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    Quote Originally Posted by doug97gxe View Post
    to me its a newer car.. i would prefer a newer car since less chance of it being abused although thats not garanteed also should have less mileage
    Meh, it's all in the mileage- not age. I get what you're saying that newer is likely to have less miles, but that's just a generalization. '10-'12 are the same car, so it being "newer" doesn't really present much of an advantage, save for potential warranty remaining and higher resale- although buy-in will be higher as well and the newer car won't be as far along the depreciation curve.

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    i just found it hilarious when the same aristocratic attitude was being extended to v8 vs v10 R8's ..
    Bruh. Even a tuned soccer mom 3.0T Q5 will beat a V8 R8 in the quarter mile. It is sad for something that has supercar looks. Still a great car, no doubt- but if buying used, the extra cost for a V10 is not that much and is well worth it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LINDW4LL View Post
    Meh, age is not a factor as far as abuse- it's all in the mileage. '10-'12 are the same car, so it being "newer" doesn't really present much of an advantage (save for potential warranty remaining and resale). The V10 is such a better car.


    Bruh. Even a tuned soccer mom 3.0T Q5 will beat a V8 R8 in the quarter mile. It is sad for something that has supercar looks. Still a great car, no doubt- but if buying used, the extra cost for a V10 is not that much and is well worth it.
    yes i know age doesn't always equal abuse or lower mileage .. but i would rather a newer car personally .. naturally if both cars are equal as in the options i want and they are both in my price range i would go for the v10 .. but to look down on the v8 as though we are comparing civics vs m3's .. i would definitely take the V8 .. i'm adrenaline junky .. had 200 hp motorcycles .. 600 hp cars .. i love speed.. i love power.. but i'm not going to turn my nose up at a v8 R8 simply because its not a v10
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    I think doug is reading way too much into it thinking that he's some how managed to psychoanalyze the personalities of RS5 owners. Don't know why he seems to "feel" that RS5 owners are looking down on him because he chose a S5, but there isn't anything further from the truth from a car guy perspective. Doug wants to defend his decision because of the manual which is perfectly legitimate but the R8 in question here is an auto.

    The issue here is about money and image when it comes to an older R8 V8 versus a newer RS5, is it not? For the serious money that is being asked for for the R8 when OP already has a RS5, he's asking if it's worth the trade not in addition. What does a R8 offer over a RS5? The RS5 has a better V8, a better transmission, more practical for someone who doesn't have multiple cars, more up to date amenities, POSSIBLY lower insurance, much less attention grabbing, and CHEAPER. The advantages of the R8 are looks and weight. So unless OP is going to track a lot (but then why the choice in gearbox?) or just wants T&A from that type of girl, what does it really have to offer over a RS5 for that much more money? Most RS5 owners say not worth it because the RS5 offers things we are looking for without the things we don't care for. Also going to go out on a limb that the general demographic for RS5 owners is a bit older so most of us already have significant others. The R8 is a LOT of money to spend if OP is going to be "settling" in anyway. It's as simple as that. He asked for what we would do so we've been providing our personal opinions. What's important to each person varies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doug97gxe View Post
    yes i know age doesn't always equal abuse or lower mileage .. but i would rather a newer car personally .. naturally if both cars are equal as in the options i want and they are both in my price range i would go for the v10 .. but to look down on the v8 as though we are comparing civics vs m3's .. i would definitely take the V8 .. i'm adrenaline junky .. had 200 hp motorcycles .. 600 hp cars .. i love speed.. i love power.. but i'm not going to turn my nose up at a v8 R8 simply because its not a v10
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    Quote Originally Posted by doug97gxe View Post
    my statement isn't coming from one post.. this post.. etc .. its a trend i've noticed on these forums.. not only with 5's.. i work in Greenwich.. i see it everyday.. soccer moms parking their AMG SUV's when the drive to get their nails done not going over 20 mph on a daily basis.. its the law of the land.. its the food chain.. i get it.. i'm ok with it.. i don't mention it because it bothers me.. i mention it because its a funny observation.

    No Thank you on the RS5 .. i wanted a MT .. actually went to purchase an RS5 until i was told it doesn't come in MT .. a little hypocritical of me? possibly .. but i always fell in love with the grill and the 20" rims.. my initial plan for the 5 was to leave it stock after modding my prior car to balls and it being a 70k disappointment.. but anyway.. moving on..

    again this may not be YOUR feeling.. but i've seen it in other threads.. "why would you buy an S5 when you can own an RS5" .. "Doug is an RS5 hater" .. not sure how i can hate the RS5 when it looks just like every other 5 when they are all modded .. i just found it hilarious when the same aristocratic attitude was being extended to v8 vs v10 R8's .. and the fact that of course A5/S5 owners would want a v8 .. like we are used to settling for the bottom of the barrel
    I'll turn my nose up at a V8 R8 because it's and entirely different car from a V10 R8 - and because I have driven both and honestly do not find the V8 a very exciting or enjoyable car while the V10 is truly exciting and a step above the RS5.

    Look at my sig - I've driven nothing but manuals my whole life (in car form) and was going to buy either an S5 6MT or *gasp* TTRS because of this. I didn't test drive a RS5 because they weren't here before I ordered mine, but I drove a 458 with an "automatic" and knew from that experience the RS5 would be amazing. Fortunately I was right.

    I don't see any "aristocratic" attitude - I think you are just quite defensive - but it's tough to take you seriously when you only have one side of the story. RS5s are on dealer lots everywhere now - roll up in your S5 and take one for a drive - any salesman who doesn't take you seriously is an idiot. Then come back and tell me it's just a nameplate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnhanson View Post
    I don't see any "aristocratic" attitude - I think you are just quite defensive - but it's tough to take you seriously when you only have one side of the story. RS5s are on dealer lots everywhere now - roll up in your S5 and take one for a drive - any salesman who doesn't take you seriously is an idiot. Then come back and tell me it's just a nameplate.
    As i said it isn't this thread.. its the whole forum.. and not just this 5 forum.. other regions of the forum

    my dealer has about 5 RS5's i could have driven one if i wanted.. but as Steve indicated .. i never learned how to drive an automatic and i'm too old to learn now
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    i wonder if the Lambo forum has similar discussions as this
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    Quote Originally Posted by teky929rr View Post
    ^^ Deal breaker right here with no gated 6MT for me personally.

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    It seems that you have the bug. Hard to shake it off. Good luck
    No bug. Just curious for attention with the RS5 LOL

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    I think the r8 is beautiful! Is the rs5 paid off?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bknewtype View Post
    dunno why im loling at the people who wouldnt take an r8
    It is because if you were to buy a new V10 R8, you can probably afford a Ferrari for a bit more.

    R8 vs the RS5 also has a lot to do with maintenance costs
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    As many others have said, it comes down to what's important to you. Personally I wouldn't trade my RS5 for a V8 R8, for several of the same reasons that others have stated - it's my one and only car, so I do need some degree of practicality (but not too much, because that wouldn't be as fun ), the V8 in the RS5 is superior to the V8 in the R8, and possibly most importantly, the difference in interiors. Call me spoiled, but the lack of keyless functionality in the R8 is a big turn-off to me.. I know it's stupid, but for cars at this price point, I'd like everything to be perfect.

    In terms of looks and attention-grabbing, the R8 would attract more attention from a wider group of people. To hardcore car enthusiasts who really know cars, perhaps the RS5 would attract more attention.. but as we make up a fairly small percentage of the average population, that may be a non-factor to you

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    Quote Originally Posted by zhclvn View Post
    It is because if you were to buy a new V10 R8, you can probably afford a Ferrari for a bit more.

    R8 vs the RS5 also has a lot to do with maintenance costs
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    Quote Originally Posted by doug97gxe View Post
    As i said it isn't this thread.. its the whole forum.. and not just this 5 forum.. other regions of the forum

    my dealer has about 5 RS5's i could have driven one if i wanted.. but as Steve indicated .. i never learned how to drive an automatic and i'm too old to learn now
    Seriously - give it a try. I'll even make a wager with you. 2 parts. You decide the stakes and odds.

    Drive an RS5. Give it time to learn the paddles because it does take time to learn how to use them well, the car is very boring in plain automatic. If you still think the RS5 is just a prestige thing and not an entirely different car without exceeding your expectations then I'll shut the hell up.

    Conversely, drive a V8 R8 - preferably 6MT because it's better. If immediately after exiting the car you don't think "this is a supercar?" or "this really stickers for $50k more than an RS?" and feel generally underwhelmed then let me know. Better yet if you can then find a V10 R8 and leave it saying "that just blew my mind" you win that one too.

    I think if you win both of those you can go ahead call me an aristocratic badge whore all day.



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    Quote Originally Posted by zhclvn View Post
    R8 vs the RS5 also has a lot to do with maintenance costs
    Running costs should be similar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnhanson View Post
    Seriously - give it a try. I'll even make a wager with you. 2 parts. You decide the stakes and odds.

    Drive an RS5. Give it time to learn the paddles because it does take time to learn how to use them well, the car is very boring in plain automatic. If you still think the RS5 is just a prestige thing and not an entirely different car without exceeding your expectations then I'll shut the hell up.

    Conversely, drive a V8 R8 - preferably 6MT because it's better. If immediately after exiting the car you don't think "this is a supercar?" or "this really stickers for $50k more than an RS?" and feel generally underwhelmed then let me know. Better yet if you can then find a V10 R8 and leave it saying "that just blew my mind" you win that one too.

    I think if you win both of those you can go ahead call me an aristocratic badge whore all day.



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    Don't get me wrong, I loved the RS5 and it is a great car. But, it is just too heavy. Great for long runs down an open road, but not as good if you want to twist and shout. Still, far better in my mind than the S5, which is also a very nice car. To me, the S5 just makes me say, "Wish I had a V8." On the other hand, the "rarer" RS5 looks just like every other A5 and S5 to those who are not in the know.

    As for R8 V8 vs. V10, it's always easy to say the bigger motor is better. But, I had a chance to drive an R8 GT that was put through UG's shop, and I'll say that after that, even the R8 V10 is lacking. There is always "more."
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    Quote Originally Posted by bknewtype View Post
    dunno why im loling at the people who wouldnt take an r8
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    100k is a lot of money to spend on a car that will get smoked by a tuned S5. It definitely is sexy though and if you can drive a walking vagina magnet at 21, by all means do so. At the end of the day, you are a 28k heffner TT kit away from supremacy. R8 is too sexy to deny. Ive never driven an RS5 but im certain, i would never pick it over a r8, irregardless of the engine. Im not a fan of V8's in general.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eganraC View Post
    100k is a lot of money to spend on a car that will get smoked by a tuned S5. It definitely is sexy though and if you can drive a walking vagina magnet at 21, by all means do so. At the end of the day, you are a 28k heffner TT kit away from supremacy. R8 is too sexy to deny. Ive never driven an RS5 but im certain, i would never pick it over a r8, irregardless of the engine. Im not a fan of V8's in general.
    Which might get smoked by a 20 year old honda with 40k in mods. Whats your point? Its the whole car as a package that makes it different.

    Most people complaining about the V8 R8, what will happen when its a TT V6 next year? (along with the V10).

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    Quote Originally Posted by dazed1 View Post
    Most people complaining about the V8 R8, what will happen when its a TT V6 next year? (along with the V10).
    I'd rather see a TTV6 than the V8- without any question. At least it will be fast... We still have a proper high-revving N/A option available if someone wants that experience, so I see zero downside.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dazed1 View Post
    Which might get smoked by a 20 year old honda with 40k in mods. Whats your point? Its the whole car as a package that makes it different.

    Most people complaining about the V8 R8, what will happen when its a TT V6 next year? (along with the V10).
    my point is you shouldnt be in a "supercar" getting smoked by lesser cars in your own brand...everyone knows there are fast cars out there from other brands, whats your point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LINDW4LL View Post
    I'd rather see a TTV6 than the V8- without any question. At least it will be fast... We still have a proper high-revving N/A option available if someone wants that experience, so I see zero downside.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eganraC View Post
    100k is a lot of money to spend on a car that will get smoked by a tuned S5. It definitely is sexy though and if you can drive a walking vagina magnet at 21, by all means do so. At the end of the day, you are a 28k heffner TT kit away from supremacy. R8 is too sexy to deny. Ive never driven an RS5 but im certain, i would never pick it over a r8, irregardless of the engine. Im not a fan of V8's in general.
    Yes, it is. But getting smoked by a tuned S5 is not the issue. I'd much rather have my $110k Cayman even though a tuned S5 will smoke it all day (until the motor blows).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojo31 View Post
    Yes, it is. But getting smoked by a tuned S5 is not the issue. I'd much rather have my $110k Cayman even though a tuned S5 will smoke it all day (until the motor blows).
    You had to bring Porsche into this, didn't you . It goes without question where i would dump 100k into but thats besides the point. A tuned S5 will not smoke your car on the track.

    So, you are an ex RS5 er, why no R8? srs question? It seems to be the obvious evolution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eganraC View Post
    100k is a lot of money to spend on a car that will get smoked by a tuned S5.
    Lol get that logic out of here. A tuned Huracan will smack an Aventador. A tuned 911 will probably beat a 918. A stripped vw golf with a monster engine would crap on almost any car it'll run into. We don't buy these expensive cars solely to go fast in a straight line..

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    Quote Originally Posted by PEM View Post
    Lol get that logic out of here. A tuned Huracan will smack an Aventador. A tuned 911 will probably beat a 918. A stripped vw golf with a monster engine would crap on almost any car it'll run into. We don't buy these expensive cars solely to go fast in a straight line..
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    Quote Originally Posted by PEM View Post
    Lol get that logic out of here. A tuned Huracan will smack an Aventador. A tuned 911 will probably beat a 918. A stripped vw golf with a monster engine would crap on almost any car it'll run into. We don't buy these expensive cars solely to go fast in a straight line..
    Thanks for the enlightenment and absolutely I love how you chopped out all the positive things I said about the R8 for debate purposes. If you read the entire post without immediately getting offended and replying, you would see that I said R8V8 over RS5. If it were a matter of 100k as the budget, I wouldn't be in the brand..and I never mentioned straight line, I don't know where that manifested that from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eganraC View Post
    my point is you shouldnt be in a "supercar" getting smoked by lesser cars in your own brand...everyone knows there are fast cars out there from other brands, whats your point?
    What point are you trying to get across with this then? I didn't say anything about your positive points because I agree. I commented on your negative point because that's what I disagree on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PEM View Post
    What point are you trying to get across with this then?
    The point is that the 4.2 is an underwhelming engine for the R8 and if you want the true experience you need to buy the V10.
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    It is indeed very underwhelming. I think when they came out with the original R8, it was meant more to be an everyday supercar that looks great and is affordable. When the sales came, so did the bigger engine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PEM View Post
    What point are you trying to get across with this then? I didn't say anything about your positive points because I agree. I commented on your negative point because that's what I disagree on.
    My point: If you buy a supercar, it should be super or you should make sure its super. I have nothing against the r8v8, in fact its the only one I would get. 200k is Lambo/GT3 money, and I would rather "say" i have a Lambo then drive a 200k r8.

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    I agree with you there. I'm just saying that the logic behind saying a supercar getting smoked by a cheaper tuned car is obvious and out of place. It exists across all brands, not just Audi. We're comparing these cars out of the factory and not out of the tuner shop

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    And what everyone already said, for R8 money I'd probably find myself in a Porsche instead lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by PEM View Post
    I agree with you there. I'm just saying that the logic behind saying a supercar getting smoked by a cheaper tuned car is obvious and out of place. It exists across all brands, not just Audi. We're comparing these cars out of the factory and not out of the tuner shop
    fair enough

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    Quote Originally Posted by eganraC View Post
    You had to bring Porsche into this, didn't you . It goes without question where i would dump 100k into but thats besides the point. A tuned S5 will not smoke your car on the track.

    So, you are an ex RS5 er, why no R8? srs question? It seems to be the obvious evolution.
    I would own an R8, but my criteria is no more than two years old, less than 10k miles, and CPO. Can't find that easily (if at all) in an R8 for under $100k.

    I'm also an ex-911'er, and the Porsche magic was calling me back. No Audi or BMW matches the feel of a Porsche.

    Quote Originally Posted by PEM View Post
    Lol get that logic out of here. A tuned Huracan will smack an Aventador. A tuned 911 will probably beat a 918. A stripped vw golf with a monster engine would crap on almost any car it'll run into. We don't buy these expensive cars solely to go fast in a straight line..
    There is no tune that will do much for a naturally aspirated 911. Short of race car, there is no Porsche that will touch the 918. And, that's the way it should be.
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    By tune I meant mods. All this tune talk had me saying it too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojo31 View Post
    There is no tune that will do much for a naturally aspirated 911. Short of race car, there is no Porsche that will touch the 918. And, that's the way it should be.
    That's for sure!

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