184

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Address 61: Battery Regul. Labels: 4F0-910-181.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 181 E HW: 4F0 915 181 A
Component: J0644 BEM H12 0590
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000000027224
Shop #: WSC 40322 403 54476
VCID: 23450907E2202306A91-8076

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 000 915 10D L
Component: von VA0 33060441F7
Coding: 3030303931353130444C2056413033333036303434314637
Shop #: WSC 00000 512 00290

No fault code found.
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[14S4GWM]

Heres some good battery info
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...acement-Coding

[Saifxnyc]

Heres some good battery info
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showth...acement-Coding

Thanks 14S4GWM I was able to follow the directions on the Ross tech website
http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index...ry_Replacement
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJAScg6JrYI
it's very straight forward that link is also very helpful much appreciated. I know it says after market battery can cause electrical issues but i have been reading posts on the forums some people don't have any issues with an autozone or walmart battery but if the original is a must i can do that the price is the same anyways.


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[Saifxnyc]

I installed a new battery and the car did crank a bit extra but starts fine. The old battery stated it was good but wasn't holding a charge i assume. If it won't start anytime soon I'll know it was not the battery but so far changing the battery has solved the issue. I did not get a chance to drive it on the high way for a long time but i will take it out on Sunday give it a nice run and see if i experience any issues at all further. Apparently Audi batteries can go bad in 22 months....

[alvocado]

Audi OEM batteries now have a 4 yr, full replacement warranty (no prorate.) From my research, that beats any aftermarket battery warranty, they are competitively priced, and there is no issue with recoding VAG COM.

[JohnnyTooBad]

Bringing this back up. I just put as new battery in my car. It's an Autocraft H8 AGM from Advance. So I have 2 questions. The battery has no codes of any kind written on it. If I were to enter codes, would I just try to find any similar codes for a 950CCA AGM battery? Also, how do I enter the codes? Do you have to have a VAGCOM? I looked through the MMI and didn't see anything. Maybe I didn't look in the right place?