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    Adding OEM Rear View Camera

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    Originally I had trouble coding the OEM Audi rear view camera I was adding - I was able to get it working - see the next post for many more details.
    Last edited by iaflyer; 10-29-2015 at 11:03 AM. Reason: Next post has the details...

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    Here's some details about how I added the Audi OEM Rear View Camera to my 2010 A6. The car did not come with it, but it was an available option with the Prestige trim level. Mine was the Premium Plus trim, so it didn't have the camera, nor wiring for it. After much research, I determined that it was technically possible as long as you added some parts. The European spec cars seem to require that your car have the Audi Parking System (APS) installed in order to work, but the US cars don't - mine didn't so I wasn't worried.

    Here's what I bought:

    Kufatec Wiring harness - it's possible to make your own, but this is a lot easier, everything is the right length with the correct connectors. Also comes with some basic instructions (not terribly detailed, but enough to go on and figure out the rest).
    https://www.kufatec.de/shop/en/audi/...i-a6-4f-mmi-3g - $97 shipped from Germany

    Used Audi Camera Control Module (also called Parking Control Module) PARKING AID CONTROL MODULE 2011 AUDI A6 AVANT 4F0910441D - $89 from Ebay

    Used Rear Trunk Grip Handle - 8E0827574C3FZ - (or Pull pocket as it's called) - $110 with shipping from Shokan.com

    Used Audi OEM Camera - 4L0980551D - $250 with shipping.

    I went with used parts because (a) the car (that I just bought) is 5 years old already, didn't see the need for new parts and (b) The price of new OEM parts is pretty high for these items. The camera alone is $550. So, I saved quite a bit with the used parts. They all worked - the only issue is that I bought the wrong grip handle, so I wasted about $70 bucks there.

    The other thing I bought was an Audi A6 maintenance manual, from https://www.emanualonline.com . It was essential for figuring out how to get the trim pieces off, where the parts went, etc. $15 well spent.

    The actual installing parts was about 8 hours of actual work, spread over three days.

    Day 1 - removed the liner on the rear trunk lid, don't be afraid to pull hard to remove the trim latches, they are strong. Removed the license plate then I removed the old pull handle by unscrewing the nuts that look like they hold the license plate lights on (look at the replacement one for clue on how to remove the old one). I installed the camera in the pull handle (easy) and installed the pull handle in the trunk lid. Ran the wires down next to the existing wiring - couldn't get them inside the existing writing cover, too tight. Ran them into the right rear trunk area where the Camera Control box will go.



    Next up was running the wires to the glovebox, to attach to the MMI and the CAN BUS. It was easy getting the wires out of the rear trunk, in the back seat I just folded down the back seat then moved some trim out of the way and slid the wires behind it.



    After that, I removed the B-pillar trim - the manual came in very handy as it's not obvious how some parts have to come out first in order to get something else out. Nothing got broken and it came out easily. I then dropped the glovebox (5 screws) and twisted it around to get to the MMI module that's in the glovebox. It was easy to access the back of it to add the camera wires (2) to the plug.



    Back of the MMI

    I removed the blue cover in order to add the camera wires.

    Behind the glovebox.

    After that, I had to add two wires to the CAN BUS plug next to the glovebox. I could see where it was, but for the life of me I couldn't get to the back of it. After internet research and youtube, I found the little black clip on the left that released the CAN plug. Then all was easy - the place I had to add the wires, plug 14 was occupied. Hmm. What to do - I did more research and the word was the exact pins don't matter, but you need to make sure that the wires are on the same CAN BUS as 14 (not all the wires in that bundle are in the Convincece Can Bus apparently. I picked the closest ones, maybe it was 17? Anyway - it worked.

    I replaced the glovebox (a helper would of been nice to hold it up as I bolted it back on) and ran the wires along the door sill. Replaced the trim and all was good.

    The next day I finished it all. I mounted the camera control box in the right rear trunk area - there is a place for it, and I had the mounting bracket (came with it, very nice). But I had to get self-tapping screws to mount it to the floor of the area. Also, you have to remove the jack, the jack holder, and the tool holder in order to mount this, and to tap power off the fuses in the trunk. Mounting this was probably the hardest part, as it is very tight fit, and you can't see what you're doing very well. Managed to get it mounted with only a bit of cursing.


    The black bracket is in the middle, with the fuse panel above.

    Silver box is the camera control.

    Tapping into the power block above was easy. I removed the fuse panel in order to access the back. I spend 30 minutes figuring out which empty fuse area to use, but it doesn't matter, they all seem to be powered the same. I slid the positive power lead into the fuse block then replaced it all back as it came out. I attached the negative lead to a ground screw that was right there in the trunk, that was being used by other grounds. I plugged in all together and no smoke!

    I knew it had to be coded with a VCDS to get it to work. I have a Carista scan tool, which can see faults and make minor modifications. I scanned the system and had a lot of faults! I was worried at first, but then saw it was things like "Passenger Door" that I knew I hadn't messed with. I guess play with the fuse box confused it - so I reset them all and they never came back.

    I found a guy (drob32 - Thanks!) who lived nearby who offered to meet me to code it up. We met a few days later and started in. The Kufatec directions talk about coding, but they are using something other than VCDS so we really couldn't follow their directions much. In the end, this was the coding:

    My gateway (19) was not support by VCDS, so there were just some bits to change. I still have an error there, but we ended up not changing anything there. Most other guides say to tell the gateway that you have a rear camera. Maybe mine you do, but we couldn't read it. The error was:

    CAN network gateway
    Part #: 4F0907468M
    Component: GW-BEM 4CAN-M
    Coding: 000303 (hex)
    Fault codes:
    01044 Control Module Incorrectly Coded


    We went into the Information Electr. (5F) module to turn on the camera in the MMI. VCDS didn't support this module either, but the Kufatec directions said, on BYTE 7 to turn on bit 1. We did that, reset the MMI and poof, the rear camera module appeared in the VCDS, along with a code that the rear camera wasn't calibrated - perfect, just what I wanted to see.

    We couldn't see anything on the MMI in reverse - screen didn't change. We went into the Rear Camera Module (6C) and turned on Optical Parking System. This was wrong and would bite us later. I had the Calibration Mat all printed up (from Staples) and had the directions on how to calibrate it. This thread was a great help: http://forum.a8parts.co.uk/showthread.php?t=7596&page=7 and this thread too http://forum.a8parts.co.uk/showthread.php?t=7596

    We followed the directions and it appeared to calibrate. But we still didn't see anything in reverse. We ran out of time and I went home to do more research.

    Finally I figured that Optical Parking System is NOT the Rear View Camera, but the acoustical Audi Parking System (the button looking things on the bumpers that beep in the car when you're too close to something). I don't have that, so a few days later I borrowed the VCDS cable and went into the module and turned that off. I reset the MMI, and boom, it worked:



    I was pretty happy. Took about 8 hours of working in the car, and about a week or two of research and buying parts.
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    Nice work, glad you figured it out. Backup cameras kick ass...I need to install one in our GTI, will definitely look to your guide for direction.
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    About to tackle the same thing...

    iaflyer, I am getting ready to do this exact retro project on my 2010 A6. I've got just about all my parts in. I was doing some looking in the trunk and noticed two plungers on the trunk lid. I will need to get them off to remove the lining. Did you have these as well? Do the covers to these just pop off? I hope you don't mind me pestering you with questions!

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    Quote Originally Posted by br007 View Post
    iaflyer, I am getting ready to do this exact retro project on my 2010 A6. I've got just about all my parts in. I was doing some looking in the trunk and noticed two plungers on the trunk lid. I will need to get them off to remove the lining. Did you have these as well? Do the covers to these just pop off? I hope you don't mind me pestering you with questions!
    I just went to look at the trunk, I believe those "plungers" don't come off. You just pop off the whole trunk lid lining and they stay connected to the lining. I don't remember taking them off. The hard part of the trunk lid lining is getting the emergency trunk release back installed. It's a very tight fit, both to get off and reinstall.

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    Wow,

    Nice write-up.

    I will value my stock camera that much more now.

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    Is this a mmi 3g thing? I'm guessing my 05 is too old. :(
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    Quote Originally Posted by skylinrcr01 View Post
    Is this a mmi 3g thing? I'm guessing my 05 is too old. :(
    yep, iaflyer has a 3G MMI unit. For those of us with 2G MMIs it can also be done, but requires more.

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    Excellent write-up - nice work!

    I just bought a clean 2008 Audi A6 Quattro with 67000 miles from original owner. It was a challenging decision for me as I really wanted an A6 that was clean, had low miles and that had a back-up camera - unfortunately this one does not have a back-up camera. Will the procedure above work for 2008 Audi A6 Quattro? Thanks.

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    Great write up . The only thing i would add is check the mmi module if it has FBAS or not . Its essential to have FBAS to connetc camera or tv

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    Thank you for this, it really helps other people who are interested in this


    After having my wifes 08 pathfinder with back up cam and getting my audi back boy do I miss it. There's reason it's federally required to be a standard feature by
    2018 or something like that.

    Sucks knowing it will involve more for the 2g mmi guys.


    Could you add a splitter and do a phone mirror in addition to the back up cam? That would AWESOME to be able and throw my Phones Waze App or something onto the mmi screen. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by 330volts View Post
    Excellent write-up - nice work!

    I just bought a clean 2008 Audi A6 Quattro with 67000 miles from original owner. It was a challenging decision for me as I really wanted an A6 that was clean, had low miles and that had a back-up camera - unfortunately this one does not have a back-up camera. Will the procedure above work for 2008 Audi A6 Quattro? Thanks.
    Thanks - my model year (2010) had the backup camera as included in the highest trim level, so I was pretty sure the MMI would support this before I started buying parts. I looked up the 2008 A6 and it was possible to order it with the "Technology Package" that had the backup camera. Brochure here: http://www.auto-brochures.com/makes/...%20A6_2008.pdf

    (good place to find brochures here: http://www.auto-brochures.com/audi.html )

    So - I think it's possible to do the same thing - the only things is that perhaps the MMI doesn't have the camera connector as niedzial1983 says below.

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    If you dont have a tv tuner you definitely dont have mmi module with fbas

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    IAflyer quick question is Information Electr. (5F) module BYTE 7 located in the hidden menu?

    Thanks

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    After some more reading it appears that I need to go to Address 5F, byte 07-bit 1, to turn the camera function on in the MMI. However when I try to do this with VCDS I get an error message that the coding is out of range.

    Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794) Labels: None
    Part No SW: 4E0 035 664 A HW: 4E0 035 664 A
    Component: H-BN-NA H45 0042
    Revision: -------- Serial number: 488J$097520218
    Coding: 010200000002E1EC41000304EF6300030000
    Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573
    VCID: 221EE24D44C14D776C5-8076

    Any help would be great thanks

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    I have become interested in this because I just found an OEM back up camera optioned 2006 6 like mine at a local junkyard! SCORE!

    I pulled the camera and trim for the trunk.

    I'll have to go back this weekend to get the wiring and modules or anything else I need for it.

    The photos aren't showing, any chance to get them back
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    iaflyer - Great write and photos. I just completed the install this last weekend and figure it took over 10 hours and can usually get things done in a few hours but I took my time and had some issues along the way. I had to access the trunk lid 3 times, once because my used trunk pull had led lights that I had to swap out and the camera was backwards that I later found out. It then took a while to figure out how to get the Ross-Tech programming done and I was about to chalk the install up as a failure until I figured out the programming by going to Ross-Tech's site. Part of the dilemma was kufatec's install manual was for a Q-7 but with your directions and studying your photos carefully it was a successful install. I spent about what was listed in the write-up but got the camera for $100 and the VAG software was a aprox. $200.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barnachle View Post
    iaflyer - Great write and photos. I just completed the install this last weekend and figure it took over 10 hours and can usually get things done in a few hours but I took my time and had some issues along the way. I had to access the trunk lid 3 times, once because my used trunk pull had led lights that I had to swap out and the camera was backwards that I later found out. It then took a while to figure out how to get the Ross-Tech programming done and I was about to chalk the install up as a failure until I figured out the programming by going to Ross-Tech's site. Part of the dilemma was kufatec's install manual was for a Q-7 but with your directions and studying your photos carefully it was a successful install. I spent about what was listed in the write-up but got the camera for $100 and the VAG software was a aprox. $200.
    I have been playing with this for a few days on my '12 S5. Releasing the Can bus plug has eluded me so far. And trying to figure out which plug (Blue I think) on the MMI 3 unit. Kufatec directions are lacking in this area. Any pointers greatly appreciated.

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